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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby melancrow » Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:07 am

Hi Behnam,

So you can see we are not the same!
Not only the words, but also the way man speaks has its own meaning. The ways can be so different that it may lead to some misunderstanding. In a live talk we use much more powrful and effective tool - body language, which is mimicry, gesture, eye expression, pose, tone of voice, etc. When we write, we use very poor, limited set - set of words. Don't overestimate word - it is a perfect instrument to confuse and decieve, but it very seldom let people come to agreement and understanding.

Must go. Continue later.

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Mohsen » Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:13 pm

Dear Behnam,

We, Andrew and me discussed about role of gold among the people. A gold sometimes is a piece of love and sometime it is a chain (obstacle). You know that when people marry, they wear gold rings, They love each other while they loss their freedom . off course it is not true for every body. What do you think ,does the gold confines people ?

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby behnam » Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:01 am


Hi Mohsen,

Thanks for explanation.

Gold is considered as one of the valuable metals in the world. I personally don't know why it is valuable. How is it valued? Who has valued it? Is there something special in gold?

Well, as far as technology is concerned, gold is used in coating some electronic and optoelectronic elements.

From medical science point's of view, gold is harmful to men.However, it is beneficial to women's health to wear gold jewelry.

Although-as I mentioned-gold has some advantages, its value isn't because of those properties. I guess its value comes from an agreement among countries. How do you think?

About your question, concerning the confines gold brings to men, I appreciate your view, but I believe in something more than limitation which gold imposes on poor men! I'd like not to sound pessimistic or be against women's rights, but in my opinion-IN IRAN-gold has brought a new shape of slavery! In this strange phenomenon, men are slaves and women are their owners. You'd understand what I mean if you think for the answer of this question:

Let's assume that there are unhappy modern spouses(a husband and a wife belong to new generation I mean). For some unknown reasons,they are always fighting with each other. The question is this: In order to get rid of her, is it easy(beneficial) for men either to kill his wife or divorce her? Consider paying her rights according to Islamic-Iranian laws and rules! :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm in a hurry, have to leave.

All the best,
Behnam, 1 February, 2012


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Without dreams we are dead!!!

Postby Elham » Wed Feb 01, 2012 6:42 am

Hi dear Amal,

Today I'm going to ask questions I had never asked you before!

I want you to write about your dreams! What were your childhood dreams? How would you see your future when you were a child ? How many of your wishes in life has come true? How close this Amal,now, is to Amal you expected yourself to be?

Which event of your life has been the most effective one and has caused noticable diffrences in your life or personality?

And what are your current dreams and wishes? How is your ideal life and personality?

I'm looking forward to hearing from you on this topic.....


Best wishes,
Elham


P.S. I would appreciate other friend's opinions and answers.I'd love to hear about your old and new dreams*

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It's raining!!!!!!!!

Postby [amal] » Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:16 am

Hi Elham,

How are you?

Thanks for this interesting topic. In fact, I was very busy thinking iabout it and didn't realize that it's RAINING outside!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You know how much I love rain, so now I am busy with watching it. Therefore, please Elham, forgive me I will delay writing about my dreams cause I am watching one right now. ;-) :-) The rain, Kasun mountain and Fauruz songs, What a wonderful view and a wounderful moment!

I promise to write sooooon.
Take care
Bye

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby behnam » Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:50 am


Hi my friends,

This is just to let you know that there is something wrong with my account 'you.believeme@yahoo.com'. I have to get online with a new account. My new account is 'behnamyou@yahoo.com' Please add my new account in your list.

I appreciate it if I could chat with you.

All the best,
Behnam, 1 February, 2012


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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Amoure » Wed Feb 01, 2012 1:42 pm

Hi.

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Amoure » Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:16 pm

Hi Behnam;
YOU became dangerous! why a tiger!!?

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Mohsen » Wed Feb 01, 2012 3:18 pm

Hi Behnam,
Gold is a rare metal ,gold is beautiful ,it is burnished and it color has stability . So its quality cause women wear it round- the- clock.
Many people like gold because of its value not its beautifulness . I don’t know why Gold has no attraction for me , May be there is something wrong in my body system. A detector or a probe does not work well, I need a transplant surgery.

I don’t know how Gold cause slavery for men , what do you mean by your question? Well in the Gold history ,for many years there were black slaves who works in South Africa for their English white master ,and they plunder the South Africa Mines like what happen for Black Gold in middle East .

Behnam , How it is beneficial to kill a wife. You know that if person kills his wife ,he will be executed , what is your plot ?

B.Wishes,
Mohsen

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby behnam » Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:30 am


Hi Mohsen,

Sorry to make you confused. As you know, in our country, when a husband divorces his wife, he must give her some money or some gold etc. depends on what is written in the document of the marriage in registry office. In Farsi we call it 'mehrieh'.

