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Who is responsible for motivating students?

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Postby crystalfrogw » Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:31 pm

people ofen say when studying a learner is a kind of inner cause and the teacher is aknd of exteral cause. exteral cause is decided by inner cause. that it to say they believe a student should motivate him/hersekf first, but just like a seed if it is put aside insted of burry it into soild or be watered, it won't sprouting forever.
a learn is just like the seed and the teacher is the one who helps the seed sprout.
So in this sence teacher is crucial in learning....
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Postby ngphuongtu » Sat May 05, 2007 7:27 am

I think the students themselves and their classmates are two first motivations.

The students innitially must have a good sense of studying as well as set themselves dreams and ambitions for their future. Then students will try their best to obtain them.
There's no class in which all students are equally shrewd or clever. That creates rivalry. Feeling that they are inferior, students will have an inspiration to 'overtake' their friends, which is a stimulus for their studying. Moreover, during that 'contest', they can be good fellows who are ready to help each other advance.
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Postby Bambang » Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:44 pm

It's the responsibility of all stakeholders. The students themselves, teachers, family, environment, government and education institutions should be responsible for this. The learning-teaching process would only be effective if all parties participated actively in building a healthy atmosphere to the process. But sadly, it seems that the responsibility is always put on the teacher's shoulder.

Usually, if a student fails something then people will blame it on the teacher. What an injustice!!! On the other hand, if a student passes the class or very good at something, then the parents will usually say "My child is indeed smart". It seems that the smartness of the student is something purely inherited from their parents. There's no teachers factor in this success. What an injustice!!! What a partial!!! :evil:

ngphuongtu wrote:There's no class in which all students are equally shrewd or clever. That creates rivalry. Feeling that they are inferior, students will have an inspiration to 'overtake' their friends, which is a stimulus for their studying. Moreover, during that 'contest', they can be good fellows who are ready to help each other advance.


My friend, one of the latest issues in the education system is how to get the students to compete with themselves instead of getting the students to compete to their classmates. I can not elaborate any further on this because this is not a suitable post to talk about it. I'll elaborate this if there is a special topic on the education system. However, my point is do not always compare one student to another as don't compare one child to another. Because everybody is unique.

wllsp wrote:So, the process of education must be interesting and lessons must be entertaining. Therefore teachers are responsible for motivating and encouraging their young students.


I agree with you in some points. The process of education must be interesting. That's why teachers must be creative in delivering the lessons. But again my friend, Teachers is just one factor in the learning-teaching process. It will never work if other parties including the students themselves do not support this. So my friend, the teachers' shoulders are too weak to hold all the overloaded stuff. Let's avoid putting teachers as the scapegoat.

wllsp wrote:I think that the teacher's role is very important, but many things depend on family and a system of education.


My friend, I am absolutely in line with you on this. Is anybody else with us?
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Postby nightwish » Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:09 am

first of all it depends on the student himself/herself. the teacher's job is just to pass the materials in a good way to prepare the students for what will come next and to encourge them, but at the end it all depends on the students.

so that is my opinion :!:
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whose fault is it to teach a pig to dance? the pig?

Postby jeffatbohui » Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:23 am

Dixie wrote:
Archer wrote:There is a old saying that still holds true.. never try to teach a pig to dance.. it annoys the pig, and wastes the teachers time.


:lol: Brilliant!


Whose fault is it to teach a pig to dance, the pig or the teacher? I think the teacher is ridiculous to teach a pig to dance. It only means the teacher doesn't know how to choose appropriate contents to teach for the pig. An ancient philosopher in China told us 3000 years ago that teachers should teach students according to their needs and abilities. There are always differences between students. Some students are good at learning knowledge at classrooms. Some students are good at showing skills in solving practical problems. Maybe some students aren’t interested in learning in classrooms, that doesn’t mean these students have incapability in learning. A good teacher always tries to guide students to understand themselves and encourage students to fulfill their aims.
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Re: whose fault is it to teach a pig to dance? the pig?

Postby Bambang » Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:39 am

Dear jeffatbohui

Supernaturally speaking, you don't like teaching pigs. You are not an animal teacher. You are not a philosopher because you like quoting old sayings from someone else.

Psychologically speaking, you are not ridiculous. You are a creative person. You know how to select something appropriately.

Universally speaking, you are right saying that every student is different from another.

Yeah, every body is unique.
Every student is unique.
So, different student, different approach.

Psychological analyzing, you know how to be a good teacher dude.
Keep teaching dear.
You are a potential teacher.
Long live teachers.
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Postby Krisi » Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:49 pm

:) :arrow:
The interest of the student will always depend on the teacher.
Who would like to sit in a class with a yawning teacher in front.
Each student is different from the other and the teacher should be able to embrace them all. And I think more attention should be given to those whom they can't motivate easily. Besides, isn't it more rewarding to see greater improvement in the future.
Students can be compared to a plant if you take good care of it you'll see it flourish and yield good harvest.
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Re: Who is responsible for motivating students?

Postby skorpion » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:42 pm

TalkingPoint wrote:Is the teacher responsible for motivating students to study? Or is it each student's own responsibility to be interested in learning?

What do YOU think?


I think you're missing the most important people to a student: their parents. Everything starts at home.

Of what use is the motivation given by teachers when the student does not feel emotionally motivated within his/her own family group?
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Postby norhan » Thu Aug 30, 2007 8:30 pm

yes sometimes it's the teacher's responsibility.because motivate is not only giving sweets and gifts. smiling is a very good way for motivating.saying thank u is a motivation .and other words like "perfect_very good_wow_.......etc"
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Re: Who is responsible for motivating students?

Postby wyne » Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:58 am

TalkingPoint wrote:Is the teacher responsible for motivating students to study? Or is it each student's own responsibility to be interested in learning?

What do YOU think?

I think both. The teacher ought to make her or his greatest efforts to help the students, try to arouse their interests in study. For example, give them a praise for their every progress and no matter how small it is.
On the other hand, as a sudent, you must be responsible for youself. There is no one who can help you all the life. You have to learn to do your own things independently, like study and work.
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