the world's gone mad

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:40 pm

Yeah, and the Koran says all sort of things, but do you really follow it? Excuse me, cross that question out. It's a stupid question. You must have been since there's been some verbal arguments in the Middle East forum just like in reality.

In reality, they bomb each other in the Middle East. Here, we attack each other with words. In reality, you guys marched demanding to kill the ones who drew some moronic pictures about your prophet. Here, you demanded to kick Danyet out of EC or personally insulted him because he's said something about your prophet you don't like. In reality, what Hitler had done disgust people. Here, some dudes actually think Hitler was not "that bad". Et cetera. How pathetic!

zaman · Post by **zaman** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:14 pm

No, it is no necessary the people will be with you in the same opinion ,
but there is something you can not watch it deflecting and scoffing our ideologies or something hers affair by our religions this is our duty trend our religion and our prophet .
we hate to attack to anyone but if someone attack us or attack in out religion and our ideologies we must defence for our self .

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:28 pm

Don't you see how ridiculous and hypocritical statement it is? You cannot fight others in the name of religion. Even when you're trying to defend yourself about your belief. Your religious belief is your faith. Therefore, you cannot devalue it with nonsensical fights.

zaman · Post by **zaman** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:51 am

No, i can not fight anyone just to selling off or to satisfay my self , but as you know i must fight for my religion because that is imposing and duty to defence for my religion .
and i do not think that will be kind of hypocrite.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:53 pm

zaman wrote:No, i can not fight anyone just to selling off or to satisfay my self , but as you know i must fight for my religion because that is imposing and duty to defence for my religion .
and i do not think that will be kind of hypocrite.

And hence the Middle hasn't been in peace, or this world has gone mad. No, it's not entirely true. It's just some parts of the world has been mad. Anyways, good luck defending your religion since the more you do it, the more it'll make people stick to their opinions about Islam.

zaman · Post by **zaman** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:30 pm

so you must know that i can not imagine myself read anything fleer in my religion and asking from me stand up and watch without any reaction .
because my religion as for me like your opinion towards your country , family , mother, father, my religion as for everything in this life , and i give to it all my priorities to defence for it . anyhow that is my opinion can not any person make me change it .
because we are in at the right line , and others !!!

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:10 pm

I don't care if people insult me in any other aspects (especially religion or patriotism) except my family. I will defend for my family members because of two simply reasons: one, blood is thicker than water; two, no one can come to me and start talking bad about my family out of nowhere. Whatever I have to discuss with someone is my business with that person. My family members are innocent to be insulted. Therefore, I can understand why when people try to defend for their family members, but I do not understand why they would defend for their religion. Not all people share the same faith; hence, what's the need to fight for it? Love for your family, on the other hand, is totally different-- everyone has it in them. Some are just more or less than the others. Love for your family or love in general is more powerful than any religion in any form.

Danyet · Post by **Danyet** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:09 pm

It's the mere source of all disorder in the Middle East

Why? Because it exists? I think you have a serious attitude problem.

fortminor · Post by **fortminor** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:44 pm

I think Israel just want to kill people and women and children without any good reason.
does anybody really know the reason ?

Danyet · Post by **Danyet** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:50 am

fortminor wrote: does anybody really know the reason ?

I do!

Dixie · Post by **Dixie** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:00 am

fortminor wrote:I think Israel just want to kill people and women and children without any good reason.

Excuse me, women and children are NOT people???

zaman · Post by **zaman** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:45 am

danyet
if you really know the reason tell us about it to discuss this with each other.
????????????

zaman · Post by **zaman** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:51 am

The specific reason makes me to defence in my religion and give all my priorities to defence for it, this is because I like my prophet and ALLAH more than my family and myself.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:39 pm

zaman wrote:The specific reason makes me to defence in my religion and give all my priorities to defence for it, this is because I like my prophet and ALLAH more than my family and myself.

What did he do to you? Brought you to this world and raised you since you were a child? Cared for you when you were sick? Got you in college? Gave you the unconditional love? Would die for you if he had to? The answers are no, no, no, no, no, no. To me, it's mindless to see someone choose their religion over family.

Danyet · Post by **Danyet** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 3:47 pm

fortminor wrote:I think Israel just want to kill people and women and children without any good reason.
does anybody really know the reason ?

There are always children killed in war!

Tell me of even one war throughout all history where no children and innocent people were unintentionally killed..

The difference between Israel and Hezbolla is that Hezbolla intentionally has been sending rockets into Israeli cities with the intent on killing civilians to create havoc and terror. They do not seek to destroy military targets, just the people in general.

While Israel sends written warning in advance that they are going to bomb. They drop leaflets and post warning first that tell the people to get away to safety.

Israel is targeting places where Hezbolla keep weapons. Hezbolla keeps weapons in peoples houses. Israel does not.

Hezbolla wants Israeli land. Israel wants none of lebanon.

fortminor · Post by **fortminor** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:22 pm

Ok...let me tell the reason for you:

The story begins since two Israeli soldiers illegally entered farms of south Lebanon, consequently Hezbollah captured them! In Medias (which you have given your reason from) , this was showed and reported without the first sentence (two Israeli soldiers illegally entered farms of south Lebanon) they just told that Hezbollah captured two of them over and over again

Moreover, Israel always claims that he's human-lover, although in several bombards Israel used phosphoric bombs (that are illegal) which is a kind of chemic bomb and has stable influences on people's health till a long time.

In recent meeting of Security Counsel a proclamation against Israel was offered which 10 countries accepted, and just ONE country did not! And I wonder how that “one country” had the power to cancel and Veto it! (USA)

Is it fair that “one country” deny 10 other Ideas?

