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Postby Mohsen » Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:06 pm

[size=150]Hi Dear Friends,

As God says , He is the best-tempered in the world. Congradulation on the the birth anniversary of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him and his household).

Our best wishes for all of his real followers , We surly need to his intercessor in hereafter day.
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Postby behnam » Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:06 pm


Hi friends,
I wasn't in Tehran; at home, last three days. I was in Tabriz. I'm at home now. As soon as I got home, I turned the computer on to check the mailbox and to see if there were some off messages from my friends. However, I don't know what wrong was. I neither could sign in Yahoo messengers nor could check my mailbox! Other sites I often visit; like this site, could be opened, but there is something wrong with opening Yahoo Messenger, googletalk, and mail.yahoo.com

The speed is enough to open them, but I guess the problem is something else. How about you? Can you easily use YM and Gtalk? Is it possible for you to check your mailboxes?

The rate of increase in the number of posts is not acceptable. It makes me sad. On the other hand, the number of viewers-people who visit the thread and read its posts- is dramatically increasing. That's very good. However, the worrying matter which is also disappointing is that those people do not leave comments in the thread! This is really sad. Why don't they put comments in the thread? Why don't they join us?


Please leave a comment and let's share something with each other and make the life easy to live(tolerate).

All the best,
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Postby behnam » Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:08 am


Hi,

I'm at home and have nothing to do and nowhere to go. It's also something wrong with connecting to the YM and Gtalk. I talked to my wife about the things happened in Tabriz. I spoke about the things I'd done and some experience I'd learned from the trip.

Besides writing, I'm listening to some video files downloaded from the Net now. As you may know, Tabriz is famous for nuts, so I bought some dried fruits and nuts. Although the prices were high, the quality was acceptable. My wife has wanted me to buy some dried cherry (Albalu). She is making cherry jam now. We call it 'Morabbaye Albalu' in Farsi. To be honest, I don't know what 'Albalu' is in English. Actually it is smaller than cherry and has dark colour.

Anyway, it is boring to be idle! I dislike it.

Please introduce some topics for discussion. I've got some free time to spend on writing or discussing.

All the best,
Behnam, 10 Feb, 2012


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Postby behnam » Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:32 am


Hi again,

This week, I couldn't chat with my friends, so I've missed them terribly. I seem strict and unkind in appearance (maybe so serious), but actually I'm a soft-hearted person. I called some friends of mine and talked with them. Now, I feel happy and relaxed. Some friends didn't answer to the call. Well, guess it wasn't a convenient time for them.

I really love my friends and I feel empty without them.

In Tabriz, I visited some family friends. I also met some old friends. I had mixed feelings actually. I am not able to describe my feelings with words. I was happy because the meetings brought some happy childhood memories. On the other hand, it was short. It makes you sad when you know leaving friends is inevitable.

It's extremely important to have a positive attitude towards people, friendship, and relationship. Something is in my mind to say, and I'm searching for some suitable sentences and words to say, but I cannot find. Let me explain it:

Two things won't be forgotten at all. One of them is being beneficent-helping people when they are in critical situations. For example, giving hopes to disappointed and depressed people. Lending money to someone in a situation that s/he needs it, but is too shy to ask! Giving a helping hand when someone is in a critical situation will be stuck in minds forever.

The other one is disservice or badness-being bad to people and acting in a bad way. We call it 'badi kardan' in Farsi. As well as goodness, this will be stayed in minds forever.

In order to make it clear, let me tell you a story, extracted from 'Golestan Sadee'; one of my favourite books.


I was sitting in a vessel with a company of great men when a boat which contained two brothers happened to sink near us. One of the great men promised a hundred dinars to a sailor if he could save them both. While the sailor was pulling out one, the other drowned. I said: 'He had no longer to live and therefore delay took place in rescuing him.' The sailor smiled and replied: 'What you said is certain. Moreover, I preferred to save this one because, when I once-happened to lag behind in the desert, he seated me on his camel, whereas I'd received a whipping by the hands of the other, when I was a boy. I recited: He, who does right, does it to his own soul and he, who does evil, does it against the same.

As long as you can, do not scratch the interior of someone
Because there are thorns on this road.
Be helpful in the needs of a dervish(a poor person)
Because you also has needs.


