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I don't think it has anything to do with purity. My thoughts are that is more about ego and control. Men don't like to be compared, if a woman has had more than one partner they feel insecure. The control part stems from the fact that most women have a very special place for their first sexual partner. You can draw you on conclusions on that one. [/quote]
In psycology there is something called the madonna/whore complex...I was merely saying I dont agree with the type of man who wants a girl to be a virgin but he would never conside it for himself...like he should experiment with different partners but these women he beds are not worth marrying...that he saves for a special girl who would never do that, what he has been doing...the double standard. is thatokay to you? and what of those girls who he had sex with were they not worthy of a marriage proposal...even though they may have hung round in the relationship with a guy...in case he was an open minded sort who would one day propose to (silly me)
sexual experimantation on the part of all sexes should be either a right for all or not good for anyone... or how about switching things around TO: NOW you guys stay virgins and we will play around and treat you like rubbish if you do it before marriage.
see what I am sayin?
equality baby!
I don't think it has anything to do with purity. My thoughts are that is more about ego and control. Men don't like to be compared, if a woman has had more than one partner they feel insecure. The control part stems from the fact that most women have a very special place for their first sexual partner. You can draw you on conclusions on that one. [/quote]
In psycology there is something called the madonna/whore complex...I was merely saying I dont agree with the type of man who wants a girl to be a virgin but he would never conside it for himself...like he should experiment with different partners but these women he beds are not worth marrying...that he saves for a special girl who would never do that, what he has been doing...the double standard. is thatokay to you? and what of those girls who he had sex with were they not worthy of a marriage proposal...even though they may have hung round in the relationship with a guy...in case he was an open minded sort who would one day propose to (silly me)
sexual experimantation on the part of all sexes should be either a right for all or not good for anyone... or how about switching things around TO: NOW you guys stay virgins and we will play around and treat you like rubbish if you do it before marriage.
see what I am sayin?
equality baby!
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Re: No Sex Please, we're British!
Yeah i agree with you... i'm french and often we can see in the american movies(for example) old french persons wearing berets, with their breads .. lol .. but its rather funny to see this.TP wrote:No Sex Please, we're British!
We often make generalizations about countries and nationalities. For example, many people think that the British don't like sex. Or we think that all French people wear berets and drink red wine. These are called clichés or stereotypes. These clichés are often inaccurate, or at least out-of-date. Often they are completely wrong and unfair.
Does it help international relations to make generalizations about countries and national characteristics?
But now the new generations are more "open" and it's ok.
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Shazzam wrote:I don't think it has anything to do with purity. My thoughts are that is more about ego and control. Men don't like to be compared, if a woman has had more than one partner they feel insecure. The control part stems from the fact that most women have a very special place for their first sexual partner. You can draw you on conclusions on that one.tikay wrote:You are right! this is so ridiculous, as something of a feminist I have to say how wrong of anyone to expect so much of a girl...or a guy for that matter, and the stereotype is that the woman is purer if she has avoided her sexuality before ...but having been married now she becomes what? a vixen overnight? Then (is she impure the minute she has sex) the things we want from our potential partner in life should be things we will do ourself...just my opinion.Arale wrote:Now most young people have sexual relation before their marriage. And it seems man just want a virgin girl. It is really not fair. Do you think it is an important criterion to find your future spouse?
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I dont particularly like being compared to old lovers either...and it is really rude to do that to a partner...aloud, anyway... and comparisons should even be kept to a minimum in the mind of someone who is willing to move forward , as a form of self-disipline and self control... what is the reason to keep the past lover in mind constantly in the new relationship?
I believe that a person needs to be basically free from past relations/relationships... before joining another person in a new union, unless it is just a one night stand where this doctrine or idea would not really matter,
Still if the former mate, has been rejected, or has rejected you, and that realtionship is truly over...what is the reason to compare the next person to them?
I have had lots of relationships, and I am happy to say that each person had something that drew me in and each relationship could rest on its own attributes and its own life and nuances...there is no need to live in the past.
If a man is really so different than woman...where this is concerned that will have to be proven to me.
A lover is not meant to be compared, but to be loved....for themselves. If someone is comparing them to the last love, that is merely a relationship problem, something to work through together.
I think that men are subliminally programmed and need to shed the programming, that women who sleep around, ( experiment sexually) are not worthy, because of stigma in the past...all men need to do is learn to step into the shoes (ouch) of woman to try to better understand her.
