LOL To me they do not have any evidence. They just want their share of the delicious cake Dan is tasting :DLennyeTran wrote:It's funny to me how they use those as their evidence.
I can't wait to see the movie!!
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This is what I'm thinking, too. I don't think he wouldn't ask for their permission to use their work as a reference for his book. I mean, the guy should know better since he's a writer. And the wikipedia article said,tikay wrote:A list of referance is no good without permission. All plagerism is...is not having gotten the proper authority from other authors when you use their wording. If he had asked for permission and they refused to give it this may be the problem.
Dixie wrote:I downloaded a documentary about it not long ago. The authors of The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail talked about their book and The Da Vinci Code, and other authors as well. They didn't seem very happy with Brown's novel. I remember one of them talking about the postures of Christ and Mary Magdalene in Da Vinci's "The Last Supper" and saying something like "...which we first pointed out, not Mr. Brown".LennyeTran wrote:I've watched a documentary about the DaVinci code, and they did mention something about the holy blood and the holy grail. That book came way before the da vinci code. That's why they said he's stealing their work. I'll check for this info again.
I don't see what the fuss is all about anyway. I'm going to get The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail so I can figure out. I never thought both books could be compared. The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail is the result of an exhaustive research, whereas Brown's just a fictional novel based on that info.
I guess they also want their share of the cake
LennyeTran wrote:This is what I'm thinking, too. I don't think he wouldn't ask for their permission to use their work as a reference for his book. I mean, the guy should know better since he's a writer. And the wikipedia article said,tikay wrote:A list of referance is no good without permission. All plagerism is...is not having gotten the proper authority from other authors when you use their wording. If he had asked for permission and they refused to give it this may be the problem.
"In the book Brown also mentions Holy Blood, Holy Grail as an acclaimed international bestseller (chapter 60) and claims it as the major contributor to his hypothesis."
He did mention them and gave out the source. I wonder they're going for this case because their permission to him was verbal; therefore, they could say he never actually asked them for their permission? :? :?
LennyeTran wrote:"Michael Baigent and Richard Leigh, authors of "The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail," sued Random House, which also published their book. Random House denies the claim.
Baigent and Leigh claim Brown appropriated their ideas and themes in writing his book, which has sold more than 25 million copies worldwide since its 2003 publication. "
This is from the Yahoo news link that I copied and pasted in page two. So, to me Brown had their permission to use their book as a source. Therefore, their lawyer said,
"Jonathan Rayner James, a lawyer for Baigent and Leigh, said the case did not relate to the theft of specific parts of text but to the appropriation of themes and ideas."Brown copied from 'The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail' and therefore the publication of the resulting novel is an infringement of my clients' copyright," he told the court. "
They're suing him for extending their, as others called, pseudohistory idea about Jesus.
Exactly! And this is the reason why Dixie said they wanted their share of the cake. What a system for ya, people just sue anything that moves. How sad....tikay wrote: Okay now we are getting somewhere!
This is utterly ridiculous! They cant sue for such a thing because they have no monopoly on thoughts.... and on all other histories of such thoughts....the books they studied to get their notions about this? The so called "pseudo" history is not theirs alone...it belongs to every living being, they merely wrote a book on the subject after many had already been written on such things....just look up the subject in amazon.com and you will be led to hundreds of books... for crying out loud! Are they trying to say no one ever thought of the theory before. GOODNESS....they are the fools then. Let them waste their time in court because Dan will just win, and be assured he will win if this is why they are suing. They would have to prove the impossible that no one even considered these things, before their book was written....fat chance there.
LennyeTran wrote:Now I'm just afraid that they would withdraw what they said about Dan not stealing their source, you know. If they said Dan never asked their permission or they never granted theirs, then Dan could be in big trouble. Don't you think? :?
I have this book in English online. If you wanna read it in English, I can send it to your email.ahmads wrote:This is the first time I participate here in this section,,
actualy I don't like reading very much ..from books
I read about history and technology and about biology .
