Mara-18 and Salvatrucha

[Danyet]

Counterterror experts monitoring the Central American scene are concerned with news that so-called youth gangs active in Central America are now moving north into Mexico. The youth gangs, known to be among the most ruthless street criminals in that part of the world, prey on prospective illegal immigrants. Some indications from Honduras and Guatemala suggest that gangs known as Mara-18 and Salvatrucha are already active in the Mexican state of Chiapas, stretching their activity to Tijuana close to the U.S. border.

A number of Mara-18 members are known to have ties with drug dealers, including those identified with some of the most radical Islamic jihadists.
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=37981

[Elba]

Letter to a Texas Ranger EC Member:

Dear Danyet, defender of the universe, property of the true, the only one with the right to...give light to the world of the ignorants... the most proud of himself...the revolutionary or maybe I musto to say the contrarrevolutionary... etc...

Did you understand me honey???
Well maybe my English is too bad, then try to understand the saying of a poor latinamerican, a poor mexican, a poor city of a banana´s republic, as you said some day.

It is a fact that Mara Salvatrucha exist, not only at México, but also in another central america´s countries.
It is a fact that they are young
It is a fact that they are criminals
It is a fact that they have the number 18.
But they have too another numbers, 11, 13, 14, etc. The number is acording the number of people they have killed. But the 18, 13, 12, etc were not killed for the complete group, they were killed only for one guy.
Terrible, isn´t it???
How is possible that only one young man, only one teenager, could to kill 18 persons???
What does it mean???
IMHO It means a social hate to the men of power, those who get them out of all the oportunities to a better life. Those who prefer got millions of dollars in different ways, as promoting wars at middle east, as make bussines with the big petroleum companies, as promote little politic wars at poor countries of Latinamerica or Asia, or Africa, with the only pourpose to get more and more dollars. Those who support and make bussines with the drugs mafias. Those as George Bush.
It is a fact Mara is at México. I never forgive myself if I try to say "Not, That´s not true". Of course is true. They exist as exist similar groups in USA (do you remeber the bronx...well maybe you live in a bronx...Yeah! I understand Why all the time you have this agresive behaivoir?? this social hate...?? Yeah maybe you are one more... an inmigrant maybe?? with out any oportunity...? Yeah I´v got it), in european countries, Asian countries, african countries.
And what is the name of those groups Danyet??? Do you know them??? Why don´t you post similar topics in the anothers regional forums??? It would be interesting and too ilustrative...
The world need a man like you...With your capacity of investigation...
I´m interested in the groups of USA...Maybe they don´t exist because you... As a Texas Ranger... has killed them in the frontier...
Maybe you are one of those men who every night get to the Bravo River TO HUNT ilegal inmigrants, one of those who never feel compassion if the victim is a man, woman or only a CHILDREN...
What is the name of those groups Danyet...Defenders of the Universe... or maybe "MARA-USA"...It souds funny...Isn´t it...

About the article of the Mara I should recomend you pay atention in the autor: JOSEPH FARAH.
Do you know him. He is a journalist. An important Journalist. Do you know Why???
In the next replie you would see him totally naked...Only for you...

[Elba]

This is the hemerographic references of Danyet

JOSEPH FARAH: Journalist

Farah stated "We are not conservative. We are the largest independent news site on the Net"[5].
BUT
In his work he proclaims, "The choice is simple: The world of standards and morality, of marriage, order, the rule of law, and accountability to God? Or the world of anything-goes, aberrant sexual behavior, doing-your-own-thing lifestyles, and moral codes that change with the speed of the latest public-opinion poll?"[6] Also tied to WND is Farah's "G2 Bulletin", an online "intelligence newsletter" which focuses on world events viewed through a conservative perspective. Farah is also known for his strong support for Israel and is possibly one of the most notable and outspoken pro-Israeli Arab writers[citation needed]. He has criticized the Israeli government for negotiating too much with the Palestinians and abandoning lands which he believes were given to the Jewish people by God.