This story reminds me 'what goes around, comes around', and also 'you reap what you sow'.

I hope you liked it. Thank you for reading.

All the best,
Behnam, 10 Feb, 2012




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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby behnam » Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:17 am


Sorry to disturb, but I've made some mistakes in the posts. However, it is impossible to edit them. This site doesn't let us edit the posts a few minutes after posting! Among many advantages, this is one of its disadvantages. :-( :-( :-(

One of the mistakes is
I was happy because the meetings brought some happy childhood memories.

It must be 'I was happy because the meetings brought some happy childhood memories back.'

There are many mistakes in my posts. However, this one was bothering me. I had to correct it. {-: {-: {-: I apologize for making too many mistakes. My English is a bit rusty actually. :lol: :lol: :lol:

All the best,
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Postby Elham » Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:06 pm

Hi dear Behnam,

Welcome back! I hope you've enjoyed the trip to your beloved city(Tabriz the great {-: ). I know that you love Tabriz and breathing it's air.I havn't ever seen Azarbaijan,but your nice and excited descriptions about there and it's people -your love for there- has impressed me in a way that as if I have always loved Azarbaijan! I don't know how to describe my feeling...I can't put it in words, but I've got an special feeling for it!
And you should know that one my biggest wishes is to take a trip to Azarbaijan(specially your birthplace) with YOU! Actually, I would walk on air and be on cloud nine if it could happen! Alas... :-( :-( :-(

By the way,thanks for your posts; I enjoyed reading them.
DEFENTLY, you are a very kind-hearted man. Being a friend of you, I have always seen your pure sincere and valubale feelings for things.
Thanks for caring about your friends;You've got a golden heart! :-)

And my last thanks to you for sharing what was going on in your mind about goodness and badness. In my idea, goodness is to make some one else have a pleasant feeling(as a matter of fact, a RIGHT pleasant feeling, cause not any pleasant feeling is right!)! And it can happen by:

Helping someone in the critical situation,
Giving hope to a disappointed person,
Being a useful person and giving service to other people,
Making other people remember God and his greatness,
....
Or just being a lovely friend and calling a friend! {-; :-D



Sth is also going on in my mind; Let me try to put it in words!
I'm thinking of a diffrent shape of helping! Some times a person dosen't do anything special for us... more spicifically, he dose nothing for us directly, but helps us a lot! Some times a person helps us just by owning a nice and good feature. Observing his manner and goodness makes us admire that good featur, makes us admire goodness and shows us the goodness!

For me, it is one of the greates helps one can offer the others!
For instance, seeing a very polite and kind person not only dose make us admire the person himself, but also reminds us of politness and kindness and makes us willing to develope such qualities ourselves!

Oh, another terrific example just came to my mind!
Some people help us although we don't see them or they aren't even alive now but hearing, reading and learning about them, about their great personalities is the greatest helps to us!
One of these really really great people is Prophit Mohhamad(PBUH) - a mercy for all creation- ***
During last semester I was busy learning more about him and I was really amazed what an awesome and exceptional man he has been! To be hoest, I fell in love with him! :-D

I don't know how to describe it! Isn't it really a great help when someone makes you adore kindness,politeness,love,goodness,modesty,braveness,compassion,......and humanity,
in the truest meaning of the word?

Isn't it the greatest help to let other people know what god's aim is by creating human beings? Ohhh, isn't it the greatest help to show people how nice and good we can be?To be the best model of humanity for others?
My eyes are filled with tears, I love him, love him, love him soooooooo much!

Let me end my post at this poit,
Thanks for reading,

Elham

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby behnam » Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:30 pm


The Internet, pros and cons

Some people think of the Net positively and ignore its downsides. Others are pessimistic about the Internet and highlight the negative parts of it. As everything, the Internet has some advantages and disadvantages.

These days, people spend a lot of time at their computers to browse the sites on the Internet. They do not spend enough quality time with their families. As a result, people feel lonely and isolated. This makes life difficult. In addition to that, there are some morally bad pages on the Net. Those pages threaten the mental health of young people and children.

