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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:23 pm
by fortminor
feanor wrote:give me a cigarette and leave me alone.. :)
:lol: :lol:

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:34 pm
by Admiral
From Gotthold Ephraim Lessing
http://theliterarylink.com/lessing.html

Zeus and the sheep (1759)

The sheep had to suffer most among all the animals. That's why it went to Zeus and asked to lower his pain.
Zeus seemed to be willed and spoke to the sheep: I see, my pious creature, I have created you too defenceless. So chose how I should solve this problem best. Shall I arm your mouth with horrible teeth or your feet with claws? -
O no, said the sheep, I don't want to have any commonality with the brutal carnivorous anmals.
Or, Zeus proceeded, should I put venom into your saliva?
Ach!, groaned the sheep, the venom snakes are hated very much -
Then, what should I do? I will plant horns on your forehead, and strengh in your neck.
Don't, gracious father, I could easily become as offensive as the buck.
And nevertheless, said Zeus, you must damage others by yourself, if others shouldn't want to damage you.
Oh do I have to!, the sheep sighed. O then let me, gracious father, let me be the same as I am now, because the capability to kill could provoke the desire to damage other animals; and it's better to suffer injustice than to do injustice.
Zeus blessed the pious sheep, and it forgot to complain.

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:42 pm
by Admiral
this is a fable :lol:, so:

Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:13 pm
by Admiral
From Bertolt Brecht (very important guy)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertolt_Brecht

Mesures against Violence (1930)

When Mr Keuner , the thinker, expressed against the violence in a big hall, he saw many people avoiding and going away from him. He looked around him and saw it standing behind him - the Violence.
"What did you say?" asked the violence.
"I expressed against the violence", answered Mr Keuner.
After Mr Keuner had gone away, his students asked him about his backbone. Mr Keuner answered: "I don't have Backbone to break. Just I have to live longer than the violence."
And Mr Keuner told following story:
To the flat of Mr Egge, who has learned to say no, came an Agent one day in the times of illegality. He showed Mr Egge a certification, which has been given to him by the ones who controlled the city, and the certification said that, in which House the Agent went, this house belonged to the Agent; just as every food he demands should belong to him; just as every man he sees should serve him.
The Agent sit on a chair, demanded food, bathed, laid down and asked before he slept, with the face to the wall: "Will you serve me?"
Mr Egge covered him up with a blanket, frightened away the flies, guarded his sleep, and like everyday else he had obeyed him for seven years long. But whatever he did for him, one thing he never told him: that was, to speak a word. After the seven years were over, and after the Agent had become fat because of so much food, sleep and ordering, the Agent died. There Mr Egge wrapped him into a spoiled blanket, dragged him out of the house, cleaned the house, whitewashed the walls, breathed again and answered: "No"

Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 2:07 pm
by fortminor
nice story,Admiral.Thanks