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Postby Chet Baker » Tue May 03, 2005 1:32 pm

We have almost everythings about Asia in this forum, why we don't have a forum about Music. Share with us about the Asian music you like. :mrgreen:
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Postby Chet Baker » Tue May 03, 2005 2:10 pm

Some of the remarkable songs and singers i love most.

Classic Japanese Songs in 80's
1. 安全地帶 Anzen Chitai and 玉置 浩二 Koji Tamaki -
酒紅色的心, 向悲哀說再見 (Sorry i can't find their english name)

2. Joy Hisaishi - Hush, i believe in you

Taiwan -
1. Harlem Yu

Hong Kong
Jacky Cheung
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Postby MissLT » Tue May 03, 2005 6:40 pm

Oooooooohhhh I forgot we Asians have music. LOL Just joking! I didn't have time to create this topic and it actually did slip out of my mind since I was too caught up with other topics in this section :oops: . Anyway, give me some time to introduce music from my country, Vietnam. I'll talk about the old music style, not the modern one. I like the old style better. Ok, I'll be back with the introduction. Gotta split now.
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Postby orange » Wed May 04, 2005 6:28 am

Hellooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Orange came back after long vacation, miss all of you a lots :D .
In my opinion, Asian Music is a good idea. Music likes bridge make us nearer and nearer.
I like melody of China music very much even i cannot understand what they mean. :oops:
The meaning-songs are my favourite style. So of course that I always welcome the old Vietnam songs which are full meaning. I hope to be see this topic soon.
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Postby Chet Baker » Wed May 04, 2005 6:32 am

orange wrote:Hellooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Orange came back after long vacation, miss all of you a lots :D .
In my opinion, Asian Music is a good idea. Music likes bridge make us nearer and nearer.
I like melody of China music very much even i cannot understand what they mean. :oops:
The meaning-songs are my favourite style. So of course that I always welcome the old Vietnam songs which are full meaning. I hope to be see this topic soon.


Hi Orange, welcome back. I agree with your opinion about music. Nevertheless, in you post, do you mean classic music, such as Chinses Opera or Cantonese or Mandarin Pop music?
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Postby orange » Wed May 04, 2005 6:59 am

Chet Baker wrote:
orange wrote:Hellooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Orange came back after long vacation, miss all of you a lots :D .
In my opinion, Asian Music is a good idea. Music likes bridge make us nearer and nearer.
I like melody of China music very much even i cannot understand what they mean. :oops:
The meaning-songs are my favourite style. So of course that I always welcome the old Vietnam songs which are full meaning. I hope to be see this topic soon.


Hi Orange, welcome back. I agree with your opinion about music. Nevertheless, in you post, do you mean classic music, such as Chinses Opera or Cantonese or Mandarin Pop music?

I don't know exactly what kind of music but it seems like Chinese Opera.
Chet Baker, if you give me some introduction about Chinese Music, i'm willing to.....welcome... :lol: :lol:
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Postby Chet Baker » Wed May 04, 2005 7:11 am

orange wrote:
Chet Baker wrote:
orange wrote:Hellooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Orange came back after long vacation, miss all of you a lots :D .
In my opinion, Asian Music is a good idea. Music likes bridge make us nearer and nearer.
I like melody of China music very much even i cannot understand what they mean. :oops:
The meaning-songs are my favourite style. So of course that I always welcome the old Vietnam songs which are full meaning. I hope to be see this topic soon.


Hi Orange, welcome back. I agree with your opinion about music. Nevertheless, in you post, do you mean classic music, such as Chinses Opera or Cantonese or Mandarin Pop music?

I don't know exactly what kind of music but it seems like Chinese Opera.
Chet Baker, if you give me some introduction about Chinese Music, i'm willing to.....welcome... :lol: :lol:


As far as i know, Chinese opera divided into 2 main areas, namely, north and south. They are not difficult to be distinguished as their language are completely different. The former use Mandaine and the later use Cantonese. In fact, it is just a general introduction, it used to be sub-divided into smaller cartegories.
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Postby MissLT » Wed May 04, 2005 7:46 am

MUSIC OF VIETNAM
Vietnamese music includes folk, pop, and theatrical music styles. For this post, I will only introduce to you Vietnamese traditional music such as folk and theatrical music. The reason I will leave out pop music because I do not classify it as a traditional music; and I think it is a part of my job to save the traditional music due to the fact that the Vietnamese traditional music is endangered. Young people hardly find themselves related to this type of music; they are more interested in rap, rock, electrical or alternative music styles. If some other Vietnamese who would like to introduce Vietnamese pop music to other members, you are more than welcome to do so.

