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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby [amal] » Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:23 pm

Hi friends,

How are you?

I have missed you all. :-(
This is just to let you know that I am very well but sadly I can be with you because there is no electricity...
We had spent 3 days without electricity!!! I am verrrrrrry angryyyyyyyyyyyyy. Oh my god!! I am angry not because it's off but because I have promised my friends to be with them then I couldn't come, now they are calling me a bad girl!!! :cry: :cry:

Swear to god, I was dying to be with you, I was dying to know your news but I couldn't!!!

Anyway, I hope you are all fine.
Wish you the best,
Amal
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Re: Our eyes must bleed instead of tears!

Postby Mohsen » Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:33 pm

behnam wrote:Dear friends,

Yesterday, I saw the video clip of recent mindless violence in Caro, the capital city of Egypt! As it was clear in the video clip, some fundamentalist Sunni people killed four Shiite people and insulted their corpses! Why? Is it logical to kill someone because of his/her belief and idea? How do they justify their actions?

When I was reading the history of Ashura in Karbala, I used to say: It is impossible! How could those Arab people kill the grandchild of prophet Mohammad and rode horses on his corpse? I used to accept the history with some doubts. However, yesterday, after watching the video clip, I came to terms with the bitter fact that politics close people's eyes and make them blind. History is a great teacher. It helps us understand the present time better, because it is the reflection of the past. People haven't changed. We have the same needs and desires that thousands of years ago ancient people had.

Shiite and Sunni are two main branches in Islam. They haven't got ideological differences. They have got some political differences. For example, in Shiite people's opinion, Ali; Prophet's son-in-law, had the provable right, merit, and competence to become the leader. I think this political view is one of the most important differences between Shiite and Sunni. Other stories are mostly created by storytellers from both sides to convince each other!

Anyway, disappointing things are happening in Syria, Egypt, and some other Arab countries. It seems they have forgotten the main enemy. Now, Islam is against Islam! Who benefits? That's obvious even to children!
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That's the maximum degree of sadness someone can show on EC. But, wise people must cry blood!

All the best,
Behnam, 25 June, 2013


Politics is running by USA , money supported by Saudi and Ghatar , operation by mercenaries or idiots .
The process of Taliban and Afghan government reconciliation is on agenda , Poor Afghan people who should recognize the Taliban as a legal opposition. When Karzai avoid speaking with Taliban , he has been threat by a big explosion which was occurred near his palace a few days ago. Now Karzai has been given up , He can't resist against USA 's will
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Topic maybe Interests

Postby Moroo » Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:11 am

Today I want to share with you a topic maybe it Interests some of you

Do you think success depends on which of the following:

Qualifications, effort, luck, what God has written.

All of us have examples of people who don't have qualifications although they are in a good position in life, like singers ,actors, managers in companies and business, and when you are trying to find the reason for him of being success you will find that they have nothing.
Like Shaaban Abdel Rahim he is well known singer in Egypt although his voice is very bad, the lyrics of his songs has no meaning, wears like parrot, when he talks you think that he is insane.

In business you can find a boss of big company doesn't have any qualification to make him reach this position.

Do you think hard work and determination will lead any on to what he need. :?:

Really I don't know, I'm confused. :roll:

Do anyone have different opinion?

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby [amal] » Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:36 am

Hi Moroo,

How are you? I hope you are enjoying your time.

I want to say that I am very sad about what is going these days in Egypt, it's sad to see Muslims are fighting against each other.
On the other hand, I am proud of Egyptian people because they are very brave and when they want something, they ALL go to streets and ask for it, they are united and love each other.. I wish our people do the same one day! :-D

Anyway, let me write about the mean topic of this post now.. First of all, I want to thank you about this interesting and important topic.

In my opinion, being successful depends on the person himself and of course about God willing.
For example, a lot of people have all the qualifications which are needed to success but they aren't successful just because god doesn't want. meanwhile, others have nothing but they become very important..

There are something very important should be mentioned too, That here in Arab's countries, no matter what a person has, if he doesn't know someone important in the cov, he can't achieve anyyything. :-D :oops: :roll:
It's shameful but this is the truth..

For example, my uncle was the best student at medicine univ, his marks all were full. However, they gave the scholarship for a girl who know nothing, neither in medicine nor in the univ!!!!! Therefore, my uncle left everything and went to America. In America, he continued his study then a director of hospital came to his house and asked him to work there!!! Do you see the difference?!
In Arab countries they want there OWN benefits. Meanwhile, in America they try their best to stick to the scientists and the doctors in order to achieve a public success and the country benefits!!

Emm, about Shaban Abd Alrehem, emm, I don't like him a lot and I don't like his personality.
Maybe he didn't get his success easily as we think but of course his luck helped him a lot. Once I saw an interview with him on TV and he explained how he published his first cassette.. He said that everything happened by accident when he was driving his car, he saw a producer so he threw the cassette to him from the window. When that person heard it, he called him back! See, his luck was the key of his success!

In the end, I want to say that we should do our best then achieving success or not is God business.

