AUSTRALIAN GOVT. TO DISCUSS ANTI-terrorism POLICIES

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Postby Shazzam » Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:20 am

danyet wrote:http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0805/pipes2005_08_30.php3
Costello goes further, observing that Australia "is founded on a democracy. According to our Constitution, we have a secular state. Our laws are made by the Australian Parliament. If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Shari'a law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you." Islamists with dual citizenship, he suggests, could be asked "to exercise that other citizenship," i.e., leave Australia.
Likewise, Brendan Nelson, Australia's education minister, also on Aug. 24 urged immigrants to "commit to the Australian constitution, Australian rule of law." If not, "they can basically clear off." Geert Wilders, head of his own small party in the Dutch parliament, similarly called for the expulsion of non-citizen immigrants who refuse to integrate.
But it was the British shadow defence minister, Gerald Howarth, who went the furthest, suggesting in early August that all British Islamists must go. "If they don't like our way of life, there is a simple remedy: go to another country, get out." He directed this principle even to Islamists born in Britain (such as three of the four London bombers): "If you don't give allegiance to this country, then leave."


BRAVO! I'm happy with that. Why come here in the first place to start a new life if you are going to bring all your old hangups with you. 8) :)
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Postby Shazzam » Fri Sep 09, 2005 12:14 am

Mr Howard yesterday informed the nation of the new laws that will be passed in connection with anti-terrorism policy.

There will be extended rights given to security agencies to detain suspects for at least 48 hours without charges. In addition anyone that enters this country that the Government feels could be suspicious will be monitored (like having to answer to a police station everyday). There will also be further laws put in place to stop anyone coming into the Country that is deemed unacceptable.

I don't have all the details yet; but from what I have heard it is pretty much in line with what the British authories used after the terrorist attacks; they were quite successful.

I really don't have a problem with changes to improve security. I think if you want to come here peacefully; great, if not don't come. :)
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Postby Shazzam » Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:19 am

Saturday 15th October, 2005.

The federal government has failed to provide adequate public consultation on proposed new anti-terrorism laws, the law council of NSW says. The ACT government pre-empted the federal government when it released draft legislation on its web-site.

The laws provide greater powers for the Australian Federal Police, including giving them the ability to lock-up people thought to be involved, or to have knowledge of a terrorist act.

The new laws would also result in the introduction of control orders and means people can be forced into wearing a tracking device and also have bans imposed on where they go, who they contact and even on the forms of communication; such as , phones and the internet, they might use.

State and Territory governments signed off on the tougher counter-terrorism laws last month.

The Law Society of NSW said federal government's rush to pass the draft laws through parliament is a misuse of power.

"It's a grave concern that such important legislation which intrudes on individual rights is not given adequate time for public consultation and parliamentary debate," Law Society of NSW President John McIntyre said.

"The government's lip-service to basic parliamentary procedure means that potential flaws in the proposed counter-terrorism legislation are likely to go undetected and could be an unnecessary erosion of the fundamental principles of the rules of law."

Mr McIntyre called on NSW Premier Morris Iemma to join the Law Society in its call for extra time to carry out a more detailed assessment of the laws.

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Postby MissLT » Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:12 am

While you guys are discussing about anti-terrorism, we're discussing about anti-americanism. Thanks to baby Bush we're now American Idiots :x .
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Postby Danyet » Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:13 am

So what else is new? Australian govt., always rams its policies on its people without their consent or concern for freedom of individual rights. Look at the way they outlawed the ability for people to protect themselves from home invasion, mugging and being murdered a few years ago by confiscation of firearms. How is a 90 pound woman going to thwart off a rapist in her own home now????? hmmm....wait for the cops tpo show up?

Don't even get me started on how the Aussie govt. thinks.....Australia Card...Pfft!!
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Postby MissLT » Sat Oct 15, 2005 4:16 am

danyet wrote:So what else is new? Australian govt., always rams its policies on its people without their consent or concern for freedom of individual rights. Look at the way they outlawed the ability for people to protect themselves from home invasion, mugging and being murdered a few years ago by confiscation of firearms. How is a 90 pound woman going to thwart off a rapist in her own home now????? hmmm....wait for the cops tpo show up?

Don't even get me started on how the Aussie govt. thinks.....Australia Card...Pfft!!

Where do you live now, the US or Australia? :roll:
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Postby Danyet » Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:10 am

I live in
America!
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Postby MissLT » Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:19 am

danyet wrote:I live in
America!

Then don't get started on how the Australian's government thinks! :lol:
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Postby Shazzam » Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:19 am

danyet wrote:So what else is new? Australian govt., always rams its policies on its people without their consent or concern for freedom of individual rights. Look at the way they outlawed the ability for people to protect themselves from home invasion, mugging and being murdered a few years ago by confiscation of firearms. How is a 90 pound woman going to thwart off a rapist in her own home now????? hmmm....wait for the cops tpo show up?

Don't even get me started on how the Aussie govt. thinks.....Australia Card...Pfft!!


It sounds like you have a problem with authority Danyet. Are you one of these people that wants to be in control of everything? When you live in a democracy there is power in numbers. The problem with the current system in Australia is that the Liberal Government (lead by the Prime Minister- John Howard) has control of the senate.

Now whose fault is that? I'll tell you: Australian's. They voted him in with unprecedented majority. The only reasons I can see is that the man is good with a calculator. He has no community spirit and he really doesn't give a ...ht about the little man. He is a company man.
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Postby Danyet » Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:56 am

This has nothing to do with democracy or Labour or Liberal parties. It is how the Aussie govmt. is set up that is the problem. With few checks and balances. THat is why sweeping changes can be made on such short notice. Anyway Howard is a dam site better than Bob Hawk was. Hawk was only voted in because he fooled people (or people were stupid enough to fall for) into thinking he was "just a regular bloke" . Yeah, regular alright. Regular enough to show up to cocktail parties in Canberra get sloshed, and then demand from the hostess of the party to be shown where the girls were waiting for him as arranged and then throw a fit after finding out that no such arrangements were made. What a loser!
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