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Postby senphoi » Sat Dec 23, 2006 3:11 pm

of course, vietnamese people have their bad sides, but the thing they need is education not criticism from books or anything. if our government can change our attitude toward law, it might be better.
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Postby sweetheart » Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:04 am

LennyeTran wrote:Nope, we're not that bad. Our culture is just too conservative, and we need changes. 8)

I agree with you LennyeTran. We need to read that book. If it says right, we will correct ourselves. However, I suppose that it's not good to write that book for foreigner to know our weak points. Vietnamese has an idiom "Vạch áo cho người xem lưng". I don't know to translate into English. :D :D
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Postby senphoi » Sat Jan 06, 2007 3:59 am

oops, i have an absolutely different idea about that book. people might not know who they really are at least they were judged by someone else. the mirror that can reflect who we are clearly is the judgment from others. thats the good way for u to see again what kind of person u are.
its not a bad things to let others know our weaknesses as a wise man never evaluate other personalities just because of some stupid generalization. to know others, u must have closed contact with them, and get to know their life not just sit there and read a book, and then can claim that i know they very well as i know my palm.
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Postby greencat » Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:00 pm

Uhm, i know that idiom, in English it is : "Wash one's dirty linen in public" ^^
In my opinion, reading that kind of book give us a chance to think about ourselves, then see what should be changed. ^^
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Postby MissLT » Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:48 pm

senphoi wrote:its not a bad things to let others know our weaknesses as a wise man never evaluate other personalities just because of some stupid generalization. to know others, u must have closed contact with them, and get to know their life not just sit there and read a book, and then can claim that i know they very well as i know my palm.
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There are some behaviors deepen in our culture that need to be changed, though. For instance, men are not supposed to do the housework. Or you're too uptight if you throw your trash in a trash can in public. Hitting your kid is okay. Being rude to customers is not wrong since customers need your business, not the other way around. Et cetera.

I still haven't read the book yet, but if he does talk about these things, then in my opinion the book is readable and recommended.
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bad habit

Postby rosele » Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:26 am

Hi,
I've heard about this book. For me, I had some experience about this. Let me tell you. When I was in VN, I drove the motorcycle brand name is Wave Alpha which was imported from Thailand at that time and there were very few of them at that time. When I drove it on the street of Ly Thuong Kiet, one gentle man saw me and “hated” me. He did throw out the water from his mouth to my face and said in a bad language “D.M may, cho may bo cai thoi chay xe xin”. Oh god, I did not know what has happened to him? I did not know him and I did not do anything wrong. Another example is I used to wear hat when I was out and drove the motorcycle. If it was a windy day, then I lost my hat. Some days when I did a U-turn to pick up my hat on a street, two young gentle men was driving a Honda and laughing at me: “Your hat was with me, if you wanted it then followed me.” It was a terrible day for me. The hat was not costly and it was not belong to them. Why they took it? These are only the few things I can tell right now.

There are so many things to list about the bad habit of Vietnamese men. I can tell you some:
1) Say bad language when they open their mouth even they are well-educated and live in big cities.
2) Steal things from other people which any reasons. (both genders)
3) Drink too much alcohol and beer without stopping and become a drunker then drive motorcycle very fast.
4) Beat their wives and children with any reasons.
5) Etc…
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Postby greencat » Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:41 am

Rose, what a pity you had to meet such terrible men. But in my opinion, it's too soon too jump to conclusion that those things you mentioned above are Vietnamese bad habits. They are just a few people.

And in other country, you can also find a least one man who is a heavy drunken, or violent husband. And there must be someone who get used to using bad language all the time.

I just want to say that you shouldn't conclue such bad things about vietnamese because those bad ones you met were just the minority. You shouldn't put all the things in the same bag, and supose that they are the same.
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Re: bad habit

Postby vince90 » Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:26 pm

rosele wrote:Hi,
I've heard about this book. For me, I had some experience about this. Let me tell you. When I was in VN, I drove the motorcycle brand name is Wave Alpha which was imported from Thailand at that time and there were very few of them at that time. When I drove it on the street of Ly Thuong Kiet, one gentle man saw me and “hated” me. He did throw out the water from his mouth to my face and said in a bad language “D.M may, cho may bo cai thoi chay xe xin”. Oh god, I did not know what has happened to him? I did not know him and I did not do anything wrong. Another example is I used to wear hat when I was out and drove the motorcycle. If it was a windy day, then I lost my hat. Some days when I did a U-turn to pick up my hat on a street, two young gentle men was driving a Honda and laughing at me: “Your hat was with me, if you wanted it then followed me.” It was a terrible day for me. The hat was not costly and it was not belong to them. Why they took it? These are only the few things I can tell right now.

There are so many things to list about the bad habit of Vietnamese men. I can tell you some:
1) Say bad language when they open their mouth even they are well-educated and live in big cities.
2) Steal things from other people which any reasons. (both genders)
3) Drink too much alcohol and beer without stopping and become a drunker then drive motorcycle very fast.
4) Beat their wives and children with any reasons.
5) Etc…
Rose.


It is not only in VN but you can find these people everywhere.
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I did not mean all of them

Postby rosele » Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:09 pm

Hi Greencat,
sorry, I did not mean all of them. Those I mentioned above are some of these examples I wanted to expess.

Yes, everywhere and every coutry has some bad and some good things to avoid and to learn.

I am now in the US but I am proud I am a Vietnamese. I learned a lot of good things from here too like if I wanted to pass someone I had to say excuse me or if I saw someone around a queue I always asked, “Excuse me, are you in a queue?” Again, here I don’t mean I am a good person.

About the bad things in the US, if you ask me, I am willing to tell you in my opinion.

I found out this forum by chance and wanted to improve my English. I do not want to criticize anyone because it is not my nature.
Thanks for correcting me.
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Re: bad habit

Postby MissLT » Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:22 pm

rosele wrote:Hi,
I've heard about this book. For me, I had some experience about this. Let me tell you. When I was in VN, I drove the motorcycle brand name is Wave Alpha which was imported from Thailand at that time and there were very few of them at that time. When I drove it on the street of Ly Thuong Kiet, one gentle man saw me and “hated” me. He did throw out the water from his mouth to my face and said in a bad language “D.M may, cho may bo cai thoi chay xe xin”.
Rose.

:shock: Are you serious? He spat out an insult and water to your face for driving a brand new car that not many people had it at that time? Unbelievable!
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