Wish you the best.
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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Moroo » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:47 am

Hi Amal how are you :-)

Hope you, your family and all Syrian people are safe :-D

I would like to say In respect of what is happening in Syria, really I don't know which side is right Bashr's side or the opponents.

Maybe the opponents is right, even if they are right there are hidden hands out of Syria support them for mean reasons not for Syrian people to be better, like what is happening in other Arab countries now.

You mentioned that "being successful depends on the person himself and of course about God willing".

Do you know, I agree with you especially about the part of God willing because I believe baby who born for rich family or poor family it's because of the God willing.

About what happened to your uncle, I think that's always happening in any country or institution that holds a head of the country or institution corrupted, when the head of anything is corrupted he will choose the assistant is corrupted too and when the assistant who is corrupted will choose his assistant is corrupted too and so on.

And because the hierarch is bad the boss doesn't question his assistant about what he is doing.
In America and good countries they have system and no one can break it.

In a country the police was suspect of a boss in the government that he is a spy but the police can't find any evidence, after he resigned one of them asked him personally "we were sure that you were a spy but we can't find the evidence" he replied my job was very simple, when candidates apply to a job I choose the worst one that’s all.

You know that’s the worst things that destroy any country.

At the end I would like to express my admiration about what you have written at the end of your post, it's totally true.

Wish you all the best.
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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Mohsen » Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:47 am

Hi ,

Oh my God , I am always in dilemma, in daily life dilemma happens for us , may be I choose a wrong way, from investing money or help people. Once I had invested my money to buy the shares of a company , the company was bankrupted and I lost my money , Once a beggar asked me for help , I didn't help him because in my view he was not a real beggar but a fraudulent .
When we save a life ,it is possible that we made a mistake , look at the following story

Some of children were playing, They were playing exactly on the two railway tracks, one still in use while the other disused. Only one child played on the disused track, the rest on the operational track.
The train is coming, and you are just beside the track interchange. You can make the train change its course to the disused track and save most of the kids. However, that would also mean the lone child playing by the disused track would be sacrificed. Or would you rather let the train go its way?
Let's take a pause to think what kind of decision we could make...

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Elham » Wed Jul 03, 2013 5:05 pm


"Let's learn together " is not just a simple name of a thread to me. It means much more, much more!
When I think of it, I remember many things, many many. I remember the first time I came across it on net, the first post I read on it, the first impression...I remember many people, many friends, many serious and emotional posts, many sad and happy memories.... I remember the friendships, love words, smiles, tears, conflicts,heart to heart words, brotherhood, sisterhood,support,hatred ......

I remember our friends , Veronica, Mohsen, Amal, Andrew, Marina, Rosa, Julia, Chinese friends, Turkish friends, Iranian friends, Arab friends,.....

I remember dear Behnam and all his great posts, strong ideas, naughty jocks,assertive manner, nice sense of humor and gentle feelings.

Oh and I remember myself, Elham. I remember what influences being a member of this thread has had on me.
It relaxed me to express my thoughts and emotions here. I loved to write my head and heart out in English in 'Let's learn together'. I remember my posts about the God, Mother, childhood,hijab friendship,rain and snow,summer and winter, spring and autumn, love and hatred, and many many other things.
I miss it, I DO MISS IT. :cry: :cry: :cry:

In one hand,for some reasons I can't continue writing in my lovely thread, on the other hand I can't leave it simply without any word cause here's important for me. I'm not like some of our previous friends who left us without any simple explanation or goodbye, disrespecting us! Once I told Mohsen nothing can prevent me from writing in here unless death since I love to practice my English and express my ideas here, but I never thought about other reasons that can prevent me!

You may ask what this reason is and want me to be clear.I give you right. Unfortunately,dear Behnam and I are not friends anymore, and I'm afraid my presence and my words bother him, therefore I prefer not to write here anymore. I behaved too rudely to him and made him regret his friendship with me. You know, it's very sad to understand that we've made mistake making friend with somebody and recently dear Behnam came to this conclusion about me. It's one of the saddest regrets one can experience and dear Behnam did. :-( :-( :-( I apology to him for making him feel sad and regretful. Although I love this thread and writing in it, I have to stop annoying him more and leave "Let's learn together".

I could leave here without any word, I know my absence doesn't change anything and even nobody noticed it, but I wrote this post just because the thread means a lot to me and I hated to leave it as if it's sth unimportant, cause I do have feelings towards this thread and all my memories.

I try to tolerate not writing here but I'll always read your posts and enjoy them. :-)

Wish you all the best,
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Let's learn together! ( AS FEMALES )

Postby Moroo » Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:31 am

Hi my beautiful friends,

I Hope all of you are fine.

These days I'm trying to find a good site to chat to practice my English and I didn't find any good one. :-(

Really I didn't use to chat before. mmm I think I tried to chat using ICQ many many years ago but I didn't continue.

When I tried to chat these days using sites like English Club chat room or other sites, although these sites manly for people who would like to practice English. I have found something very strange for me that I would like to share with you.

When I tried to communicate with someone ( M or F ) after some words they stop writing to me :-( I don't know the reason :roll: , maybe because my subjects are boring, when I followed those people who stopped writing to me I found theme would like to chat about fiddling subjects, at least to me, as well as they stop writing with me without saying anything :-x

mmmmm :roll:

Finally I found something make them like very much chatting with me. :idea:

Guess what !!!!

