AUSTRALIAN GOVT. TO DISCUSS ANTI-terrorism POLICIES

[Shazzam]

This has nothing to do with democracy or Labour or Liberal parties. It is how the Aussie govmt. is set up that is the problem. With few checks and balances. THat is why sweeping changes can be made on such short notice. Anyway Howard is a dam site better than Bob Hawk was. Hawk was only voted in because he fooled people (or people were stupid enough to fall for) into thinking he was "just a regular bloke" . Yeah, regular alright. Regular enough to show up to cocktail parties in Canberra get sloshed, and then demand from the hostess of the party to be shown where the girls were waiting for him as arranged and then throw a fit after finding out that no such arrangements were made. What a loser!

Yeh right so what has changed from Hawk to Howard. Don't be naive.

In addition at least we don't have a leader that gets himself a head-.ob from staff. I mean my goodness what a role model.

Then you have another cowboy that rides into town on his daddy's saddle. How sad!

Yes we have our problems, there is no doubt. In the scheme of things I would prefer to have the problems that Australians face today than the problems that Americans face.

We can pretty much hold our heads up high in the World. You have to wonder if most American's can do the same.

[Shazzam]

ninemsn.

The federal government will amost certainly have to delay introducing its counter-terrorism laws, as state and territory leaders demand more time to look over the controversial measures. The prime minister wanted these laws to be through by 1st November (Melbourne Cup day in Australia).

Premiers and Chief Ministers were asked to sign-off on the laws by Friday.

On Wednesday John Howard (Prime Minister of Australia) offered a compromise on the shoot-to-kill clause (what a horrible name for a clause; i mean really couldn't they come up with something a little better than this). He apparently is relaxed about the legislations final form, provided it delivered substance to the original deal with the States.

Question remains over whether the laws are unconstitutional. ACT Chief Minister Jon Stanhope is threatening to withdraw his support for the deal. Mr. Stanhope told ABC radio "It's either constitutionally invalid if you seek to impose on the Courts an adminstrative or executive function, so in order to overcome that constitutional problem and make the legislation valid, you take it away from the Courts."

"(But) if the courts can't be utilised, the prime minister cannot keep his end of the bargain; that there be appropriate judicial oversight, checks and balances that were demanded and agreed to by the Prime Minister.

"I don't understand how they believe that this can be resolved, on the basis of the advice I have....I honestly don't understand how that can happen in we're to maintain our commitment to judicial involvement, judicial oversight."

Queensland Premier Peter Beattie was this week the first of the state Labor leaders to raise concerns that the laws could be open to a High Court challenge.

He said he would await the outcome of a meeting of the nation's solicitors general before signing off on the draft legislation (smart man in my opinion).

Mr Stanhope has written to Mr Howard demanding more time. He said "I can't see how anyone, of the states and territories, can possibly agree to this package in the next two days, it simply can't be done."

Something this complex should be handled with care not haste! Just my opinion...

[Danyet]

Something this complex should be handled with care not haste! Just my opinion...

Yes, think you are right. Except for that "Shoot to Kill Clause" of course. That's gotta be a keeper.

[Shazzam]

Something this complex should be handled with care not haste! Just my opinion...

Yes, think you are right. Except for that "Shoot to Kill Clause" of course. That's gotta be a keeper.

I just knew you would like that clause Danyet!

[Shazzam]

Australian terrorism laws are in place and already there has been action:

A melbourne court has heard that 9 men arrested overnight in counter-terrorism raids formed a group aimed at carrying out a jihad or holywar, as a Sydney man remained in a critical condition after he was shot by police.

If you want to read more on this story click on the link below:

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=70976

[Shazzam]

There is more tonight! A man was shot in a Sydney street and is in a serious but stable condition in Liverpool Hospital (Western Suburbs of Sydney). This man drew his weapon on police (so they shot him) can't say I blame them. This was after a surveilance program by police following sweeping changes to the anti-terrorism laws.

If these kinds of actions prevent innocent people being killed; then I have to say i'm all for it. It is like the jungle "kill or be killed". Sad but true. If they want to run a Jihad in this country then we need to defend ourselves. SO DOES EVERYONE ELSE!

All that worries me is that innocent muslim followers are going to be hurt as well.