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Post by Mohsen » Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:23 am

Hi Behnam,

The educational system and measuring organization and professors can't measure the intellectuals and talented minds.
Remember that Albert Einstein expelled and refused admittance to Zurich Polytechnic School.
How his teacher described Albert Einstein "mentally slow, unsociable and adrift forever in his foolish dreams." .....the University of Bern turned down his Ph.D. dissertation as being irrelevant and fanciful.
Believe yourself and never give up to be a farmer , plan your exam as a physic student and study as much as you can

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Post by Mohsen » Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:42 am

See you next time if you reply my post I will be happy.Hold it in your mind your each response will give me courage to share my experience....
Hi grincas,
I had a virtual tour to the north of Kahta in Adıyaman province and visit the mount Nemrut. My tour was as done via google map and image . I enjoyed visiting this place ,there are several statues heads were on the mountain slop ,the beautiful area and sceneries.
It is near to Iran and one day I will visit there .I hope the statues won't be disappeared since the rain and snow destroy the statues. The appearance of statues show that they are wearing out

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Post by Mohsen » Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:34 am

Hi friends,

It is less than 11 days to the new year in Iran, at this time of the year people have no time and very body is in hurry,many things should be done , the house should be cleaned before the new year , washing the house and furniture , going to shops and buying new clothes and shoes, the markets are crowded, and shopkeepers are advertising their products ,the tumult of shots and yell could be heard everywhere. It is a good time for selling flowers and plants , All people buy flowers and plant, the fresh smell of gillyflower cover everywhere.The refrigerator and freezers should be filled by meats and food stuff , there is a long row of people who stay in famous confectionery shops.There are special new year mall who sell cheaper fruits and meats, but they sell the fruits in the box ,not less than 10 kgs.
There will be a big holiday ,schools and teachers 15 days off, official employees 5 days and many of them extend it to two weeks .
Many people have a plan to travel by own cars ,also all of tickets are being booked, They check up the car engine before the trip ,so the engine repair shops are very crowded too.
For some people the new year holiday is terrible, people who can't tolerate the commotion of market.
Till now I have been invited for taking part in two parties during the holiday ,these parties certainly will be added and If I want to release from parties ,I should escape to a trip .


all the best,
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Thanks!

Post by behnam » Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:25 am

Hi Mohsen,

Thanks a million for your friendly reply. To be honest Mohsen, it is really annoying as well as shocking( Man vaghean hers mikhoram) to see something different from what it is publicly expected. For example, at a wedding, you expect to see people dancing, eating,etc. showing their happiness. What would happen if you go to a wedding party and saw people are all crying? You might ask for the reason, what would you do if you found out that they are crying for someone who has passed away one year ago? For human beings, crying is a normal way to show sad feelings, but it must be done in proper situations.

In a PhD exam, the students expect to see questions relevant to the subjects which were covered by professors at universities. However, the majority of them were irrelevant.

Anyway, I disliked the format of PhD exam.

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I Love Adiyaman!

Post by behnam » Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:39 am

Hi Grincas,

Many thanks for writing about the city you are living in. Using Google, Adiyaman seems to be a very beautiful city. I love ADIYAMAN. For me, it means a lot. I understand the name: 'Adi' means 'it's name' and 'Yaman' means 'bad', but in some cases it is sued by the opposite meaning. Therefore, I guess it means 'Yaxchi'(good). Sometimes we say, 'Chox Yaman ghizdi'! It means she is positively extraordinary. Therefore, it may mean "the pace where its name is famous for goodness"! Anyway, I love your city and its people. Would you mind giving some explanation about the meaning of "Adiyaman' and tell us why it is named like that?

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Post by Amoure » Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:53 pm

Dear Dr.Behnam(In my opinion forever)
When you said “According to the result, the farmer knows Physics! Don't take this as a joke, unbelievably, it happens in our society!” You are exactly right. I always see fatuous people that have postdoctoral! But when they must diagnose a disease, are unable, here is where that differences are obvious and society will reject them immediately!
Your basic problem is just slow in operations!!! YOU are careful , but not fast. {-; You must act quickly like me! :lol:
Physique=Velocity, Delicacy and Tranquility
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Post by Elham » Sun Mar 10, 2013 6:19 pm

Dear Behnam,

Oh dear, I do understand your feelings right now. When sth is not what it's expected to be, what it MUST be.... ohhhhhhh.... it makes us very angry. I know what you mean.( Mano dar ehsasetun sharik bedunid) :-(

Seems there's no any other choice but to accept the bitter fact, when we can't do anything about it, although it's very hard to get along with. Please try not to think about it. As Arab people say " favaghaa ma vaghaa!".

You know what I'm thinking about? About loooooooooots of other things that are Just the same in today's world!What percent of things are the way they're supposed to be? Ohhhh, even worse, how many of us people are the way our creator has created us to be? How should he feel then?!!! :-(

You can just do one thing dear, to accept it and its result.... anddd... one other thing.... ohhh, I see professor Behnam who is making questions for PhD exam, and wowwwwww, how wisely he's doing it;he just knows what exactly is meant to be questioned and does his job perfectly cause he's a great Physics man :-D
In the hope of that day, let's accept and forget Friday's terrible exam. :-)

please smile :-)

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Post by WiLZiN » Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:24 pm

My dear brother Behnam...

I'm so sorry for your exam. :-(
You will pass it next time "en sha'a Allah إن شاء الله".
As Allah said in the holy Quraan :"وبشّر الصابرين"
"فإن مع العسر يسرا إن مع العسر يسرا" You know them. ;-)
You have a phd in friendship and we are proud of you. :-D

Have nice days...
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Post by grincas » Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:19 pm

Hi dear Mohsen and Behnam and all, Happy to see your responses, Firstly I want to explain my city' s name,which is Adıyaman
Dear Behnam you made me laugh {-: Adı means name, Yaman means inexorable that s to say Adıyaman =inexorable name :-D
Mohsen if you come to visit here, your friend Grincas ready to welcome you
If you want to watch rising of the sun too, you have to climb there early in the mornings.Also, you have to wear thick clothes ,otherwise you might be cold on the Mount Nemrut .Believe me, even in August...

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Post by helkady » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:42 pm

Dear my friend
I feel you! Since you did your best the result doesn’t matter {-: , four sure God keep something better for you ,so don’t look behind you and keep going .

I would like to thank you and our friends here for pushing me to write and sharing their experience with me .

Behnam I start using your advice specially that about using English to English Dictionary it takes time but really helped me a lot . is this Email address still working behnamyou@yahoo.com ?

Waiting for your reply

All the best for you all

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Post by behnam » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:35 am

Hi Grincas,

Thank you very much for following the thread; reading posts and writing regularly.

Your city is beautiful. I love it.I wish I could visit "ADIYAMAN" and have a walk with Grincas in it. I wish I could go climbing in Nemrut Mountain to enjoy its natural beauty as well as the sunrise.

Due to refraction of light in the atmosphere, on high mountains, the sun is seen some minutes earlier. What we see in the morning up mountains is a virtual sun(an image) which is reddish and bigger than the real one in size. We can look at it directly, it won't damage your eyes! Have you ever gone to Nemrut mountain? How much is the distance from Iran? I guess it is so close to Iran.

I hope to read more from you.

All the best,
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Post by behnam » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:50 am

Hi Helkady,

Thank you for your sympathy. Yes, it doesn't matter. I should forget it and make plan for the future(next exam).

Use an English-To-English dictionary all the time, and read the sample sentences. Pay attention to the patters and structures. By doing so, you will make good progress in writing. Never translate your Arabic sentences(dialogs) into English. In many cases, word-for-word translation doesn't work.

I've got two Yahoo active accounts: behrampednam@yahoo.com and yourbehnam@yahoo.com The first one is used for sending and receiving emails. The second one is used for chatting. In the past, I had different chatting account. I forgot its password, so I had to create another one.

For chatting or sharing file, you can add my accounts into your contact list.

All the best,
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Post by mortaza » Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:07 pm

Dear Behnam,

How are you my friend? I hope you are fine. How are your children? How old are they now? (I'm sorry, I don't remember when they were born!) How is the life after having babies?

I should say that I am very grateful for having a good wife and two children. Some of my friends are not married yet; I strongly recommend them to marry as soon as possible! Some of my friends and colleagues are married but don't have any child yet; I strongly recommend them to plan for having a child! And some of my friends do have a child; I strongly recommend them to plan for another!

Sometime, I ask my wife's opinion about a third child! She simply says that she is too tired to give birth to another child and take care of it! She is right; living in a small city far from your relatives and taking care of two little children is exhausting, isn't it?

My aim for writing this post is not to talk about having or not having children! I read your recent posts and learned that you are not satisfy with your PhD exam. I want to talk a little about this topic.

In my opinion, that the government (ministry of science,...) is the one in charge for executing the PhD exam is wrong. The government may fail to get a professional team of university professors for designing the exam. As a result, as you already said, the exam they design may not seem standard!

Moreover, the PhD exam should not be 4Gozine-yee only [I'm sorry, I don't know the English term]. The PhD exam must contain descriptive [Tashrihee] problems also. In Mathematics or Physics, when you solve a problem [or answer a question], even partially, the examiner should realize how you think and manage the problem. It is important also that the examiner see the way you write down the answer explicitly. Considering all these factors together, the examiner can come to a conclusion about your score in the exam.

When I took the exam, in 1381, each university had its own PhD exam. In that time, there was not a certain date for the exam. For example, the exam for Tehran university was in 20th Esfand while the exam for Kerman university was in 10th Ordybehesht next year!! All exams contained descriptive questions only [at least for Mathematics]. There were many advantageous and disadvantageous over this kind of exams. One of its disadvantageous was that there was no a consistency in the level of the exams in different universities. Each university emphasized on a particular subject. To become successful in passing the PhD exam in a certain university, you should have known which textbooks they had studied in their classes etc.

Let me finish here. I am looking forward to hear from you soon.

Best regards,
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Hi Moroo speaking

Post by Moroo » Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:40 am

Ohh Hi my friends

I miss you, I read some of your past posts ,I feel I know many of you for a long time and this is strange for me.

Writing takes me a long time ,first to choose the words then to check the grammar and then to check what word is appropriate.

I don’t know is it ok or not .

Anyway, I’m male ,43 years old ,I love English movies so much , but I don’t have free time to watch , because I’m the kind of men who take care of his family , share with his wife everything , I think the man who have that personality called “Family Man”.

Oooh this name reminds me about the movie that make me married my wife, It’s a long story but I will try to tell you.

For all my life I don’t like the idea of marriage, ten years ago I met my wife for the first time ,what attracted me most to her was her beauty and intelligence, we started the relation as a friends day by day I felt that I love her :-P but I didn’t tell her because I was not thinking of marriage although I’m sure I will not find a girl can understand me like her ,we love the same things , we hate the same things .

during this period many men proposed to her but she was always refused , finally I told her you should marry the best proposal ,I astonished when she asked me “what about you" ?

I told her you know I’m not thinking of marriage at all, so please go ahead; you are wasting your time with me .

Finally she gets engaged :cry:

I found myself lost without her and depressed and I realized that I’m nothing without her but I didn’t call her .

One day, accidently I saw a movie called “The Family Man” for “Nicolas Cage” ,this movie is about a very rich man how have everything but he is not married and he is very happy person ,till he met a man who has a kind of power .

by some kind of magic he turned “cage” to a married man who has some money and beautiful wife and two babes :-D

I’ll not tell you the rest of the movie you have to watch it by yourself, but this movie makes me marry my wife ,this movie turned my life upside down {-:

Now thanks God I’m really happy :-D with my beautiful wife and my beautiful babes .

Please I’m waiting for your comments :roll:

Dear Behnam ,Can you please send me 'Grammar in use', and 'Collocations in use' in PDF :oops:

Thank you in advance for your cooperation ;-) ;-) ;-)

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Post by behnam » Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:30 am

Hi Mortaza,

Welcome back to your own home! Thank you very much for your friendly post. It really made me happy.

Oh my God! A lot of recommendations for different people! Thank you very much indeed.

I do agree with you about PhD exam. It must be descriptive. Well, there are some advantages and disadvantages. Descriptive testing method has some advantages for talented students, but correcting is difficult for authorities. I personally prefer descriptive testing method to others.

I am waiting for the result. I am not disappointed at all.The exam was terrible. I don't say it was difficult, it was terrible. Not standard. If I had time I could solve all the questions. Therefore, it wasn't difficult for me. However, I couldn't manage the time. I was busy with solving questions, without wasting the time, but I couldn't even see some questions. I lost the questions of one module(subject) completely! }: }: }: How terrible!

I hope to hear more from you.

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Post by Moroo » Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:39 pm

Hi my friends {-:
I really miss you all.

I had a problem using the thread; I keep getting an error message when I try to log, I think now the thread is working well.

These days every day before I sleep I read an E-story using a website. In fact it's story for children :oops: I'm trying to keep in touch with English, If anybody recommend websites for reading stories and/or a good story for Intermediate level please tell me, I will be appreciated.

I just know that my daughter has Chickenpox and she cannot go to school for two weeks, the problem is she has exams next week as well she is not allowed to live the house for two weeks, we are afraid his brother get infected.
Anyway we hope she will get well soon .