They have imaginations...they can see how wrong it may be, this double-standard. Again I stress: What if the roles were reversed? How would they feel?
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my PersonaL add:
here is my idea of a fair personal add:
Older woman seeks virginal male...must be sexually inexperienced so that I may train, to my particular liking, and that I will not be at risk for even one sexual malady or disease.
must be willing to do whatever I ask even when you find it repulsive,as that obedience, on your part, is part of the ultimate pleasure for me. If you have had any form of sexual experience, I WILL CONSIDER YOU TAINTED, thus, in this instance please do not waste my time, I need a virgin, so do not bother to reply. I will consider your sexual wishes, once our relations are established, but I may not be expected to perform them, if I find them unappealing to my tastes. Still you will be expected to applaud my every desire.
If you meet my requirements then e-mail me at the address below to set up a meeting as soon as humanly possible:
Iamactuallyaguy@kissmail.com (not a real address!)
Ludacris? YES!
would you ever see this honesty in real life ? NO!
would a woman suggest this ? Very doubtful...(no)
do men act this way? (some men) ABSOLUTELY!
Is that insane? YES!
can you change if you are like this? Questionable without therapy.
Older woman seeks virginal male...must be sexually inexperienced so that I may train, to my particular liking, and that I will not be at risk for even one sexual malady or disease.
must be willing to do whatever I ask even when you find it repulsive,as that obedience, on your part, is part of the ultimate pleasure for me. If you have had any form of sexual experience, I WILL CONSIDER YOU TAINTED, thus, in this instance please do not waste my time, I need a virgin, so do not bother to reply. I will consider your sexual wishes, once our relations are established, but I may not be expected to perform them, if I find them unappealing to my tastes. Still you will be expected to applaud my every desire.
If you meet my requirements then e-mail me at the address below to set up a meeting as soon as humanly possible:
Iamactuallyaguy@kissmail.com (not a real address!)
Ludacris? YES!
would you ever see this honesty in real life ? NO!
would a woman suggest this ? Very doubtful...(no)
do men act this way? (some men) ABSOLUTELY!
Is that insane? YES!
can you change if you are like this? Questionable without therapy.
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nonsense! poles are cute... and open-hearted, surely... i didn't have much communication but it was enough for me to realise it!illusion wrote:don't worry, that's what I hear about my my nation too. The Poles are either dunkards or thieves....Boris wrote:I’m from Russia.
I heard terrible amount of stereotype about my country. Every day we drink vodka. Everyone cam meet a bear at the street in Moscow and many many other funny things.
and about russians... i don't know, bears are rare... but about vodka and drinking on the whole... i may say it's comparatively true, to my diappontment...
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HMMMM!
No one has anything to say about my feminist remarks...interesting!
I was at the beach with a group of women once...telling jokes...when one of them told a very offensive joke about a Polish woman on her wedding day...it was awful and made me squirm so i spoke up with my joke...I said "that is terrible... I am a Pole". Everyone got really quiet for awhile and I felt better watching her squirm. I think she apologised and I just accepted it ...that's one point for the bad tikay! I cant stand racism!!! It is ignorance personified, pure and simple.
If you are racist you should not only keep it quiet but work to change your attitudes about people. (I may even have some Pole....werent they very near the Lap people. Those are supposed to be a part of my heritage...as well as six or seven other races/clan/tribes of PEOPLE.
I welcome answers to the feminist add i made y'all!
And to this one too :) :? Where are my supporters!
No one has anything to say about my feminist remarks...interesting!
I was at the beach with a group of women once...telling jokes...when one of them told a very offensive joke about a Polish woman on her wedding day...it was awful and made me squirm so i spoke up with my joke...I said "that is terrible... I am a Pole". Everyone got really quiet for awhile and I felt better watching her squirm. I think she apologised and I just accepted it ...that's one point for the bad tikay! I cant stand racism!!! It is ignorance personified, pure and simple.
If you are racist you should not only keep it quiet but work to change your attitudes about people. (I may even have some Pole....werent they very near the Lap people. Those are supposed to be a part of my heritage...as well as six or seven other races/clan/tribes of PEOPLE.
I welcome answers to the feminist add i made y'all!
And to this one too :) :? Where are my supporters!
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Actually i haven't noticed it before...tikay wrote:HMMMM!
No one has anything to say about my feminist remarks...interesting!
