hi
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:41 am
Sex, I think every adult like it if he or she have a good health. It is important just like eating and sleeping for a human being.why not a British man?
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I was referring to general conversation not media. I know that most british people don't like discussing sex. They might watch it but they don't like talking about it.LennyeTran wrote:Hmmmm... I believe the stereotype of the Americans don't like sex more than the Brits don't like sex . Americans are afraid to show X-rated scenes on television, but they somehow have teenagers drop out of high school because partly they're pregnant . Brits's televison, on the other hand, shows a lot of nudity. Nothing of that censor board over the nudity parts (I hate it when they're doing the stupid censor thing; it ruins my moods. ) on their shows like American's.Shazzam wrote: Exactly!
The reason it is looked upon that the British don't like sex is because they don't like to talk about sex. It is a taboo. From what I have heard from some people that I know that are British it is seen as being in very bad taste.
Neither do most people in the world. People around the world have jokes about sex, but we don't talk about it as a daily conversation. It even goes far worst in some countries; it's like it's a taboo (you've already said it ). And teaching kids about sex is still something that not everyone agrees on. In America, the school has to have the permission from the parents to teach those kids about safe sex and stuff. I think it's idiotic not to teach kids about safe sex; however, I personally find those who talk about it as like their everyday conversation are having mental disorder. I don't like people who kiss and tell. What happening in the bed should remain in the bed.Shazzam wrote:
I was referring to general conversation not media. I know that most british people don't like discussing sex. They might watch it but they don't like talking about it.
in bed or somewhere else, because doing it always in bed it's kind boring , and besides… I guess it’s not a secret to anyone what is supposed to do 8)LennyeTran wrote:What happening in the bed should remain in the bed.
Uh huh! Intimacy should be respected. We have jokes about sex genders, but not sex in general. Well, we only do that with family or close friends, you agree with me? Not in a crowded place, open public, to strangers, etc. right?Rui wrote:in bed or somewhere else, because doing it always in bed it's kind boring , and besides… I guess it’s not a secret to anyone what is supposed to do 8)LennyeTran wrote:What happening in the bed should remain in the bed.
well, i agree with your opinion... however it's difficult sometimes to understand why people are so shy talking about it, as i said... i do the things that everybody does... and i respect if someone has a different opinion, i don't know but i look to sex like any other thing we do in live, if it gives you pleasure you should do it as much as you can but with careful, i guess we need to have this kind of behave with all matters, isn't it?LennyeTran wrote:Uh huh! Intimacy should be respected. We have jokes about sex genders, but not sex in general. Well, we only do that with family or close friends, you agree with me? Not in a crowded place, open public, to strangers, etc. right?Rui wrote:in bed or somewhere else, because doing it always in bed it's kind boring , and besides… I guess it’s not a secret to anyone what is supposed to do 8)LennyeTran wrote:What happening in the bed should remain in the bed.
As an Amercian, am I a cowboy? No, I cannot ride a horse. Am I culturally ignorate and insensitive? No - as I have lived overseas for some time and speak 3 languages. But, I do share some traits of stereotype cowboys, that is independence a willingness to venture into the unknow. But other cultures share those same traits also.
You are right! this is so ridiculous, as something of a feminist I have to say how wrong of anyone to expect so much of a girl...or a guy for that matter, and the stereotype is that the woman is purer if she has avoided her sexuality before ...but having been married now she becomes what? a vixen overnight? Then (is she impure the minute she has sex) the things we want from our potential partner in life should be things we will do ourself...just my opinion.Arale wrote:Now most young people have sexual relation before their marriage. And it seems man just want a virgin girl. It is really not fair. Do you think it is an important criterion to find your future spouse?
_Arale_
I don't think it has anything to do with purity. My thoughts are that is more about ego and control. Men don't like to be compared, if a woman has had more than one partner they feel insecure. The control part stems from the fact that most women have a very special place for their first sexual partner. You can draw you on conclusions on that one.tikay wrote:You are right! this is so ridiculous, as something of a feminist I have to say how wrong of anyone to expect so much of a girl...or a guy for that matter, and the stereotype is that the woman is purer if she has avoided her sexuality before ...but having been married now she becomes what? a vixen overnight? Then (is she impure the minute she has sex) the things we want from our potential partner in life should be things we will do ourself...just my opinion.Arale wrote:Now most young people have sexual relation before their marriage. And it seems man just want a virgin girl. It is really not fair. Do you think it is an important criterion to find your future spouse?
