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Bulgaria pardons freed medics

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Postby Vega » Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:43 am

As far as I know the medics had been extradited to Bulgaria under the pressure of EU, especially France. Sarkozy said that they didn't pay the money to families of the HIV-infected children. They only promised Livia a help in integration to Europe. While they promises, about 50 kids already died..
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Postby Tora » Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:19 am

well, read several reports made by several health organisations and take into consideration that there is another way of discussion to go...

this issue is still being studied, and what exactly caused the epidemic is still left vague to define though the trial already took place

we are of the less informed here and we discuss it from the point of view our media represents it, I don't want to justify the Bulgarian medics, but actually I'm not sure that it was done on purpose but wasn't a tragical coincidence
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Postby Oriani » Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:24 pm

Yes. I agree and you know what? It is not good to believe that much what the Media says. Most of the time they Make up the information!
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Postby Danyet » Sun Jul 29, 2007 6:14 pm

No proof was ever given that the children were intentionally harmed.

There is proof that the Libyan government is corrupt, so why believe them?

There is no big story here about "children"!! Only about innocent health workers finally being freed from wrongful torture and imprisonment.
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Postby Tora » Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:06 pm

In case to avoid leaving the posts not furnished with proof:
world health organisation
the WHO team notes the lack of required supplies and equipment such as sharp container, sterilizer, incinerator, protective gloves, etc. […]

Montagnier/Colizzi 2003
he most important of these, the Final Report of Prof. Luc Montagnier and Prof. Vittorio Colizzi was commissioned by the Libyan Jamahiriya, and arranged through UNESCO. Their report concluded that the infection at the hospital resulted from poor hygiene and reuse of syringes, and that the infections began before the arrival of the nurses and doctor in 1998. Through hospital records, and the DNA sequences of the virus, they traced it to patient n.356 who was admitted 28 times between 1994–97 in Ward B, ISO and Ward A, and theorized that this patient was the probable source of the infection. The first cross-contamination occurred during that patient's 1997 admission.


Final Report of Prof. Luc Montagnier and Prof. Vittorio Colizzi:

Of course the latter personnel may share part of this responsibility, in using or accepting incorrect practices, but it does not mean a deliberate action of poisoning children
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Postby Danyet » Mon Jul 30, 2007 5:01 am

You will want to do better than The Iraqis did. :D
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Postby zaman » Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:22 pm

Did you know that danyet the magnitude of what did you said is not true, we are here in Libya know the whole truth is that the Bulgarian nurses carried out the operation in terms of what and for the people here know the truth, but there is a missing link in the topic. As for the second thing which I would like to ask him for all to read this article, what if the reverse is true. The sense that they are guilty Lipyan nurses accused injection Bulgarians children with the disease triggered what will be the response of that time.
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Postby Danyet » Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:36 pm

zaman wrote:Did you know that danyet the magnitude of what did you said is not true, we are here in Libya know the whole truth


No. You are the one who does not know what is happening. Your country is so bad that you don't even know what is happening in your own country. Wake up man. you have the internet now, so do some research, if you can (though I will assume that many web sites are restricted by your government).

Some of the numerous and serious abuses on the part of the LIBYAN government include poor prison conditions, arbitrary arrest and detention, prisoners held incommunicado, and political prisoners held for many years without charge or trial. The judiciary is controlled by the state, and there is no right to a fair public trial. Libyans do not have the right to change their government. Freedom of speech, press, assembly, association, and religion are restricted. Independent human rights organizations are prohibited. Ethnic and tribal minorities suffer discrimination, and the state continues to restrict the labor rights of foreign workers.

In 2005, the Freedom House rated political rights in Libya as "7" (1 representing the most free and 7 the least free rating), civil liberties as "7" and gave it the freedom rating of "Not Free"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libya

The Bulgarians were not allowed to see their lawyers or even to talk to Bulgarian diplomats during the first year and a half of their arrest, when they were allegedly tortured with beatings and electroshocks. The nurses appeared healthy throughout the trial, and were occasionally seen smiling, but they were subjected to enormous psychological stress, and as a result their health deteriorated and even one of the nurses tried to commit suicide to avoid being tortured
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Postby zaman » Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:54 pm

Hi, we are here know about libya then more any one live outside .I told you by the people of Mecca know anybody. This means such as Arabic language everyone knows his country more than others. And I tell you we are in Libya know our government is corrupt and that there is no space for any person to act freely and I want you to know that political prisoners who speak them are religious, you and for America and many other European countries encouraged their arrest was killed in the massacre in 1996 in Abu Salim Seng America then aware of this role and began a defender of human freedoms and describing Libya as a state that repress freedoms, but what happened after that Libya yielded to Bush and the European leaders blind sight of all these things they are talking about as freedom of the people, etc.. Let's go to the heart of the matter Everyone knows that the Bulgarian nurses were those who injected Libyan children with HIV does not matter that this was a conspiracy orchestrated from the inside or from abroad, but what concerns us, why not retribution whom were retribution from the Libyan citizen in the Lockerbie bombing. Let Palmk you as long as you also Ttadt freedoms prohibited in my country that the majority of people reject the extradition of Bulgarian nurses and especially the families of the victims, but strong on the weak rule of corrupt government created by the families of the victims forced to accept this solution against their will. Why not talk about Libya because we live here, we actually will be the media honest people.
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Postby Danyet » Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:27 am

Well,zaman, if you in your country know so much, then why is your country so backward?
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