But I want to read this book ,,I have searched for it to buy it in libraries but Don't ask me why??
yesterday I downloaded it from internet ,,Arabic edition ..
I just know the main Idea ... but it is very big .
It will be very nice from youLennyeTran wrote: I have this book in English online. If you wanna read it in English, I can send it to your email.
Okay, the file is already sent.ahmads wrote: It will be very nice from you
My email :*******.com or
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I have one rose for you :D
Thank you ,,I've received it :DLennyeTran wrote:Okay, the file is already sent.ahmads wrote: It will be very nice from you
My email :*******.com or
*******.com
I have one rose for you :D
Thank you Tikey ..It is very nice from you..tikay wrote:I think it is hard to read a book on the computer and it must be hard on the eyes because we spend too much time on the computer already...here in the English clib! I will try to send you the book when my sister is done ...she is haveing
I strongly recommend that you read the novel, Hereiam. It's really, really beautiful. I have read it twice and it's now one of my favorite. You say you're a catholic and I guess a strong believer in religion, but if you've got an open mind you'll have no problem with the book. If you like mystery and adventure you'll get that too.hereiam wrote:I have started to read this plot cause as I can see it is a talk of the world. Both the book and the comming movie as well as court case. You know - I have a point to rethink for people who believe passionatelly that this book MIGHT be real - why don't you believe into the stories about Jesus that are in Bible (for example)?
You can also read online versions of Gospel and these books say quite different things about lot of things you have been writing here according to Dan Brown version (and not only his - what worse - cause he has a court case about copyrights to this book)
I am catholic who probably will never even read this book. Because I don't like sensational books based on religion. I think generally more eveil comes from such books than any use. And I have to say in that place that catholics are very civilised people compared to muslim believers who would give the author of such a book a death sentence and burn some embassays again.
but what I would like to finish with is that it is much harder probably to believe in Gospel than to believe in Dan Brown book.
Becasue simply much easier is to choose shorter way than a longer way - whatever it means.
Thanks for reading,
hereiam
I'm a catholic too but the book doesn't offence me in any way I guess it's a matter of attitude. Now all I wanna do is watch the da vinci code-the movie!!!!!!!Dixie wrote:I strongly recommend that you read the novel, Hereiam. It's really, really beautiful. I have read it twice and it's now one of my favorite. You say you're a catholic and I guess a strong believer in religion, but if you've got an open mind you'll have no problem with the book. If you like mystery and adventure you'll get that too.hereiam wrote:I have started to read this plot cause as I can see it is a talk of the world. Both the book and the comming movie as well as court case. You know - I have a point to rethink for people who believe passionatelly that this book MIGHT be real - why don't you believe into the stories about Jesus that are in Bible (for example)?
You can also read online versions of Gospel and these books say quite different things about lot of things you have been writing here according to Dan Brown version (and not only his - what worse - cause he has a court case about copyrights to this book)
I am catholic who probably will never even read this book. Because I don't like sensational books based on religion. I think generally more eveil comes from such books than any use. And I have to say in that place that catholics are very civilised people compared to muslim believers who would give the author of such a book a death sentence and burn some embassays again.
but what I would like to finish with is that it is much harder probably to believe in Gospel than to believe in Dan Brown book.
Becasue simply much easier is to choose shorter way than a longer way - whatever it means.
Thanks for reading,
hereiam
A friend of mine said the same thing too! I bought the book last year and it's still on my bookshelf. After reading your post, I think I'll clean the dust over it and start reading.Dixie wrote:Oh, we had some threads about the book last year. What can I say? I loved the book. I have read it three times, I own two versions, the "normal" novel version and an illustrated version -quite interesting. Have seen the movie three times although I don't think it's comparable to the book.
I'm sure than once you start reading, you won't be able to stop until you finish! The first time I read it in two days. I couldn't leave it! :DMiss. Ladybird wrote: A friend of mine said the same thing too! I bought the book last year and it's still on my bookshelf. After reading your post, I think I'll clean the dust over it and start reading.