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Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 7:46 am
by Valery
In fact,Happiness is a journey.U couldn't find it out.but you can feel it.

Posted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:25 am
by kpchoo
What is the point to seek for happiness when sadness is bound to come? Everyone's life is repeating the same thing, cant ppl see that this kind of repeating life is meaningless?

I wonder how long will it take for human being to grow beyond happiness and sadness. Maybe human are just too afraid to step into unknown, hence history keep repeating itself.

Re: I think,

Posted: Sat May 12, 2007 12:09 pm
by Ees
I agree with that the happiness exists in our minds. I believe so too and that is why I believe also that it is possible to be happy at anytime, anywhere or in any situation. Of course it is not easy or often, but I think it is possible. It just needs some work.

I see there is two kind of happiness. The first one is passionate happiness, that is found by outside. If something really good happens then the happiness we feel is passionate happiness. But that is not everlasting happiness. If the good thing that made someone happy is suddenly gone, then the happiness is gone also. In the passionate happiness, if something good happens, we feel enormous happiness, but if something bad happens, we feel enormous sadness. It is like the wind. First it asks something good and after that it loves the world outside.

The second kind of happiness is an attitude, calm happiness. That comes from inside of us, from our mind. That comes if somebody loves that he has, loves the chance to love etc. If somebody feels that kind of happiness, there is no need to something fantastic to happen. In calm happiness we are glad of the good things that happens, but if something bad happens, we do not lose the happiness. It is that what gives the strenght to us to face the bad things and it is our attitude that reminds us that there is always something to be glad of. Then we are happy for the hardship, because we have an opportunity to learn something from that. In calm happiness there is first the love from inside of us and then comes other things.

Passionate happiness: "I love just because I am happy."
Calm happiness: "I am happy just because I love."

Passionate happiness: "I am everything. If you have me, you can see only me and you are in heaven. But if you don't have me, you see only the loss of me and you suffer."
Calm happiness: "You don't have to look at me. You look with me, I am your attitude. You can watch the outside world in peace with me."

If you seek passionate happiness, you maybe want to be always richer, more beautiful or you wannt to have more lovers, fame or honour. Then you ask for things.
If you seek calm happiness, all you need is your love. You don't have to be anything more. Then you can give.

Finding happiness depends wholly on that what you ask to be happy.

This is how I see happiness, but of course this is only one way to see it.

happiness

Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 4:07 pm
by Bambang
Hi Valery.

I'd like to comment your opinion on happiness.
You said that we cant find it. I am not with you on this matter. Happiness is something that we can find. A small example is when we can make somebody happy, we'll usually be happy too. We can be happy by making somebody or others happy. And to do it, we've got to learn the way.

I know that happiness is subjective. But it is real. We can feel it. And to get that feeling, process is needed. Struggle is needed. To make it simpler. I'll give you one example. Here it is:

One day a daughter wanted to make her mom happy in her mom's b'day. Then she wrote a song for her mom. She sang the song beautifully on her mom's b'day. She did her best. Then she kissed her mom and gave a hug and said "Mom, thank you for everything you have done to me. I really appreciate it. I am proud to be your daughter. You are the best mom in this world". She said that sincerely. And she cried while kissing and hugging her mom. Her mom was impressed and cried too. The girl recalled her dad who had passed away. Her mom did it too. Even though they were crying, they were very happy on that day. And of course that happiness didn't come from nowhere. It happened because the daughter had fought to make her mom happy. He thought hard to write an impressing song just for her mom. She fought for that and then she got it.

So, Valery. My point is do not wait the happiness comes to you. instead, pls fight for it. Go for it.
Find it.

Thanks Valery. Keep in touch. :)

Sincerely,
Bambang Susilo

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 9:24 am
by fayehfy
But the problem is what is your definition for " Happiness"? Someone is easily satisfied but others not.

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 9:25 am
by fayehfy
But the problem is what is your definition for " Happiness"? Someone is easily satisfied but others not.

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:36 am
by Chet Baker
This is a very difficult question to answer. In my experience, if you intend to find something trying to make you feel happy, you will fail.

Sometime, when your expectation is too positive, such expectation will only barricade your eyes, then you can't turely see what's happening, you will not be able to accept something below your expectation as the result. Then, you will feel unhappy.

So, where is true happiness:?:

Re: Nobody can be happy by trying to find happiness.