I was at the beach with a group of women once...telling jokes...when one of them told a very offensive joke about a Polish woman on her wedding day...it was awful and made me squirm so i spoke up with my joke...I said "that is terrible... I am a Pole". Everyone got really quiet for awhile and I felt better watching her squirm. I think she apologised and I just accepted it ...that's one point for the bad tikay! I cant stand racism!!! It is ignorance personified, pure and simple.
If you are racist you should not only keep it quiet but work to change your attitudes about people. (I may even have some Pole....werent they very near the Lap people. Those are supposed to be a part of my heritage...as well as six or seven other races/clan/tribes of PEOPLE.
I welcome answers to the feminist add i made y'all!
And to this one too :) :? Where are my supporters!
now i have read! you make me laughing so many times!
I agree nothing of this kind from a lady... but who knows i'm sure there are ladies that do not need to post such inviting messages, they practise it just for fun...
and what do you suggest to change if we are like this? i can't understand :(
and going back... men think of it as they may find it sexual atractive, but making such a proposal... that's weird! ladies have common sense not to do it!
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Common sense...exactly...so do men have none?
So yes I am saying you should change...as soon as possible please!
maybe I lost my true calling as a dominatrix!
I meant to say that one should try to change these evil double-standards...because they do get women killed every single day...you know it happens all the time...it is evil.
Men are not on a higher rung than women but they pretend it then insist on their importance and demand us to adhere to their lies.
we are the superior, of these two choices if anyone is, but we let you play your games, because you will go mad if this game is interrupted!
thanks for answering me!
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So yes I am saying you should change...as soon as possible please!
maybe I lost my true calling as a dominatrix!
I meant to say that one should try to change these evil double-standards...because they do get women killed every single day...you know it happens all the time...it is evil.
Men are not on a higher rung than women but they pretend it then insist on their importance and demand us to adhere to their lies.
we are the superior, of these two choices if anyone is, but we let you play your games, because you will go mad if this game is interrupted!
thanks for answering me!
madame X
now~ get down on your knees!
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Tora wrote:nonsense! poles are cute... and open-hearted, surely... i didn't have much communication but it was enough for me to realise it!illusion wrote:don't worry, that's what I hear about my my nation too. The Poles are either dunkards or thieves....Boris wrote:I’m from Russia.
I heard terrible amount of stereotype about my country. Every day we drink vodka. Everyone cam meet a bear at the street in Moscow and many many other funny things.
and about russians... i don't know, bears are rare... but about vodka and drinking on the whole... i may say it's comparatively true, to my diappontment...
really? I didn't know we were that cute :P
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it's a long story, i was driving (not me but the coach) and visiting places in your country and i almost fall in love with our pole driver, cute really!.. oooh...illusion wrote:Tora wrote:nonsense! poles are cute... and open-hearted, surely... i didn't have much communication but it was enough for me to realise it!illusion wrote: don't worry, that's what I hear about my my nation too. The Poles are either dunkards or thieves....
and about russians... i don't know, bears are rare... but about vodka and drinking on the whole... i may say it's comparatively true, to my diappontment...
really? I didn't know we were that cute :P
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I'm British, I love sex, and I'd rather do it than talk about it!
I live in Brazil where things are somewhat more relaxed and I have no problems adjusting to it. Most of the time, I do things here as I would do them in England and it doesn't cause a problem except when I have to spend 2 hours in the doctor's or dentist's surgery because I arrived on time!
This is about conservatism and etiquette more than about the sex itself. The British still have an acute sense of decorum in public situations, a stereotype that is true. But stereotyping is generalization, which means there are always exceptions. Therefore, they don't accurately describe a nation and even less accurately describe a single person from that country.No sex please, we're British
I live in Brazil where things are somewhat more relaxed and I have no problems adjusting to it. Most of the time, I do things here as I would do them in England and it doesn't cause a problem except when I have to spend 2 hours in the doctor's or dentist's surgery because I arrived on time!
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Re: No Sex Please, we're British!
i think just by using such cliches.. one tries to find some mystique attached to certain community.. i know that i like the way english live.. after all we in india owe a lot to british (Brits brought first spec of technology to our countryland, brit books are liked in india,naturally so..).. The course of mechanical engineering if learned from a German engineer's perpective, it makes one apprciate the Germans..the moment one realises that these are false it simply takes the sheen out of it. This is what we call culture.. and it gotta be distinct..TP wrote:No Sex Please, we're British!
