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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Mohsen » Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:17 pm

Hi Friends,
Once a ship got caught in a violent storm. It wreaked havoc and the waves cast its wrecks on the sands of the shore. Among them was a sailor who lay senseless on the beach. When he came to his senses, he cursed the sea saying, "The Sea is a cheat indeed. It attracts people with its cool and calm waters and once they are in its grip, it turns furious and destroys them."

Hearing his reproach, the sea felt pinched. But it didn't want to trouble the sailor anymore. So, it came to the sailor in form of a damsel.

"Who are you, O lovely lady?" asked the sailor.

"I am the sea and am as lovely as you see me now. You are blaming me for the wreck but it isn't just." Surprised, the sailor asked, "Who is just then?"

The sea urged, "The wreck was caused by the cruel winds that blew into gusts and gales over me and created stormy waves in my calm waters."

The sailor had nothing to say except feeling sorry for blaming the sea.


Almost all unhappiness in life comes from the tendency to blame someone else. - Brian Tracey

Are the Dzhokar Tsarnaev and Tamerlan Tsarnaev reponsible for Boston explosion .
They were from USA , originally they were from Chechen, They had no interest in Islam ,the had no faith, the were good cases for doing a new plan and making a new story against Muslims.

What people do for money ,when their minds washed by Zionists.
Are the USA people believe what the USA media are telling them !!!!


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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Mohsen » Sun Apr 21, 2013 2:41 pm

Hi Friends,
I heared the voice of their mother from the news, she claimed that her childern were under the FBI control for many years, they couldn't even take one step without police eyes.
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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby naseh » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:16 am

Hi Dr. Behnam:

You news regarding being the forth among 300 students was for me another Iranian quake.
I think the quake came just as a result of the that news. Earthquakes come because of reasons. so, that news was another quake and made me instead of asking about your live to write to congratulate you!

Dear Dr., Forgive me for my late responses. I have tried many times to post here and suddenly fail. I don't know why?

Please accecpt my latest congrats on the occasion of your success! I kept it late on purpose. I want you to feel that your success is our success as a whole Ummah. You know what? If I was about to congratulate you with people, may be you will be happy for some moments then you will forget your great success. But I want you to stay feeling it longer and know that people are proud of your great achievement!

God bless you,
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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Elham » Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:27 pm

Defensive

If someone is defensive, the person feels criticized and quickly tries to explain.

Example:

Don't be defensive; I just asked why you didn't vote!

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8 Qualities of Successful Person

Postby behnam » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:25 am

8 Qualities of Successful Person

1. Burning Desire
The motivation to succeed comes from the burning desire to achieve a purpose. Napoleon Hill wrote, "Whatever the mind of man can conceive and believe, the mind can achieve." A burning desire is the starting point of all accomplishment. Just like a small fire cannot give much heat, a weak desire cannot produce great results.

2. Commitment
Integrity and wisdom are the two pillars on which to build and keep commitments. This point is best illustrated by the manager who told one of his staff members, "Integrity is keeping your commitment even if you lose money and wisdom is not to make such foolish commitments."

3. Responsibility
People with character accept responsibilities. They make decisions and determine their own destiny in life. Accepting responsibilities involves taking risks and being accountable which is sometimes uncomfortable.Responsible people don't think that the world owes them a living.

4. Hard work
Success is not something that you run into by accident. It takes a lot of preparation and character. Everyone likes to win but how many are willing to put in the effort and lime to prepare to win? It takes sacrifice and self-discipline. There is no substitute for hard work.

5. Character
Character is the sum total of a person's values, beliefs and personality. It is reflected in our behavior, in our actions. It needs to be preserved more than the richest jewel in the world. To be a winner takes character. George Washington said, "I hope I shall always possess firmness and virtue enough to maintain what I consider the most valuable of all titles, the character of an honest man."

6. Positive believing/Thinking
Positive believing is a lot more than positive thinking. It is having a reason to believe that positive thinking will work. Positive believing is an attitude of confidence that comes with preparation. Having a positive attitude without making the effort is nothing more than having a wishful dream.