On the other hand, the Internet is a big source of information about different areas in life. For example, for English learners, there are many electronic books, audio and video files on it. These files can be easily and freely downloaded. Furthermore, the Net has brought the users a lot of comfort and ease. For instance, sending mails through the Internet, online banking and buying have provided relief and comfort to the users.

Additionally, nowadays, by means of pressing some keys on the keyboards or on the cell phones, people can enter the virtual world. In this world, they can chat with different people from all over the world. They can also make friends with different people with different views, attitudes, thoughts, and education levels. This results in knowing cultures and developing friendship between different nations.

In conclusion, the Internet plays an important role in this modern world. Although it has some negative sides, it seems deleting the Net from people's lives create some difficulties. If we take every factors into consideration, I believe the advantages of the Internet weigh its disadvantages.

Thank you for reading. How do you think?

All the best,
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Postby behnam » Sat Feb 11, 2012 4:12 am


Hi Elham,

Thanks for your wonderful post, full of delicate points.

I don't know why all 124,000 messengers are male. Therefore, we have no chance to check how women feel when men love female messengers. To be honest with you, I do feel jealous when you love prophet Muhammad that much. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I think for women the right path to heaven is loving and satisfying their husbands. By the way, Islam is based on caring about God's rules not on loving prophets and Imams. When it comes to following a religion, love must be measured by the amount of care and action, not by saying something while there are tears in eyes! :lol:

Dear Elham, I am not criticising. I know you quite well. I know that you are a real Muslim. However, I found it a good opportunity to mention something which is maybe important.

There is no doubt about the greatness of prophets and Imams. We are supposed to follow them, not to love them. When we strongly love someone, we unwillingly produce enemies for them. Why? Well, we cannot deny the fact that human beings are jealous. Jealousy, as an emotion, more or less, is in our blood. Therefore, showing a lot of love creates a lot of hatred, as if there is always a sort of balance between them.

To be brief, it should be kept in mind-with the strongest faith-that love will be measured by action! That is why people say 'actions speak louder than words.'

Dear Elham, I must say again that I am neither criticising you nor advising. I am just taking the chance that you kindly have given to write something. Thank you very much for creating that opportunity for me. Kisses&hugs :oops: :oops: :oops:

About the trip, yes it was really great. I really enjoyed it. When I am in Azerbaijan, I am in my hometown, in my beloved place. My soul goes sightseeing, so it goes out of my body; flying in the sky. I feel relaxed, because
I am with my soul, and the body which plays the role of cage is left at that time.

I wish you were with me. We could have a lot of real fun.

All the best,
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Postby behnam » Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:10 am


Hi Amoure,

I was browsing the thread a few seconds ago and saw some posts from you! I don't know why I hadn't seen them before! That's strange. :?: :shock:

I do apologize for leaving your posts unanswered. :oops:

Tiger is famous for its pride. I am a proud person. That's why I am using it. Don't fear! I am not dangerous at all. Actually, I am as proud as a tiger, but not as powerful as it. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I do agree with you. Determination and hard work lead everybody to success. This is a general rule.

Sorry for being late in replying. Please write regularly.

All the best,
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Postby behnam » Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:09 am


Why do we make mistakes?

There are some silly mistakes in my posts. I call them silly, because they are really silly! It is believed that people learn from their mistakes. I wonder what I'm going to learn from those silly mistakes. :lol: :lol:

Let me have a look at some of them:
Although it has some negative sides, it seems deleting the Net from people's lives create some difficulties. If we take every factors into consideration, I believe the advantages of the Internet weigh its disadvantages.

As far as I know, there are two mistakes. Deleting the Net from people's lives creates some difficulties. If we take all factors(or every factor) into consideration,...

Another one
Because you also has(obviously must be have!) needs.
This one is terrible. It seems I am losing my accuracy. :cry: :cry: :cry:

That's OK to make mistakes, but some of them are really disappointing. :-(

There are two possibilities. It's considerably certain that I am getting old, and it's highly probable that my English is going rusty. :lol: :cry: Well, I am crying and laughing. What else can I do? hehehehehehehe....

