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Internet grocery shopping! What do you think?

Postby Shazzam » Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:48 am

I was in a supermarket the other day and this elderly gentleman approached a store clerk and asked them if:

1. They did home delivery;

and

2. Did they have internet shopping available.

:shock:

Firstly I was astonished at a man well over the age of 60 asking about such technology; and secondly that it existed.

I have seen adds on television for refrigerators that offer the facility for internet shopping (but I have to admit I can't understand how it works).

I am assuming that you can program your fridge to make up a shopping list and e-mail the store and give them that list and then it will be home delivered!

Has anyone else heard of this; or know anyone that uses this system. Absolutely amazing isn't it!

Unfortunately I can see some downsides to this program. Firstly it is a social event going to the shops (especially for older people) and also you have to consider how many errors can be made with one persons shopping list; and their credit card details would have to be made available to complete the purchase.

Interesting though!!

8) :? :shock:
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Postby shokin » Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:00 am

My opinions about buying by internet :

1. Security, safety ? really ? would you give you card numbers ?

2. By internet you cannot hear, see, touch, smell the people (by forum for example). That is the same with products. You have to be sure that the products is really what you want, and ensure yourself about its quality.

3. Totally against if the product is brought at your home door. Sedentarity is bad for health. You are losing your mobility.

4. I usually encouraged the local products, and if the products are local, you can walk to the local shop.

5. Once more, it is one incitation to consuming.

6. Will you become more internet-addicted ?

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Postby Hardi » Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:28 am

Once I bought web hosting service from Internet.. It was so simple and convenient.. better I don't use it more, because else I probably got bankrupt quickly... I mean U can waste all your money so easily and quickly. But I think it's safe. The webstore forwarding me to e-pank where I log in with ID-card and... There is not so big secure risks, even if computer is infected with some keylogers. the bin code is useless without id-card and opposite...

Probably I never don't want buy food from Internet. because "HELL to I can understand in picture, is it eatable or not".
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Postby frengo » Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:57 pm

shokin wrote:My opinions about buying by internet :

1. Security, safety ? really ? would you give you card numbers ?

Really! If they use the right technology (trust me, I am a computer specialist). Furthermore, think about this: if you give your credit card to the human selling you some goods in a shop, how can you be sure he/she is not going to clone it under the counter? Or simply copying the numbers from the paper strip? Actually you can't, and in fact this has happened and continues to happen... so the real question is: "credit card yes or no?" regardless of the use on Internet.

2. By internet you cannot hear, see, touch, smell the people (by forum for example). That is the same with products. You have to be sure that the products is really what you want, and ensure yourself about its quality.

I agree, but just at 50%. Think about buying highly-standardized goods made by a well known brand... no problems in that case.

3. Totally against if the product is brought at your home door. Sedentarity is bad for health. You are losing your mobility.

Too quick, Shokin... I guess you have never been alone in your house, unable to move due to some kind of severe injury, otherwise you would consider differently this aspect! :wink:

4. I usually encouraged the local products, and if the products are local, you can walk to the local shop.

Not all local products are available at the corner of your street. For example, I love some typical italian foods that are not available in my town: I have to order them directly from the region where they are produced... yum! :idea:

5. Once more, it is one incitation to consuming.

I don't think so... this way of buying goods is not pushing on the quantity, IMHO.

6. Will you become more internet-addicted ?

It's just a different way to buy, and in some case the only one for those with particular problems, or for particular products (I buy goods in USA paying less than in Italy, every now and then, includign shipping!). Once again, I must say it's a matter of consciousness: choosing to use an instrument, knowing exactly its points of strength and weakness. This doesn't necessarily mean being slave of it!



Anyway, i will never buy a refrigerator that can order food himself! :D
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Re: Internet shopping; what do you think!

Postby MissLT » Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:42 pm

shazzam1452 wrote: I am assuming that you can program your fridge to make up a shopping list and e-mail the store and give them that list and then it will be home delivered!


Yup! Some grocery stores in the States have home delivery. My boyfriend did it once, and he told me the feeling was funny. Well, the reason he asked for delivery was because he wanted to see how fast they would do it, and they did a pretty amazing job. I think this is for people who work nonstop (yes, I believe there are people like this out there), and/or whatever reason.
Anyway, I still don't think why anyone would wanna order grocery online. To me, it just sounds beyond silly. Kids are getting fat day by day because their parents can't get up their rear-ends to go for grocery shopping :roll: . Fatness is genetic, you know.
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Postby MissLT » Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:48 pm

shokin wrote: My opinions about buying by internet :

1. Security, safety ? really ? would you give you card numbers ?

You can sue the company if your credit card number is being stolen or your privacy information get leaked out. When you buy something online, that service always promise under the law they won't share your information to a third party company. If you don't see that note, don't push yourself to buy it; otherwise, it's your own fault since they didn't promise such thing.

shokin wrote: 2. By internet you cannot hear, see, touch, smell the people (by forum for example). That is the same with products. You have to be sure that the products is really what you want, and ensure yourself about its quality.