All the best

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Post by Moroo » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:41 am

Dear my friend Behnam :-P

Thank you very much for sending me these eBooks, I really appreciate your concern.

It's rare these days to find a helpful person like you .

These books will help me a lot to improve my English language .

Tanks a million

All the best
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Post by Mohsen » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:38 pm


Hi Moroo,

I hope you are fine and doing well , I am sorry for you child ,but be pateint and care the child ,the health will be recovered very soon ,I hope. there are some advices I read it which help you to avoid Chickenpox.How to Avoid Getting Chicken Pox While Helping an Infected Person
1- Avoid touching any of the pox marks until they are crusted over. Until they crust over, they continue to shed the virus.

2-Avoid intimate contact such as kissing. The virus is also shed via the respiratory system.
3-Keep the infected person's eating utensils and drinking glass separate.
4-Turn your head if he or she coughs or sneezes.
5-Practice good hand washing. Wash your hands every time you handle any of the sick person's things.
6- Use an air purifier, which helps filter bacteria and viruses out of the air.
7- Wash bed linens and recently worn clothes in hot, soapy water.
8- Keep yourself healthy. Get sufficient sleep. Eat nutritious food. Take a high-potency multivitamin.
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Incomplete Story!

Post by behnam » Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:37 am

Hi Moroo,

Thank you for joining us and posting nice posts. I read your love story carefully, but I could not keep track of it! Some important part of the story is unclear! I am happy that you have a beautiful wife and two beautiful children. I also enjoyed reading your love story, but you have not said how could you marry to an engaged girl? Did you want her to get divorced? How could you convince her fiance to agree with divorce?

Unwillingly, you have fallen into a trap! Give me some criteria for measuring the beauty of a lady! Well, you have done it perfectly, since you have chosen a beautiful lady to marry to, as you have said! {-: {-: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh my God! Behnam, stop playing joke on an Arab man, he may draw his sword and kill you! :lol: :lol: {-: {-: {-:

All the best,
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Post by Moroo » Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:36 pm

Hi my friend Mohsen

Thanks a lot for your interest {-: I printed out your advice and I gave it to my wife to follow it.
Although she took the vaccine two times, she get slight infected.

She is sad :cry: because we told her she can't go out to prevent anyone to get infected and also we will separated her from the 9 months baby.
It's hard for her because she loves him so much , We told her that this procedure will be for two weeks only.

Anyway thanks God this will last only for two weeks.

Thank you again
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Post by Mohsen » Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:17 pm

Hi Moroo,
I think all children are affected by Chicken pox ,and they can bear it easier than older. It is like another disease called jaundice . Many children are infected by jaundice at the first days of life and most parents fear to see that their child got jaundice .
I went to my brother 'house last week to visit his new born baby , his child was in special glass chamber to be exposed by florescent light for three days.
I told my brother's wife not to be worry , this is not a dangerous , she will be recovered very soon .
This is a fact that the human worries are endless unless when he entrusts all of unwanted events to God.
I prepared a piece of gold and a bunch of flowers as a gift to the baby ,and my wife offered them to the babies'mother.
What is the custom in your country for visiting a new born baby?
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Post by behnam » Tue Mar 19, 2013 4:37 pm

Hi Moroo,

It is sad to hear that your kid does not feel well. I wish her an early recovery.

All the best,
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Post by naseh » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:47 pm

Hellloooooo,
It is me, Naseh, the eldest friend of this thread.

Please I wanna a big welcome for my friend who join this thread. He is from Yemen too.

Therefore, I forget to hello you all, all of you, old memebers and the new. I have been following you from out side.

Yours,
Naseh of Yemen.

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Post by Moroo » Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:54 am

Hi my friend Behnam

Thank you so much for asking about my daughter, en shaa allah she will be fine :-D

In respect of my story , Ooooooh don't get me wrong. She didn't get formal engagement, she only saw this person for not more than two weeks, and even he doesn't saw her father. And do you know after we get married she told me that she wasn't attracted to him, but she did that to make me feel how important is she :evil:

Hope now it's clear for all :?:

In respect of my criteria of measuring the beauty, in my opinion the inside beauty is much more important than the outside beauty. I described my wife as beautiful for the following reasons : First: she loves me so much. Second :She knows about me more than me even if I make tea I asked her how much sugar that I need :lol:

Third :??????????? :~:

Wish you all the happiness and love.
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Post by naseh » Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:16 pm

Hello members of this thread,

How is life with you?, one by one, then a special ask to Behnam, Mohsen, Amal, and Elham. How are you my old friends? I am sooooooo happy to join you again. And hope other friends would forgive me if I forget their names..Also, a warm welcome to the new memebers who have joined.

I can't tell what had happened to me to stop joining you and just satisfied by following you. let's call it a technical error.

Yours,
Naseh

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Post by Elham » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:03 pm

And finallyyyyyyyyy

******* SPRING is here ***********

My beautiful, wonderful, majestic, glorious, breathtaking, uplifting, happy, magnificent, colorful, tasteful, sweet, favorable, melodious, lovely spring! :-D :-D :-D

Huraaaaaaaaaaa :-D :-) :-D

Oh my dear friends, do you smell the bride of seasons, spring? She's here again with its all fantastic features. I am so happy, I love spring and whatever it brings; playful blossoms, lovely pleasant weather,wonderful rain, that energetic green color... wowwwwwwww, it brings a whole new life!

I'm here to congratulate you the spring and wish a very happy new year for my Iranian friends. I wish you all health, happiness and calmness.

Love,
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Post by Elham » Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:11 pm

Hi dear Moroo, the family man {-;

How are you? Hope your little lovely girl is better. I've read all of your posts and I like your intimacy and friendly writings.

Let me congratulate you on your beautiful wife! The woman who loves you so much and cares about you. For sure she's a gift from god to you. Emmmm, actually all women are special gift of god to the world! {-; :lol:

I'm very happy to hear you enjoy her presence and I'm sure it goes for her too. I wish this beautiful love goes on for ever this way. :-)

Hope to hear more from you,

All the best,
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Happy New Year!

Post by behnam » Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:18 pm

Dear Iranian friends, and people who celebrate the first day of spring,

Happy New Year to you and to your family. I hope this year will bring you more happiness, success, calmness, peace of mind, and prosperity.

All the best,
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More Explanation Please!

Post by behnam » Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:37 pm

Hi Moroo,

Thank you for your kind reply. Storynory is a site that provides stories for children. You can download the audio files as well as the scripts. Go to Google and write 'Storynory+story' in the searching box. You will find it useful. I hope so.

Dear Moroo, you are still in the trap! What do you mean by 'inside and outside' beauty'? How do you know that your wife loves you so much? This can be an extremely important question, since its answer provides men with some handy criteria for measuring wives' love for their husbands. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Finally, you haven't made the third reason clear! What's that? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hope to hear from you soon.

All the best,
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Post by behnam » Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:03 pm

A friend has emailed me the following text. It can be useful in terms of English practising and knowledge gaining.

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Improving your body language can make a big difference in your people skills, attractiveness and general mood.

There is no specific advice on how to use your body language. What you do might be interpreted in several ways, depending on the setting and who you are talking to. You'll probably want to use your body language differently when talking to your boss compared to when you talk to a girl/guy you're interested in. These are some common interpretations of body language and often more effective ways to communicate with your body.

First, to change your body language you must be aware of your body language. Notice how you sit, how you stand, how you use you hands and legs, what you do while talking to someone.

You might want to practice in front of a mirror. Yeah, it might seem silly but no one is watching you. This will give you good feedback on how you look to other people and give you an opportunity to practise a bit before going out into the world.

Another tip is to close your eyes and visualize how you would stand and sit to feel confident, open and relaxed or whatever you want to communicate. See yourself move like that version of yourself. Then try it out.

You might also want observe friends, role models, movie stars or other people you think has good body language. Observe what they do and you don't. Take bits and pieces you like from different people. Try using what you can learn from them.

Some of these tips might seem like you are faking something. But fake it til you make it is a useful way to learn something new. And remember, feelings work backwards too. If you smile a bit more you will feel happier. If you sit up straight you will feel more energetic and in control. If you slow down your movements you'll feel calmer. Your feelings will actually reinforce your new behaviours and feelings of weirdness will dissipate.

In the beginning easy it's to exaggerate your body language. You might sit with your legs almost ridiculously far apart or sit up straight in a tense pose all the time. That's ok. And people aren't looking as much as you think, they are worrying about their own problems. Just play around a bit, practice and monitor yourself to find a comfortable balance.

1. Don't cross your arms or legs – You have probably already heard you shouldn't cross your arms as it might make you seem defensive or guarded. This goes for your legs too. Keep your arms and legs open.

2. Have eye contact, but don't stare – If there are several people you are talking to, give them all some eye contact to create a better connection and see if they are listening. Keeping too much eye-contact might creep people out. Giving no eye-contact might make you seem insecure. If you are not used to keeping eye-contact it might feel a little hard or scary in the beginning but keep working on it and you'll get used to it.

3. Don't be afraid to take up some space – Taking up space by for example sitting or standing with your legs apart a bit signals self-confidence and that you are comfortable in your own skin.

4. Relax your shoulders – When you feel tense it's easily winds up as tension in your shoulders. They might move up and forward a bit. Try to relax. Try to loosen up by shaking the shoulders a bit and move them back slightly.

5. Nod when they are talking – nod once in a while to signal that you are listening. But don't overdo it and peck like Woody Woodpecker.

6. Don't slouch, sit up straight – but in a relaxed way, not in a too tense manner.

7. Lean, but not too much – If you want to show that you are interested in what someone is saying, lean toward the person talking. If you want to show that you're confident in yourself and relaxed lean back a bit. But don't lean in too much or you might seem needy and desperate for some approval. Or lean back too much or you might seem arrogant and distant.

8. Smile and laugh – lighten up, don't take yourself too seriously. Relax a bit, smile and laugh when someone says something funny. People will be a lot more inclined to listen to you if you seem to be a positive person. But don't be the first to laugh at your own jokes, it makes you seem nervous and needy. Smile when you are introduced to someone but don't keep a smile plastered on your face, you'll seem insincere.

9. Don't touch your face – it might make you seem nervous and can be distracting for the listeners or the people in the conversation.

10. Keep you head up – Don't keep your eyes on the ground, it might make you seem insecure and a bit lost. Keep your head up straight and your eyes towards the horizon.

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11. Slow down a bit – this goes for many things. Walking slower not only makes you seem more calm and confident, it will also make you feel less stressed. If someone addresses you, don't snap you're neck in their direction, turn it a bit more slowly instead.

12. Don't fidget – try to avoid, phase out or transform fidgety movement and nervous ticks such as shaking your leg or tapping your fingers against the table rapidly. You'll seem nervous and fidgeting can be a distracting when you try to get something across. Declutter your movements if you are all over the place. Try to relax, slow down and focus your movements.

13. Use your hands more confidently – instead of fidgeting with your hands and scratching your face use them to communicate what you are trying to say. Use your hands to describe something or to add weight to a point you are trying to make. But don't use them to much or it might become distracting. And don't let your hands flail around, use them with some control.

14. Lower your drink – don't hold your drink in front of your chest. In fact, don't hold anything in front of your heart as it will make you seem guarded and distant. Lower it and hold it beside your leg instead.

15. Realise where you spine ends – many people (including me until recently) might sit or stand with a straight back in a good posture. However, they might think that the spine ends where the neck begins and therefore crane the neck forward in a Montgomery Burns-pose. Your spine ends in the back of your head. Keep you whole spine straight and aligned for better posture.

16. Don't stand too close –one of the things we learned from Seinfeld is that everybody gets weirded out by a close-talker. Let people have their personal space, don't invade it.

17. Mirror – Often when you get along with a person, when the two of you get a good connection, you will start to mirror each other unconsciously. That means that you mirror the other person's body language a bit. To make the connection better you can try a bit of proactive mirroring. If he leans forward, you might lean forward. If he puts hands in pocket, you might do the same. But don't react instantly and don't mirror every change in body language. Then weirdness will ensue.

18. Keep a good attitude – last but not least, keep a positive, open and relaxed attitude. How you feel will come through in your body language and can make a major difference. For information on how make yourself feel better read 10 ways to change how you feel and for relaxation try A very simple way to feel relaxed for 24 hours.

You can change your body language but as all new habits it takes a while. Especially things like keeping you head up might take time to correct if you have spent thousands of days looking at your feet. And if you try and change to many things at once it might become confusing and feel overwhelming.

Take a couple of these body language bits to work on every day for three to four weeks. By then they should have developed into new habits and something you'll do without even thinking about it. If not, keep on until it sticks. Then take another couple of things you'd like to change and work on them.
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Post by Mohsen » Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:25 pm

Happy new year

Wishing you peace, much joy to you in Newyear. May the warmest wishes, happy thoughts, lucky and friendly greetings reinforce at New Year .

Best regards! :-P
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Big Hello to My Dear Friends

Post by Kamelia » Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:07 pm

Hello there,

I don't want to preach that the new spring and Noruz will erase all the mistakes we made, all the wrong ways we took, all the lies we told, all our wrong deeds

But that,

It will teach us that we human beings are made to make mistakes but learn from them, reform, be better, make new pure souls out of the ashes we spread, and finally rebirth!