All the best,
Behnam, 11 Feb, 2012

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Postby Elham » Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:26 am

Dear Behnam,

What would be wrong if you critisized or advised me?! Come on!
To be honest, I look for some excuses to make you criticize and advise! I love to hear your strong opinions, enjoy your comments on my words and try to be wise and take lessons.Your ideas are always welcomed. :-)

You made a very important and logical comment on my feelings. What you wrote was vital to be said;thanks alot.

Reading your post a question arose in my mind! Would you please let me know what is the right path to heaven for a girl ( a woman without husband like me)? I want to go there too! :roll: :lol: :lol:

All the best,
Elham

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Postby behnam » Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:06 pm


Hi Elham,
I am not sure, but apparently girls cannot go heaven! Therefore, there is no way for girls to enter there, unless they get married! :oops: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Girls must keep their hearts open to love! Avoiding high expectations of marriage, they are supposed to say 'yes' to the person who proposes. I'm not a girl, so I cannot see the world through their eyes. However, it seems that girls are looking for perfect boys. Nobody is perfect. That's why people, who look for perfection, meet failure.

Bees look for flowers and flies search for rubbish. I prefer to be a bee rather than a fly. However, too much criticsing results in pessimism which is against bees' philosophy. :lol: :lol: :lol:

The most common mistake among young partners is to pay too much attention to the opposite sex in front of each other. Suppose a boy and a girl are dating together. The boy may ask the girl for her favourite singer. In such situations, wise girls know how to answer. They wisely avoid naming a male singer's name, although they love his songs and voice. It is the same for wise boys. They are very careful about what to say and how to act when meeting another lady on the streets or on TV, etc.

A girl used to collect football players' photos! She didn't know that her action might create an unpleasant sensation. She didn't have a happy marriage. Finally, her marriage ended in divorce. Pretending to be happy, she is keeping a pet dog and spending her time with it now! Well, loneliness is one of the direct results of stupidity!

Both men and women are jealous, but they reveal jealousy differently. Watching TV together, a man may say, "What a beautiful lady!" This sentence hurts his wife's feelings, and then revenge is inevitable. A tough sanction in bed will be probably imposed on the man! :oops: :oops: :lol:

However, men often take revenge in a different way. The majority of them may look for love affairs or mistresses! In many cases, disloyalty is an inevitable result.

This subject is delicate. That's enough for now.

All the best,
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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Mohsen » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:38 pm

By the way, Islam is based on caring about God's rules not on loving prophets and Imams


Hi Behnam,
Thanks for writing your idea about Islam , Would you please explain what is the God rules that we should care about it. At leaat write some important ones.

All the best
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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Elham » Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:25 am

Hi Behnam,

Thanks for reply,

I DO understand your point and definitely agree with avoiding high expectations and taking marriage easier ; but I'm afraid to say it's not that easy to say YES to whom proposes to us (maybe the first one!)!
Let me explain more!

I think there are two major mistakes girls make nowadays regarding marriage! One is what you mentioned and that is 'having high expectations' which ends in late marriages at older ages! it has many disadvantages that we all are aware of!

The second is again somehow what you said! To say YES to whom proposes! (Please pay attention that I'm looking at your idea from a different angel although I know what you mean!)

This is not hidden to anybody that divorce rate is soooo high and is increasing day after day; why???
I guess one of the most important reasons is that many girls nowadays easily say YES!!! To whom? The first one who proposes them and claims is in love with them or even to the first one whom their parents approve of to marry with!

Some times a boy proposes based on feelings, he is young,excited (az ruye hayajan)! He hasn't thought well and his decision is not logical! He just wants to quench his current thirst without considering the result of this marriage and how he may feel or what big problems he may face, some years or even several months (or even worth, just one day) after the marriage!

This is the point where girlish feelings threatens the whole future of two people! They mostly get emotional and say YES!
No doubt, you know about such things very well .You are my teacher!


I believe a wise girl neither postpones her marriage by developing unrealistic high expectations nor spoils her future by fast, unmindful and irrational decisions!


By the way, in case there is really no way for me to go to heaven as a girl, I wish I myself could propose to my ideal man and marry him because he may never come himself! :lol: This way not only would I go to beloved heaven, but also I would make some one else’s life on the earth a real heaven! Hahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol:

Thanks for reading; I'll be happy to hear any advice or criticize by my dear friend and teacher :-)

All the best,
Elham

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Postby Elham » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:09 pm

Hi Mohsen,

Although you have asked a question from dear Behnam and he is supposed to answer you, I'd also love to give my own idea!

