Kyoto ~ "Walk against Warming."

[Shazzam]

Thousands of Australians in six states joined protest walks urging the Australian government to sign an international agreement intended to cut greenhouse transmissions.

The "walk against warming" is part of an international campaign to coincide with the United Nations climate change talks in Montreal, Canada.

Australia and the United States are the only western industrialised nations which have refused to sign the global Kyoto protocol ( I wonder why? ). Arguing it is damaging to their economic interests.

[Danyet]

We haven't signed that stupid treaty because there are still a few of us left that know that it is a sham. I did not think that Russia had signed it either. The treaty won't work because it allows most other growing nations to be exempt. In other words .......it is a kind of suicide pact. And all this for a theory that may well turn out to be based on "junk Science".

[Shazzam]

We haven't signed that stupid treaty because there are still a few of us left that know that it is a sham. I did not think that Russia had signed it either. The treaty won't work because it allows most other growing nations to be exempt. In other words .......it is a kind of suicide pact. And all this for a theory that may well turn out to be based on "junk Science".

I won't go into this on a scientific level because to be honest I don't have all the facts. From what I do know about it; the countries that are exempt are not highly industrialised. In other words their countries don't have the same level of greenhouse gases. I can't see what is wrong with decreasing pollution from the air that we breathe and the water that we drink I know that it is simplisitic view; however I'm sure that the politicians are aware that there are steps that can be taken to provide cleaner services; their concerns are always about the 'bottom line'. I have to wonder what sort of future our children will have if we don't clean up our act?

[Danyet]

It is a bandaid! If the powers that be, whoever they are, really cared at all then we would already have stopped using fossil fuels long age. We have the technology for this locked up somewhere. Any invention that does not involve oil "dissappears". Lets not kid ourselves, the kyoto treaty is just a distraction and green house gasses will be produced until the last drop of oil.

[Shazzam]

It is a bandaid! If the powers that be, whoever they are, really cared at all then we would already have stopped using fossil fuels long age. We have the technology for this locked up somewhere. Any invention that does not involve oil "dissappears". Lets not kid ourselves, the kyoto treaty is just a distraction and green house gasses will be produced until the last drop of oil.

I can see where you are coming from; but a small step is better than no step at all. I suppose the people that need to take action are governments and heads of industry.

How do you think we could reduce greenhouse gases?

In Australia now nearly every local government has introduced recycling programs. When they first started off they didn't work very well, but as time has gone by the programs have improved and people are finding them easier to use. Overall I think they are a success now.

All we have to do is educate young parents about disposable nappies. They are nasty!

[Danyet]

All we have to do is educate young parents about disposable nappies. They are nasty!

You can forget about that. No one in their right mind will give up disposable nappies for the old fashion kind. This is a pipe dream i tell you. As far as I am concerned the invention of disposable nappies defines modern civilization and is the jewel in humankinds crown. So don't preach your hippy immorality around me young missy. They will just have to make room in their landfills for these beacons of culture.

[Shazzam]

All we have to do is educate young parents about disposable nappies. They are nasty!

You can forget about that. No one in their right mind will give up disposable nappies for the old fashion kind. This is a pipe dream i tell you. As far as I am concerned the invention of disposable nappies defines modern civilization and is the jewel in humankinds crown. So don't preach your hippy immorality around me young missy. They will just have to make room in their landfills for these beacons of culture.

I hope you are kidding They are an expensive waste for lazy people that can't be bothered to operate a washing machine.

[Danyet]

Sorry, but it would be unsanitary to try to wash those things.......yuky!

[Danyet]

http://www.sepp.org/NewSEPP/Kyoto-Patterson.htm
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However, the scientific review process that all studies must undergo before publication had failed in the case of the MBH98 paper. The temperature data before 1900 were not directly measured, as they were after 1900 when land-based thermometer readings were used. Instead, pre-1900 temperatures were calculated based on the measurement of "proxies," natural phenomena such as the growth of tree rings or coral that indicate what temperature was at certain times in the past.
Consequently, grafting the two very different types of data sets together without significant overlap to come to dramatic conclusions was unwarranted and should have been seriously contested by the paper's reviewers.
Chris de Freitas of the School of Geography and Environmental Science at the University of Auckland, New Zealand, sums up, "The Mann 'hockey stick' is nothing more than a mathematical construct vigorously promoted in the IPCC's 2001 report to affirm the notion that temperature changes of the 20th century were unprecedented."

[MissLT]

I hope you are kidding They are an expensive waste for lazy people that can't be bothered to operate a washing machine.

Shazzam, you bought diapers for your kids or you used cloth? You can wash diapers made with cloth, but not the kinds they have on market. Right? Or Am I slow with both of you guys' jokes?