Happy New Year to my Iranian friends, and happy one more new spring to all our friends here. I will you all the happiest, healthiest and safest life wherever you are :-)

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Post by [amal] » Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:29 pm

Hi My great Behnam,

In this new year
May God grant you:
Sun to warm you,
Moon to charm you,
An Angel to protect you,
True love to care for you,
A friend to listen to you!

I want to say happy Teacher's Day my great and best teacher ever. I wont forget your favor, thanks ALOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT for everything.

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Post by [amal] » Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:31 pm

Hi My dear Elham,

Happy new year, I hope you are enjoying spring as I do! :-D

My wishes for you are not limited to just the next year but to all the years that you experience in your lifetime and in your reincarnations! Have a Fun-filled, Smashing, Rocking And Happening New Year!

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Post by [amal] » Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:43 pm

Happy new year to all my Iranian's Friends! :-)

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Post by WiLZiN » Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:06 pm

Hi to all..

1- Happy new Iranian year to you Behnam and Elham.
2- Happy mother day to all yours mothers my friends.
3- Happy teacher day to you my dear brother Behman and for me as a teacher too.
4- Dear Behman, you asked me why i didn't wrote anything in the thread in the last weeks...
My dear I feel lonely here. First of all because who has invited me to be here are now... you know what I mean, and second of all because I was waiting for reply from all to my posts but unfortunately there was no one here except a few shy replies I appreciated.
Dear brother I tried to be one of you and precisely you, Elham and Amal but it seems to be I failed.
So I'm here and not here. Thanks for your inquiry my dear.

Have nice days to all.
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Re: Let's learn together!

Post by Elham » Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:58 pm

Dear Wilzin,

Come onnnn, I didn't like some of your unkind words in your post! You are alone? You don't get enough replies? ..... so you don't tend to write? ohhhhh, I don't understand

Emmm, I think you're upset with just one person but you are punishing all! Your words are not accepted! Actually, I'm angry with your words and you have to do sth and pure some water on the fire! :lol:

YES....

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Post by behnam » Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:44 am

Hi Wilzin,

Many thanks for your friendly words. You are a kind person. From the time you have entered this thread, you are in our thoughts. Nothing can take you from our thoughts. You are also in my heart. I cannot judge about others' hearts, but I can safely say that you are in my heart. :lol: :lol:

As a piece of brotherly advice, you should know, ladies are like butterfly. If you try to take them, they will fly away. Just be silent and moveless, they will come and sit on your shoulders! :lol: :lol:

I want you to manage your feelings. Try to understand the limitations which the culture, the family, and the religion impose on our relationships!

As my lovely and kind friend Elham the great has asked, pour some water into the fire you have lit. Oh my God! I love this sentence very much, since I love lighting fire and pouring water into it. This is exactly what a wise man must do! Believe me, I am really laughing out loud! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh, Behnam, that's enough, you are in a naughty mood! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Happy Mother's Day!

Post by behnam » Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:22 am

Dear Friends,

I'd like to say 'Happy Mother's Day' to all mothers and potential mothers!

In Iran, 21st March isn't Mother's Day. Well, we are Iranian and we dislike to follow others. :lol: :lol: :lol:

In Iran, Mother's Day is the birthday of 'Fatemeh' the only daughter of prophet Mohammad(PBUH).

21st March cannot be a special day for all people in the world. It can be a special day for some nations, but surely it isn't a special day for all. Therefore, it is not normal to follow others blindly. I don't mean that other countries should follow us! No, never! For Iranian, Mother's Day is connected to their religious belief. What I am saying is being independent! I believe, every region should have its Mother's Day, since this day should be the symbol of motherhood! This day should be used as the valuation, the benchmark, and the criteria of judgement on ideal mothers in a society!

For us, as Shiite group, 'Fatemeh'; the only daughter of Prophet Mohammad(PBUH) is considered as the ideal mother(woman). She is the benchmark, the valuation, the symbol, the criterion, and the scale! Now, you can judge yourself, how wise and independent Iranian people are. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Our Mother's Day introduces a belief, an ideology, a strategy, a great philosophy. What does 21st March say? I may not know, you let me know! I would appreciate if you could let me know what has made the 21st March a special day for the entire world?

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Hi WiLZiN,

I think your name is special name , it is difficult to remember a special name. I don't know Wilzin is a male or female. My suggestion for going out from loneliness is to use a name which can be stuck in the mind.
I said my idea , I don't know if Behnam and Elham and Amal have a problem with your name or not!!
The second one is that you write poetic and in a special way , for example ,I remember you said in one of your post "Welcome to our thread.
You can consider that it's 2 in 1"
I didn't get it .
This is my lack of knowledge , I don't know if other friend got it or not.
I am writing in loneliness too ,but I like it.

I like you
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Post by Mohsen » Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:06 am

Hi Friends,
How do you spend your holiday , do have same feeling like me. In the second day of new year holiday ,I feel I have eaten too much and filled my stomach up to neck, Just now ,12.20 , I am going to my uncle house for a lunch reception, also I have invited to my wife's brother for dinner. It is difficult job , because I have eaten two pizzas last night and big breakfast at morning , I feel my cheek is burning,may be my blood pressure or cholesterol gone up ,. I may repent after new year holiday if I will be alive :-) :-)

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Post by Moroo » Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:23 pm

Dear our Iranian friends
Happy new year for you all, wishing you all the happiness and joy :-P

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Post by [amal] » Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:45 am

Hi Moroo,

How are you?

I am sorry about my late reply, in fact I wanted to see the movie then write my post but sadly I couldn't find the full movie on Youtube.

Do you know what my problem is? My problem is that I watch movies but I don't remember their names! Moreover, sometimes, I even don't see their names AT ALL!!! :lol: :-x
I don't care about this matter cause the name isn't important for me, what really matter is the story itself. What bothers me also is that I remember EVERY details in the movie if I saw it again for less than a minute but I can't memorize a name!!! :-x Why???????!!!! :-(

However, I remember that I watched "The Family Man" before on TV so I just saw some parts of it and I immediately remembered its story. It is really a good movie and I liked it!

Sometimes, it's hard to choose between somethings which you care about and what your heart is telling you!
Sometimes, we should give up on having our life's dream, in the hope of getting a new and better one.
Sometimes, we have to change our thoughts and beliefs just for someone who would change our world and make it happier..

But how would we know that our choice would be good?! How would we know that it wouldn't ruin our life?! :roll:

Thank god, it seems that your choice was perfect! Good for you! {-;
I am glad to hear that your love story has end with marriage since most of love stories these days don't have happy ending. :-( Why do you think?! What's wrong?!

Hope to hear from you soon.

Best wishes,
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Post by WiLZiN » Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:21 pm

Hi Behman & Elham...

May be I'm upset by someone here, but I don't want to punish anyone, you are my dear friends and always in my heart and mind.
Currently, I'm in a difficult period lonely and I'm desperately need who stand side by side with me, but everyone around me are busy or don't care or they have gone away because of orders or ideas controlled them.
As you know "Actions speak louder than words" and that is what i'm doing now and any action has positive and negative results and we have to bear but the others don't accept.
Now I'm feeling like the prophet Moses "Go with your God and fight alone, we will stay sitting here = فَاذْهَبْ أَنتَ وَرَبُّكَ فَقَاتِلا إِنَّا هَاهُنَا قَاعِدُونَ" and because of that I'm doing what Allah inspire me to do so please no one blame me on the negative results of my actions.
Dear Behnam, I'm afraid about the butterfly from burning itself in the fire of the others. What you said is nice and wise words and thank you for them.
Please pray for me dear friends as possible as, I'm really want that extremely.

Have nice days...
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Post by WiLZiN » Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:32 pm

Hi Mohsen...

My real name is Wael "male". I wrote about my self many times here in the thread.
You remind me with this song "Lonely, I'm Mr. Lonely,I have nobody for my own".
Thanks for your reply and happy new year my dear.

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Post by Kayan » Sat Mar 23, 2013 4:21 pm

Hi all,

I am new in this forums. Let introduce myself first. I am Yan. I come from Hong Kong, but now I am studying English in Taiwan. It is a little bit shame that I am studying English but my English is not that good. :-(

Actually I am suffering in my essay paper now, so I just want to find somewhere can take a fresh breath, make some new friends, and of course, learn English together. {-:

Good to see you all, and hope to see you next time.

Best,
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Post by Moroo » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:44 pm

Dear my friend Mohsen

Sorry for delay in responding to your kind post.

In respect of our custom when a new baby born, in Egypt I think it’s the same as your country ,when a baby born we offer a bunch of flowers and a piece of gold like a ring or pound gold or bracelet and sometimes for close friends we offer some money .

Please send my congratulation to your brother for his new baby :-P

All the best

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Post by Moroo » Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:32 pm

My dearest friend Behnam

You always helpful {-: thank you very much for the site that you sent, this site is really wonderful ,it helped me a lot ,I download stories and listen to them before I sleep ,and also I listen to the a story will I’m driving ,these days I’m listening to Hansel and Gretal story :oops:

You asked me who do I know that my wife loves me :evil: ,I'm sure …..

Do you know why !

Because she always tells me that, and I have to believe her, or else … :arrow:

That’s why my name is morro know :lol: :lol:

All the best ;-)

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Post by [amal] » Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:56 am

WiLZiN wrote:
May be I'm upset by someone here...
Hehe! Upset with someone here?!! Or that someone is upset with you???!!!
WiLZiN wrote: they have gone away because of orders or ideas controlled them.
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I don't think that people go away just because of orders or ideas. " as you said"

By the way, I didn't invite anyone to this thread, be careful! And remember how you get the address! :-x
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Post by setayesh » Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:34 am

Hiiiiiiiiiiii My Dear Old Friends


I'm a bit late in congratulating Nowrooz to you.so let me say Happy New year to all of you. wishing you all the best in this year.


you are always in my heart,although I rarely write in this beautiful garden.

lots of love
kisssssssss

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Post by grincas » Sun Mar 24, 2013 9:15 am

Hi to all precious friends in this thread,

Congratulating Nowrooz to you.Wishing you full of healty and peaceful days ....

and I have a question for all. I know what means Nowrooz but I want to know your thoughts about it . What Nowrooz means in your country? How do you celebrate it?I really wonder it, I think that some people in my country don t know what it means and how to celebrate it. That s why I want to satisfy my knowledge.By the way ,ı want to remind my county it is Turkey.

Wish you best...

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Post by Mohsen » Sun Mar 24, 2013 2:41 pm

Hi Grincas,
Thank you for your kind message, Nowrooz means new day , it means that winter never remain , it means that if the nature changes , the nature of people should be change.
One of the custom and traditional which people do to decorate their home is Sofreh Haft Seen. Haft Seen in Farsi means seven “S.” and Sofreh is a cloth which is spread on the table or on the floor
The spread must have seven items that in Farsi begin with the letter “s,” specifically the letter “seen.”
1.Somagh (sumac) : symbolizes the color of sunrise
2. Serkeh (vinegar): symbolizes age and patience
3. Senjed (dried fruit from lotus tree): symbolizes love
4. Samanoo (sweet pudding): symbolizes affluence
5. Sabzeh (sprouts): symbolizes rebirth
6. Sib (apple): symbolizes health and beauty
7. Sir (garlic): symbolizes medicine

Additional items that begin with the letter “s” that are commonly seen on the Sofreh are:
Sekkeh (coin): symbolizes wealth and prosperity
Sonbol (hyacinth): a spring spring flower

Other items included but not begin with letter "S"
Mahi (fish): symbolizes life
Tokhmeh Morgh (egg): symbolizes fertility
Sham (candle): symbolizes enlightenment
Shirini (sweets): symbolizes spreading the sweetness
A book of poetry or prayer (Quran)

I never pay attention to Sofreh Haftseen. I don't want to spend my time to these trifling things ,but my wife prepare it and I respect her and follow her.

B.Regards.
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Hi Amal Dear

Post by Kamelia » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:20 pm

How are you dear? How is everything going on with you? Hope it is all perfectly fine :-)
Thank you for the comprehensive post, I really appreciate it. You said:
"To say the truth, sometimes while dealing with people I try to fool myself just to know what they want and think about. And sometimes I just do that to get what I want. {-; "I am not sure that you get me but I hope so!"

Yes dear I do understand you and I have seen people doing this to see what others think about that certain matter.
You said you hate lies in general, I see to reason to ask you why since what I have seen of you during this friendship has all been pure honesty and true speeking of your heart out :-D

You asked me the following questions and now I am trying to be as truthful as you have always been :-D
"what would you do if you intend to joke with someone but that person took it too seriously and thought that your action was "cruel or something" then it became a big deal?! Would you continue joking or would you just simply tell them the truth and that you were joking?"

"Do you believe that we shouldn't joke with every person "even if they were our friends or something"? Should we know their internal personality first then play jokes on them? And do you think that there is a limit for fun or playing jokes on others? "

Actually, I am a humorous person. I feel like joking around when in groupes of friends but not always. Sometimes I joke with my professors, dormitory staff ladies and so on, not too much actually, because you might get kicked out LOL

What you say is quite natural to me. I have got into troubles a great deal but then tried to justify myself since I did not mean to offend them. Mind you, the jokes were not offensive to me at all but as my university is in another part of our country which the accent and culture differs from my own city and my accent does not really match them so...they found my jokes quite dull, you know!