7. The Power of persistence
The journey to being your best is not easy. It is full of setbacks. Winners have the ability to overcome.Persistence means commitment and determination. There is pleasure in endurance. Commitment and persistence is a decision. Athletes put in years of practice for a few seconds or minutes of performance.
Persistence is a decision. It is a commitment to finish what you start. When we are exhausted, quitting, looks good. But winners endure. Ask a winning athlete. He endures pain and finishes what he started. Lots of failures have begun well but have not concluded anything. Persistence comes from purpose. Life without purpose is drifting. A person who has no purpose will never persevere and will never be fulfilled.


8. Pride of performance
In today's world, pride in performance has fallen by the wayside because it requires effort and hard work. However, nothing happens unless it is made to happen. When one is discouraged, it is easy to look for shortcuts. However these should be avoided no matter how great the temptation. Pride comes from within, which is what gives the winning edge.
Pride of performance does not represent ego. It represents pleasure with humility.

The quality of the work and the quality and the worker are inseparable. Half-hearted effort does not produce half results; it produces no results.
Excellence comes when the performer takes pride in doing his best. Every job is a self-portrait of the person who does it, regardless of what the job is, whether washing cars, sweeping the floor or painting a house.


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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Maniya » Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:27 am

hi Behnam.
I want to know In English, what was the secret to your success? :~:
You are fluent in English so good. {-:
I really can not speak English in public. :oops:
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Welcome Maniya

Postby behnam » Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:42 am

Hi Maniya,

First of all, I'd like to say a warm welcome to you. Welcome to this thread! Thank you for joining us.

You've considered me a successful person in English, and you've said that my English is fluent! Thank you very much for paying some nice compliments. That's very kind and generous of you. However, I am an English learner. My English is neither good nor bad. I just can pull my own weigh! In chat rooms, I have no difficulty in making conversation with people, but I am not fluent at speaking.

About six years ago, when I started to learn the English language seriously, some friends of me used to ask me for the goal of learning English. They used to ask, "Behnam, what's your ultimate goal of learning English?" Once I answered, "A good action doesn't need any motivation or goal. It is a goal itself."

I planted a tree 6 years ago. I've been watering it(looking after it) for 6 years. I can easily say that at least 4 hours a day I've practised different English skills; listening, speaking, reading, and writing. I took every single opportunity to improve my skills and abilities in English. I spent a lot of money, energy, time on it. Some people wrongly think that learning English is easy. On TV, for example, sometimes I see some funny advertisements claiming to to teach English(the to learn it) in 10 sessions, in one month! I often laugh at those advertisements and at people who believe such ridiculous things. Learning a new language is a lifelong process.

After 6 years, in PhD entrance exam, I picked the fruits of that tree! People who are learning a new language must be patient. I believe patience is one of the most important factors in achieving our goals. Obviously, patience plus hard working result in success. Some people are patient, but do nothing. Therefore, it is necessary to be determined, patient and hard working when learning English.

In order to speak in public places, you need to have self confidence. Being confident about your ability is extremely important. Try it, little by little you will gain enough self confidence to speak in public. Don't worry about making mistakes. Even native speakers make mistakes. Try to learn from your mistakes. If we don't make mistakes, we learn nothing.

I have to leave right now. I will write about this topic again.

Please write more about yourself.

All the best,
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Hiiii Mohsen

Postby Kamelia » Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:18 pm

How are you doing? I hope everything is going on very well with you and your lovely family.
Oh come on! You do not mean that you were provoking me to prove you THAT! LOOL

Anyhow, you succeeded, what comes next? :-D You did me the favor to put more time and write more often, half kidding actually :-D Since I am a bit freer in this time of the year so...

Never mind about Muses stuff, so let's seeeee....your house was quite a dreamy old one! An old mansion with arch roofs and so on :-o that must have been so interesting for you as a a child to wonder and search about the house. I am thinking that children in those eras (not that you are an old man, in no sense :-D ) had much more fun because everything they needed as to serve their curious consciences were already provided by the lovely big house :-D

Thank you so much for telling me about it. You know what made me ask you that? In the Noruz Holidays that we just passed I used to watch documentaries about Persian ancient styles of houses with the gorgeously beautiful architectural design then I kept wondering who could I ask more about it. Oh and most of the houses belonged to Esfahan, Yazd and Shiraz!