AND MUCH MORE BEAUTIFUL THINGS ABOUT FARAH

Farah made a name for himself in 1990 when he became editor of the Sacramento Union newspaper under the ownership of Daniel Benvenuti Jr. and David Kassis when the three turned the paper in a more conservative direction.[1] Benvenuti and Kassis bought the newspaper from billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife who was also a conservative and would eventually fund the Arkansas Project in an attempt to bring down Bill Clinton. After 15 months as editor of the Union, Farah stepped down, in part from the 30 percent decline of the paper's circulation. (The Sacramento Union was bankrupt by 1994, but became an online monthly magazine in 2004.)[1] Prior to working at the Union, he was the executive news editor of the Los Angeles Herald Examiner (now closed) and served as editor-in-chief for various California dailies and weeklies.

Farah began working with Rush Limbaugh on the book See, I Told You So, which was released in 1994. Yet, by 1997 Farah co-founded the Western Journalism Center with James H. Smith, (former publisher of The Sacramento Union and former CEO/publisher of the revived Sacramento Union webpage). This group supplied Christopher W. Ruddy (founder of NewsMax) with "additional expense money, funding for Freedom of Information Act requests, legal support and publicity during his" investigation of a Clinton conspiracy surrounding the suicide of Vince Foster.[1] In the 1994-95 course of the Center Scaife-connected foundations gave $330,000 in donations to the group.[2]( By May 1997, Farah set his eyes on the internet and set up WorldNetDaily (WND) as a project of the Center. In 1999, WorldNetDaily.com, Inc., with offices in Cave Junction, Ore. was incorporated in Delaware as a for-profit subsidiary of the non-profit Western Journalism Center with the backing of $4.5 million from investors.[3] As a result, Farah and the Western Journalism Center possess the bulk of the WND stock, but the remainder is owned by about 75 private investors. In August 2001, Business Week cited Farah who claimed WND had began to profit employing 25 workers.[4] Currently the webpage has a staff of 20 people. His wife, Elizabeth Farah, also contributes to WND.

In 1996, Farah wrote a book with Richard Pombo concerning property rights.

In addition to directing the news-gathering operation at WorldNetDaily, he is also a nationally syndicated radio talk-show host and nationally syndicated columnist. His radio service contains a variety of shows focusing on current affairs as well as topics on conservatism, liberalism and Christianity. However, on December 20, 2005 Farah announced he was "calling it quits on his national radio show next year" with the last day on January 13 2006. Farah said this was to spend more time with the WND website & his family [5] He is also the founder of ShopNetDaily where books on Christianity, politics and other world issues are sold.

He is considered a trailblazer as an architect of the "anti-liberal establishment" news outlets, which include talk radio, conversative publications, and on-line sources.[citation needed]

Thank you to your contribution to the Latinamerican Forum Dear Danyet.You show us a very important side of our reality. In this way people of the clubhouse could understand us better and see we have a common enemy... THE INFAMY.

Kisses for you,

[Danyet]

Thank you for the kisses. I like a lotta kisses. Kisses are good ....even when I fight with the girl who gives them to me!
Anyway, about Joseph Farah. He sounds like a really, really, really good guy to me. All those things written about Farah are good things to me. Even I did not know all those things about him until I read your big, big post.
Hmmmmm.....I think perhaps I will give to him a special Cadet Space Ranger Badge!!!

