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Scenes at Cronulla Beach that I have never seen before!

Postby Shazzam » Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:26 am

I was rocked tonight when I watched the news. Last weekend two life guards were attacked on Cronulla Beach, Sydney. These attacks were by some middle-eastern origin teenagers from the west of Sydney.

The repercussions of this today took another turn. I have never seen anything like what went on there today. Police in helicopters going over the beach etc.

Then 5,000 teenagers who had been bbqing and drinking heavily whilst making a stance; went on a rampage, pretty much targeting anyone that looked like they were not one of them.

There was no need for this type of behaviour. :roll: I'm sure that it was fueled by boredom and alcohol as there was nothing happening. What could have been a patriotic peaceful protest, turned ugly. :oops: :(

If you want to read more here is the link:

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=75226
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Postby Danyet » Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:30 pm

What are you talking about? It was fueled by the Australian government and backed by the media when they rammed through Australias' more recent immigration policies. The same failed policies that had previously been implemented in Britain, Europe and the USA.
The same failed policies that are now the cause for racial unrest that we saw in France just a few weeks ago.

The rediculous Aussie politicians decided for everyone in Australia that Australians needed to have a huge population for their economical gain. So they implemented this unrealistic quota for getting people to come to Australia. They campained in surrounding countries for immigrants and lied to them saying that Australians would welcome them knowing full well that that the average Aussie would reject the new immigrants. The Average Aussie liked things as they already were. The population of Australia doubled in a short time due to the immigration. Aussies don't breed that fast. So almost one in two is foriegn born. That is a HUGE thing for any country to handle. This type of immigration leaves no room for integration of immigrants, no time for them to adopt their new countries customs and destroys the fabric and common bond between Aussies.

And since we already had the failed examples of Britain, Europe and the USA to look to, to show us what our future would be if we followed them, Aussies can only blame themselves for this mess.
And I for one, am appauled at what has been done to Australia while I have been gone. The land I knew, my Australia, does not exist anymore.

These scenes from Nine News were predicted many years ago.
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Postby Shazzam » Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:41 pm

I think most Australias are well aware that the immigration policies of our country leave alot to be desired, but the "White Australian Policy" wasn't acceptable either.

I understand what you are saying but this current situation wasn't fueled by politics, it was fueled by 'territorial rights'.

Long before immigration policies were an issue there have always been territorial problems with surfies, sharpies, bikies, westies; just to name a few. In the 70's the surfies and sharpies were always 'blueing'.

From the information that I have this current situation was created by some middle-east teenagers that decided to go to Cronulla from the western suburbs of Sydney and physically attack people on the beach (one week ago). Locals were enraged and initially encouraged the actions of the young people to have a peaceful demonstration yesterday. The coverage we are seeing this morning is like something from overseas; I can't believe it is happening in Australia. :twisted:

Apparently last night another group of middle-eastern youths came back to the area and stabbed a young man in the back, before taking baseball bats to 100 cars between, Maroubra, Brighten-le-sands and Cronulla. :twisted:

I do agree with you that Australia has changed for the worse.

I'm so glad that I live in a regional area. Sydney was changing before I left it 12 years ago. I grew up in the beachside suburbs and it breaks my heart to watch what is going on. :oops:

The NSW Government has to do something to make the little areas that people have left to enjoy themself, safe! I don't know how they are going to do it, but they will have to find the answers. That is what the fat cats get paid to do!!! My recommendation would be that they do it FAST, because I think this is only the beginning. :(
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Postby Danyet » Mon Dec 12, 2005 1:52 am

The White Australia Policy had its place for its time. Australians owe who they are today because of it. It gave Australia a chance to become who they wanted to become and prevented many of the problems that other countries have from appearing in Australia. Without this policy you would find your life today in Australia quite different.

It is not bigoted to want your own culture to survive. Everyone wants that. But those who choose to immigrate to Australia can only be those who want to adopt a new culture. The Aussie culture.