So thank you again for making time to write to me about it,

Hope to read from you so soon,

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby naseh » Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:41 pm

Hi friends,
How are you all? I have to tell about something very important for me and you . Of course, it means I need your help.

This is to let you know, I am going to present my presentation at the college tomorrow morning . My university subject's name is "Practical Research Methods. "

In this subject, our Dr. choose a topic for every student. Then, according to the time and the day you have chosen, you have to stand to perform your topic in front of your doctor and the whole class and according to your performance you can get your marks .

My topic for Monday is about "Participant Observation. " It is very short. but very important for every researcher. It is of two parts, the first one is direct observation. and the second is participant observation.

Participant observation is of two types: openly and secretly participation.

I want your opinions about this topic. It does not matter what it is, just write something you know about the topic .Also, I want to hear those graduated students who have well knowledge and enough experience.

I have gathered enough information and many videos as an example for these two types of observation. One is about an American citizen who have been in Yemen for long time. He is studying Arabic language. He is an example of participant observation who tried to immerse himself in the Yemeni society to know more about their behaviours, habits, and customs. He has entered Islam. But it is indicated from his speech that he is doing a secret research.
The second video is about a British citizen. An Arabic Tv have met him at the street of Old Sanaa. He was chewing Qat as yemenis do. He speaks Arabic good. He is an example of direct observation because he is a joournalist. and trying to gather news. Therefore, no need to immerse him sled in the Yemeni society . I was shocked when I saw this video. This British man was my friend. I have met him alot during the first days of Yemeni revolution. He is a journalist. He worked as an editor for a local English newspaper, Yemen Times, and at the same time was working for the British newspaper, the guardian. His name is Tom Finn.
I hope I can hear from you so soon so that you can enrich my topic. I am going to write to you as soon as I finish my presentation and get access to internet.

Yours,
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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Maniya » Sun Apr 28, 2013 8:17 am

good for you Behnam.
I try to speak English and use it in every day conversation but so difficult when you are not in enviroment .because of that You forget so easy.
for example I have a lot of problem in my grammer and I need someone to correct my mistakes Just do not look at me.
I start learning English about two years ago when I was 16.(Safir Language Academic)
my father is upset that I can not speak English during these two years.
It is close to the June exams and this year I have a university entrance exam.
My mind is too involved and I do not know what to do.
:oops: }:
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How can we correct ourselves?

Postby behnam » Sun Apr 28, 2013 1:53 pm

Hi Maniya,

Many thanks for your reply. Safir institute has knowledgeable teachers. After finishing all courses in Kish institute, I went to Safir institute and took part in IELTS skills courses; listening, speaking, reading, and writing. The courses were really useful.

There is a saying in English, 'if you don't use it, lose it'! It comes true when we consider learning a new language. It is the same for all learners.

Obviously, when writing and speaking, we put some words beside together to make a sentence. We must know that putting words randomly beside together hardly creates a correct meaningful sentence. In making conversations structurally correct sentences are necessary. In other words, knowing grammatical rules is important in making effective conversations. There are many methods to learn English grammar. Self-correction is one of the most effective methods. How can we correct ourselves?

When putting words beside together we must care about some rules. In order to make it clear, let me give you an example from your own post:
Maniya wrote: I start learning English about two years ago when I was 16.(Safir Language Academic) my father is upset that I can not speak English during these two years.


These two sentences are written wisely. The first sentence indirectly mentions to your age. It says that you are 18 now! As you know, making conversations and communications in English is one of the main purposes of learning the English language. The conversation has been made perfectly, since I understood what you meant. However, you may intend to improve your grammar. You can do it-to a great extent- by self-correction, but how?

In the first sentence, you are speaking about something which was done in the past. So the tense of verb must be in past simple. Therefore, It must be 'I started learning English about two years ago.' You can ask yourself, which of the following sentences is correct and why?:


a) I started to learn English two years ago.
b) I started learning English two years ago.


Then you refer to some reference books and see that they are a little bit different, but for this case both can be used. When we say 'I stop(start) to smoke', the action isn't done before stopping. In other words, the action will be done after stopping(starting). However, when we say 'I stop(start) smoking', we are doing the action(smoking in this case).