I have asked somebody your question before and she advised me to read verses 23 to 39, sureh Asra in the Koran! :ok:
You can refer to this address and read them right now:
http://www.andisheqom.com/Files/quransh ... ubid=30312


In my opinion, reading these verses you'll find the answer of your question!

I'm amazed that respecting the parents has come just after worshiping God and it's siad that we [color=#0040FF]have to
be careful how we treat and talk with them!!!! WOW!
And I really wonder why after that there's nothing regarding rights of wife and husband towards each other! :roll:

All the best,
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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Elham » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:28 pm

What a mess! It's tooooooo bad that we can't edit our post after a few minutes!
And there is also sth wrong with applying the colors! :-( :-( :-(

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Postby behnam » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:59 pm


Hi Mohsen,

How are you? I hope all is going well with you.

Our thoughtful friend Elham has answered to your question wisely. I am absolutely certain that you know the answer of your own question much better than us. God has given his instructions (rules) in the holly Koran, and some famous priests -Ayat Allah-have written many books-Resale Amaliye- about them. Not only a Muslim, but also Prophet Muhammad and all Imams are(were) expected to follow those instructions.

The only sign of loving someone is following his/her path; acting and reacting like him/her. Otherwise, it is like claiming without offering support! If I were brave, I'd say it is self-fooling! :lol:

We may love a teacher; pretend to love a teacher; praise him/her, or flatter him/her in order to get some marks. In this world, these methods sometimes work. However, according to what I've read about the other world, such tricks won't work there. You may ask for the meaning of 'shefaat'. This word is widely misinterpreted in Iran. Iranians can hardly understand what 'shefaat' means. Like what is (was) common, we often think of it as pulling strings to fool God and then to get into heaven, even though there is nothing positive in our reports!!!

Dear Mohsen, let's stop discussing this matter publicly further. I am too tired to search for another place to make nest in! :lol: :lol: :lol: If you are interested in discussing it further, please email me at:behrampednam@yahoo.com

All the best,
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A big mistake!

Postby Elham » Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:21 pm

Fast decition??? Fast?! :shock:

Oh dear Elham, that's quick decision honey! ;-)

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Postby behnam » Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:50 am


Hi Elham,

Thanks for the reply with an excellent English. I really enjoyed reading it. In terms of English, it was fantastic. Congratulations!

I agree with you up to a point, but there are still some points I disagree with. However, I'm not in the mood for discussing them.

You've made significant progress in writing. In your last posts, your great improvement can be seen clearly. Congratulations on achieving success in writing professionally.

I hope to read more from you.

All the best,
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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Elham » Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:30 pm

"The trouble with most of us is that we would rather be ruined
by praise than saved by criticism."


-- Norman Vincent Peale

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Elham » Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:10 pm

Hi dear Behnam,

That's kind of you to notice any progress in my English! I really wish I could spend more time on my English, but sadly writting here is my only chance to practice it for now! :-(

Today, I read an article on the yahoo news about an Arabic Muslim woman who motivates other Muslim women to care more about their close relationships with their husbands and not to let too much shame threaten their marriage health which in many many cases leads to divorce!

Reading the article, I recalled my own recent post and thought about the topic more; I need to add up sth important to my comments.

It's so vital for a woman to know how to be a WIFE in the truest meaning of the word! She should be mindful of her great role in keeping a healthy successful marriage!

So, Emmm... I wanna say: maybe it's better for a woman to pay more attention to
'developing correct attitudes towards marriage' and 'learning about a wife's major role and resposibilty', then 'putting it into action wisely and mindfully' , instead of being too much involved in thinking about 'to whome she has to say YES' !!!
(long confusing sentence? sorryyy Behnam!) (Elham? Ask yourself! Can't you really express what you mean in a simpler way? :roll: )


It just came to my mind and since these days I love being busy writting in English, I just wrote it! {-: However, I'm a girl, I'll may change my mind tomorrow! :lol:

Thanks for taking time to read my posts,

All the best,
Elham


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