Then I learned a big lesson, do NOT "fool" around everyone! Because sometimes people might seem too smiley and humorous in appreance but in fact they might be too serious-minded to hate you even for the joke you cracked LOOOL

But well, to sum this up, I find jokes and fooling arounds quite fun. There is no reason to harden this life more than it is. You do not live much, so why not try to make a happy world around you and warm other people and yourself up!

What do YOU think? You think I was wrong to laugh with my own roommates and be funny without knowing they culture? :-D

Hope to read from you so soon,


P.S. This is the first time I am using the quoting system so if you find any difficulties in reading my post, please let me know :-)

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Hi Ellie joon

Post by Kamelia » Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:06 pm

How are you doing lovely girl? Happy New Yeaaaaar to you. How is it going there in your city? Your family? Everyone enjoying themselves and so on. You got guests? Are you invited to your relatives' houses? Will you take me too? :-D
I am quite alone this year. I mean I am mostly with family not relatives or friends. Spending time with them since during the year I saw so little of them. I was either studying away in my college or was in library or at home again studying or reading. Did not see much of them LOL

Ellie jo0o0on, not at ALL! Silly? Oh Gosh, damn me! When I said the word I did not mean that YOU produced a silly topic, I meant I had problems writing about them, so the sillyness is mine! LOOL
But I see that you got over it very well. You wrote about butterflies, lovely paragraph! Ellie joon I love them in nature too. Oh and besides butterflies I love lady-birds and dragon-flies. You might find me quite silly on bringing out such interests but...believe it or not I am crazy about them!

Now let's change the subject...oh it is spring and new scents are smelled outdoors, why did I come up with scents? I want to know if Ellie chose a new one :-D come on, tell me if you bought any new perfumes?

Ellieeee, speaking of scents, have you got flowers and trees in the yard? Which ones do you like these days?

Write to me Ellie so soon,

I'll be waitin,

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Hi Mohsen

Post by Kamelia » Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:41 pm

How are you? How is the New-Years-life going on? Busy with guests and parties? Having fun? Or tired of buying groceries for serving guests? :-D

just kidding, hope you are enjoying the holidays with family.

Dear Mohsen, I understand that you wrote your post with a cellphone but the font was, believe me, too hard for such a short-sighted creature like me, to read! So I had to copy it to word and so on. But I read it anyhow :-D

Wow...you wrote of class differences, telephone banks (I hate them too man), headsets and aesthetism! Tell you what, although it fall loaded with topics it was comprehensive! Uh dear friend, complain is always there since most of things are not in their own places. Technology comes, people do not still know how to use it. Tech is there but there is no mannerism for it! No set of rules, it is all NOT TOs! You see?

Oh and aesthetism...you remined me of aesthetic movement, people who tried for it to achieve its real meaning. LOL Still you are reminding me of the lovely times studying for this year's konkur, Gosh! LOL Never mind of it...

Dear Mohsen, what do YOU think, what is it that modern people lack? Manners? Knowledge of beauties? Instructions? Values?

Waiting for your reply,

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Post by Kamelia » Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:49 pm

How are youuuu dear? Long time no see. I actually it has been a very short time that I have "reconciled" with this lovely place place too so..I understand you, been there Setayesh jan! :-D

Happy New Year to you too. Wish you have a wonderful year full of health, happiness and prosperity.

Happy to see your post here,

Write to us soon,

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Patience Is Virtue!

Post by behnam » Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:31 am

Hi Wael & Hi Amal,

How are you? I hope all is going well with you and you are enjoying this lovely weather in this beautiful spring.

I heard that the most famous and effective religious leader who cared about his country and its people has been killed by enemies in a mosque. It was very sad. }: }: }:

Today, I saw in the headlines that the leader of rebels has resigned. This can be a piece of good news, but amazingly, strangely, ridiculously, till now, three countries; America, England, and Qatar has disagreed with his resignation! What does it say and mean? It says and means a lot for understanding people!

The main purpose of this post is not mentioning to some news. Surely, you know such things much better than me. However, as always, I was following the thread and read all posts carefully. Recently, I've found your posts a little bit bumpy! Particularly, I've found Wilzin complainant in his posts! This is not a good way to show sadness. This place is not good to share secrets. As a friend, I want you both to be patient and careful.

Dear Wael, a man should hide his negative feelings. When you feel lonely, nobody should know it! Why? That is obvious, since that is common for human beings to feel lonely. As you know, human beings were created to live in paradise. They were fooled by Satan and they did what they weren't expected to do! As a punishment, they were kicked out from that beautiful place. They are living in the Earth now. Well, being out of the right place, they all have a feeling of loneliness. This is common among people. However, a man should know the fact that he must hide his negative feelings. He must be like a mountain, alone and strong! {-:

One of the reasons for the attraction and need of ladies for men is their loneliness. Naturally, at a particular age, they feel very lonely. They often find men soothing. This makes them be attracted to men. In fact, this is the philosophy of life. To put it simply, this is the trick of nature; to keep life and generation going. Therefore, as a man, you are supposed to support a lonely girl. Stop complaining about loneliness. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh Wael, the price of cats and dogs is increasing dramatically in some societies. Do you know why? Well, there are many reasons for this. One of the main reasons is either men are not soothing anymore(=they don't play their roles rightly), or there is a shortage of men! Consequently, ladies replace them with dogs and cats!...hehehehehehe LOL On the other hand, it shouldn't be denied that these days, the majority of girls who are affected and influenced by the negative effects of the west philosophy, are more interested in girlfriend-boyfriend relationship! These kinds of relationships cannot be lasting. Sooner or later, ladies will be the losers and they have to think of having pets; such as cats and dogs! Oh, I am sure, in the future, cats and dogs will be very expensive. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I am quite sure that my dear friend Wael will think I am taking Amal's side! But, this is not true. You are both my friends. I do care about you. I played the role of a mirror in this post. I reflected what I am functionally should do.

All the best,
Behnam, 25 March, 2013



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Post by [amal] » Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:09 pm

Hi Behnam,

How are you?

First of all I want to Thank you for your sympathy. In fact, I don't care if that person was the "most famous and effective religious leader" or not, at least he had a reason to be killed but what I care the most about is the innocent people who were there! :-( What fault does they commit???!! Praying and hearing gods words???!!! :cry:

*Emm, let me make myself clear cause I don't want anybody to misunderstand me, I am not saying that I am not sad about that Sheikh since death in itself makes us mourn. Above that, I am not saying that he deserved it. No, not at all! In my ideas only god knows who is right and who is wrong these days here. What I was saying is that he was involved in political matters not like other people who went to that mosque just to pray!

Anyway, let's forget it. May god have mercy on them..

Oh dear, my post wasn't bumpy, the situation in my country is enough for me! :lol: :cry:

I was just saying some facts and correcting some of Wael sentences ! {-:
Moreover, I am not who shared secret things here or anywhere else! I was just surprised when I saw that Wael was "is" sad and it's obvious that he was blaming me. Although, I don't know why! :lol:

I tread to be patient and didn't want to say ANY WORD about this topic and moreover -as you said- I don't agree to speak about such things in this place since I love it and don't want to distort it BUT I couldn't see someone accuses me and stay silent...

Dear friend, look, when you always alert and warn someone and tell him that this is what going to happen, however, although that he agrees and ask you to continue your friendship normally
and he is satisfied and will bear the risk of things in the future. After all that the things you had warned them from happens so he come and blame YOU!!!! WHYYYY???!!!! Why didn't he let you go from the beginning???!!! Why is he complaining now??!! Why isn't he satisfied??!!! Why does he just judge you and your actions although you were very clear and said that you can't do it from the beginning??!!!!
Dear friend just say the truth does he has the right?!

By the way, thanks for your words and your posts, I agree with every word you have said in them! You just say what is it in my mind. :)

It's lunch time here so I have to leave and end this post.

Sorry about all this matter, I really didn't want to bother you with me and my stories.

Wish you the best,
Amal

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Post by Elham » Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:36 pm

Hi dear Kami,

Happy new year to you and your family. Hope you are enjoying your holidays beside your mom, dad and sister.

Oh thanks for you very kind post. I'm very well and everything is great. Specially last two days that my lovely cute cousins had come to our city and we spent almost all day together. We enjoyed ourselves a lot;at nights we would gather together and spoke till morning, then we had some rest and again! We really enjoy talking to each other, my cousins are very friendly, nice and funny.We match together very well.We talk about everything, we do have serious conversations about life, marriage, relationships, family members, job, study,.... , as much as we make joke and laugh. Oh last night we laughed aloooooot, thank god! I'm very happy and energetic. They left us today in the hope that next month we go to their city and again enjoy our time.

Oh sometimes I imagine Behnam,Amal, Kami, Setayesh and Elham visit each other in person. Woooooooow, what a wonderful gathering! Five lovely, wise, kind and nice friends meet together and chat and have fun, oh I love it! :-D :-D :-D

I'm happy now, I love people of my life. My family members, my relatives, my friends,without them... oh noooooooo, I can't imagine it. I wish them all healthiness, happiness and success. Thankssssssssss God for gifting them to me.Thanks thanks thanks :-)

I wish you could travel to Esfahan, so that we could meet each other. I'm very serious honey, please plan to come here, I'm inviting you and your family to Njafabad. I'm sure we will enjoy spending time together, specially now that weather is so pleasant.Think about it pleaseeeeeeee :-)

You know, recently I'm very angry with this fake world, fake smiles, fake laughs, fake meetings...I wish everything were real! Heeeeeeeeem... :-x

Anyway, I enjoyed writing to you. I feel your kindness and warmth of your heart and enjoy it.Thanks honey.Oh Kami, please read my posts as a friend , not as an English specialist. I'm not satisfied with my English in this post and feel shy :oops:

Love,
Eli

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Hi Amal

Post by Moroo » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:59 pm

I'm sorry about my late reply.

You wondered "how we would know that our choice would be good". I think only the Mathematical results is a Hundred percent granted, but that doesn't mean we leave ourselves without doing our homework.

First: Always listen to your mind not to your heart.

Second: Keep your heart working 30% and your mind working 70% not the opposite.

Third: Always evaluate :prof: the relationship especially during the first period, because if you evaluate your relationship after a long time and found something bad with him :!!: , you will try to find many excuses for him to stay with him.

Fourth: Always listen to what your friends and your parents say, then think, don't ignore what they say, especially if all of them have different opinion.

Fifth: Don't take big decision unless you 100% sure. If you still hesitated take more time and more and more, because taking wrong step may destroy your whole life, and you will regret for the rest of your life.

Finally: ALWAYS leave anyone that when you are with him you fell happy and comfortable and when you are far from him you feel uncomfortable, that means he is Deceitful and you are in illusion, because when you are far from him your mind is working and when you are beside him your heart is working.

Always stay with the one you mean everything to him not the one that you mean a thing to him.

Wish you all the happiness in your life and your future :-P

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Post by Mohsen » Tue Mar 26, 2013 5:58 am

Dear Kamelia,

I hope you enjoy your new year holiday beside your parents ,Thank you for your post,sorry for using a fade font in last my writing to you. Although you wear a dominant eyeglasses (As I see in your beautiful picture),you hardly read it.
About modern people, people who use modern equipment . many people have lack of knowledge about their culture and belief , because they didn't study about their history ,their ideology ,so their mind is like an empty shell , so attracted and built their personality by what the technology feed them , they think if they match their personality with western style in life and appearance ,they are calling modern people, you see people with special style of hair ,or having a small dog in their car. Some people follow the western culture , like Valentine ( it is important for them that a priest in jail wrote a letter to daughter of warder and said I love you)
The modern people have lack of studying about their rich culture and belief.
What is your idea?

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Strange and disappointing!

Post by behnam » Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:04 am

}: }: }: }: }: :-( :-( :-( :-( :-(

Hi all friends,

You cannot imagine how sad and amazed I am right now! I am not sad and amazed because of Amal's words or her sentences and reactions! I am sad about Islam and Muslim!

When I was at school, I used to think about the reason why the world of Islam is lagging behind the rest nations! During the studying time at schools and university I was always searching for a good reason to satisfy myself. The more I searched the less I found. Sometimes, I criticized our cultures which value laziness rather than hardworking. Sometimes I criticized the enemies. Sometimes I criticized the previous leaders, politicians and kings. These are only some minor reasons. After overcoming Prejudice which always prevents us from understanding and accepting facts, I tried to study the history of Islam and Iran. Finally, I understood why the world of Islam as well as Iran are lagging behind the developed countries.

As it is mentioned above, there are many reasons for this lag, but I'd like to write about one of them which is extremely important; I suppose so.

I am not a politician, and I dislike politics. However, I never close my eyes to facts. I cannot be alive and ignorant at the same time. Ignorance equals death in my life philosophy!

Considering things in a way they are either completely good(right) or completely bad(wrong) is called 'seeing things in black and white'. This is a simple way of judgement. In many areas of life, we must think in an analog way, not digitally. However, we should be careful, when there is a fight, one side is right and the other side is wrong! There is no third option! War and fight are black and white. There are no grey areas in those situations!

