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sentences "when"

Postby tp » Wed Oct 27, 2004 5:04 am

Dear Alan

Please help me with these three sentences . are they correct?

1. Mark has the same height as John.
2. Mark is the same height as John.
3. When I rode my bike, my sister drew <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=pictures&v=56">pictures</a> on the road yesterday.

thank you for your help
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Re: sentences "when"

Postby Alan » Thu Oct 28, 2004 9:30 am

tp wrote:Dear Alan

Please help me with these three sentences . are they correct?

1. Mark has the same height as John.
2. Mark is the same height as John.
3. When I rode my bike, my sister drew <a href="http://www.ntsearch.com/search.php?q=pictures&v=56">pictures</a> on the road yesterday.

thank you for your help


#2 is acceptable; #1 is not.
I can't read most of #3!
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Postby tp » Fri Oct 29, 2004 2:01 am

Dear Alan,

thank you for your reply and i wonder if the below sentences are correct or not.

1. I HAVE the same trouble as you.
2. When I rode my bike on the road, my sister drove a car to the park yesterday.

thank you for your prompt reply.
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Postby Alan » Fri Oct 29, 2004 8:07 am

#1 is fine.

#2 is structurally possible, but strange and unnatural: 'yesterday' should be placed earlier in the sentence (e.g. after 'road'), and 'when I rode...' should be changed to 'while I was riding...'.
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Postby tp » Sun Oct 31, 2004 4:24 pm

Dear Alan,

Thank you so much for your explanation for the above sentences, however, I still wonder about the two sentences below;

1. Mark IS the same height as John.
2. I HAVE the same trouble as you.

Why do we use different VERBs for these two sentences???

Thank you in advance for your advice.
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Postby Alan » Mon Nov 01, 2004 6:48 am

We refer to height using 'be', not 'have', because we are originally saying e.g. 'He IS one 1.89m TALL' (with complemental adjective 'tall' premodified by NP 1.89m). So even when using the noun 'height' in place of the measurement phrase, e.g. in 'What height are you?', the verb 'be' continues to be used under the influence of the original sentence.
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Postby tp » Tue Nov 02, 2004 3:02 am

Dear Alan,

I see... thank you very much..

See you later.
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