[Tora]

This is sad, Elba. I'm afraid to tell you that due to the amount of criminals in Latin American region this very area is seldom advised to Russian travellers talking from the issue of safety (not only Mexico, but also Brasilia and so forth). By the way I guess this very feeling among foreign tourists divert them form visiting Russia

Probably I'm too pitiless towards teenagers' Mob, but I guess that nothing can stop them apart from life imprisonment. Without reference to the region, I guess every country sharing this problem, has to brace for the new generation to come, to supply them with workplaces and decent salaries. Sometimes it's not an issue of the political and economical situation, but of the up-bringing, mentality... if a person opts earning easy money by committing a crime, I guess it's very complicated to make him work for 40 hours a week and get paid once a month

I'm bot an expert on this question, I'm telling you what I feel

[Elba]

Dear Tora,

The same problem is present in another countries, but there Mara Salvatrucha is called in another ways, as Neo-Nazis.
Recently, I have told you in some messages, a friend of mine come to México. A friend from Russia. I know all the members of the group that came to México, All Russians, and Belive me They had a very good time here.
The problem with that kind of articles is that the objetive of the author is not PREVENT, is scared people in order to denigrate a country.
It is very common for mexicans that the USA government and conservator groups do that with politic objetives:
Remember that too much latinamericans cross the frontier through mexico to USA.
Mexico wants to do a negotiation with USA government about inmigrants, but that means a strong hit to Bush because conservators groups don´t want that agreement, then bush could lost the simpathy of this groups.
The articule of Joseph Farah pretend to stablish a link between Mara Salvatrucha and terrorist of Bin Laden group. And I say pretend because is onlu a suspect, not a fact. but in this way conservators have a hard pretext to reject the inmigration agreement, the way in wich they could convice the citizen to reject that agreement and give suport bush.
But nobody remember that a big contribution to the USA economy is from latinamericans residents in USA. And with that kind of article people think all mexicans are part of Mara salvatrucha, but this group doesn´t represente even the 0.001 per cent of the total population of Mexito. They exist, but they are not a extender group.

[Tora]

Of course I believe you! and Mexico is one of the countries I get excited by just thinking of visiting it, truly! But this sad news doesn't make a good deal for Mexicans. Probably I failed trying to express what I think... hmmm, I'm not mass media fan and do not make decisions based upon common opinions of the selective minority, two or three big articles about such criminal groups and the attitude of some readers is already worked out, so I suppose some even can be quite satisfied with the current situation
about the Mexicans who are crossing illegally American borders... I have watched a documentary about it or a report I'm not quite sure, but the way American forces prevent it and go seeking for those who did cross... frightening in a way
why to go too far? If you have watched the Babel movie you may know it in a small way

[Elba]

Dear Tora,

At México there are too much economic problems, there isn´t enought employee, few oportunities for youngers. the minimum salary of a worker is 50 mexican pesos, almos four dollars PER DAY, could you belive it!! It is too low if you compare the cost of the food. two dollars the kilogram of beens, one dollar the kilogram of tortilla (I´m mentioning the basic foods for a poor mexican), and what happen with the rest expenses: Gas, rent of a house, energy service, hidraulic service, clothes, studies,transport.
If you see the salary is very low.
What is the solution: Too much mexicans get two employees, by hours, at night, or sell things, but this is a short number, there are more unemployees that employees, for that reazon anothers becoming memembrs of the informal economy. those who sell things on the streets and don´t pay taxes. This is an illegal activity, then the police try to cath them.
Another becoming part og the drugs gangs. It is sad, but it is true.
Another good solution is go to USA in order to cross the frontier and get a employee because in this country "gringos" pay 8-15 dollars per hour of work. IN that way they could send money to their families and open a little bussines, along the years they get a good conomic level.
Mexicans have a strong moral, then a big percent of people prefer died of hungry before to stole things or do ilegal activities. But I must to be real, the number of bad people is increazing.
Acording to the USA government a big percent of mexicans living at USA give a big support to the economy of this country, and there are many many people of the USA see with simpathy mexicans because they are good workers. Only a few -racist- hate mexicans.

[hmmw]

Hi Danyet. I have read your article about maras. It is terrible the things they have made, but I think these poor boys have acted in this way because of two main reasons. Number one poverty. If the government would do something such as places to work or places to study they could have acted in a different way. Number two disintegrated homes. If they would have a family they could have learned to love people. Hazel