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Postby Chet Baker » Mon Apr 18, 2005 8:03 am

I am glad that you want to know about Hong Kong. Thank you LennyeTran. I am also glad that you are fans of Tong Leung. I like him very much, frankly, I am his fans too. I think that you must have seen 2046. I saw this movie at least 6 times, 2 times in cinema and at least 4 times at home for VCD. I also kept the cinema tickets as memorial. He is the best in this Wong Kak Wai’s movie series. I also bought its soundtrack too, because I love the music.
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Postby MissLT » Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:05 pm

Chet Baker wrote: I am also glad that you are fans of Tong Leung. I like him very much, frankly, I am his fans too. I think that you must have seen 2046. I saw this movie at least 6 times, 2 times in cinema and at least 4 times at home for VCD. I also kept the cinema tickets as memorial. He is the best in this Wong Kak Wai’s movie series. I also bought its soundtrack too, because I love the music.

I've seen it three times to be able to understand the movie. It was complicated :oops: . By the way, that girl, what's her name, in Crouching Tiger something, her Cantonese was really bad in that movie. Even I could tell that she was speaking with a really heavy Mandarin accent. Anyway, back to Tony, yeah my dream is to see him at the TVB studio or in Hong Kong. I've been having that dream since I was a little kid. I believe I have watched all his famous series movies. I still have some of them at home in tapes. My brother watches them almost every day. ;)
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Postby MissLT » Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:25 pm

Chet Baker wrote: He is the best in this Wong Kak Wai’s movie series. I also bought its soundtrack too, because I love the music.

What is it called in English?
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Postby Chet Baker » Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:08 am

LennyeTran wrote:
Chet Baker wrote: He is the best in this Wong Kak Wai’s movie series. I also bought its soundtrack too, because I love the music.

What is it called in English?



http://www.monkeypeaches.com/2046.html

You can see many news about 2046.

Also, the girl you have mentioned in you post is Zhang Ziyi. She is native Mandarine speaker with heavy northern accent. If you watch DVD in Cantonese track, I believe that she speak in Mandarine. In fact, 2046 consist of Mandarine, Cantonese and Japanese. This is Wong Ka Wai Style. haha. But i love his films. :mrgreen:
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Postby MissLT » Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:39 am

Chet Baker wrote: Also, the girl you have mentioned in you post is Zhang Ziyi. She is native Mandarine speaker with heavy northern accent. If you watch DVD in Cantonese track, I believe that she speak in Mandarine. In fact, 2046 consist of Mandarine, Cantonese and Japanese. This is Wong Ka Wai Style. haha. But i love his films. :mrgreen:

Thanks for the link. And now I know you meant Wong Kar-Wai, the director of 2046. I watched the downloaded English subtitle one and I heard they spoke Cantonese or Japanese. At first I thought Ziyi was speaking Mandarin, but after a second time of rewatching, I realized she was speaking Cantonese. She was supposed to speak Cantonese in the whole movie, right? By the way, this is the one that got me really confused about the whole movie for a while,
"He was a writer, He thought he wrote about the future but it really was the past. In his novel, a mysterious train left for 2046 every once in a while. Everyone who went there had the same intention ... to recapture their lost memories. It was said that in 2046, nothing ever changed. Nobody knew for sure if it was true, because nobody who went there had ever come back - except for one. He was there. He chose to leave. He wanted to change."
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Postby Chet Baker » Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:15 am

This is the comment copied from the website, i hope this can help you to understand the movie

A writer arrives in Singapore for starting a new life, which is nothing but counting time at dealing tables. His name is Chow Mo-Wan (Leung Chiu-Wai). A mysterious woman, only known as Black Spider, quietly walks into his life and brings back his lost memory, the memory of the time he spent with an married woman named Su Li-Zhen (Maggie Cheung). Black Spider helps the writer to win back his money then he could buy a ticket returning to Hong Kong. She refused to share her past with him, except her name, which is also Su Li-Zhen (Gong Li).

The writer returns to Hong Kong alone and on Christmas Eve, he meet Lu Lu (Lau Kar-ling), another woman from his past, who now has no memory of him. Chow sees a familiar number on the door of Lu Lu's hotel room - 2046. Room 2046 was filled with memory of the days he had with Su Li-Zhen, and is now trashed by Lu Lu's boyfriend CC (Chang Chen).

He moves into Room 2047 to start his life, again as a free-lancer. He met two daughters of the hotel owner (Wang Sum), Wang Jie Wen (Dong Jie) and Wang Jing Wen (Faye Wong). Jing Wen's relationship with her Japanese boyfriend (Kimura Takuya) was not allowed by his father and Jie Wen just started to learn what love was. Then a new tenant, Bai Ling (Zhang Ziyi), moved into 2046 and he picks her up in no time. Just when she shows some real feeling, he immediately excludes her from his life.