In the second sentence, your father is upset because of something, so that's better to use 'because' instead of 'that'. Plus, 'can not' is a common mistake. It must be 'cannot'. In addition to these minor mistakes, 'during these two years' doesn't make sense. I guess you mean something like this:


Despite taking part in some courses and practising English for two years, I still cannot speak English well, and this has made my father disappointed in me. Or, ...and this has made my father angry with me!

When we use 'during these two years' we emphasis on the duration of time that the action has been done. In the second sentence, you are, actually, complaining about dissatisfaction with your spoken English. Speaking is considered as the result of your learning. In other words, your father expects you to speak quite well now. Therefore, it is incorrect to use 'during these two years' for this purpose!


I don't mean to correct you. What I am saying is that by spending some time on the structures and considering other possible options we can both correct ourselves, write more effectively and beautifully.

I hope that helps!

All the best,
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Hi Naseh

Postby Kamelia » Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:32 pm

How are you dear friend? I guess I never got the chance to write to you. This is my first time and it is a little bit hard to start the posting since answering your post is a little bit difficult.

So I see you got a presentation. Tell you what? I guess most of my friends from Iran here are too much familiar with the presentations, or at least guys my age!
These lectures have become a routine way of achieving grades in Universities nowadays and they are really good BUT....only if they are presented in a very articulate professional way! Not by a sleepy tired student trying to finish it as soon as s/he can! Do you see what I mean? :-D

Oh I passed research methodology course about two years ago. I new almost all the subjects by heart but unfortunately I never even heard of participant observation or maybe I was not as good at it as I thought I was! :-D

Could I ask you something? What is your major?

Hope to read from you so soon,

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Hi Maniya

Postby Kamelia » Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:43 pm

How are you doing dear friend? How is everything going on?

Dear Maniya, I read your post and then dear Behnam's post to you. I was thinking that what I could help you with as an English learner. I am not a very good adviser but there are some stuff which I faced when I was your age and learning English.
Actually I remember my first and worst problem was that why could not I learn which propositions go with which verb! Next problem, why could not I speak fluently and stop pausing after each word I used? You see? There was a lot to go. I could not even write properly! What I thought was that I could NEVER learn them, like really hell NEVER!

Now, I am not as educated or as experienced as Behnam is in teaching or in English but I know something. You are never going to learn a language unless you give yourself SOME TIME! Try to level with your father that in two years you are not going to be a professional BBC news reporter! You see what I am trying to say?

Oh and something else, more than trying to speak, LISTEN! Listen to everything English that is available! Listen and then repeat them to yourself.

It is funny but I had a very fluent teacher in speaking who told me that he used to talk to himself! Alone! He used to bring up a subject for himself so then he thought about it and tried to discuss with himself. This seems a very easy way, right? Because we think of too many stuff everyday and then if we could just spit them out in English, miracles would happen!

Best of Luck dear

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Hi Behnam

Postby Kamelia » Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:49 pm

How are you dr? :-D Long time and no posts to you made me miss you so I am finding a little excuse to write to you here.

I was reading your post to Maniya. I still cannot express how much I liked it. You advise people greatly without even making them feel like you are a very knowledgeable person to whom they HAVE to pay much respect, do you see what I am trying to say? No pompous airs! While you ARE that great person!

I always look carefully to learn new tips and hints from you. Thank you for being so inspiring :-)

Hope to read so soon from you,

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby naseh » Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:55 pm

Hi Kamelia,
How do you do? I am glad to know you. Please let's start a new page of friendship. I know only more about Behnam. So I am going to take the chance.


Thanks a million for writing to me even if my writings were broken. Since language is way of communication so it doesnot matter. In my opinion, nowadays, those who write free writings are better than those who write formal writnings. I think those mistakes are the one and only which can attract the attention of the reader. What does matter is the idea. If you have an idea and some rules that make you convey it in an understandable way.

Once again, thanks for sharing me your experience. Oh my God, sorry! Take it easy if I said you asked me a question I am tring not to answer. So, it is an obligation for me to answer since it is your first question. My major is Translation plus ..!
I hope to know more about you.

