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Sacrifice liberty for security, ... and get neither !

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:39 pm
by shokin
"Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither !"

That is the sentence that we can see here.
Future American lawyers to be proud of.

Alberto Gonzales spoke before law students at Georgetown Law School today, justifying illegal, unauthorized surveilance of US citizens, but during the course of his speech the students in class did something pretty ballsy and brave. They got up from their seats and turned their backs to him.

To make matters worse for Gonzales, additional students came into the room, wearing black cowls and carrying a simple banner, written on a sheet.

Fortunately for him, it was a brief speech... followed by a panel discussion that basically ripped his argument in half.

And, as one of the people on the panel said,

"When you're a law student, they tell you that if you can't argue the law, argue the facts. They also tell you if you can't argue the facts, argue the law. If you can't argue either, apparently, the solution is to go on a public relations offensive and make it a political issue... to say over and over again "it's lawful", and to think that the American people will somehow come to believe this if we say it often enough.

In light of this, I'm proud of the very civil civil disobedience that was shown here today."
Source : Rense

All is low but law. Nobody is over jus.

Justifying something illegal ! :shock:

In others words Alberto Gonzales is justifying the Big Brothers behaviour.

Students' message is totally right.

Shokin

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:22 am
by MissLT
I don't understand it. :?

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:49 am
by Lalee
LennyeTran wrote:I don't understand it. :?
I was about to read that but after seeing your post..I thought, "if she didn't get it, I won't do it either." Gosh, we're slow. :wink:

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:56 am
by MissLT
Lalee wrote:
LennyeTran wrote:I don't understand it. :?
I was about to read that but after seeing your post..I thought, "if she didn't get it, I won't do it either." Gosh, we're slow. :wink:
:shock: Who's the lazy one now, huh, tell me, huh? :lol: :lol:

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:02 am
by Lalee
I prefer being lazy to slow. :P
And I refuse to read it!

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:07 am
by MissLT
Lalee wrote:I prefer being lazy to slow. :P
And I refuse to read it!
How dare you stabbing a knife in that little boy's heart? Go read the article and tell me that you don't understand it. :lol: :lol:

Re: Sacrifice liberty for security, ... and get neither !

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:33 pm
by CravinFood
In others words Alberto Gonzales is justifying the Big Brothers behaviour.

Students' message is totally right.

Shokin


I think the whole Bush administration is indeed very similar to Big Brother's in George Orowell's 1984. It is so scary what will happen next in the name of security?... It has been three years since we invaded Iraq.... Bush is pro war because he is a corrupt politician and he doesnt care much about what happens to our troops but what about regular Americans that are supporting this war..... 'Hail Big Brother..... He is Watching all of us'....