One of the main reasons for lagging behind is the lack of recognition! Muslims are terrible at recognizing enemy from friend! In order to put emphasis on it I'd like to write it in bold shape: "MUSLIMS ARE TERRIBLE AT RECOGNIZING ENEMY FROM FRIEND"! But why?

First we must accept this fact, since accepting a fact is half of knowing the reason for it! Books can be written about this lack of recognition. I am not in the mood for writing more about it, but if a wise Muslim read the story of Siffin war, s/he could drag many facts out of it. I strongly recommend that my friends read the story of Siffin war to get familiar with the philosophy of 'Abu Musa Al-Ashtar'i! Some Muslims who lack recognition put a lot of things after his name( Razi Allaho Anho, May God bless him, ra...)! If you asked them why, they might say; "well, he was a companion of the prophet; he had the most beautiful voice when he recited Koran"! Is that enough? A machine or a recorder may recite the holy Koran much better than him. Many people, animals, things were companion of the prophet!

For me, that person is known as the father of 'Third Philosophy'! After being fooled by the representative of Mawyeh he naively said, "Both Ali and Mawyeh are wrong"! Some naive people cheered and shouted 'Bravo, bravo, bravo..Ashari, Ashari, Ashari.." ! What happened? You know it.

In my opinion, when there is a war, a fight, one side is right and the other side is wrong. Others are supporting those two sides with accordance their own benefits. There is no third option. It is our duty and religious responsibility to think wisely and to recognize the right side and support that. If we lack recognition-we cannot recognize enemy from friend- we are useless! Useless people who cannot recognize enemies from friends are wasting food and energy. They are useless and dangerous!

The first paragraph of Amal's post sounds really strange! Oh my God! People are different with different ability, talent, intelligence, effectiveness, importance,...All people have nose, mouth, head, stomach, hair, etc. They eat, drink, sleep, etc. BUT, they are different. They are not the same. Einstein is a man. Behnam is a man too. Both are physicists, but the differences between us is much bigger than the entire world.

Her way of writing sounds beautiful. Some sugar coated words which are obtained from the Satellite TVs are put beside together to show that the writer is modern and thinks differently! Come on girl! Be yourself! Stop being like 'Abu Musa Ashari'; there is no third option. The enemy thinks differently, although it speaks beautifully. It is like snake in the grass!

In some events, for example, when a city is bombarded by an enemy; in order to misuse the emotions of other nations-to make others emotional and get benefits from it-they often say; "Hundreds women and children were died"! It doesn't mean that these people are more important than men. It means that these people were innocent. They weren't fighting, but they were died!

Anyway, I am really sad, amazed and disappointed!

All the best,
Behnam, 26 March, 2013


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Post by WiLZiN » Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:11 pm

My dearest dear Amal...

1- You are upset with me I know that and I'm very sorry for that and because of that I'm upset with someone here "It's me".
2- You invited me to this thread but we were not close friends as now, and when our friendship went more stronger and deeper and you told me more and more about the thread and the dear friends Behnam & Elham I wanted to be here and I asked you for the address but you didn't gave it to me so your brother gave it to me.

Have nice days...
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Post by behnam » Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:50 pm

Hi Yan,

Welcome to this thread. Thank you very much for joining us. Thank you once again for putting comment. We are all English learners in this place.

Your English is very good. I hope we will help each other with great improvement in it.

Please write more about yourself, your country and your life. About me, you can find some information on the first page. If you need to know more about me, just let me know.

I hope to hear from you soon.

All the best,
Behnam, 26 March, 2013

P.S. Yan's first post is on page 110!

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Post by WiLZiN » Tue Mar 26, 2013 5:24 pm

Dear brother Behnam...

1- the most famous and effective religious leader who cared about his country and its people in Syria was "Albouti" who you can rate him as "Alkhomaini" in Iran. He saw what is happened in our country as a part of the holy war of the end of time and a preparation to the appearance of the Antichrist.
2- I didn't share any secrets, I just wrote general feelings and I didn't nominee any one or for what I was upset. Your last post rouse Amal to speak but it's ok and the situation shift to a higher level and it's good in general so don't worry.
3- Your words are wise and your approach is Inspirational, I'm envy you for is man. Your experience in life is so useful for me my older brother.
4- You and Amal are so precious to me, and if you were in her side that's ok dear because your words and ideas are welcome all the time.

Have nice days...
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Post by [amal] » Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:37 am

Hi Behnam,

How are you?

First of all, I want to say sorry that I or my words made you sad and disappointed.

Dear, when people speak or discuss political matter or sensitive things both sides have the right to say their full and true ideas, therefore, noone should get upset and those words and thoughts shouldn't effect the relationship between their owners...

Anyway, In this post I want to make myself clear and explain my idea more for you, I am not saying that I am right and you are wrong or the opposite. I AM JUST SAYING MY OWN IDEAS which I am convinced with them and I don't have to put sugar on them even I don't have to make them sound beautiful since I haven't taken them from anywhere else, by the way, I hate satellite news channels... Hehe :lol: :lol:

I'd like to begin my main point by starting from the beginning...

In fact, in the past, I met our president and his wife in person, you can't believe how kind and great person he was, he was very simple and I am sure that there is NO president in THE WORLD deals with his people like he did, he were our brother. I was very happy of his efforts on building our country since it was developing very fast.

However, when bad things started to happen what they called it "revolution", I was against it and took our president side and believed that there wasn't any need for it. Moreover, all people knew that these actions are America's and Israel's actions. All people took this matter as a silly thing and said that they can't play this joke on us and we are stronger than what they think, all people were watching what is going in the country on TV as if it was a movie since all the things were a big lie! However, after some while things changed and killing had started when it wasn't
needed. So dear Behnam, although that person was great "the right or white side" and I believed in him BUT KILLING is against my beliefs so it was a black mark on a white area so that made the color grey!
How would I accept that he is right and ignore my beliefs and things that I believe in?!
In this way, I won't have a principle! And that will make me a useless and a two faced person!

My friend, believe me grey side is needed here, I can't be with a side which killing people. Even

though, he is right and he is against Israel our real enemy. On the other hand, I can't be with the rebels who I even don't believe at all in them and see them black!
Grey side isn't useless, it even isn't just about some modern ideas from a silly girl. No, not at all. It's a principle which Based on not believing in killing innocent people, it's about fighting and killing the right enemy. It's about making our dream come true, it's about being united, dear, there was nothing would prevent us from being united if that silly actions hadn't been made! we "my country and yours" have the power to make the dream comes true. Don't we?!
However, they choose to fight indirectly and this is what I can't understand!

From what I have said up, I think now, it's clear that I am not following Abo Musa Al-Ashtar'i or any other Philosophy even I am not taking my words from Satellite TVs. These ideas are facts!

If it is our duty and religious responsibility to think wisely and to recognize the right side and support that then I can tell you bravely that THE PEOPLE SIDE IS THE RIGHT SIDE! Is that good?! Clear?! Am I not silly now? Am I not a coward girl??!

Behnam! you don't know how we "the people" are strong, you don't know how patience we are, you don't know how much we have sacrificed, you don't know how much those who you called them "silly girls" has given to this country, to their home! They has given it their fathers', brothers', their husbands' and their sons', isn't that enough??!!! If it asks our souls we will give it to it, we accept to die in the hope to give the next generation a better future. But dear, what I am saying that our blood shouldn't be wasted by killing each other for silly things, it should be for killing our real enemy, in this way, I can proudly just say that I gave my blood and my body to protect my land! Which is my honor! Believe it or not, if any side, the black or the white just said that he is going to fight the enemy, I will be ready to go with them and I will support them, am I still a silly girl?! If silly girl is like this then I am proud to be silly!

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Post by [amal] » Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:38 am

Dear, let me give you an example to be more clear and let me use the family or the father example which we used in our chat..

Let us imagine that there is a father "our president" who have kids "the people" and a wife "Arab". One day, one of his son make a mistake and go to play out in the street while his father said no to him and didn't accept, so when the father see his son playing he immediately kills him!! Well, he made a mistake and in your point of view he deserves that! After the son had been killed, his brothers were so sad about their brother and didn't know why their father did that so they went to their father to ask about the reasons. However, instead of explaining the matter and tell them that their brother made a mistake, he killed them! The wife in this point couldn't tolerate him so she went and asked help from her family "America and France and and and...etc". Her family were ready to help her since they will get benefit from that when they win the fight! Again in this point although the father is still strong but he wanted to make himself stronger, moreover his family "Iran and Russia and and..etc" wanted to support him too...
So both sides "big countries" started to control the husband and his wife and playing with them like dolls! Now there is two ways to end this story:
1- The wife's family's side win, so they will take the money which the wife will take it from the dowry.
OR the husband will die so they can take the house "The land" too.

2- The father's family's side win, so the husband will see that he should reward his family and at least appreciate their job by start giving them his salary or even he can give them parts of his house "the land".

I hope the story was clear so now let me explain my idea and how I would solve the matter if I was the father there are a lot of solution like:

1- the father from the begging don't kill his son, instead, he try to explain to him why his action was wrong and tell him that if he did it again, he will punch him, or even let him punch him from the beginning BUT WITHOUT KILLING! In this way, his son will have more respect for his father and will be more responsible in the next time..

2- The father kills his son since he made a mistake. HOWEVER, he explain to his brothers why he killed him, in this way, they will have a life lesson and will understand their father. Moreover, in this way, the wife would accept her first child death and may say that her husband was right and maybe they think that they didn't raise him up well so they have to be careful with their other sons and raise them perfectly!

3- The father and the wife solve their problems alone, without any external interference from their families just to keep the family independent and prevent it from being destroyed!

Whatever matter to me in this story is that everybody "the father, the mother, the both families" cared about proving that they are the right side and forget the much important thing which is the FAMILY OR THE HOUSE, nobody cared if the father's and the mother's family will destroy even nobody were fighting together and forgot the kids "the poor people" everybody were forgot about the real enemy!!!!

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Post by [amal] » Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:39 am

Now let me return to your post, and say that I don't know why you'd find my first part strange, I really don't know!

Dear, of course all people have nose, mouth, head, stomach, hair, etc. They eat, drink, sleep, etc. However, they aren't different, they are all the same! Just the only thing which makes them different is their relationship with god; which is just known by HIM. For example, you made a comparison between you and Einstein. Well, Einstein is a great person and a famous one but how is his relationship with Allah?! Does you know anything about it? No, you don't cause you just know what it's written about him. On the other hand, you aren't a famous person as much as him and maybe people don't even know who you are. However, your relationship with god is very strong. Can we still say that Einstein is much

important than you???!!! If god say in the holy koran " لا فرق بين عربي و اعجمي الا بالتقوى و العمل الصالح" how would we say sth against that???!!!

What I meant in my first post is that there are a lot of hidden innocent people who were killed for no reason and nobody cared about their death, meanwhile everyone were busy with knowing who killed that shaikh!!!! Not to get revenge from his killer, no, but just to prove that the other side is wrong... isn't that silly???!!! He just simply passed away, who killed him will be punished by god since only him knows who he is..

it's 5 AM now, and my mind has stopped working and I haven't sleep yet so I have to finish this post now. However, I hope my words didn't bother you this time and I hope

you understand me.

thanks for reading.
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A Different Angle!(Part One)

Post by behnam » Wed Mar 27, 2013 6:45 am

Hi Amal,

Thank you very much for clear explanation. I really enjoyed reading your posts which are including your political points and show your main concerns. I know, it has taken you a lot of time to write those posts(the last three posts), but It's well worth the effort, since such things are informative. Your posts provide(or cause to provide) some useful facts or ideas.

First of all, it is vitally important to know that false assumptions result in wrong conclusions! In order to make good judgments, or to have strong foundations, we must be very careful with our basic postulates, basic concepts, and our assumptions.

There are many interesting issues in your posts. In fact, each of them can be a good topic for a long discussion. It will be very boring if I take all of them into consideration and write something about each one. However, I believe your analogy between family and country is really interesting. It won't be wrong if I say that the vast majority of your ideas(your conclusions) are based on this analogy(assumption). I'd like to write something about your analogy in the hope that it will help things become clearer to you and to people who think like you. Let's have a look at your analogy:
Let us imagine that there is a father "our president" who have kids "the people" and a wife "Arab". One day, one of his son make a mistake and go to play out in the street while his father said no to him and didn't accept, so when the father see his son playing he immediately kills him!! Well, he made a mistake and in your point of view he deserves that! After the son had been killed, his brothers were so sad about their brother and didn't know why their father did that so they went to their father to ask about the reasons. However, instead of explaining the matter and tell them that their brother made a mistake, he killed them! The wife in this point couldn't tolerate him so she went and asked help from her family "America and France and and and...etc". Her family were ready to help her since they will get benefit from that when they win the fight! Again in this point although the father is still strong but he wanted to make himself stronger, moreover his family "Iran and Russia and and..etc" wanted to support him too...
So both sides "big countries" started to control the husband and his wife and playing with them like dolls!

Why do you suppose the kid has been playing in the street?(actually, you have considered the rebels as an innocent kid who has been playing in the street. This has been against his father rules. Therefore, his father, who sounds wild and dictator in this analogy, has killed the kid cruelly. ).