These days-IN IRAN- it is common for boys and girls to have this dialog between each other when getting married:

G: Honey, you must consider my dowry 1000 gold coins in the document of marriage if you'd like me to say a loud 'YES' in registry office.

B: Darling, it doesn't matter. I love you very much.(This love doesn't come from his heart or mind. In fact other part of his body rules him on those days).

Anyway, they get married. After some months or some years they find life boring. They may start fighting with each other. Finally, they decide to get divorced. They go to the court and open a file. After some meetings in the court, the man(he was a boy before) finds out that he must give 1000 gold coins to his wife! 1000 coins? Yes, about one million US dollars!!! Really? Yes?

A brave man would pay one hundred thousand US dollars if he could kill his wife and offer evidence to the court that it had been by accident not on purpose. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Joking aside, in Iran, there is a modern form of slavery. Men are slaves, and women are their owners. Men are slaves, because they are heavily in debt. Women are their owners, because men owe them a lot of money actually!

Dear Mohsen, if you think you are an exception, so you aren't a slave, just look at the marriage document and see how much the dowry of your wife is written there and you have signed the bottom of the page happily! :lol: :lol: :lol:

All the best,
Behnam, 2 February, 2012


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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Mohsen » Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:05 am

Hi Behnam,

I can say that I am an exception ,because in the dowry I signed it there was not written about gold coin amount , and the other things is that I have paid the amount dowry which I was indebted to my wife , expect one thing that I should take her to Mecca.
You know that women whenever asked for their dowry ,men should pay it right away , there no need fighting and divorce. It is the Islamic rules . In my case my wife never asked for her dowry , but I paid it on my willing .. you know that thing are became expensive , so it is better to pay it sooner
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have a good day
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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Mohsen » Thu Feb 02, 2012 7:07 am

Hi Elham,

Non of my dreams came true until now , I like to have a confectionary ,a restaurant , an ice cream shop , I wished I had got married a Japanese girl. ,these are my childish ‘wishes.

When I was a child I was interested in confectionary ,cookie ,and generally sweetish things.when my father brought a box of it to home , I didn’t eat anything unless the box became empty … so my mother had to hide the box somewhere at house. At the same time I started searching operation , if I found the box , I would finish it in the hidden place , like a mouse under the cabinet . but most of the time I could not find it and gradually it was a kind of complex in my mind , so I wished I had have a confectionary shop as a dream. Also I spent all of money which I find at home to buy ice cream. It was usual for me to eat ice cream everyday .. so my parents began to suppress my feeling by different ways , they kept the money away from my hand and it was my another dreams to open an ice-cream shop ...and food and restaurant have the same story , I used to stripped the refrigerator . When I was adult my father encouraged my to join a sport club , and I went warlike club to play Karate , you know the karate is originally a Japanese ‘ sport . and if a person join it inevitability would be attracted by japans culture . so at that time I founded in japans style and I wished to marry a japans girl. May be I would like to exercise Karatte days and nights , that was my forth wish and failure in my life.


Have a good day
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Dreams!

Postby [amal] » Thu Feb 02, 2012 8:03 am

Hello Elham,
Thanks for your patience, here is my post about dreams, I hope to read your answer about your own question after you finish reading mine:

Dear Elham, For sure we all see dreams and of course there are a lot of explanations about this, some scientists believe that we see at night what we face during the day or the lifetime and some of dreams are memorable while others aren't....

Oh, It's a very complicated subject and need a lot of study so let me talk about my own dreams which is a little bit simpler and easier. :lol:

My problem is that I see a lot of dreams but I always don't remember them!!!

However, I remeber that when I was a child my dreams all where about princesses and being a princess who lives in a big castle until her prince comes on his white horse and takes her faraway. {-:
Maybe that's because I was watching a lot of cartoons about that since my favourite type was like Mary Antoinette, The beauty and the beast...etc {-:

I don't think that my dreams as an adult have changed since I really still love their dresses, their style and their way of dealing with people and this has a clear impact on me and my personality.

Now let me tell you about the real life or my real dreams and wishes; I -in my whole life- didn't dream that I would one day study math after finishing the school, I even didn't imagine that,cause I totally dislike it! HOWEVER, MATHEMATICS was the main subject in my institute .:cry: poor me! :-( :lol:

However, I am very satisfied with myself for what I am and cause although math wasn't my favourite subject, I graduated with a very good degree.

Therefore, now my curret and biggest dream is fining a JOB cause obviously I am not interested in math and I can't work as an accountant, That isn't me!!!!!!!!!

Dear Elham, I wanted to write about your question
: 'which event of your life has been the most effective one and has caused noticable dfferences in yourlife or personality?'
But it really made me sad cause it's an old and painful story which I don't like to remember. However, I dislike to ignore your question therefore I am going to write about it briefly ...