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:18 pm
by awuyhoho
TalkingPoint wrote:Nobody can be happy by trying to find happiness.
Is it possible to find happiness if you look for it?
Is it an impossible dream? Is it selfishness that will end in failure? Or is it the right of every human being?
Is it possible to find happiness if you look for it?---yes
I'm trying very hard to find it
and I found if I really did find it
it was easily found
e.g: I was very tired back from working very night
my mother waited me till I was back
and a cup of coffee was for me :)
I felt very happy at that time
many times I listen my favorite music I feel happy
after a delicious meal I feel happy
If I finish the work I feel happy
If I pass the exam I feel happy
When I saw the pictures of TVXQ(my favorite pop star) I feel happy
...
lots of things to make our lives happy

p.s:aren't you happy ?

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 4:09 pm
by Heidi
Without pain,noone gains happiness.
As usual,a workaholic,getting up at the dawn , working just for $200 a week,neverthless, 1 minute late mistaken by his wristwatch,he was fired unwillingly.A schoolboy,reading more reference book, all day without goout,from morning until night, just for passing exam, but was doomed to failure.Or, a 17-year-old girl, depositing tons and tons of money, however, was cheated by her beloved boyfriend, as a result,all her wish such as accomplishment of her schooling or marriage with her "kind" boyfriend,desperately all gone with the wind.Unforturnetly?the answer maybe not necessarily. because nexttime the workaholic will not be blamed for lacking of punctuality,he has learned to adjust his timing;the schoolgirl also gained to arrange and categorize the materials which is helpful for the test and instead, avoiding roaming enormous time consuming at her study;Finally,the clever little women would say farewell to her ignorance and innocence,this means she has become
mature--a real woman with a cute insight facing the cruel and indifferent world.So,can we see that---- from the pain,you gain the happy?

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 4:51 pm
by Bambang
fayehfy wrote:But the problem is what is your definition for " Happiness"? Someone is easily satisfied but others not.
My friend, you don't need to think hard on the definition on "happiness". When we are happy we know what the happiness is. Just find it and feel it !!!

Certainly, happiness is subjective. Something can make somebody happy but not the others. Or even it may make somebody very unhappy.

awuyhoho wrote:lots of things to make our lives happy .
See !!!
You yourself said that we can find happiness. So just go find it, feel it and enjoy it buddy !!!
chet baker wrote:This is a very difficult question to answer. In my experience, if you intend to find something trying to make you feel happy, you will fail. .
Fail !!! Fail !!!!
No way my friend.
If you are really serious in finding the happiness then you'll get it. Believe me my friend. You'll get it. Just follow the example I have posted on May 13 ( two posts) after yours. You'll get it my dear friend.

kathfap wrote:The happiness exists in our minds...

I think that the happiness is subjective and changeable. Nowadays you can be happy with something or someone and tomorrow not more.
We are in line on this my friend. happines really exists. It's also subjective. Again, I agree with you. Happiness is changable ? Again, again, I am with you on this.

But my friend, just because it is changable, doesn't mean it will make us pesimistic to get it. Just go get it with all heart. Are you with me on this my dear friend?

I just wanna say something to all members that life is a cycle. Sometimes we are happy and sometimes sad. That's normal. That's the essence of life. Nobody in this world that is happy all the time. And similarly, nobody in this planet that is sad all the time. All we have to do is to increase the amount of our happiness and at the same time decrease our amount of sadness. :wink: :) :D

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:42 am
by nightwish
Find happiness!
The question is: where we could find it?

Happiness is everywhere. We choose when we want to be happy ,everytihng is in our hands, and all is up to us.
live everyday as if it is the last, live it with a smile and be happy because nothing last forever and we live just once.

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 4:36 am
by Krisi
:roll: :arrow: I think we cannot find it nor does it come to us. We make it! Difficult though. Because we often get disapponted if we try to look for it.

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 11:22 am
by lady
in my opinion happiness is everywhere if you want to be happy this your hands you will find this searchingly.

Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:14 am
by YayuRahayu
Happiness sometime couldn't define if we cant run it by ourselves.

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:28 pm
by Alfabeto
You people!! Don't worry about happiness!! There are many more important things to do in life!! Happiness is an idea invented by Aristotle more than 2000 years ago, but really there's no objective measure of happiness. Anyway the worst kind of happiness is private, individual happiness, like having a luxurious home and expensive car. Only little people worry about that.

Re: Nobody can be happy by trying to find happiness.

Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:50 pm
by ahmedxzxz
hello to all memebers of englishclub.
in fact,happiness is not an easy subject for anyone to get it..but i think that happiness consists of many factors according to each one's life and circumstances.So,if you want to find happiness ,do good things .this may make you happy and be sure that if you follow your creator believes and religious behaviour you will be happy,too.

Re: Nobody can be happy by trying to find happiness.

Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 11:27 am
by Annaa
Maybe (s)he can be happy by trying to fing happiness,we don`t know .But I know only a think happiness goes and come.