Now, let's have another assumption: There is a successful family(your country). It has a good and effective relationship with its friends(With Iran for example). It achieves good improvement(as you have mentioned yourself). Other families(enemies) feel jealous and scared of it. The enemies put their mind together to find a way to destroy this family. All options are on the table! One of them says, "We should take military action". One of them disagrees and says, "Emm, I disagree with direct fight, because it is not economical. It is also dangerous to our solders' health and safety."

The third one is expert at Islamic families. It knows a lot about the differences, the desires, the attitudes, the values, the likes and dislike of Islamic families. Therefore, it says, "I also disagree with taking military action now. I have studied on the family members. The older boy is actually against his father. He has different views. He also likes to take his father's position in the family. He can be easily fooled if we speak privately with him. We will promise to support him if he agrees with our plan." One of them surprisingly asks, "What is the plan?" It answers, "We should highlight their differences. In order to make the situation complicated and critical, we will ask the older boy to kill his younger brother. He may resist, but we will tell him that killing your younger brother is the first step. I am sure, he will agree to kill his younger brother. When the younger brother is killed, the father will punish the old boy. He is strict. He may kill the older boy, because that is a law in the family to punish a criminal in the way that he has committed the crime. The mother is emotional. This will make her get angry with his husband. We can also send some private messages to her, in order to provoke serious debates. Right now, two boys are killed, and they are fighting with each other. Inevitably, three groups will be established inside the family: a) Father b)Mother C) Neutral members. Supporting mother, we can fool this group to kill someone from neutral members. At the same time, in the media, we will say the cruel father has killed that innocent person. The game will be played perfectly. The family will be destroyed automatically, sooner or later."

The father advises the family members, but it is useless. The situation is complicated. They don't believe each other. The father asks their friends for some help. He may say, "Oh my friends, although the problem is inside my home, your peaceful situation is not guaranteed. By the way, we have signed the support treaty. If the enemies destroy my home, they will destroy yours too. Help me!"


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A Differnt Angle!(Part Two)

Post by behnam » Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:21 am

Dear Amal, I want you to consider this analogy. I am sure the conclusions will be different. The main drawback to this analogy which also makes me wonder is that why the father doesn't leave the family? What forces him to resist? If I were him, I'd leave the family when my younger boy was killed. I don't know. Maybe, I would be able to speak with all members and make all angles clear to them. They might follow my advice. The older boy might change his idea, but how could I tolerate his crime. He is a criminal! If I punished him, it would create another tension. If I didn't punish him, it was against the laws.

This was my reply to your political views. I hope it is clear.

I'd like to write something about your interpretation on the Hadis. Let's have a look at it:
! If god say in the holy koran " لا فرق بين عربي و اعجمي الا بالتقوى و العمل الصالح" how would we say sth against that???!!!
I am not sure, either this is in the holy Koran or not. Maybe, it is a Hadis. It is similar to an Ayeh in the holy Koran that says, "...انّ اكرمكم عندالله اتقكم..." . Yes, that is right. However, we should know, it is mostly applicable in the other world. "عند الله", that is true, but what about "عند اابشر"?

In a society, there are many people. Only God knows who is a good person(in terms of his own criteria), and who is bad. He will give rewards to good people, and will punish bad ones. However, in the society, people are really different. Some of them are more effective than others. Some of them play more important roles than others. Obviously, from this point of view, people are different. They are not the same at all.

Thank you for reading. I'd like to repeat that
MUSLIMS ARE TERRIBLE AT RECOGNIZING ENEMY FROM FRIEND.

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A Different Angle!(Part Three)

Post by behnam » Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:50 am

Hi friends,

Me Again! Sorry to bother you. This is the final part. I'd like to take this opportunity to write something about misinterpretation of the holy Koran. As you know, the holy Koran is in Arabic. Therefore, it is different from my mother tongue which is Azerbaijani. This makes it difficult to read and understand. I am absolutely certain that you agree with me on this issue. :lol:

However, Arab people are supposed to understand it easily. At least, the holy Koran is expected to be better understood by people who speak in Arabic. This is reasonable, isn't it? :lol:

An extremely important thing, when it comes to interpretation of the holy Koran, is that its Ayat should be noticed together. It means when interpenetrating an Ayeh, we should carry out an overall review of the holy Koran. This is called 'Interpretation of Koran by means of Koran"!

In order to give an example, let me have a look at 49:13(Hajarat):


"يا ايّها النّاس انّا خلقناكم من ذكر و انثي و جعلنا لكم شعوباً و قبائل لتعارفو انّ اكرمكم عندالله اتقكم انّ الله عليم خبير"

"O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes,that you may know each other (not that you may despise each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of
you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things)."

In order to avoid making mistake(I mean Amalish mistake! {-: ) we should also take a look at 4:34(Nesa):

"...الرّجال قوّامون علي النّساء بما فضّل الله بعضهم علي بعض و بما انفقوا من اموالهم"

"Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means..."


This is a countervail Ayeh, although I do have faith and belief in it. Forget the first part, which is correctly against feminist, I want you to notice carefully to understand that people are different. :lol: :lol: :lol:

In the first Ayeh, the religious actions, the deeds, the righteousness, the rewording things are considered. However, it is a misinterpretation of Ayeh to think that people are equal. {-:

In the second Ayeh, as you see, the social roles of people are considered. It is the most obvious reason that people are different, because they have different effectiveness, role, positions, duties, responsibilities,etc.

I hope to hear from you soon.

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Hi Behnam

Post by Kamelia » Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:34 am

How are you dear?

Actually I was going to write to Ellie and Mohsen but I saw your and Amal's posts in a row and I thought maybe it would be too rude of me to read all these words of wisdom and not utter a single thing so...

I really enjoy reading your posts since they are written in a very careful manner, ecceltic choice of words, a very clear way of treating political and philosophical subjects along with simple analogies so that people like me could understand them :-D

First of all I want to thank you for the above reasons and much more than them, since it will be a long discussion itself to talk about your writing style, simplistic but quite polemical! Then I want to confess that I know no philosophy, I know not how to hover on these matters since I have not read about them, I have just heard, read news, saw propagandists' talk about them and then the specialists discuss them in details. I have just SEEN them, never did I try to dig deeply into them (oh please take it seriously) since its not really my area of interest. It is simply too hard for me, call me nuts, but I really can not :-D

Now, what I am going to say as I have always said is that, when there is a fight others always dare to come in between and interfere with the matters so they can get benefits. But there are names, as masks, to these intereferences! Some do it so terribly apparent that others can see it as crystal clear that they WANT sth but some...they do it under "seemingly helpful masks"! You have to read between their lines. The true suffer's for people who are involved in this fight without even wanting it or taking any part in it from the first. They are involved, abused and then killed maybe.

Sometimes I think, maybe no one really understands what the whole matter's about, not even the people who started it. They start a fire, they make it burn and then make it worth but then it is like that no one knows what it was really about. The only ones who understand this might be the poor innocent people who live in this terrible situation.

I am not really taking sides, and I dont really know if I should. But that was the whole thing that I knew about it.

Thank you for reading this,

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Hiii Ellie joon

Post by Kamelia » Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:51 am

How are youuuu lovely host? I guess there is no need to ask this since Ellie is so happy these days and I can not say how happy she made me feel with expressing her feelings.

So seems like somebody here is accusing me of being a specialist :-D Are we going to fight about it? Or you will surrender yourself? LOL
I am just a student, oh and between ourselves, not a good one :-D

Ellie jooooon, I see you got a lot of lovely cousins to see and talk to, or even travel to their homes. Poor Kami's cousins are either too old not have kids and grandkids or have travelled or other cities and countries. I wonder if I could share your cousins with you if you got any extra ones :-D Children under five are even accepted with great pleasure, I love kids!
Ellie, do you play Daf for them? Have you played it recently? Do you know that Kami thinks she almost forgot how to read the musical notes? Shame on me :oops:

So I see that they are awaiting your arrival, I really wish that you enjoy your trip there, and have a lot of fun.

Dear Ellie, I guess I wish that too. It would be awesome if we could, just could, gather somewhere, all of us, and then simply chat.

You wrote of so many good stuff and then you even invited me to Esfahan but then all of a sudden you got sad. It does not become you dear. Cheer up, world's been like this for so long as it is its age. We can not stop these fakes, can we? We have to bear them, but then we can make them simply easy for ourselves with trying to bear with them. Trying to improve our souls so that we do not get bothered or irritated so easy. Oh Ellie, you know these words better than me, I am just preaching like an old lady. You have always been to patient and kind. These little barriers and fakings can not turn your calm soul sad.

Elliieeeeeeeee, just guess how much I have missed Esfahan! You can not do it, that I bet! And Najaf Abad I have not seen, I really wish I could :-( One of my wonderful memories is from Esfahan. I can never forget traveling there. It was a whole new experience. It felt like a real travel in Persia! You feel what it means to be Iranian :-D Even the accent is wonderfully alive. It rings beautiful bells in your ears, don't laught I mean it!

I enjoyed writing to you too, It is free, happy and refreshing.

Hope I read from you so soon,

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Re: Let's learn together!

Post by [amal] » Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:37 pm

Hi Behnam,

How are you?

Thanks for your posts, I really enjoyed reading them and enjoyed your angle.

This post is just to say SORRY, I MADE A MISTAKE, of course what I wrote isn't from the holy Koran! I am so sorry. What a big mistake!

Emm although, there is no need to give explanation about this mistake since I had did it and knowing the reasons isn't important for you.. But I am going to say them anyway and god knows that this is the truth, emm, when I reached to my final part in fact there were an Ayah in my mind but my mother caught me awake and this thing made me lost my mind so I mixed between the ideas and between the hades and the ayah! :-( :oops: :oops: :oops:

In fact, the last part isn't written the way which I wanted and I couldn't explain it clearly. However, I couldn't rewrite it and even I couldn't not send the post because I had promised you to write about the matter... :-(

Moreover, there are still some points in your first post to me which I haven't talked about it yet. Inshallah, I will write a post about it soon.

Finally, I really want to say that I am sorry about my mistake, it's really a big shame!

See you.

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Re: Let's learn together!

Post by Mohsen » Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:59 pm

Hi Amal,
Thank you for your long post ,you spent one night to write it ,I read it not with enjoy , because I can feel the pains and hardship which the Syrian people are suffering now.

Dear Amal , we can't find perfect people , the people should be accepted along with their mistakes and weakness ,the leaders and religious people also are not distinct from the people, although we expect that they don't make mistake.
So in normal circumstances that we have good , bad ,worse and worst.
certainly we choose the good but sometime we have to choose bad ,because the other side is worse or worst.


You have written that 'THE PEOPLE SIDE IS THE RIGHT SIDE" but I want to say that it is not always a correct way, because they are not always in the right truck. We have many stories in Koran , I want to tell the story of Moses and Israelian.

When Moses went to the mount of Sina for 40 days, a person who was called Samery decived the Israelian, He made a golden calf and said to people that
"He (Samiri) said: I saw what they did not see, so I took a handful (of the dust) from the footsteps of the messenger, then I threw it in the casting (of the calf); thus did my soul (nafs) commend to me." (Qur'an 20:96) so all Israelian believed in Sameri and started worshipping the Golden Calf except 5 persons who were in Samery 'opposition and 12000 people who were neutral ,but 600.000 people were deceived by Samery and forgot what Moses told them.
These people who had seen the Moses magic works , and how Moses parted the water for them to escape from Pharaoh's soldiers.

I don't want to confirm Asad as a perfect man ,but I want to say the Israel and USA made a Golden Calf ( They called it Freedom and democracy) for Syrian people to deceive them and if many people in Syria follow them it does not present that people side is the right side.
My idea is that each side that supported by USA is the black side , so it is better to accept Asad at present and leave your gray side and be sure that it is the right truck.
Fortunately people of Syria had a good resistance against USA for one year, although USA had a plan to control the Syria in few monthes.
Dear Amal , We had the same Golden Calf in Iran many times ,but fortunately with awareness of people they were neutralized also we had 8 years war against them.

If the people of Syria have unity against enemy ,be sure that USA can't do anything. This is what God promise in Holy Koran.

God bless Syria
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Only God Is Right!

Post by behnam » Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:09 am

Hi friends,

First, sincerely speaking, I'd like to take this ideal opportunity to thank Amal for presenting a great challenge to us. I'd like to thank my dear friend and brother Mohsen for making good points and illustrating them perfectly. I'd like to express my special thanks for my dear friend Kamelia for her positive words and encouragement. Thank you very much indeed.

In many cases, when I am writing something, I imagine myself standing on the top of a high mountain, speaking to all people in the world, although the post is maybe addressed to a friend! Sometimes, a name is just an excuse to start doing something! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Although the recent challenge in the thread has posed by my dear friend Amal's reply to a post, I really think of it as a golden opportunity to write about some issues. Therefore, those were(and are) my beliefs, thoughts, ideas, opinions, either my dear friend Amal had triggered the alarm or not! {-: :lol:

We must know, these ideological and philosophical differences which provoke challenges and debates, have been among people throughout the history of human being. Therefore, we are not the first people who debate such issues. {-:

These days, there are two dominant philosophies in the world; Islamic philosophy and Materialist Philosophy! These philosophies have got similarities as well as differences. An individual must be expert at both, in order to compare them, noticing all aspects. As you know, I know a little bit Physics and the meaning of some words in English. In other words, philosophy is beyond the reach of me. However, some differences between two philosophies are realizable, even to ordinary people like me! {-:

One of the main differences between them is that Islamic Philosophy is God-centered, whereas Materialist Philosophy is Human-centered(humanistic). This is a big difference. In the first one, what God says is right, but in the second one what human says is right!