The most effective event in my life is the day which I visited my father after he did his heart surgery. :-( It was an awful day which I wont forget! :-( It's really made a great change in my personality and I become more responsible girl who start to care about the people around her .

Forgive me Elham, I have to end my message here, right now my eyes are full of tears but in the end I feel like most of my wishes in somehow has come true and god has always listened to me and has always given me what I want. It's enough for me that god kept my father alive for us and this is all what I want from life.Nothing is important more than my family.

Thanks for reading.

Best wishes
Amal

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Amoure » Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:29 am

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Elham » Thu Feb 02, 2012 11:53 am

Hi Mohsen,

Seems you are a rich man; why don't you start a confictionary or ice creem store? And you can hire someone to work there when you're at your main job! This way not anly do you realise your childhood dream but also you creat job for some one else!!! {-; :-D

I thought men dream of prittiest,happiest,...st( {-; ) wife, but I had never heard a man dream for a Kerate woman!!! :shock: If you had such a wife, wouldn't you be afraid to be hit by her when you became a bad man?! {-;
You know,my future husband is a very very lucky man, beacause I quited Kerate before I gain the brown belt; otherwise he couldn't defend himself while I got angry with him! He must be thankful to God and me! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hope your dreams come true one after another*

All the best,
Elham

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Mohsen » Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:55 pm

Hi Elham,

Thanks for you suggestion I, I think about it and maybe in future I treat you at my own Ice cream ,confictionary’ store.
Because I had a black belt , I never afraid of my Japanese wife , :lol: If I met you before and I knew that you have a brown belt ,be sure I would change my dream .

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Why are you sad?!

Postby [amal] » Thu Feb 02, 2012 12:56 pm

Hi Mohsen,

How are you?

I was reading your posts here but I felt some sadness in your words, what's the matter?! Is everything going well with you?! What has made you sad?! Take it easy, nothing deserve your sadness...

I wish you a happy and healthy life.

Amal

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Mohsen » Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:27 pm

Hi Amal,

Thanks for your morale which you gave me in your words. Yes I am sad ,today I had an interview in a petrochemical company at 12 o’clock. They asked for commercial manager ,a full time job , and I couldn’t accept it ,because I am working somewhere and I can accept a part time job. I am thinking to leave my former job and join to Petrochemical Co. This feel is killing me , I should be disloyal to my present manager ..

B.Wishes,
mohsen

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Amoure » Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:15 pm

Dear Behnam;
Hi.
I wanted to say YOU that we can do anything we want to if we stick to it long enough. And time after time YOU could! Well done!
L'amoure.

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby behnam » Thu Feb 02, 2012 6:27 pm


Hi Mohsen,
When we are speaking about some social matters, we should consider the averages. Forget about yourself for a while and do a survey of the number of married men who are deeply in debt. They owe their wives actually. Well, you are a rich man, so you could pay your wife's dowry. How about other men in the society? Haven't you ever heard that 'One swallow doesn't make a summer' or 'A single instance of something is just that; it doesn't indicate a trend'?

What would you do if Saudi Arabia didn't let Iranians visit Mecca and make Haj? You are still in debt my dear friend! :lol: :lol: :lol:

My wife's dowry is 14 gold coins and a bunch of rose flowers(14 roses actually). However, I am speaking generally.

All the best,
Behnam, 2 February, 2012


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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby behnam » Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:54 am


Hi Elham,

According to the chief Physicist of the world; Albert Einstein, 'Imagination is more important than knowledge..'. However, I am not good at imagining. I am also terrible at dreaming. I don't dream a lot, or I cannot remember them. I really enjoy sleeping at least 7 hours at night without any problem. Thank God!

I used to dream of giving my Noble prize speech in Sweden. After the speech, I used to dream about answering to the questions of news reporters! :lol: :lol: :lol:

In my opinion, the best thing in the world which could have long-lasting life is fame! I prefer fame to wealth, although I own none of them. I still dream about being a well-known person.

I don't like to be a famous football player, an actor or a singer. I don't value these sorts of careers. However, I like to be well-known in the world of science and technology.

For me, entering to the virtual world-the Internet- can be considered as a turning point in my life. Before that, I was a one-dimensional student. I wasn't good at communicating with people. I used to see the world through some Physics-based formulas.

It was just November 2006 that I started to learn English seriously. I entered the Internet and met many people from different parts of the world. I chatted with many people with different attitudes and thoughts. I made friends with a lot of people and communicated with them. I loved some girls, and some girls loved me! :lol: :lol: :lol: All these things helped me change my way of thinking. Now, I am a different person. I am satisfied with my role on the Internet. I could have positive effects on many people, and many people could affect my life. Thank God.

All the best,
Behnam, 3 February, 2012



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