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Holocaust denier Irving is jailed

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4733820.stm

this is freedom of speech on newdays in the world :idea:
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What's your point?
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LennyeTran wrote:What's your point?
if you read all subject you will know what I mean :wink:
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ahmads wrote:
LennyeTran wrote:What's your point?
if you read all subject you will know what I mean :wink:
You don't think I did? :roll:
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LennyeTran wrote:
ahmads wrote:
LennyeTran wrote:What's your point?
if you read all subject you will know what I mean :wink:
You don't think I did? :roll:
why they judged a person who talked about his opnion ... ???
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ahmads wrote: why they judged a person who talked about his opnion ... ???
He, as a historian, DENIED the fact that people died during Holocaust. Not only that, he made a book about it. Do you think this is just a personal opinion?
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LennyeTran wrote:
ahmads wrote: why they judged a person who talked about his opnion ... ???
He, as a historian, DENIED the fact that people died during Holocaust. Not only that, he made a book about it. Do you think this is just a personal opinion?
no,,
but there were many cases destroied hestory ,,,,,without punishment :?: :?: :idea:
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ahmads wrote: no,,
but there were many cases destroied hestory ,,,,,without punishment :?: :?: :idea:
Such as??????
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Yes Ahmads, sad isn't.
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Well friends,

I think I can understand what Ahmads wanted to say:

A personal opinion is not a FACT, right?
Then a judgment can´t aply a punishment to a conclussion of theories. Laws are for judge facts, not suposissions.
What the writter did is analyse documents about holocaust, and MAYBE in any place he find something that make him think gas chamber never exist, he said that, "I think acording to my analysis that the chamber never exist" and then the bomb explot.
I think is an exageration of the law. The statement of the writter don´t mean that holocaust don´t exist. The proof of holocaust are the survivers. All they are facts.
In this case the book of that writter is only a confirmation that there are hundred, thousands that want to finish with the holocaust story because any political reazon, and that´s the confirmation that the holocaus existed.
In that case what people must to do about the writter is Laugh, poor crazy man, who is going to belive his words,
And that´s all, but judge for an opinion, a suposotion, donesn´t has any utility.
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Hardi wrote:Yes Ahmads, sad isn't.
yes,,it is a very bad bad bad thing .
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LennyeTran wrote:
ahmads wrote: no,,
but there were many cases destroied hestory ,,,,,without punishment :?: :?: :idea:
Such as??????
I think my opinion is not welcome! right?Lady!!
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ahmads wrote: I think my opinion is not welcome! right?Lady!!
Well, you said there are other cases, so tell me about them. Give the information, links, sources, anything that is related to the cases you're mentioning above.
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LennyeTran wrote:
ahmads wrote: I think my opinion is not welcome! right?Lady!!
Well, you said there are other cases, so tell me about them. Give the information, links, sources, anything that is related to the cases you're mentioning above.
lady,I dont give you any thing ,,
Just I want to tell you there are many books in EU and usa
destroy muslims pic ,,,and many books destroy pic of Islam civilzation
when it was in Eu ,and many DRAWING that express all Muslims like beasts ,and many drawing express Muhammad prophet as a torrer ....these all are fredoom of speach .but if some one talked about HO ,,,,got a trial ,after 17 years .. :!:
this is like:
I have principle " no STEALING"
but I don't steal Dixie beacause she is from spain and I steal you beacause you are from Vitnam :!:
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I meant do you guys carry out a principle with some cases ,and anther cases ,,don't carry out :?:
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ahmads wrote:lady,I dont give you any thing ,,
Just I want to tell you there are many books in EU and usa
destroy muslims pic ,,,and many books destroy pic of Islam civilzation
when it was in Eu ,and many DRAWING that express all Muslims like beasts ,and many drawing express Muhammad prophet as a torrer ....these all are fredoom of speach .but if some one talked about HO ,,,,got a trial ,after 17 years .. :!:
this is like:
I have principle " no STEALING"
but I don't steal Dixie beacause she is from spain and I steal you beacause you are from Vitnam :!:
You're still saying things without any source, ahmads. And about that drawing, let me repeat myself again, it's a joke. No one cares about a joke. We know it's insulting, but people are allowed to joke. This guy, on the other hand, wasn't joking. He, as a HISTORIAN, should get the sources correct before printing his book.
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