Aussie culture means knowing what a “Fair go” is. The Lebonese who attacked people, cars and lifesavers at Cronulla were not giving anyone a fair go.
Being an Aussie means not throwing your meat pie wrappers on the ground and not swarming the beach parking lots on the week-ends armed with ghetto blasters and busting out break dancing.

Before being admitted into Australia one should have to swear allegiance to the Aussie way and forced to use words like “G’day”, “she’ll be right!”, “Too right, mate”! and “strueth”. And if you run a milk bar you should be friendly.

Aussies don’t care what colour you are they just want you to think like an Aussie, that’s all. And that want to know that their Aussie culture will survive.
Don’t leave it to the politicians to sort out immigration policies. They have made a mess of it so far. Why think it will change? The only way to change things is to add your voice to those Aussies on the cannel 9 news that were portrayed as drunken bigots by the media. (By the way, alcohol had nothing to do with that. ) And DEMAND to be heard!
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Postby Shazzam » Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:29 am

Alcohol had nothing to do with it :?: Rubbish! :!: add that to testosterone and you have a problem turn into a war.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Yes all aussies want everyone to come here and embrace our culture. But hey it isn't going to happen! It doesn't mean that we have to get out into the streets in Bondi and turn them into the Gaza Strip.

And I hate to say this but you are only looking at one view of the media coverage. I had friends that were down there yesterday they saw first hand what happened.
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Postby Danyet » Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:55 am

No, I am not seeing just one media view. I have seen this live for myself. I surfed Cronulla Bondi Maroubra and all the way to Palm Beach. I did not even bother going to Bondi on the weekends anymore as the whole pavillion was covered by Lebo-gangsters. Aparranatly things have gotten worse. Now I hear that Aussie girls are routinely accosted by Lebonese guys whose own muslim women are over by the surf clubs trying to swim fully covered. Except for at Maroubra. The girls don't get harrassed there because of the local men protecting them. The Lebos stay away from there.

This is from the Sydney Morning Herald

"At its worst, this culture had overtones of civil war, as the Kanaan gang sprayed the Lakemba police station with gunfire. One of those who took part in this attack was Saleh Jamal, now in jail in Lebanon on weapons charges. He has turned to Islamic fundamentalism and wanted to explode a terrorist bomb in Sydney before he fled the country.

The cops hate and fear the swarming packs of Lebanese who respond when some of their numbers are confronted, mobilising quickly via mobile phones and showing open contempt for Australian law. All this is the real world, as distinct from the world preferred by ideological academics who talk about "moral panic" and the oppression of Muslims. They will see only Australian racism as the problem."""
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Postby Shazzam » Mon Dec 12, 2005 5:25 am

Everything you have said is right except for the fact that alcohol didn't fuel the situation; because it did. But hey I don't blame the aussies for feeling the way they do; I just don't like the fact that they brought themselves down to the level of these scumbags. It plays right into their hands.

I know something needs to be done, I just don't have the answer. I wish I did.

I just think these areas will be a good place to stay away from for a while. I think the local councils need to put security in place to shove these creeps back on the trains, so that locals and their families aren't put off going to the beach. I mean for godsake what is left for families to do in Sydney that doesn't cost a bomb. Even going to the beach for the day is costly the way local councils charge for parking. :roll:

The whole thing stinks. :roll:
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Postby Shazzam » Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:01 pm

I spoke with another group of friends that were in Sydney at the weekend and they have confirmed that everything was fine in the morning; but the more alcohol that was consumed the worse things got. I still stick by my first post that the situation was bad and there is no doubt about that but young people and alcohol, heat and a desire for revenge is not a good mix and not the AUSSIE WAY!
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Postby Shazzam » Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:40 pm

One of the men involved in Saturday's uprising in Cronulla were jailed for four months yesterday. At last the magistrate system is starting to do some work. :D
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