_Arale_
Yeah i agree with you... i'm french and often we can see in the american movies(for example) old french persons wearing berets, with their breads .. lol .. but its rather funny to see this.TP wrote:No Sex Please, we're British!
We often make generalizations about countries and nationalities. For example, many people think that the British don't like sex. Or we think that all French people wear berets and drink red wine. These are called clichés or stereotypes. These clichés are often inaccurate, or at least out-of-date. Often they are completely wrong and unfair.
Does it help international relations to make generalizations about countries and national characteristics?
Shazzam wrote:I don't think it has anything to do with purity. My thoughts are that is more about ego and control. Men don't like to be compared, if a woman has had more than one partner they feel insecure. The control part stems from the fact that most women have a very special place for their first sexual partner. You can draw you on conclusions on that one.tikay wrote:You are right! this is so ridiculous, as something of a feminist I have to say how wrong of anyone to expect so much of a girl...or a guy for that matter, and the stereotype is that the woman is purer if she has avoided her sexuality before ...but having been married now she becomes what? a vixen overnight? Then (is she impure the minute she has sex) the things we want from our potential partner in life should be things we will do ourself...just my opinion.Arale wrote:Now most young people have sexual relation before their marriage. And it seems man just want a virgin girl. It is really not fair. Do you think it is an important criterion to find your future spouse?
_Arale_
I dont particularly like being compared to old lovers either...and it is really rude to do that to a partner...aloud, anyway... and comparisons should even be kept to a minimum in the mind of someone who is willing to move forward , as a form of self-disipline and self control... what is the reason to keep the past lover in mind constantly in the new relationship?
I believe that a person needs to be basically free from past relations/relationships... before joining another person in a new union, unless it is just a one night stand where this doctrine or idea would not really matter,
Still if the former mate, has been rejected, or has rejected you, and that realtionship is truly over...what is the reason to compare the next person to them?
I have had lots of relationships, and I am happy to say that each person had something that drew me in and each relationship could rest on its own attributes and its own life and nuances...there is no need to live in the past.
If a man is really so different than woman...where this is concerned that will have to be proven to me.
A lover is not meant to be compared, but to be loved....for themselves. If someone is comparing them to the last love, that is merely a relationship problem, something to work through together.
I think that men are subliminally programmed and need to shed the programming, that women who sleep around, ( experiment sexually) are not worthy, because of stigma in the past...all men need to do is learn to step into the shoes (ouch) of woman to try to better understand her.
They have imaginations...they can see how wrong it may be, this double-standard. Again I stress: What if the roles were reversed? How would they feel?
don't worry, that's what I hear about my my nation too. The Poles are either dunkards or thieves....Boris wrote:I’m from Russia.
I heard terrible amount of stereotype about my country. Every day we drink vodka. Everyone cam meet a bear at the street in Moscow and many many other funny things.
nonsense! poles are cute... and open-hearted, surely... i didn't have much communication but it was enough for me to realise it!illusion wrote:don't worry, that's what I hear about my my nation too. The Poles are either dunkards or thieves....Boris wrote:I’m from Russia.
I heard terrible amount of stereotype about my country. Every day we drink vodka. Everyone cam meet a bear at the street in Moscow and many many other funny things.
Actually i haven't noticed it before...tikay wrote:HMMMM!
No one has anything to say about my feminist remarks...interesting!
I was at the beach with a group of women once...telling jokes...when one of them told a very offensive joke about a Polish woman on her wedding day...it was awful and made me squirm so i spoke up with my joke...I said "that is terrible... I am a Pole". Everyone got really quiet for awhile and I felt better watching her squirm. I think she apologised and I just accepted it ...that's one point for the bad tikay! I cant stand racism!!! It is ignorance personified, pure and simple.
If you are racist you should not only keep it quiet but work to change your attitudes about people. (I may even have some Pole....werent they very near the Lap people. Those are supposed to be a part of my heritage...as well as six or seven other races/clan/tribes of PEOPLE.
I welcome answers to the feminist add i made y'all!
And to this one too :) :? Where are my supporters!
Tora wrote:nonsense! poles are cute... and open-hearted, surely... i didn't have much communication but it was enough for me to realise it!illusion wrote:don't worry, that's what I hear about my my nation too. The Poles are either dunkards or thieves....Boris wrote:I’m from Russia.
