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Postby ERPS » Sun Aug 12, 2007 12:56 am

I'm not trying to make anything complicated... believe what you want, but I'm not trying to do so nor cause troubles or anyhting, I don't share your opinion and neither you do share mine, let's leave it at that that's a life fact, I respect what you say thought...

Now, onto another topic, the trouble in this whole american thing, there's a problem in Spanish, it's spreading... have you gone to a "Ropa Americana"? (place were they sell clothing from the US) now, that's a problem... isn't it? I know it's long to say "estadounidense" but it's the right thing...
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Postby MissLT » Sun Aug 12, 2007 6:54 am

Up to you! To me, you seem to like the connection; therefore, you say it that way and then enjoy to call others ignorant.
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Postby Bambang » Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:11 am

LennyeTran wrote:
ERPS wrote:I wouldn't call a person from the US american, I'd rather say they are United States citizens or some other way, even if it doesn't sound good...

Okay, now I see what you're doing. You're making things complicated when it's not necessary. :roll:



I'm in line with dear ERPS.
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Postby ERPS » Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:41 pm

For my own sake and to avoid a ban or a bigger discussion... And I have never called anyone "ignorant"

@Bambang... You mean that you agree with me? You probably are able to understand my point right?
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Postby Bambang » Tue Aug 14, 2007 3:52 am

ERPS wrote:For my own sake and to avoid a ban or a bigger discussion... And I have never called anyone "ignorant"

@Bambang... You mean that you agree with me? You probably are able to understand my point right?


Most Indonesians have the same perception as yours.
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Postby ERPS » Tue Aug 14, 2007 5:06 pm

Of course, they are probably able to see things the way they really are
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Postby Elba » Wed Aug 15, 2007 12:29 am

ERPS wrote:For my own sake and to avoid a ban or a bigger discussion... And I have never called anyone "ignorant"


Dear friend, don´t worry about it. More than 10 people in this forum understand what you mean with the bad ubication of the word "american".
In good spanish to say "american" to clothes, pets, or whatever from USA is a sinonim of bad quality because all this productos are from China, Hong Kong, etc. The countries of the Asia-Pacifi Treat. They are not really produce at USA.

About the word you never say "Ignorant", don´t pay attention in that and you should not be worry. All here know how Lenny express her thougtness and how she likes to complicate the discussions.
See her answer to this reply. :wink:
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Postby Bambang » Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:55 pm

Elba wrote:
ERPS wrote:For my own sake and to avoid a ban or a bigger discussion... And I have never called anyone "ignorant"


Dear friend, don´t worry about it. More than 10 people in this forum understand what you mean with the bad ubication of the word "american".
In good spanish to say "american" to clothes, pets, or whatever from USA is a sinonim of bad quality because all this productos are from China, Hong Kong, etc. The countries of the Asia-Pacifi Treat. They are not really produce at USA.

About the word you never say "Ignorant", don´t pay attention in that and you should not be worry. All here know how Lenny express her thougtness and how she likes to complicate the discussions.
See her answer to this reply. :wink:



So, i'm just curious, What do you mean by saying "to complicate the discussion"?

Did she?
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Postby Cypress » Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:54 pm

My English dictionary says:
American (noun) someone from the US
American (adjective) relating to or coming from the US

ERPS, I understand your point. Yet, it is the way it is, and there is not much you can do about it. There is one thing you can do, however. You can contact the institutuition responsible for regulating the English language and persuade them to change it. I don’t know the name of this institution, but you can find out. You know, like the Royal Spanish Academy in Madrid is regulating the Spanish language, there is got to be some kind of institution regulating English. If this issue really bothers you, find out about this institution and write them a letter.
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Postby ERPS » Thu Aug 16, 2007 2:45 am

I've searched about that, and it seems as it doesn't exist at all... if you check about that, you'll notice that most dictionaries came from Universities, that's why it is hard to get any real changes, besides, they feel so proud in the US of being called americans so they won't listen. My concerns are mainly what this type of wrong word usage does to Spanish (not that the whole english part of this is secondary) ... you see latin news and already they use American to refer to the US citizens, meaning, we're practically surrendering our right as Americans too...
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