Although Vietnamese traditional music is an influence of other sources such as Chinese, Indian, Thai, and other Southeast Asian ethnicities, we have had changed those sources into our own styles to suit the Vietnamese traditions and culture. Firstly, I will introduce to you Vietnamese folk music, which contains the three famous ones quan ho, hat chau van, and ca tru amongst other types.
- Quan ho or quan ho Bac Ninh: is called quan ho Bac Ninh because it is especially from that Bac Ninh province. It is an essential vocal folk music, which it can be sung without instrumental accompaniment. In addition, the music romances of a deep lyrical character enrapture with their sweet melodies and the straightforward and direct manner in which they are sung, with no conscious expressive effort and with clarity of enunciation. As regards their composition they fall into three categories according to whether or not the canzonet proper is preceded by a short prefatory declamation (called "bi" or "bi dau" in the esoteric vocabulary) and whether or not it is followed by a tiny coda ("cau do" or flexional sentence in Vietnamese) which most often modulates into a higher scale and another mode to end the song on a bright and gay tone. (http://www.saigonstrings.com/quanho.htm)
- Hat chau van: is performed differently in three regions of Vietnam: the North, Central and South. (http://www.tienghatquehuong.com/FolkSongs/ChauVan.htm)
- Ca tru or hat a dao: to my observation it is more like geisha type of Japanese in some ways. For one thing, ca tru requires a female singer who entertains men in a relaxed environment. Another thing is ca tru singers do not sell themselves for money after singing; they sing for money only. Back in the days, they had little bamboo “ca tru” , which “tru” means “card” in Chinese and “ca” means “sing” or “song” in Vietnamese; hence, the name “ca tru” or little card songs. The card songs were given to the singers in appreciation for their performance. They then received their money based on the numbers of card songs they received. (http://vn-style.com/myhomeland/arts_style/traditionaltheatres/catru.html)

Ok, this is it for now. I'll introduce to you theatrical music in the next post. Anyway, you can check out this link for Vietnamese traditional music. It is in both English and Vietnamese.
http://vn-style.com/vim/index.html
http://www.venguon.org/RealAudio/VNg_RealAudio.html
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Postby Chet Baker » Wed May 04, 2005 8:59 am

It is a very detailed research, thanks LennyeTran. In respect of Ca tru or hat a dao, It was also available in Hong Kong in 40’s to 60’s, they were available in Chinese restaurant and prostitute house. Singers (usually female) would perform together with male musician. The male would play Erhu (you can see what it looks like in this website):
http://members.optusnet.com.au/~robyeoh/erhu.html

There are also something in common, the singer would not have sex for money.

I agree that transitional music should be resounded to youngster as they only know pop and rap, things like that. But I think the pop music will be melted with transitional music as the situation in Japan.

Some rap band and pop song singer successfully incorporated the transitional music instrument into their pop music, namely, Syamisenn (http://hk.search.yahoo.com/search/image ... hk&ei=BIG5). Also In Hong Kong, You can always hear Erhu in Alan Lau’s music. I think both transitional and pop can match together.
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Postby MissLT » Fri May 06, 2005 4:31 am

Chet Baker wrote:It is a very detailed research, thanks LennyeTran. In respect of Ca tru or hat a dao, It was also available in Hong Kong in 40’s to 60’s, they were available in Chinese restaurant and prostitute house.

Although you said that the singers didn't sing as like prostitutes, when you put it that way in your above post it sounds like they were prostitutes to me. A dao in Vietnam were not in brothel. They were highly professional singers who sang because they loved their job and men who came to those houses didn't look for a night; they came there because it was an upper-class way to entertain themselves. That's the reason why I said it's similar to geisha. To me geishas are not prostitutes and by the real definition they are not.
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