I heard terrible amount of stereotype about my country. Every day we drink vodka. Everyone cam meet a bear at the street in Moscow and many many other funny things.
and about russians... i don't know, bears are rare... but about vodka and drinking on the whole... i may say it's comparatively true, to my diappontment...
it's a long story, i was driving (not me but the coach) and visiting places in your country and i almost fall in love with our pole driver, cute really!.. oooh...illusion wrote:Tora wrote:nonsense! poles are cute... and open-hearted, surely... i didn't have much communication but it was enough for me to realise it!illusion wrote: don't worry, that's what I hear about my my nation too. The Poles are either dunkards or thieves....
and about russians... i don't know, bears are rare... but about vodka and drinking on the whole... i may say it's comparatively true, to my diappontment...
really? I didn't know we were that cute :P
This is about conservatism and etiquette more than about the sex itself. The British still have an acute sense of decorum in public situations, a stereotype that is true. But stereotyping is generalization, which means there are always exceptions. Therefore, they don't accurately describe a nation and even less accurately describe a single person from that country.No sex please, we're British
i think just by using such cliches.. one tries to find some mystique attached to certain community.. i know that i like the way english live.. after all we in india owe a lot to british (Brits brought first spec of technology to our countryland, brit books are liked in india,naturally so..).. The course of mechanical engineering if learned from a German engineer's perpective, it makes one apprciate the Germans..the moment one realises that these are false it simply takes the sheen out of it. This is what we call culture.. and it gotta be distinct..TP wrote:No Sex Please, we're British!
We often make generalizations about countries and nationalities. For example, many people think that the British don't like sex. Or we think that all French people wear berets and drink red wine. These are called clichés or stereotypes. These clichés are often inaccurate, or at least out-of-date. Often they are completely wrong and unfair.
Does it help international relations to make generalizations about countries and national characteristics?
TP wrote:No Sex Please, we're British!
the question is how we can measure sex ? by kilo or cm no one can detect ur biritsh love sex or even by having babies may be the britsh r still concervative a bout the sex but even not talking about not meaning that you do not have it , so enjoy your self
We often make generalizations about countries and nationalities. For example, many people think that the British don't like sex. Or we think that all French people wear berets and drink red wine. These are called clichés or stereotypes. These clichés are often inaccurate, or at least out-of-date. Often they are completely wrong and unfair.
Does it help international relations to make generalizations about countries and national characteristics?
I burst out when i saw your answer ,it is very funy but get the point .xiaomanman wrote:generalization is inaccurate sometimes. If British people don't like sex, why would so many British babies come to the world everyday? Where are these new babies from?TP wrote:No Sex Please, we're British!
For example, many people think that the British don't like sex.
Of course, they are from sex.
Judy2004 wrote: We may all admit the fact that people who come from different countries think and behavior in a different way. So before we get to know foreigners, the only way we can obtain an idea about them is from generalizations.Obviously, during the communication with foreigners,if you are equipped with the up-to-date generalizations,you can understand your parter more and feel more comfortable,at the same time, make your parter feel at home.In addition, more information from the generalizations can avoid the misunderstanding ,sometimes even culture conflict to the greatest extent.
I strongly agree with PolsihLady, it's a fact that cultural generalizations are helpful, but you shoud pay attention when talking about a foreign country. "cultural generalization" doesn't mean that EVERYONE in this country is like that or does it. e.g: I would say that british people drink a lot of tea, it's a cultural generalization and I think it's true and it's helpful to know when I go to Britain. But I keep in mind, that not everyone in Britain drinks a lot of tea. We are all different, you can't make a generalization about ALL people.PolishLady wrote:Stereotypes are as old as people I think. "The problem" lies in different culture and mentality. I'm partly writing my MA thesis on this topic and I find it very interesting. Why? Because I'm a Pole and I dislike general opinions about my nation, especially given by the Americans as far as I know :( But isn't it a stereotype either?? I'm not going to tell you I don't like the Americans, contrary, I would like to meet some of them :) And the British? Personally, I think they are very original and interesting. And what about us, Polish girls? We are just different, and so are the girls from Germany, Britain, Russia, Slovakia.... With Polish greetings - Polish Lady (not Makbeth )
I also think that it's helpful to know about different cultures. But I have to strongly disagree with you, sweethuman, because I can only be content with stereotypes and prejudices if they don't effect that people think negatively of different cultures. For example I, as an Austrian, have no problem with foreign people thinking that Austrians wear "Dirndl" and leather trousers all day and everywhere. Because that is nothing that makes the Austrians seem mean or even hazardous. But if I think of the prejudice that the Polish are known for stealing (which isn't true, I know :) ), then I have to say that stereotypes are childish and old-fashioned.sweethuman wrote:Actually it is good to be aware of different cultures and we should always try to implement the similiar points among each other.