For example, In the Islamic philosophy, gay marriage is forbidden even though the vast majority of people vote for it! Drinking alcoholic drinks is forbidden, even though all people agree with it. Out of marriage sex is forbidden, even though all people go with it! ...These are some fixed rules. People cannot change them. In the holy Koran, God speaks negatively about the tribe(Lut) who used to enjoy gay marriage. They ignored their messenger's advice.God destroyed the city completely, after their insistence on the sin.

In an Islamic nation, there are fixed rules and changeable rules. People can vote for changeable rules, but fixed rules cannot be put to the vote.

The main purpose of this written is to mention that an Islamic society cannot be one hundred percent democratic! Fixed rules cannot be put to a vote. In addition to that, lawmakers are not free to make laws against our religious book; the holy Koran.

People are sometimes right, but not always. Therefore, in order to be always on the right side, we must follow God's advice which is said clearly in the holy Koran!

I am absolutely certain that what God says in the holy Koran is right. Despite all the majesty, the beauty, the simplicity, the advantage, the technological improvement, etc. of Materialist Philosophy, it will end in failure. It seems unbelievable, but God loves to act unbelievably! :lol: :lol: :lol:

It should be kept in mind that almost in all cases, human beings suffer the consequences of their own actions, deeds, beliefs, etc. To put it simply, God is not standing somewhere scowling, with a long stick in his hand, waiting in ambush, to hit a sinner on the head! This is not his way of punishing. He has set some rules in the entire universe. He has sent 124000 messengers to illustrate those rules. If someone follows the rules, s/he is successful, if not s/he results in failure. We should also bear in mind that Islamic nations will end in failure too, if they don't obey God's rules sincerely, because 'Actions speak louder than words'. In other words, hiding under word is useless, since God is wise, we cannot fool him and break his rules!

Thank you for reading.

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Hi Yan

Post by Moroo » Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:08 am

Hi Yan, how are you? , and how is china :-)

Welcome to this beautiful thread :-)

I like your country ,and I'm Observing it ,I'm always keep China in my mind ,thinking how your country become like that with this huge population :~: ,is that because of good management .

mmm I think the management ,I always believe in management I believe that everything because of management.

And if China become like that because of management, do you think it depends on a person or a system, in other word if the boss had changed the country will keep going forward .

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Re: Let's learn together!

Post by Elham » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:49 pm

Hi dear Behnam, Amal and mohsen,

I'm writing this post to tell you I'm following your wonderful posts.You know, I always look forward to such hot discussions in thread. I'm enjoying it, thanks. Actually I'm learning through your posts.

Thank you Amal for expressing your opinions, I do understand your worry and concerns about your people. Nobody wants people to be killed innocently. I have the same concern as you dear.
This question always bothered me that why many solders are killed in a fight between two kings or a war between countries. During 8-year-war between Iran and Iraq a great number of our men, women and children were killed. I always ask why? why? why?It was too hard for me to accept and digest it, yet it is!

But I have learned to bring sth into my consideration! We have to recognize what is more important, what we are living for! Our lives or our values and beliefs?
I know, sometimes many innocent people are killed just because of decision of two silly groups who fight for kingdom, for their own benefits, that is really sad and not acceptable. Thank god, we believe in the other world and judgement day and it calms us that there is a fare God who knows and sees everything.

On the other hand, sometimes if we wanna take people's side we are giving this chance to enemy to win! Yes, if the righteousness could win without any blood poured, we all were happy and satisfied! Alas, it's not possible! :-( In order to defend our beliefs, our religion, our country, our family.... we need to sacrifice our lives. As a wife, I love my husband but when it's time that he goes and fights, it's my duty to encourage him and revive his strength to attend the battle courageously. I have to sacrifice my love and my desires so that my belief wins. Oh, what brave women we've had in our history who have given hope and strengthened their husbands and sons to be a lion and fight bravely! If they wanted to sit and weep and keep their beloved ones at home, what would happen?

Honey, I do understand you and I strongly disapprove of killing poor people for silly desires but what comes to my mind is that to let the righteousness win, however many people are killed is worth!

Dear please express your ideas and say whatever bothers you. I know you and your people are in a very hard situation, I know honey. Enshaaallah " HAGH" will win. Nobody wants this sad situation to continue. May god help you*

Dear Behnam, thank you very much for your great posts and comments. As always, informative, strong , wise and thoughtful. I do enjoy them. :-)

Dear Mohsen, thank you very much for your great post. Who has said that people are always right and we have to take their side? You had beautifully pointed this. :-)

All the best,
Eli

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Syria... What is really going on

Post by WiLZiN » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:42 pm

Dear friends...

I'll tell you what is really going on in Syria:

1- From 2000 to 2010 Syria had a good shift in all domains and had a strong alliance with "Hezb Allah" and Islamic Republic of Iran. In 2003 Syria was against the occupation of Iraq and supported the national resistance there. Since that time the conspiracy against Syria is on.
2- In 2006 Israeli Crusader Zionist Masonic alliance tried to break "Hezb Allah" but the Syrian-Iranian support prevent that. Here the Global Arrogance alliance began to be more and more hateful on Syria.
3- In 2011 the Global Arrogance alliance began to put the final steps to start the revenge from Syria by buying the loyalty of many news networks around the world, severe sheikhs, humanitarian and human rights organizations, political and military analysts and experts, some of the Arab countries which are mortgaged to the West, traitor officers in Syria, and many other tools to achieve the success of their plans.
4- In 15 march 2011 the conspiracy on Syria "the revenge" started with a virtual popular motion, and the target of it was deception the world that the "Arab Spring" arrived to Syria spontaneously.
5- Some of the traitor officers in Syria had to do many purposed mistakes in the same time with the external incitement. The Simpleton protesters didn't understand what was happened, and some of the spies began to do criminal acts as burning state institutions, killing on both sides "protesters and police", request external intervention, and Asking to armed the insulation protesters.
6- After 3 months the systematic sabotage had begone in Syria under the name of "Revolution" with a slogan "Freedom... peaceful" but it wasn't. The Syrian "Regime" offered many repairs and did allot of them but the foreign opposition didn't accepted them and asked to establishment a external government.
7- At that time the whole world was Interfered and the both two axes "the Eastern and the Western". the Eastern ax stood in the side of The Syrian "Regime" and the Western ax stood in the side of The "Revolution" then the situation in Syria turned to indirect international war.
8- Terrorists entered on-line under the name of "Jihad" and they wanted to establish an Islamic emirates inside Syria, and for that target they did everything to encourage young people to "jihad". Mermaids of paradise, pleasure marriage, and more temptations had used for marketing the idea of "Jihad" in Syria.
9- The Western ax headlined the crisis in Syria as a overthrow of President Al-Assad and his "Regime" because he is the head of the Objection of Western schemes in the region and if he fall down their schemes will go on and achieve success.
10- The Syrian army found himself face to face with the terrorist groups in many areas in Syria, and they had been sheltering and hiding among civilians. The war was inevitably and in every war there are victims. The war isn't a civil war, it's an axes war. the negotiation is the only solution, but the war is required to strengthen negotiating positions.
11- The Ending of the situation in Syria will determine the features of a new world and new policies and axes in our world so Syria now is the key of ruling the world.

I didn't write my opinion about what is going on and I settled for present events as they are. Thanks for reading and have nice days.
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Re: Let's learn together!

Post by [amal] » Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:24 am

Hi Mohsen,

How are you?

Thanks for your sympathy. I read your post and I agree with you but there are some points which I want to make clear, you said:
Mohsen wrote:
You have written that 'THE PEOPLE SIDE IS THE RIGHT SIDE" but I want to say that it is not always a correct way, because they are not always in the right truck.

the Israel and USA made a Golden Calf ( They called it Freedom and democracy) for Syrian people to deceive them and if many people in Syria follow them it does not present that people side is the right side.
First of all, I want to define what or who I meant by "people", of course I didn't meant those terrorists or who called themselves "rebels", I even didn't meant those people who are with one side against the other... What I meant by 'people', I meant those who care about the country and want nothing but to build and develop it, who doesn't care about changing the government but who just care about living peacefully and protecting the country and keeping it independent, those people who are ready to give everything even their blood to keep their country far away from its enemies! Above that, we can't forget the poor people who want just to live, to find job and to feed their families, those people aren't interested in political matters but sadly those people are the most losers in this war, they have lost their homes, their jobs and their men. They have lost EVERYTHING! :-(

I don't know how would those people be wrong???! I don't know if those people were killed then how the country will continue, by its bad people???!!! Moreover, I don't know if those people were killed then who the president will going to rule on??!!

I don't want freedom, I don't want democracy, and all this are silly words which has no meaning. We were free, we always have been free, noone can enslave the Syrian people. We were always proud of ourselves!

What I want is simple: " ASAD'S ARMY AND TERRORISTS SHOULD STOP FIGHTING AND KILLING PEOPLE, THEY SHOULD FIND A WAY TO DISCUSS TOGETHER TO END THIS MATTER PEACEFULLY AND THEN BE UNITED AND FIGHT OUR REAL ENEMY.".

Mohsen wrote:
I don't want to confirm Asad as a perfect man ,
My idea is that each side that supported by USA is the black side , so it is better to accept Asad at present and leave your gray side and be sure that it is the right truck.
Yes exactly, For now, I am with this idea, this is almost the right side.
However, Asad is OK but not perfect. To say the truth, I am 55% with his side, for sure he is better than who will come after him BUT killing matter doesn't let me give him my full trust. :-|

Thanks for reading and your care.

Best wishes,

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Post by Kamelia » Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:12 pm

How are you? My God, what a coincidence! I just realized that there is a slight relationship between the picture I had chosen and what you just wrote, or you wrote! I really did not mean to ironically put my message, so to speak. I chose it because I felt like I could sympathize with the picture LOL

Anyways, dear Mohsen, you wrote about people's lack of knowledge of their background culture. It is hard to open the discussion like this, but I guess you explained the whole matter in paragraphs just well.

I was thinking that the main problem might be as you said. That people in some cultures are unaware of their background culture or...there is an or here that I like to add, or they do not like it, that is why they try to mimic other people from other countries. But you were talking about our people that some just do as Westerns do and that is why you say they have forgot our culture.

You know what Mohsen? I was just thinking that maybe us...our culture, our people, do try to force everything in our young generations' mind. We do hurt them, make fun of their styles and ALWAYS try to tell them that everything beyond our boundaries is so wrong! I was not tyring to say that our parents are WRONG...I am just saying that maybe if we could reform the ways we try to teach and raise our kids and maybe if we could try to open our eyes and see the good sides then our children would stick to our culture and reconciliate with our values and traditions. Maybe they try to find all the good things we are trying to teach them forcily, maybe they learn them so deliberately! Hmmm? :?:

Maybe you disagree with me or even reproach me for having such an idea but believe me, I have seen people trying to make their kids stick to what they themselves believe in just because they think it is right.

Hope to read from you so soon,

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Post by behnam » Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:11 am

[amal] wrote: First of all, I want to define what or who I meant by "people", of course I didn't meant those terrorists or who called themselves "rebels", I even didn't meant those people who are with one side against the other... What I meant by 'people', I meant those who care about the country and want nothing but to build and develop it, who doesn't care about changing the government but who just care about living peacefully and protecting the country and keeping it independent, those people who are ready to give everything even their blood to keep their country far away from its enemies!

Hi Amal,

How are you? I hope all is going well with you. This is my last post about the under discussion issue. Actually, I was waiting for Mohsen's post to see his definition of people, since your post was written to him. However, he is late! I hope he is enjoying his holidays, visiting friends and relatives, walking on the 'Zayanderud' banks which can be really interesting and enjoyable.

I agree with Amal's definition of people, but I am afraid to say that some people don't fall within this definition. Syrian people should have come to the streets-in front of cameras-disagreed with violence, rebels, terrorists, fights, ..killing and destruction. However, they are amazingly coward and strangely silent! I am sorry to say straightforwardly that they are waiting to see which group wins, to congratulate the winner! These people fall into group 'C" in my previous classification. They are neutral. Neutral people are dead. They are not alive. They are useless.

Many photos and video clips show that the terrorists are firing throw holes made on the walls at homes! These houses belong to Syrian people, don't they? Why do they allow the fighters to use their houses as fort?

Qatar let's rebels open an embassy! So funny! This can be the joke of this century. Why do Syrian people keep silent? So called Arab Union gives the seat of Syria to rebels! Why do you remain silent? It is very obvious that the war in Syria is not on democracy; against dictatorship! Are rebels chosen by people? If the answer is no, why are people silent on this subject?