Re: Nobody can be happy by trying to find happiness.

Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:16 am
by FireLotus
I always thought that we are not happy unless we see our happiness. For me,living is happiness,having friends,family,healthy body,etc. is happiness too. Maybe trying to find our happiness can bring it to us,too,BUT that depends on what we are looking for and HOW we do it. That is all.
Sometimes happiness is easier to reach than to imagine,because we are happy,but we don't know,how.

Re: Nobody can be happy by trying to find happiness.

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:31 pm
by bruna
:-P :-P just people who feel sad and unhappy try to look for happines the others never understand those who make the effort to find it out. :-P :-P

Re: Nobody can be happy by trying to find happiness.

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:19 am
by lovsmalgir
yes, nobody can be happy by only trying to find happiness without doing. if we think that we want to make our lives happy, it is a good step. then we must do some other steps. for example, we try to earn moneys by works, for more friends, act with people arround us politely, make some charity... then we will feel happy. Having a good idea, then make it true.
I am a new member here.. please feel free to contact with me.
I'm very happy to have more friends..

Re: Nobody can be happy by trying to find happiness.

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:23 am
by lovsmalgir
yes, nobody can be happy by only trying to find happiness without doing. if we think that we want to make our lives happy, it is a good step. then we must do some other steps. for example, we try to earn moneys by works, for more friends, act with people arround us politely, make some charity... then we will feel happy. Having a good idea, then make it true.
I am a new member here.. please feel free to contact with me.
I'm very happy to have more friends..

Re: Nobody can be happy by trying to find happiness.

Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 1:02 pm
by studentss
I think if somebody is trying to find hapiness never will find. Be your best friend and try to do good things.

Re: Nobody can be happy by trying to find happiness.

Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 11:48 am
by alkhader
Most people can be happy by trying to find happiness :?:
Well .. What you have to do is [

The Law of Happiness
Understanding of this law can help you achieve a lot of happiness :-D [IF YOU WANT TO STAY HAPPY THEN YOU HAVE TO KEEP OTHERS HAPPY ] :-D

Explanation :

Every individual is surrounded by other individuals/people. All these individuals/people are categorized into 5 circles.

The first or the innermost circle : consists of people who you are coming in contact with the most i.e on a daily basis or very frequently. Examples are your wife/husband, co workers etc.

The second circle : which surrounds the first circle are the people who you meet let us say once or twice a week and are not as frequently in contact with you as the people in the first circle. Examples are some friends you see or visit or people in a class that you are taking once a week etc.

The third circle : surrounds the second circle and consists of individuals who you meet once or twice a year or even once in 5 or any number of years. You know all these people. Examples are distant relatives, old friends etc.

The fourth circle : consists of people you don't know but can meet at any time. Examples are attendant at a grocery store, someone you talk to in an elevator etc.

The fifth circle : Comprises of people you don't know or meet but these people know you. Examples are of fans of rock stars or famous people etc.

Your happiness depends directly, on how happy the individuals are with you, in all these 5 circles.

Sours : http://www.lawofhappiness.blogspot.com/

Regards
Alkhader Ali

Re: Nobody can be happy by trying to find happiness.

Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 2:35 am
by amor
Learn to accept, respect and not to expect too much... then you'll find happiness.

Re: Nobody can be happy by trying to find happiness.

Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:55 pm
by herione


is so hard to find happyness when she is lost


in same time we should look for happyness and never be bored :-|

Re: Nobody can be happy by trying to find happiness.

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:30 am
by Krisi
whenever we are sad it is best to change our mood by thinking of all the happy events in our lives or by doing something that would make us happy. (This is possible.) We cannot find happiness by putting other people down or placing other people in danger.
I think true happiness could only be realized when we least expect it.

Re: Nobody can be happy by trying to find happiness.

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:45 pm
by anazafra
I totally agree. From my point of view happiness comes when you aren´t aware of it. What I want to say, is that sometimes, we are so obstinate in reaching happiness that we ignore it´s nearer than we think. People are 27-7 thinking in theirselves and it isn´t the way. Change that attitude and you will see improvements. Are you willing to take this advice? {-;

Re: Nobody can be happy by trying to find happiness.

Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 3:20 am
by Keough
TalkingPoint wrote:Nobody can be happy by trying to find happiness.

Is it possible to find happiness if you look for it? Is it an impossible dream? Is it selfishness that will end in failure? Or is it the right of every human being?
In my humble opinion, there is no problem in finding happiness. However, the main questions are how you define your happiness and methods to achieve that.

You can find your own happiness. It is your right to do so. But do not do wrong things to get right results.