The 60th National Day of China

[Nanning]

MissLT, I can see that you are really annoyed and upset, because you jumped up and down like a mad dog,barking and trying to bite us... But stop it, it is very stupid.

Many people know where you are from, who are they? What do they have to do with this? You are a coward. Or is your country a shame that you won't like to admit in public you are from it?

The poison milk or whatever is something that took place in China, it is our internal affair,but the crazy Madoff, Lehman Brothers, Freddi Mac, Fannie Mae, are much worse than that,injuring so many innocent people around the world, because they are greedy!

My country is like my parents. My parents may have many problems, but the greatest thing they have ever done is to give birth to me. Anyone tries to badmouth them is my enemy.

I don't think you have been rude enough, I have seen people ruder than you! But congratulations, because you did make a scene to entertain us. You have heard too many stupid things, why? Because when you think you are the only one in the world who is wiser than others, others think you are the stupidest too.

Is the sentence "China is a great country,congratulations!" so hard for you to say?!

[boomboom]

If I was you, Nanning, and if I was a Chinese, I will, on behaft of the Chinese people, say something to sorry the consumers affected because of some Chinese products. Naturally, you will become too aggressive when so many people here say many bad things about your country. But instead of trying to prove that your country is very good or very "great" (which no one can not deny that your country is one of the biggest countries in the world, strong military,etc.), you should admit and aware of some wrongnesses of your country. The wrongness is very clearly, no one doesn't know!. Presently trying to convince that your country is great will not get any good result, by contrast, there will have many people feel angry at your sayings and hate your country as well. They will have antipathy for the Chinese because they think that the Chinese don't like to admit their wrongness!

[MissLT]

MissLT, I can see that you are really annoyed and upset, because you jumped up and down like a mad dog,barking and trying to bite us... But stop it, it is very stupid.

Oh, you delusional poor thing! Again, you've failed to understand the way people said about you and your precious China. You were not being "jumped" personally because you're Chinese. It's your nonsensical loyalty and no desire to admit the false. I told the truth and what did you do? You threw personal insults at me.

Personal insults would make you an individual who has weak mentality because you don't like the truth or reality. Your mentality is too weak that the only way you can defend your points is the same way kindergarten kids would do to people who questioned them: throw yo mama this and that at someone. Strong mentality people can face the truth and reality and grow up to defend themselves on their own term. They're proud of what they can do yet they admit their mistakes. They know their strength and respect their limitations. They appreciate. They apologize. Kids don't know how to apologize or say thank you until an adult teach them.

You owe me both a thank you and an apology for showing you the pathway to the truth. If I stopped, you'd be back to blindness. We don't want it to happen, do we?

Many people know where you are from, who are they? What do they have to do with this? You are a coward. Or is your country a shame that you won't like to admit in public you are from it?

Who are they? Still too thickheaded to see it? Here they are: Hardi, Dixie, Danyet, Shazzam, Josef, Arale, Pirate, Tottochan, Vince, Anahita, Tora, etc. (sorry to bring you in this mess to prove my point to this lame-o). And oh yes, they have something to do with this; they are my proof that SOME people here know where I am from, so you can take back your ALL if you may. I have nothing to hide about me and do not intend to do so. You want to know about me? The simplest thing to do is ask nicely.

The poison milk or whatever is something that took place in China, it is our internal affair,but the crazy Madoff, Lehman Brothers, Freddi Mac, Fannie Mae, are much worse than that,injuring so many innocent people around the world, because they are greedy!

Did you get this lecture during your commie meetings? I sadly hope so or I'm very deeply troubled about this kinda thinking. Let me remind you the victims were BABIES. Babies who are your China's futures who will bring China forward and give her a respectable place in the world. Babies who have done nothing wrong. If you could do this to babies, is the world wrong to be scared what you could do to others? Why did it happen? Was it an accident or was it greed? Think about it! If they have this greediness to stoop that low to hurt babies, can any other greed stand in comparison?

My country is like my parents. My parents may have many problems, but the greatest thing they have ever done is to give birth to me. Anyone tries to badmouth them is my enemy.

You, in my eyes, is not a patriot. You are a blind. Your country is not like your parents. If she was your parent, you would have a love-hate relationship with her. You would love her simply because she was your parent who would love you unconditionally; nothing could ever change that fact. You would hate her because she could embarrass you with the things she did. Then you would have to tell her about it so you wouldn't be embarrassed anymore. This is a healthy parent-child relationship. You have none of it. What you have with your country is blindly loyalty, something a worshipper would have for his leader. You refuse to admit the truth because you're too weak to accept the truth that your leader can embarrass and fail you. You don't see the truth as a light. Instead, you see it as a big tornado that would pick things up, throw them down and crush everything on its way.

I don't think you have been rude enough, I have seen people ruder than you! But congratulations, because you did make a scene to entertain us. You have heard too many stupid things, why? Because when you think you are the only one in the world who is wiser than others, others think you are the stupidest too.