We often make generalizations about countries and nationalities. For example, many people think that the British don't like sex. Or we think that all French people wear berets and drink red wine. These are called clichés or stereotypes. These clichés are often inaccurate, or at least out-of-date. Often they are completely wrong and unfair.
Does it help international relations to make generalizations about countries and national characteristics?
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British tourists travel to estonia only because of sex. They don't care about culture. Tourism offices in britannia shell estonia as a country where can have good sex and cheap alcohol.. The place where to go for stag-night... It's so abusive. There was interview once in tv. with some of those tourist. Those idiots told they do good because they bring money to poor easteuropean Estonia.. Stinky fat british.. I hope they all get HIV here.
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I'm British and HIGHLY OFFENDED by your words.
I've never been to Estonia and I've never been involved in sex tourism.
I'm probably right in saying that the British are not the only ones involved in the toursim there; there will be other nationalities too.
I'm sure that many Estonians are involved in this disgusting activity, too. Does that make you a stinky fat Estonian?
Please direct your anger to 'those British who do this activity' and not to 'British'.
When you say 'British' you refer to all Britons, include me and you are therefore insulting me.
If you say 'those British who do this' then you are talking about those few Britons who participate in that awful activity - and that excludes me; and you're absolutely right, I totally agree.
I've never been to Estonia and I've never been involved in sex tourism.
I'm probably right in saying that the British are not the only ones involved in the toursim there; there will be other nationalities too.
I'm sure that many Estonians are involved in this disgusting activity, too. Does that make you a stinky fat Estonian?
Please direct your anger to 'those British who do this activity' and not to 'British'.
When you say 'British' you refer to all Britons, include me and you are therefore insulting me.
If you say 'those British who do this' then you are talking about those few Britons who participate in that awful activity - and that excludes me; and you're absolutely right, I totally agree.
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Good.
Though, I'm only heard that british tourism offices shell estonia this way. Yes there is seen many tourists from other countries some time, who drunk bottom of table because they find vodka so cheap here, that they find it's crime not to drink. Actually I don't know any of these bordello where they located and I don't get how and why they know...
Though, I'm only heard that british tourism offices shell estonia this way. Yes there is seen many tourists from other countries some time, who drunk bottom of table because they find vodka so cheap here, that they find it's crime not to drink. Actually I don't know any of these bordello where they located and I don't get how and why they know...
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Then, I think you should do some research before you insult a whole nation based only on what you've heard!
England has some very strict laws on sex tourism, some of the most rigid in the world. And don't forget about the marketing expression 'supply and demand'... no supply, no demand; no demand, no supply...
So if all British are dirty fat pigs because they go to Estonia for sex... then all Estonians are prostitutes because they offer sex. So, are you a prostitute? Is your sister a prostitute? Is your mother a prostitute?
Can you see how such generalisations are offensive?
England has some very strict laws on sex tourism, some of the most rigid in the world. And don't forget about the marketing expression 'supply and demand'... no supply, no demand; no demand, no supply...
So if all British are dirty fat pigs because they go to Estonia for sex... then all Estonians are prostitutes because they offer sex. So, are you a prostitute? Is your sister a prostitute? Is your mother a prostitute?
Can you see how such generalisations are offensive?
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In my opinion these clichés just make some kind of conflicts between countries.
Most of these clichés are just another country, however some can be real, for example when some Brazilian people refers to an argentine as a "dirty” person. We say that because when come to our beaches most of them do not care about cleanliness.
Most of these clichés are just another country, however some can be real, for example when some Brazilian people refers to an argentine as a "dirty” person. We say that because when come to our beaches most of them do not care about cleanliness.
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Re: No Sex Please, we're British!
TP wrote:No Sex Please, we're British!
the question is how we can measure sex ? by kilo or cm no one can detect ur biritsh love sex or even by having babies may be the britsh r still concervative a bout the sex but even not talking about not meaning that you do not have it , so enjoy your self
We often make generalizations about countries and nationalities. For example, many people think that the British don't like sex. Or we think that all French people wear berets and drink red wine. These are called clichés or stereotypes. These clichés are often inaccurate, or at least out-of-date. Often they are completely wrong and unfair.
Does it help international relations to make generalizations about countries and national characteristics?
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Re: No Sex Please, we're British!
