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Postby andes » Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:47 am

bambang wrote:"bald ugly old slow man"

:lol: nothing worst than that! bwahahaha...
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Postby Bambang » Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:28 am

andes wrote:
bambang wrote:"bald ugly old slow man"

:lol: nothing worst than that! bwahahaha...



It's me.
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Postby andes » Sat Aug 11, 2007 9:58 am

bambang wrote:
andes wrote:
bambang wrote:"bald ugly old slow man"

:lol: nothing worst than that! bwahahaha...



It's me.

ups.. sorry. unintentional indelicacy :oops:
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Postby Moody » Sat Aug 11, 2007 12:21 pm

If wrong exist, so does the right.
If goodness exist, so does the bad/evil.
If life exist, so does the death.
If creation exists, so does the CREATOR !!!!
If unjustice exist, so does the justice.
You get it here or here after.
And so does the HELL AND HEAVENS !!!!
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Postby Bambang » Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:24 pm

Moody wrote:If wrong exist, so does the right.
If goodness exist, so does the bad/evil.
If life exist, so does the death.
If creation exists, so does the CREATOR !!!!
If unjustice exist, so does the justice.
You get it here or here after.
And so does the HELL AND HEAVENS !!!!


Is somebody with Moody?
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Postby Moody » Wed Aug 15, 2007 6:20 am

bambang wrote:
Moody wrote:
Is somebody with Moody?


I was bit confusing, I'm sorry !
I meant to say that, i believe in hell and heavens. It is about reward and punishment. For example we reward our lives by educating our selves. And punish our selves by staying ignorant or illiterate. Similarly this believe assure us, that in our after life, we will get endless rewards, if we do the good deeds in this short life and endless punishment if we do the bad deeds here. So we should live wisely and shouldn't confuse our minds. Common sense tells that good deeds and bad deeds cannot be treated or rewarded as equal.
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Postby skorpion » Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:23 pm

Moody wrote:If wrong exist, so does the right.
If goodness exist, so does the bad/evil.
If life exist, so does the death.
If creation exists, so does the CREATOR !!!!
If unjustice exist, so does the justice.
You get it here or here after.
And so does the HELL AND HEAVENS !!!!


The creation exists for those who want to believe in a creator; cause and effect. But we can't say that the "creator" exists because the Universe exists.

We don't know -- and probably we never will -- what caused the Universe to exist. We just know that the Big Bang happened, but we don't know what caused it. Some people put "God" as the cause, but that does not prove that "God" exists.

Because of that, and because the concepts of heaven and hell are tied to the existance of God (at least biblically), we can't say that hell exists.
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Postby Bambang » Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:11 am

Uncle Bambang disbelieves in the bigbang theory.
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Postby Moody » Sun Sep 02, 2007 12:18 pm

skorpion wrote:The creation exists for those who want to believe in a creator; cause and effect. But we can't say that the "creator" exists because the Universe exists.

We don't know -- and probably we never will -- what caused the Universe to exist. We just know that the Big Bang happened, but we don't know what caused it. Some people put "God" as the cause, but that does not prove that "God" exists.

Because of that, and because the concepts of heaven and hell are tied to the existance of God (at least biblically), we can't say that hell exists.


I do respect your opinion. Opinions are made upon understanding and certain knowledge, which differ from person to person. For some God is a myth, for some they believe or want to believe according to their religion and for some He is as real as His creation for people like me. Below are few examples in the favor of my belief:

For us Big Bang Theory is not something new, it is more than 1400 years old, revealed in our Holy Book along with more than 1000 other scientific facts which are happened to be established recently in couple of centuries. And the answers of so many confusing questions which keep us going astray throughout our lives. And as a fact we know they were revealed before discovered, make it very easy for us to reach to the conclusion……(simply apply the scientific rule of Probability....What if it is 100% correct...IF YOU KNOW PORBABILITY RULE THEN ITS NOT A JOKE!!)very few examples,

I have created all the creatures from earth and all the living beings are made out of water (Chapter 21) (living being which are meant to die/perish)
Don’t you see the earth and sky was together and I separated them, still you don’t believe
(Chapter 21)
I have created sky upon earth for your protection and there is sign for you
(Chapter 21)
All the stars, moon and sun are floating in their skies
(Chapter 21)
All the skies are holding with out pillars and there is sign for you
(Chapter 21)

For us God means (The One, Ultimate Creator, Who is Uncreated and above time Always present before and after time and beyond our limited level of comprehension)

Below is the TOUCH STONE of God that He revealed in our Holy Book:
1- He is One and Only
2-the Eternal, Absolute;
,the eternally Besought of all! on Whom all depend.
3-He begets not, nor is He begotten.
4-And there is none comparable unto Him.
And none is like Him.
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Re: the hell exists?

Postby sweethuman » Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:44 am

Yes both hell and heaven exists. If there is heaven for doing good deeds so offcourse there is a hell for bad deeds.. We do believe in hell, the hell fire, the hell tortures and the hell punishments. However we dont know where we will go after our first life, hell or heaven? It will be GOD/ALLAH who will decide according to our deeds.
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