Is it that promised democracy or equality?

I myself watch BBC, FOX news, CNN, VOA... to compare. None of them has reported phosphoric bombards and so many other cold-blooded acts of Israel! Because it’s against their policy! They have to work hard to hide the truth.

fortminor · Post by **fortminor** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:28 pm

Dixie wrote:
fortminor wrote:I think Israel just want to kill people and women and children without any good reason.
Excuse me, women and children are NOT people???

you're right.i have to delet people. But actually they're defenceless people!

Dixie · Post by **Dixie** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:40 am

fortminor wrote: you're right.i have to delet people. But actually they're defenceless people!

So women cannot defend ourselves? Come here and I will kick your ass! And we'll see who can't defend himself!

How dare you.

fortminor · Post by **fortminor** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:28 am

Dixie wrote:
fortminor wrote: you're right.i have to delet people. But actually they're defenceless people!
So women cannot defend ourselves? Come here and I will kick your ass! And we'll see who can't defend himself! How dare you.

.

Oh.C' mon ... Im also a woman :D I can defend myself maybe.but suppose a mother who's worry about her children to be defended! Aint hard for her to defend herself and her children?

Dixie · Post by **Dixie** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:37 am

fortminor wrote: Oh.C' mon ... Im also a woman :D I can defend myself maybe.but suppose a mother who's worry about her children to be defended! Aint hard for her to defend herself and her children?

Sorry I thought you were another of those sexist guys. But anyway, I think a mother who has to defend her children will be even stronger and get strenght from nowhere! Defending our children is in our blood, I think. Even the weakest one could defeat anyone when it comes to defending our kids.

fortminor · Post by **fortminor** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:42 am

Dixie wrote:
fortminor wrote: Oh.C' mon ... Im also a woman :D I can defend myself maybe.but suppose a mother who's worry about her children to be defended! Aint hard for her to defend herself and her children?
Sorry I thought you were another of those sexist guys. But anyway, I think a mother who has to defend her children will be even stronger and get strenght from nowhere! Defending our children is in our blood, I think. Even the weakest one could defeat anyone when it comes to defending our kids.

Your extremely right,Dixie.My mother always tell me this.I donnu what's that ...maybe when i became a mother ill find out better

but i really feel pity for them...that power cannot do anything when facing some soldiers with gun

Dixie · Post by **Dixie** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:45 am

fortminor wrote: but i really feel pity for them...that power cannot do anything when facing some soldiers with gun

Nobody can do anything against guns...

I wish someday guns and weapons were eradicated from the world... I wish they would just disappear. You'd see how it all would end...

fortminor · Post by **fortminor** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:46 am

me too. But I think its impossible. :(

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:57 pm

Dixie wrote:
fortminor wrote: you're right.i have to delet people. But actually they're defenceless people!
So women cannot defend ourselves? Come here and I will kick your ass! And we'll see who can't defend himself! How dare you.

Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes! Now this is what I'm talking about. Just when I was starting to think you couldn't even break a glass you surprised me with this. Don't show this side of you to Jordi for his own sake.

Dixie · Post by **Dixie** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:44 pm

LennyeTran wrote: Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes! Now this is what I'm talking about. Just when I was starting to think you couldn't even break a glass you surprised me with this. Don't show this side of you to Jordi for his own sake.

He knows this side of mine and always wants me to calm down

He knows I can't stand sexism and other "-isms" that only mean to put differences among people.

zaman · Post by **zaman** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:07 pm

yes all what did you said exit in al-quran . and i have belived ink al-quran my prophet and allah .

Tora · Post by **Tora** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 3:59 pm

I don't know why talking again about religion. :? Israel is attacking Lebanon... still.
I thought that Israel is enough wise not to start a war and I don't know why the whole population, new-born kids are responsible for what some terroristic groups do. I know that not all the country's territory can stay under control of the authorities and blame lebanese and crush their houses - no, I don't think it's right.

I'm more impressed with what is going on in Georgia - russain south neighbour. Georgia - Abkhazia conflict. You know about two new (not very new but still) presidents In Ukraine and Georgia. I can't stand them both - it seems they do their best to make the people and relationship with Russia poorer. I don't care much about the relationship, but I simply don't understand why the government is so merciless to it's people. I don't like mister Saakashvilli speaking English while his nation is going to listen to him and understand georgian. that's weird

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:04 pm

Your post reminds me of something, Tora. If Earth was indeed a reality tv show (like it was in one SouthPark episode), it was a Jerry Springer show.

zaman · Post by **zaman** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 4:50 pm

yes you are right Tora
we must start to talk about the war in lebanon , do you know the reason for israel to that
because it wants to stop all the resistance movements in GAZA and south of lebanon , and I think that is more impossible to stop that .
because it is forget that they are earth in lebanon and GAZA still invader

vince90 · Post by **vince90** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 5:29 pm

Why do we care now since the mess of the Middle East has been lingering for a long time? It never works for both sides when people talk about diplomacy and peace. I am really, sick and tire of it. Forget about it! You can’t help it but just make it worse. Who give a $hit about the Jews, the Palestinians and the others who is involved. Let them do what ever they want. It doesn’t matter anymore.

Life is short, let live and enjoy people!

Danyet · Post by **Danyet** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:20 pm

vince90 wrote:Why do we care now since the mess of the Middle East has been lingering for a long time?

We have to pay attention to this because it affects the entire world.

vince90 · Post by **vince90** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 6:41 pm

I heard you man, but I am running out of patience. I don’t see there is a way out of it and I can’t take it anymore. :(