There is only one solution for this conflict. People should come to the streets and protest against the enemies! I called it enemies, you can call it war, fight, violence, killing, etc. Otherwise, a war of attrition will cause many destruction and death.

Some people may die, but that's worth being killed on the streets bravely-rather than at homes cowardly! Everything has its price. Peace and democracy have their prices. Sometimes, blood is needed to be paid for these valuable things.

Syrian people MUST come to the streets and protest against fighters. Otherwise, the enemies will implement their decision.

It seems the majority of Arab people-Syrians are included-follow a famous sentence quoted by a famous person
( الخير في ما وقع). This sentence has developed a useless negative philosophy! A philosophy based on this sentence lets robbers rob your pocket and whispers in your ear 'patience is a virtue' AND things like: ( انّ الله مع الصابرين) or (رتل القرآن ترتيلا). These are said by God in the holy Koran. Yes, they are certainly true, but their application depends on the situations we are in. When there is a war, God is no with neutral people, although they are patience! :lol: :lol: :lol: Recitation of the holy Koran, with a beautiful voice is good, but it cannot be an aim, or a normal action when the country is at war!

Thank you for reading. Sorry for making many msitakes. I have no time to check the post. My nicest friend is waiting for me to have a chat. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I have to leave.


All the best,
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Post by naseh » Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:56 am

Hi Behnam,
How are you? I hope you are fine. I love Iranian people as I do with Syrian citizens.


I donot know how this love came to me or what are the reasons beyond it. I love the two counrties beside Lebanon and Iraq. You can say, it is because of their stand in the line of resistance. I may say that is true even if I have my opinion for these parties which rule thses countries.


someone will say I am a racial man. May be I am. So, could you please tell from where does this item come? May be from Turkey, may be. Or Saudi Arabia and its channels . That is another expectation, I think. However, there is a say which I side with is that Israel and its allies are against that.


It is a joke when you hear the U.S. ambassador last week announces in a press conference that the Iraqi government should say its opinion regarding what he called ' Iranian jets cross the Iraqi air to Syria carrying weapons for Assad's Government.'

I am hopeless and agitated when talking about the critical issue in Syria and also my beloved country Yemen. We have a special opinion upon the foreign policy of U.S.A in the Arab countries and also its League. Not to forget that, what so called Qatar, Turkey, Saudi Arabia are just the hands that implement the policy of U.S. I our region.

God bless and protect you all my friends. I am ready to answer any question requires me to introduce myself. But I think it is better to stay unknown these day. I donot know why but it is my heart's feelings.
All the best,
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Hi Naseh

Post by behnam » Mon Apr 01, 2013 1:09 pm

Hi Naseh,

You made me happy with your post. Welcome back! How are you? I hope you are fine.

You are not a new member, an unknown person. You are our own famous Naseh. {-: Long time no see! Where were you man? You've been absent since last Ramadan. How is life? I hope things are going well with you.

I will be happy to hear regularly from you.


All the best,
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Post by Mohsen » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:12 pm

Dear Amal,

I hope you and your family are fine , I hope people of Syria are in peace .In fact I can't judge about the your situation, because I am far from the scene, I can't make a decision like Syrian. At night sleeping in house in a place in Syria, where the rebels fire the area with mortars, What can her do to protect her life and her family? If she wants to fight against rebels , it is needed to give blood, but giving blood is not easy , does she dare to risk her life ? I don't know if I am in her place what will I do!!
Just Know I can say my idea ,there is proverb that say when the forest catch fire ,Wet and Dry burn together , So if people in this Syria stay neutral ,they will not be immunized ,but burning.
the rebels are attacking the cities, and when government army attacks to rebels'zone,it may some innocence people be killed.

I think the neutral people have the best service to rebels, because the rebels hide themselves between people , and the Syrian army can't attack them and finally the rebels overthrow the government .
This not the end , this is the first step for foreign country who help rebels , the USA army inter the Syrian lands and do like what the have been doing in Iraq and Afghanestan ( till now more than 1000000 people in Iraq have been killed).
Dear Amal , It is not time to think about jobs and home. Your people need unity against enemy, and protest against rebels.Don't let them to come closer to the cities; all people should be mobilized and shot down the rebels.

Yours sincerely
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Post by Mohsen » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:18 pm

Dear Behnam,

Thank you for sharing your posts , thank for your answer to Amal ,the last two days I was working in the office, and today I have gone to a picnic , tomorrow is the nature day in Iran , it is 13th of first month (Farvardin) of spring , because I don't accept the 13th ,today I went on the picnic for the nature day ,I recommend you to have a picnic on 12th day , there is a lot place for parking the car and many more beautiful areas are accessible

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Post by Mohsen » Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:19 pm

Dear Kamelia,
Thank you for you valuable post , I agree with you about the roles of parents. Yes you are right. But when people grow up they should not be a reflection the environment in which they have grown up.
They can restructure their personality , the adults are enough grown up to make decision about what is wrong and what is right.

Good Luck
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Re: Let's learn together!

Post by [amal] » Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:41 am

Hi Moroo,

How are you? How is Egypt today?

I am sorry about my late reply but my mind was busy with other things.
I want to thank you about you your useful advice. These says, I am trying to let my mind decides instead of my heart. I hope the result be good this time! :lol: :roll:

Anyway, let us talk about something else... Emm, maybe music and singers, who is your favorite singer and which type of music do you love to hear? And why?

In Egypt there are a lot of famous singers such as " Om Kolthoum and Abd Alhalem", who had have add a lot of glory to Arabic music, Do you love them?

Hope to hear from you soon.
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Post by [amal] » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:40 am

Hi Mohsen and Behnam,

Thanks for your posts and your care, I said that I was going to write a post about Syria but in fact I changed my mind because I am very angry about the situation here so I don't want to write bad and negative things. :-( I don't want you to be angry from my words..

However, I want to say somethings about Behnam's posts:
behnam wrote:
We should highlight their differences. In order to make the situation complicated and critical,
Dear Behnam, although Syrian people are different and have different religions but that never make us fight or kill each other, we aren't like Lebanon therefore it was hard for the enemy to play this plan and be successful. Therefore, the matter hasn't end yet and has took a lot of time because it's just a propaganda in media. Till now, we all still live together and deal normally with people from different sect..
behnam wrote:
If I were him, I'd leave the family when my younger boy was killed. I don't know. Maybe, I would be able to speak with all members and make all angles clear to them. They might follow my advice. The older boy might change his idea, but how could I tolerate his crime. He is a criminal! If I punished him, it would create another tension. If I didn't punish him, it was against the laws.


I agree with you, in the beginning if the father discus the matter with his kids it may be solved and there was no need to leave!
behnam wrote:
Syrian people should have come to the streets-in front of cameras-disagreed with violence, rebels, terrorists, fights, ..killing and destruction.


I agree 100% with you and this is my idea from the beginning. I believe that we should go to street and say our word even if we were going to die, I think it's better to die proudly with all Syrian people instead of sitting at homes and die one after another in this way we are just numbers but if we were united, we can make a difference! But sadly nobody cares. :-(
*Although, I don't think that anybody will kill us if we went to street in front of cameras.*
behnam wrote:
Many photos and video clips show that the terrorists are firing throw holes made on the walls at homes! These houses belong to Syrian people, don't they? Why do they allow the fighters to use their houses as fort?
How would people prevent them? And the most important question is how does those terrorists enter Syria in the first step???!!! Doesn't the borders suppose to be protected by the cov???!!!

Thanks for reading.

Best wishes,
Amal

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Re: Let's learn together!

Post by [amal] » Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:42 am

[amal] wrote:Hi Mohsen and Behnam,

Thanks for your posts and your care, I said that I was going to write a post about Syria but in fact I changed my mind because I am very angry about the situation here so I don't want to write bad and negative things. :-( I don't want you to be angry from my words and my bad manner..

However, I want to say somethings about Behnam's posts:
behnam wrote:
We should highlight their differences. In order to make the situation complicated and critical,
Dear Behnam, although Syrian people are different and have different religions but that never make us fight or kill each other, we aren't like Lebanon therefore it was hard for the enemy to play this plan and be successful. Therefore, the matter hasn't end yet and has took a lot of time because it's just a propaganda in media. Till now, we all still live together and deal normally with people from different sect..
behnam wrote:
If I were him, I'd leave the family when my younger boy was killed. I don't know. Maybe, I would be able to speak with all members and make all angles clear to them. They might follow my advice. The older boy might change his idea, but how could I tolerate his crime. He is a criminal! If I punished him, it would create another tension. If I didn't punish him, it was against the laws.


I agree with you, in the beginning if the father discus the matter with his kids it may be solved and there was no need to leave!
behnam wrote:
Syrian people should have come to the streets-in front of cameras-disagreed with violence, rebels, terrorists, fights, ..killing and destruction.


I agree 100% with you and this is my idea from the beginning. I believe that we should go to street and say our word even if we were going to die, I think it's better to die proudly with all Syrian people instead of sitting at homes and die one after another in this way we are just numbers but if we were united, we can make a difference! But sadly nobody cares. :-(
*Although, I don't think that anybody will kill us if we went to street in front of cameras.*
behnam wrote:
Many photos and video clips show that the terrorists are firing throw holes made on the walls at homes! These houses belong to Syrian people, don't they? Why do they allow the fighters to use their houses as fort?
How would people prevent them? And the most important question is how does those terrorists enter Syria in the first step???!!! Doesn't the borders suppose to be protected by the cov???!!!

Thanks for reading.

Best wishes,
Amal

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Hi Amal

Post by Kamelia » Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:57 am

How are you dear kind friend? How is everything with you? I really hope that you are doing so fine.

Dear Amal, I was reading your posts and I thought to pay you some compliments, honest ones :-D
I really adore the way you try to put your ideas forward. You are so brave to spill whatever your think is right and logical on paper. You write with clarity and simplicity while you add possible solutions to the matters ahead, every solution that you can think of. You also seem to be not giving up what you think is right. I honestly do not know if others believe it to be a positive thing, but I sure do! I like tough brave women :-D
Anyways, dear Amal, there is something wrong here. I got some bones to pick up with you dear. I really envy Behnam, Mohsen and Elham since you write to them right away, sure I love you to write to me so soon, I mean who does not? :-D LOOOOL

I was just kidding, I was going to say that I am leaving home today God willing, so I might be away from you and every lovely friend of mine here. I really am going to miss you all.

Hope to read from you so soon,

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Hi Behnam

Post by Kamelia » Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:17 am

How are you doing? I hope you are so fine :-)

Uh I really felt like writing something in here. Tonight I am going to leave home for university. I really am sure that due to the shortage of time in this semester I am going to have such a hard time :-D Not that I am so squeamish not to bear any difficulties, but I got two presentations ahead and a lot of mid-terms! oh God, please help me.

Dear Behnam, I did not find time to write to you so much in these Holidays. Half of it was for the sake of my not having proper subjects, the other half was, honest to God, the lines' problem :-D

Kamelia's digressing in this post too much, she knows :-D But she was just trying to write something to you since she might not be able to write in here for a fairy long time, just "might"! Hope that I really get time and find some internet there :-D

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Re: Let's learn together!

Post by Elham » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:27 pm

Hi dear Kami,

I want to thank you for your holiday presence here. You know that I sincerely mean it when I say I really enjoy your posts and words. Hope you have had a relaxing time at home and now you are energetic for your univ life ahead.

Love you and wish the best for you,

Warmly,
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Post by Elham » Fri Apr 05, 2013 3:30 pm

My dear Amal,

Actually, I don't remember when we have talked last time. I miss you and I have no news from you. :-(

Where are you honey? What are you doing? Is everything alright there? YOU had written you are about to decide about sth very important! Hope you have made the right one honey. I always pray for you my caring lovely friend.

Love you,

Kiss
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Post by Mohsen » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:02 pm

Hi Amal ,
As I told you I can't judge the situation , I won't be angry to read your words , Syria is your country and you have right to have your idea about the situation which is exist in it.
I hope I didn't make you angry, and hear from you as soon as possible.
I think that some countries which are called developed countries would not like to see the other countries developed. It is like the time when people were living in a classified society , the poor never should go to aristocrat class. The Poor should be poor forever and aristocrat should remain aristocrat. A developing country which resist this policy will be punished.
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Post by Mohsen » Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:07 pm

Hi Kamelia,

I wish your success in university and wherever you go , hope to hear from you sooner than the next holiday.

B.Wishes

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Re: Let's learn together!

Post by [amal] » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:50 am

Hi my Iranian friends,

How are you?

I am very worried about you, please write something here and let me know that you and your families are OK! I read on the net that an earthquake hit Iran. :-( :-( :-(
I hope everything is OK.

May god keep you save and healthy.
Best wishes,
Amal

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Re: Let's learn together!

Post by [amal] » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:51 am

Hi my Iranian friends,

How are you?

I am very worried about you, please write something here and let me know that you and your families are OK! I read on the net that an earthquake hit Iran. :-( :-( :-(
I hope everything is OK.

May god keep you save and healthy.
Best wishes,
Amal

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Re: Let's learn together!

Post by [amal] » Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:05 am

Sorry: May god keep you *Safe
and I want to apologize, I don't know why there is two same posts, maybe it's because of the bad net.

Wish you the best..

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