Do you understand the meaning of stupid is as stupid does? It means even if you think you're intelligent yet you do something stupid, you're just stupid. You are what you do. It's the same way as through the mouth the heart speaks. You are what you say. Therefore, do I need to be wiser than others to see someone is doing something stupid or saying something stupid? No, I don't need to. What I need is common sense. My common sense told me the connection you said about Obama's Nobel Prize reward and the war in Iraq was stupid. Don't even try to pass it as ironicalness. It's not. It's just stupid. It's the same as if someone in your area killed someone, you would not be allowed to be passionate about anything. Otherwise, you'd be very fake. Yeah, this is not stupid at all!?!?!?!

Is the sentence "China is a great country,congratulations!" so hard for you to say?!

It's not hard, but why would I say it when China doesn't deserve it? Compliments and respect cannot be thrown flying around like confetti. False compliments or respect can only be done by pretentious people who like to fish for other's false compliments and respect back. I don't pretend.

[Nanning]

OK, babe, I give you the thank-you and the apology you need,it is a piece of cake! Now, your nationality, please! Be a good kid, do not make trouble, as an adult, I am teaching you how to be a good kid free of charge.This time you are cursing me, it is very bad!!! I know in your country sons can kill parents or soldiers can kill generals because it is normal. We are human beings, we are not machinery. Filial piety is something that you westerners can never understand.
You don't have to mind too much about the babies or the new generations of China. China has survived the other three ancient civilized coutries in the world and remains unchanged till today, going through over 5,000 years in the history of human beings. Such small cases like poison milk or earthquakes are just not a big deal. We have seen too many things and people, what you said is nothing new, it is just something we said and did and forgot.
Whether China is great or not cannot decided by you or me or some of others, only time can tell that you are very childish before a giant.
The question of the debate is: you always say the wrong thing at the wrong time, which is always unacceptable. But you are still young, you'll learn.
You are welcome to visit China to see by yourself.

[Hardi]

Is nationality a so important thing? Really? To for a mature person too? Isn't it just geography. Well of course there are nations that I also don't like and some other that I might like more than others. And some nations that I think to be full of stupids. :P Yeah I don't deny it, I'm not mature yet. I will never marry a Russian, or Italian. Russian women I won't marry, because I believe there is surely some other country in somewhere far away, where women are much, much more beautiful.. Ha-ha I'm just afraid of Russian women. Well actually the culture is just too different for me. But Italians of course I won't like, because the Made in Italy men boxers(underwear), that I bought last winter from a big sale (where everything was 80% off of price), were designed to be useless. Even though I bought a bigger size, they barely cowered my buttock and there was also only barely any room for family-jewels, (any bigger size would fall town). Well at least they weren't expensive. But man, I especially went to that sale to buy those under-wears. Now I have to walk around bare-butted. :D

Oh yeah, okay, okay Nanning, this is going to be too funny already. So seriously talking, don't say the poisonous milk doesn't concern others. There have been many other poisonous Chinese product too, that have reached to other countries. Compared to China, My country is very small, the population is only about 1 500 000. We can't afford to lose human lives so easily. :) Well even when it were 100 times as much, I think every human life is too valuable.. So of course I'm worried. And By The Way. There almost isn't any product made in Estonia in our stores, only some food. But there's so many things, that are made in China..
Well, I wish The life in china will get only better, that the Chinese people mature more and more, that they will have more freedom, like accessing freely Internet without someone censoring some web-pages and etc. Then, I can also say honestly from my heart, Congratulation! China is really a great country. Currently it's great by size, but I don't have confidence to tell it's great, because the politics and things I have heard makes me doubt. :) And by the way don't say "Only china is working hard to help" Despite how much any country have helped someone in this bad situation, The big China sure isn't the only one who works hard. Even the greedy ones work hard to help them selves. The greed can be big motivation too.. to make someone work hard. ;)

[MissLT]

OK, babe, I give you the thank-you and the apology you need,it is a piece of cake!

Babe? What are we, lovers? No, thank you. I'll take your thank you and apology. You can keep your babe. Please, do not babe, baby, honey, darling, sweetie, sweetheart, love, cutie pie etc. me. Something like this coming from you gives me the creeps. No offense.

Now, your nationality, please! Be a good kid, do not make trouble, as an adult, I am teaching you how to be a good kid free of charge.

Ha, too close. Should I remind you what I said? I said it perfectly clear, "you want to know about me? The simplest thing to do is ask nicely." You think what you're doing is asking me nicely? You are not asking me a question. You are demanding that I need to give you an answer. I will only answer to nice questions. Either you find the answer out by yourself or do it my way.

This time you are cursing me, it is very bad!!!

Liar, liar, pants on fire. Your proof?

I know in your country sons can kill parents or soldiers can kill generals because it is normal.

Liar, liar, more pants on fire (starting to be very concerned. How many more pants are you gonna burn because of your lies now?). I thought you didn't know where I was coming from. If you didn't know, how did you come up with this conclusion above? And if you knew, why did you feel the need to demand an answer from me? Confirmation? Then it means you weren't sure. How could you make such a conclusion if you weren't sure?

We are human beings, we are not machinery. Filial piety is something that you westerners can never understand.

What's this now?