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Maniya » Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:42 am

Dear Behnam &Kamelia
I am grateful for your helpful instruction to improve my language
but I think I can never be like you. }:
You and the other member are very good at talking. {-:
I like successful people in their life and trying to be one of them :oops: .I think Behnam is one of that successful people Who makes life so much attention. ;-)

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Hi Maniya

Postby naseh » Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:18 pm

How do you do? I am glad to know you! Have a big shout for joining this thread! I am happy to know the forth Iranian Friend. I know only the female ones, Mohsen and Behnam. But my beloved ones, Kamelia and you, I am sorry if I say I know not your gender. Fact must be siad, I have problem in recognizing names whether is it male of female. Since I think there is no rule in the English language to allow you to distinguish genders.

In Arabic, my mother-tongue, I can recognize a person through knowing his name. However, I suffer nowadays from a phenomenon of westernization of Arabic Names. For example, I know the old-male name 'Ahmed, Mohammed, Ali, Hassan', but couldn't recognize these recent names as : ' Barakat, Alawi, Faten, Sa'aoud', though these names are Arabic. The reason is that in every Yemeni area, some name a woman as "Barakat" and the others name a man as "Barakat", depending on the culture of each area. I don't know if there is scientist who can manage this problem.

Your English is very good since you are studying English at an institute. If I am going to compare your English with mine, as a university-student of English, it will be shameful on me. I am not flattering with you. This is what I see. Dr. Behnam has a good experience in struggling to get the language.

For me, I was studing English at an institute.I think, it is nothing if we compare the institute's syllabus with the university's curriculum. That is to say, academic teaching is the real teaching. Of course, there is something its name is "Distance Learning" that makes us rich of enrolling universities. In my opinion, universities are like paper-books during E-books. Paper- books has its beauty and characters.

That's it!!!

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Dear Friends

Postby naseh » Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:09 pm

Today, Our doctor was absent of his lecture. I was so nervous all night till I dreamed that I was doing my presentation in front of my doctor. It was hard for me since I saw myself nervous. I think that is a natural feeling every one have it if s/he is about to do something for the first time publicly, except some.

Now, I have lost that feeling. I am now comfortable. I have decided not to do it again. I hate doing things again. However, I love doing things again in one condition, that is if I fail doing it. So, since I didn't fail doing it, I am going to delay it or choose another topic while I hate alot being fail. I know failure is a friend of successful people but I hate it in my studying.

Of course, every one want to be the first one in everything. Every one want to achieve his goals in order to help his parents and his country. Sometimes I get some laziness. For one year or more, I have been addicting with Facebook. I spend more than 8 hours each day. Please pray for me to get rid of facebook. I spend most of time in politics. This is what made me leave this thread since I was active member in every thread that Behnam was trying to build. He was moving from one site to another untill he has stayed here. He was leaving those sites for some reasons. Anyway, I do love his obstinacy.


To conclude, everyone need to be stubborn in getting his rights and achieving his goals. I think it is the one and only tool that allow us to achieve what we want otherwise we may be eaten by others. We have a proverb in Arabic "كن ذئباً والا اكلتك الذئاب", its translation is:' Be a wolf, otherwise you will be eaten by other wolfs"

That's it!!!

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Elham » Mon Apr 29, 2013 5:36 pm

Dear Kami,

Happy to see you here these days. I check the posts everyday, I really want to write, a looooooot, but I don't know why I don't feel like writing. I've really missed writing long energetic posts.

I'm sorry for being late to reply to your post and questions you had asked me about poem! Honey I love to write about this topic, but I prefer to do this while I'm in a poetic mood!haha :-)

There are times when I get terribly poetic and feel deeply in love! In love with what? Emmmm, different things, different persons.... I love those times,.............

Oh Kami I do love to write about this topic aloooooooot, alooooooooooooot, I miss writing.... but I don't know what's wrong with me...... ~.....

You know, There are bothering thoughts preventing me...

Kami? What has been your biggest loss in life? What's the worst feeling you've ever experienced? If you could change one thing in your life, what would it be?
What do you think is the saddest thing you may experience?

Oh sorry Kami, I was supposed to answer your questions not to ask!

Emmm........ busy mind.... sorryyyyyyyyy

Hope to write to you in a better mood soon,
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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Maniya » Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:26 pm

dear Naseh
that is kind of you.thanks a lot. :-(
I,m female.
i am so glad to be one of your Iranian friend. ;-)
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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby mattyppz » Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:12 am

Always try to stress doing writing assignments!!! Best Advise I can give any educator.

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