I burst out when i saw your answer ,it is very funy but get the point .xiaomanman wrote:generalization is inaccurate sometimes. If British people don't like sex, why would so many British babies come to the world everyday? Where are these new babies from?TP wrote:No Sex Please, we're British!
For example, many people think that the British don't like sex.
Of course, they are from sex.
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Re: No Sex Please, we're British!
i think generelalisation gives an idea of how people from other country are but its not always right. people are different according to way they were brought up, the education they had etc... im a brazilian married to a british, didnt know much about english culture before going there, the only thing i could remember of is that they were very punctual and drink tea with milk. ok, they r not that punctual but they love their tea!!!! but still think its good to give u an idea about the main characteristic of the other culture.
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Actually it is good to be aware of different cultures and we should always try to implement the similiar points among each other.
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CULTURAL GENERALIZATION HELP PEOPLE TO INTERGRATE
Judy2004 wrote: We may all admit the fact that people who come from different countries think and behavior in a different way. So before we get to know foreigners, the only way we can obtain an idea about them is from generalizations.Obviously, during the communication with foreigners,if you are equipped with the up-to-date generalizations,you can understand your parter more and feel more comfortable,at the same time, make your parter feel at home.In addition, more information from the generalizations can avoid the misunderstanding ,sometimes even culture conflict to the greatest extent.
In my opinion, cultural generalizations can people help to intergrate in a foreign country. I totally agree with Judy2004, the only way to obtain an idea about the country is from the generalizations. But there's a difference between helpful cultural generalizations and cliches or stereotypes. I think, stereotypes are sometimes funny to hear. (When I hear the american thoughts of my country, Austria, and the lack of similarities between the film "The sound of music" and the real austria) Stereotypes can even humiliate someone, so I think we should take care while talking about prejudices.
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CULTURAL GENERALIZATION DOES NOT MEAN THAT EVERYONE IS LIKE THAT
I strongly agree with PolsihLady, it's a fact that cultural generalizations are helpful, but you shoud pay attention when talking about a foreign country. "cultural generalization" doesn't mean that EVERYONE in this country is like that or does it. e.g: I would say that british people drink a lot of tea, it's a cultural generalization and I think it's true and it's helpful to know when I go to Britain. But I keep in mind, that not everyone in Britain drinks a lot of tea. We are all different, you can't make a generalization about ALL people.PolishLady wrote:Stereotypes are as old as people I think. "The problem" lies in different culture and mentality. I'm partly writing my MA thesis on this topic and I find it very interesting. Why? Because I'm a Pole and I dislike general opinions about my nation, especially given by the Americans as far as I know :( But isn't it a stereotype either?? I'm not going to tell you I don't like the Americans, contrary, I would like to meet some of them :) And the British? Personally, I think they are very original and interesting. And what about us, Polish girls? We are just different, and so are the girls from Germany, Britain, Russia, Slovakia.... With Polish greetings - Polish Lady (not Makbeth )
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Re: No Sex Please, we're British!
There are some people who make generalizations about my country and my people. I think they have to see or experience it themselves if it is true or not.
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Stereotypes - as long as they are positive
I also think that it's helpful to know about different cultures. But I have to strongly disagree with you, sweethuman, because I can only be content with stereotypes and prejudices if they don't effect that people think negatively of different cultures. For example I, as an Austrian, have no problem with foreign people thinking that Austrians wear "Dirndl" and leather trousers all day and everywhere. Because that is nothing that makes the Austrians seem mean or even hazardous. But if I think of the prejudice that the Polish are known for stealing (which isn't true, I know :) ), then I have to say that stereotypes are childish and old-fashioned.sweethuman wrote:Actually it is good to be aware of different cultures and we should always try to implement the similiar points among each other.
(No offence! )
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Here in Austria it's not much different. One week ago in my school, a british women introduced herself and the topic of the lesson was STEREOTYPES. She asked us to speak about some British stereotypes (like all the British love drinking tea) and in return she told us some Austrian. I couldn't believe it but some people really think that we are drinking bear all the time, eating Schnitzel, singing or "jodeling" in the mountains and wearing our traditional "Dirndl" or "Lederhose". In my opinion everybody is unique and it's not possible to summarise the population of one coutry and generalize it.
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Re: No Sex Please, we're British!
Of course there are a few stereotypes in each country and I think the older generation has made them to show that everyone is different and have other stereotypes. I think this is what makes the whole country so special and unique.