He starts writing a new story, titled 2046, for Jing Wen and her boyfriend. In the story, a train departs for 2046 once in a while and people boarded the train would find back their lost memories. No one wanted to leave 2046, except Tak (Kimura Takuya). He falls in love with a senseless robot (Wong Faye), who offered him great joy along the ride. But each time Tak asks her to go with him, the answer is always silence.

2046 was in development when In The Mood For Love was still in progress. It was originally thought as a sequel to it, but is really about a story of its own. Wong Kar-Wai struggled for five years to tell us a story, or a collection of stories, about a dissolute and disillusioned writer and fractions of his experience with six women. Wong Kar-Wai takes us through a thrilling ride, drifting between the writer's memory and his fantasized train journey from 2046. Su Li-Zhen of Singapore is nicely portrayed by Gong Li. She is a con of card game, who is always dressed mysteriously in black. The writer discovers something familiar, which reminds him other Su Li-Zhen from his past. He tries to uncover her secret and lure her into his life but fails. Gong Li's role keeps such great distance away from her early films that we would forget she used to work with Zhang Yimou.

Lu Lu, a showgirl lives in her jealousy, is played by Lau Kar-ling, the girlfriend of Leung Chiu-Wai. She is changing love interest so friendly that no memory is left for the writer, one of so many men she has dated. Later on the train, she is a robot, sexy and senseless.

Faye Wong and Kimura Takuya play a couple of lover who could not be together because of the girl's father. The writer starts to deliver letters for them and later recruits her as his assistance. Something between them blooms but her heart still belongs to someone else. Faye Wong is very impressive as playing a girl in love and a gorgeous robot who knows nothing but serving the train riders. Kimura Takuya does a great job as her Japanese boyfriend, desperately to get the girl she love, and the sole passenger on the train, desperately to leave his memory behind. He is, again and again, asking the robot to come with him, even though there is no hope that she would ever answer.

Zhang Ziyi is ranked number five on the cast list, but she is really the star of 2046, only next to Leung Chiu-Wai. Her character, Bai Ling, is a prostitute, though the film has never made it clear. Her time with the writer is sweet but short. They attempt nothing from each other but quietly starts to grow. She is the women he knows the most and is also the one he least wants to have serious relationship with. Zhang Ziyi skillfully shows us the evolution of her character, a performance breaking-through her past. Now I am really convinced she could play any role she wants.

Chang Chen and Dong Jie only shows up for a couple of minutes, either because their roles are too supporting or because their scenes have been cut. Maggie Cheung, the star of In The Mood For Love, only does a cameo her. 2046 is no longer her story.

2046 is like a lavish feast celebrating the finest arts ever created. Christopher Doyle, Lai Yiu-Fai and Kwan Pun-Leung, the mEn behind the camera lenses, are truly masters of colors, lights and layers. They uses mirrors, glasses, door frames and all other tool he can find, to create illusive images, which makes us to believe the writer's mind only exists in a illusion. From the women's dresses and the hotel literally rusting to dust to the futuristic robot suits and the high tech train, Chang Suk-Ping, the art director and costume designer, masterfully created two drastically different worlds being seamlessly blended into one film. Original scores by Peer Raben and Shigeru Umebayashi and unoriginal music from masters of the past also transform the film into a classic collection of operas.

2046 is Wong Kar-Wai's most stylish work ever. We see his mind travels through time and space, freely and randomly, collecting various pieces of his imagination, to depict a journey of a man. In the end, we see the story returns to the exact point where it started more than two hours before. The only difference is the writer has more memories for feeling sad and we just finished riding a cinematic extravaganza. 2046 is not a film suitable for everyone. Stay, if you are looking for an experience and go, if you are looking for a story. 2046 is very 2046 and 2046 is very Wong Kar-Wai.

After words: The version now showing in China, including Hong Kong, runs about 128 minutes, which is 5 minutes longer than the one screened in Cannes last May. Reportedly, after retuning from Cannes Wong Kar-Wai re-edited the film in attempt to make it more understandable.

I've edited this part for you: (Copied from the website http://www.monkeypeaches.com/2046.html )
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Postby Chet Baker » Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:02 am

LennyeTran, can you guess what did Chow hide in the tree hole?
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Postby MissLT » Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:40 pm

Chet Baker wrote:LennyeTran, can you guess what did Chow hide in the tree hole?

I think I have to rewatch the movie since I don't remember it. :oops:
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Postby Young » Sat Jun 04, 2005 6:44 am

Chet Baker wrote:I am glad that you want to know about Hong Kong. Thank you LennyeTran. I am also glad that you are fans of Tong Leung. I like him very much, frankly, I am his fans too. I think that you must have seen 2046. I saw this movie at least 6 times, 2 times in cinema and at least 4 times at home for VCD. I also kept the cinema tickets as memorial. He is the best in this Wong Kak Wai’s movie series. I also bought its soundtrack too, because I love the music.


I think I have to rewatch the movie since I don't remember it
This film is really too hard to understand!
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