You don't have to mind too much about the babies or the new generations of China. China has survived the other three ancient civilized coutries in the world and remains unchanged till today, going through over 5,000 years in the history of human beings.

Yes, I do. Chinese babies or not they are still babies. Just because they're Chinese I should think they deserved it because after all the ones who poisoned them were Chinese?????? I don't give a ~ about skin or race. It's the human beings I care about. I'm very concerned about the fact that Chinese products are everywhere, because many (not all) Chinese don't care to break the price to get the businesses from other countries. If this is a habit of yours to use toxic, harmful materials to make your products then send out to other countries without feeling a bit of remorse, you think the only people get affected by this are Chinese? And if this is the attitude you have for others' well-beings, only God and you would know what else you can do to harm others.

Such small cases like poison milk or earthquakes are just not a big deal. We have seen too many things and people, what you said is nothing new, it is just something we said and did and forgot.

Small cases? Forgot? You think human lives are just not a big deal? What is a big deal to you? How to have a facade as much perfect as possible? You poisoned others then forgot about it???? How could you learn from your mistakes if forgetting things is a habit of yours? You make me sick!!!!!

Whether China is great or not cannot decided by you or me or some of others, only time can tell that you are very childish before a giant.

Are you familiar with these quotes: "ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country" and "a man does what he must — in spite of personal consequences, in spite of obstacles and dangers, and pressures — and that is the basis of all human morality"?????

Do you understand them?

Tell me, you said neither you nor I can decide whether China is great? Only time can give us the right answer? Don't be lame. It's you, me, and others can make a difference and have the power to make decisions to change this world. If not, what's with all the ~ about joining hands around the globe to make a difference? Also, you think you can live in the 21st century and won't act like it's still mediaeval because time will automatically change you and decide for you??? You think people can just do nothing and time will make things great? Sure, you'll keep believing in it. Maybe, one day there's a Santa Claus too.

China can be 5000 years old or a million years old, it doesn't matter. The point is if you don't change, I don't speak up, others don't care then China is just China. It's you who can make China great. It's those babies who can make China great. Our job (I and other people), as consumers or neighbors or whatever, is to tell you what we think of your products. It's our lawfully right to complain about them. Would you stop doing your bad deeds if there was no complaint? How many more people do you want to die before your conscience start waking up?

The question of the debate is: you always say the wrong thing at the wrong time, which is always unacceptable. But you are still young, you'll learn.
You are welcome to visit China to see by yourself.

Wrong thing at the wrong time? Wrong thing? Poisonous milk, lead toys, etc are not the truth? Wrong time? You're very right about this forgetting things habit of yours. Shall I remind you I was not the first one who told you the truth?? And shall I remind you it was your lame excuses got my attention? I wouldn't have cared one bit about this post if you were somehow apologetic. I saw your celebration on the news. My reaction was, "psstttt, whatever!"

[MissLT]

But Italians of course I won't like, because the Made in Italy men boxers(underwear), that I bought last winter from a big sale (where everything was 80% off of price), were designed to be useless. Even though I bought a bigger size, they barely cowered my buttock and there was also only barely any room for family-jewels, (any bigger size would fall town). Well at least they weren't expensive. But man, I especially went to that sale to buy those under-wears. Now I have to walk around bare-butted. :D

Last time I got myself a very cute pair of high heels. My mom asked me about the price. I told her and she asked me if I knew how dumb I was. I said, "what's that, Mom? It's made in Italy. Italian leather. That's why I paid that much for them." And she was like, "pssssttt, made in Italy, sure! You think something is not Chinese material because it's not made in China. When are you gonna learn?"

You know, if that 2012 prediction turns out to be correct, the first thing I would do to her is curse her for always being right (all the mushy stuff would come later). I don't know where they got the materials but the color on the tips of my shoes are already fading.

Family-jewels??

[Nanning]

You know why I could not quote your words? Because they were too lengthy to be posted here,sh*t!
Your "Liar, liar, pants on fire" thing is quite funny, which I will teach some young people later. But it is so nonsense! I only know that a liar will get a longer nose, am I right?
I will not call you babe, honey, or whatever. How would you like to be addressed? You called me blind somewhere, was it not enough to prove you are evil?
You can make a difference in history? I wonder how. If you can stop eating for a month, there may be more food left for African children. So go ahead and do not hesitate, this is your way to save the world.
Why are there so many Made in China goods around the world? When Chinese people are hard working, what are the rest of the world doing? Why are there NOT so many Made in XXX goods? You and other people have benefited from Chinese goods, but you have so much to complain about. Your children can drink poison-free milk made outside China or do other things like that, but why choose Chinese goods?
It is normal for people to have differing views. I do not agree with you but I will denfese to my death your right to speak. China is a tolerant country. Why can't you open your eyes and ears wider?
If you like a person or a country, there are always a lot of reasons, and if you don't, there are the same amount of reasons, too.
Check against your family members or your countries, both MissLT and Hardi.

[Hardi]

Obviously I tray to keep my eye on my country and my family members. That goes without saying. And yes, It's often difficult to see things that are close. I'm always sorry when I don't see my own stupidity. So there might be many problems here that I don't notice. ;)

[Xkalibur]

make love, not war.