I used A female name :twisted:

Now a lot of them trying to chat with me and I choice. :lol:

But unfortunately Males only

For me its ok.

Now I have many friends :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

All the best for you all
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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby [amal] » Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:41 pm

Hi Elham,

How are you?

This place isn't just somewhere to write in. It has our heart, it is our home.. And here we are all as a family. Brothers and sisters may fight and become sad with each other but they always return to THEIR home no matter how the fight was big, they forget everything and stay together with each other.
You know Elham? I started to hate this place, I even don't come here anymore because I know that you aren't here and I can't write to you or that you wont answer me, therefore, why I should come?! Today I was surprised! I didn't believe my eyes when I saw your name! Then when I read your post, your words broke my heart! :cry: You are leaving the thread, your home!! Why???!!!
Honey, I don't think that Behnam has ever wanted that, right??
You who kept this place running and I don't think that Behnam would deny this thing sincce YOU who insisted him to make another "Let's learn together" after the old one was closed! Remember Behnam?? Uh!

In the past, we had a promise, I am sure that both of you -Elham and Behnam- still remember it. We promised each other that we will stay together FOREVER no matter what happen. So in life we faced a lot of bad things, we became sad with each other but then and because our love is more important than anything, we became friends again, we forgot our pride for something more valuable. So what has changed now?! Please both of you think of your sweet memories together, think of the things you passed together. Do you think that all those things are meaningless??!!

Dear Behnam, I am not trying to change your mind but I -as a friend- dislike to see you BOTH are wasting such a great friendship, this really breaks my heart! :-x :cry:

Dears, you know that you are the most important people in my life. If there is something I am proud of the most in my life then it would be our friendship. Please please think of this matter very well and don't waste it, don't let me lose the most valuable thing. :cry:

Wish you the best.
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I am Back!

Postby behnam » Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:25 pm

Hi friends,

How are you? I hope you are great.

I am back! I took a one-week trip to Azerbaijan; my mother and fatherland. I really really really enjoyed it. Many interesting things happened to me. I will tel you about them.

I'd missed you terribly. In many places, when I was making tea with wood-burned, handmade stove which is built by three big pieces of stones, I remembered you and your words. I wish you had been there with me.

I am pleased to say that I went to the Fort of Babak Khorramdin In Kaleibar. Oh my God! How can I describe my feelings when I saw the Babak castle for the first time! It was great, wonderful, amazing, fantastic, inspiring,...

Let's see what Wikipedia has said about it:


Bābak Fort or Babak Castle (Persian: دژ بابک or قلعه بابک‎ Azerbaijani: بابک قلعه سي ), also known as the Immortal Castle or Republic Castle, is a large citadel and National Symbol of Iranians on the top of a mountain in the Arasbaran forests, which is located 6 km southwest of Kalibar City in northwestern Iran. It has been identified as the stronghold of Bābak Khorramdin, the leader of the Khurramites in Azarbaijan who fought the Islamic caliphate of Abbassids. Iranian Azarbaijanis gather at Babak Castle during the first weekend in July for the annual commemoration of Babak Khorramdin.


For more information please google 'Babak's Castle'. Be careful with the Address that Iranian sites have given.Many of them have said that the castle is located in Ahar, but it is wrong. The castle is placed in Kaleibar.

After getting home and taking a shower and some rest, I got connected and checked the thread and my mailbox. A few minutes ago I finished reading dear Amal's post(I do mean Amal is a dear friend of mine). However, she hasn't mentioned that I was on a trip, whereas I'd emailed and informed her about the trip!

Elham's post is funny and full of misjudgements, some false assumptions and misunderstandings that all caused her to jump to the wrong conclusion. I expect her to give further explanation to the readers about the story which is gone between us.
Elham wrote:You may ask what this reason is and want me to be clear.I give you right. Unfortunately,dear Behnam and I are not friends anymore, and I'm afraid my presence and my words bother him, therefore I prefer not to write here anymore. I behaved too rudely to him and made him regret his friendship with me. You know, it's very sad to understand that we've made mistake making friend with somebody and recently dear Behnam came to this conclusion about me. It's one of the saddest regrets one can experience and dear Behnam did. :-( :-( :-( I apology to him for making him feel sad and regretful. Although I love this thread and writing in it, I have to stop annoying him more and leave "Let's learn together".


I want her to tell the full story of what has happened, and then let others judge about it. Of course, she has the right to keep it secret from others, but she hasn't the right to speak about my probable regret without mentioning to the things that might make me regret. This is really unfair.

From some points of view, forming a friendship is like planting a small fruit tree and watering it in the hope that it will give sweet eatable fruits. Although a tree with uneatable bitter fruits forces the gardener to admit that all his efforts had been in vain, he never removes the tree from the garden because he doesn't like to see any place of the garden empty! In other words, although the tree doesn't produce eatable fruits, it makes the garden look green! This is valuable and undeniable.

All the best,
Behnam, 5 July, 2013
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