You can ask for your money back or sue the company if your food was delivery in bad condition. It's their job to make sure what you get will be in best quality. It's also a part of their company's reputation.

shokin wrote: 3. Totally against if the product is brought at your home door. Sedentarity is bad for health. You are losing your mobility.

This I agree. If you can get the energy to eat, get the energy to go buy food.
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Postby shokin » Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:37 pm

frengo wrote:
shokin wrote:My opinions about buying by internet :

1. Security, safety ? really ? would you give you card numbers ?

Really! If they use the right technology (trust me, I am a computer specialist). Furthermore, think about this: if you give your credit card to the human selling you some goods in a shop, how can you be sure he/she is not going to clone it under the counter? Or simply copying the numbers from the paper strip? Actually you can't, and in fact this has happened and continues to happen... so the real question is: "credit card yes or no?" regardless of the use on Internet.

2. By internet you cannot hear, see, touch, smell the people (by forum for example). That is the same with products. You have to be sure that the products is really what you want, and ensure yourself about its quality.

I agree, but just at 50%. Think about buying highly-standardized goods made by a well known brand... no problems in that case.

3. Totally against if the product is brought at your home door. Sedentarity is bad for health. You are losing your mobility.

Too quick, Shokin... I guess you have never been alone in your house, unable to move due to some kind of severe injury, otherwise you would consider differently this aspect! :wink:

4. I usually encouraged the local products, and if the products are local, you can walk to the local shop.

Not all local products are available at the corner of your street. For example, I love some typical italian foods that are not available in my town: I have to order them directly from the region where they are produced... yum! :idea:

5. Once more, it is one incitation to consuming.

I don't think so... this way of buying goods is not pushing on the quantity, IMHO.

6. Will you become more internet-addicted ?

It's just a different way to buy, and in some case the only one for those with particular problems, or for particular products (I buy goods in USA paying less than in Italy, every now and then, includign shipping!). Once again, I must say it's a matter of consciousness: choosing to use an instrument, knowing exactly its points of strength and weakness. This doesn't necessarily mean being slave of it!



Anyway, i will never buy a refrigerator that can order food himself! :D


Actually I generally avoid to pay by card. I take money at the bank, and pay "cash".

How can you be sure of the quality ? even if the firm is wellknown.

And again I say : if you are mobile, if you can move, you can use your energy, your body, talk to people, what you cannot do by internet. A greater use of internet is a danger for social and human relations.

I suppose that not the majority of people have a restricted mobility. And people with mobility can help people without mobility. Giving this access, this possibility of being given products at home door will encourage mobile people to stay at home, then to become less mobile.

I interprete the "using internet as a solution" as a refuse of human contacts. Either refusing talking or refusing being helped (and helping). Where is solidarity ? under individualismus ?

Aren't you mobile, Frengo ? :mrgreen:

No moving is a factor of obesity, of laziness, of ... vicious circle.

I think about when internet did not exist. People were more self-made. I won't believe that internet is necessary for finding food. A refuse of going out, the law of the "least effort".

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Postby shokin » Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:46 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
shokin wrote: My opinions about buying by internet :

1. Security, safety ? really ? would you give you card numbers ?

You can sue the company if your credit card number is being stolen or your privacy information get leaked out. When you buy something online, that service always promise under the law they won't share your information to a third party company. If you don't see that note, don't push yourself to buy it; otherwise, it's your own fault since they didn't promise such thing.


Since when promise are respected by the liberal ?

LennyeTran wrote:
shokin wrote: 2. By internet you cannot hear, see, touch, smell the people (by forum for example). That is the same with products. You have to be sure that the products is really what you want, and ensure yourself about its quality.

You can ask for your money back or sue the company if your food was delivery in bad condition. It's their job to make sure what you get will be in best quality. It's also a part of their company's reputation.


It is maybe their job, but is it really important for them ?

And if you simply don't like the product (which is even of good quality) ?

Like I said to Frengo, you miss the human contact. And human contact is something that we miss terribly nowadays.

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shokin wrote: 3. Totally against if the product is brought at your home door. Sedentarity is bad for health. You are losing your mobility.

This I agree. If you can get the energy to eat, get the energy to go buy food.


Good ! mobility, sport and good nutrition ! Sedentarity is the worst for health. Solitude is the worst for human contacts.

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Postby Shazzam » Sun Aug 14, 2005 10:40 pm

I love FRENGO'S answer. "I would never buy a refridgerator that can buy food for itself."

It conjures up all sorts of ideas doesn't it! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby MissLT » Sun Aug 14, 2005 11:04 pm

shokin wrote: Since when promise are respected by the liberal ?

I think you have no problem to check this fact yourself, don't you?

shokin wrote: It is maybe their job, but is it really important for them ?

If you think handling out bad quality products, so people would spread words about how you do your service, I don't think you even have a slight theory about business is supposed to be like. Please don't ask such this question to me :roll: .

shokin wrote: And if you simply don't like the product (which is even of good quality) ?

Read your question again, Shokin, I'm asking you. Does it sound anywhere near sensibility? Can you blame on people when you buy the products that you don't like even they're in good condition? If you think you can, I have no word to say. No word :roll: .
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