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Postby Elham » Sat Feb 11, 2012 10:26 am

Dear Behnam,

What would be wrong if you critisized or advised me?! Come on!
To be honest, I look for some excuses to make you criticize and advise! I love to hear your strong opinions, enjoy your comments on my words and try to be wise and take lessons.Your ideas are always welcomed. :-)

You made a very important and logical comment on my feelings. What you wrote was vital to be said;thanks alot.

Reading your post a question arose in my mind! Would you please let me know what is the right path to heaven for a girl ( a woman without husband like me)? I want to go there too! :roll: :lol: :lol:

All the best,
Elham

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Postby behnam » Sat Feb 11, 2012 12:06 pm


Hi Elham,
I am not sure, but apparently girls cannot go heaven! Therefore, there is no way for girls to enter there, unless they get married! :oops: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Girls must keep their hearts open to love! Avoiding high expectations of marriage, they are supposed to say 'yes' to the person who proposes. I'm not a girl, so I cannot see the world through their eyes. However, it seems that girls are looking for perfect boys. Nobody is perfect. That's why people, who look for perfection, meet failure.

Bees look for flowers and flies search for rubbish. I prefer to be a bee rather than a fly. However, too much criticsing results in pessimism which is against bees' philosophy. :lol: :lol: :lol:

The most common mistake among young partners is to pay too much attention to the opposite sex in front of each other. Suppose a boy and a girl are dating together. The boy may ask the girl for her favourite singer. In such situations, wise girls know how to answer. They wisely avoid naming a male singer's name, although they love his songs and voice. It is the same for wise boys. They are very careful about what to say and how to act when meeting another lady on the streets or on TV, etc.

A girl used to collect football players' photos! She didn't know that her action might create an unpleasant sensation. She didn't have a happy marriage. Finally, her marriage ended in divorce. Pretending to be happy, she is keeping a pet dog and spending her time with it now! Well, loneliness is one of the direct results of stupidity!

Both men and women are jealous, but they reveal jealousy differently. Watching TV together, a man may say, "What a beautiful lady!" This sentence hurts his wife's feelings, and then revenge is inevitable. A tough sanction in bed will be probably imposed on the man! :oops: :oops: :lol:

However, men often take revenge in a different way. The majority of them may look for love affairs or mistresses! In many cases, disloyalty is an inevitable result.

This subject is delicate. That's enough for now.

All the best,
Behnam, 11 Feb, 2012



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Postby Mohsen » Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:38 pm

By the way, Islam is based on caring about God's rules not on loving prophets and Imams


Hi Behnam,
Thanks for writing your idea about Islam , Would you please explain what is the God rules that we should care about it. At leaat write some important ones.

All the best
Mohsen

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Postby Elham » Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:25 am

Hi Behnam,

Thanks for reply,

I DO understand your point and definitely agree with avoiding high expectations and taking marriage easier ; but I'm afraid to say it's not that easy to say YES to whom proposes to us (maybe the first one!)!
Let me explain more!

I think there are two major mistakes girls make nowadays regarding marriage! One is what you mentioned and that is 'having high expectations' which ends in late marriages at older ages! it has many disadvantages that we all are aware of!

The second is again somehow what you said! To say YES to whom proposes! (Please pay attention that I'm looking at your idea from a different angel although I know what you mean!)

This is not hidden to anybody that divorce rate is soooo high and is increasing day after day; why???
I guess one of the most important reasons is that many girls nowadays easily say YES!!! To whom? The first one who proposes them and claims is in love with them or even to the first one whom their parents approve of to marry with!

Some times a boy proposes based on feelings, he is young,excited (az ruye hayajan)! He hasn't thought well and his decision is not logical! He just wants to quench his current thirst without considering the result of this marriage and how he may feel or what big problems he may face, some years or even several months (or even worth, just one day) after the marriage!

This is the point where girlish feelings threatens the whole future of two people! They mostly get emotional and say YES!
No doubt, you know about such things very well .You are my teacher!


I believe a wise girl neither postpones her marriage by developing unrealistic high expectations nor spoils her future by fast, unmindful and irrational decisions!


By the way, in case there is really no way for me to go to heaven as a girl, I wish I myself could propose to my ideal man and marry him because he may never come himself! :lol: This way not only would I go to beloved heaven, but also I would make some one else’s life on the earth a real heaven! Hahahahaha :lol: :lol: :lol:

Thanks for reading; I'll be happy to hear any advice or criticize by my dear friend and teacher :-)

All the best,
Elham

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Postby Elham » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:09 pm

Hi Mohsen,

Although you have asked a question from dear Behnam and he is supposed to answer you, I'd also love to give my own idea!

I have asked somebody your question before and she advised me to read verses 23 to 39, sureh Asra in the Koran! :ok:
You can refer to this address and read them right now:
http://www.andisheqom.com/Files/quransh ... ubid=30312


In my opinion, reading these verses you'll find the answer of your question!

I'm amazed that respecting the parents has come just after worshiping God and it's siad that we [color=#0040FF]have to
be careful how we treat and talk with them!!!! WOW!
And I really wonder why after that there's nothing regarding rights of wife and husband towards each other! :roll:

All the best,
Elham[/color]

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Postby Elham » Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:28 pm

What a mess! It's tooooooo bad that we can't edit our post after a few minutes!
And there is also sth wrong with applying the colors! :-( :-( :-(

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Postby behnam » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:59 pm


Hi Mohsen,

How are you? I hope all is going well with you.

Our thoughtful friend Elham has answered to your question wisely. I am absolutely certain that you know the answer of your own question much better than us. God has given his instructions (rules) in the holly Koran, and some famous priests -Ayat Allah-have written many books-Resale Amaliye- about them. Not only a Muslim, but also Prophet Muhammad and all Imams are(were) expected to follow those instructions.

The only sign of loving someone is following his/her path; acting and reacting like him/her. Otherwise, it is like claiming without offering support! If I were brave, I'd say it is self-fooling! :lol:

We may love a teacher; pretend to love a teacher; praise him/her, or flatter him/her in order to get some marks. In this world, these methods sometimes work. However, according to what I've read about the other world, such tricks won't work there. You may ask for the meaning of 'shefaat'. This word is widely misinterpreted in Iran. Iranians can hardly understand what 'shefaat' means. Like what is (was) common, we often think of it as pulling strings to fool God and then to get into heaven, even though there is nothing positive in our reports!!!

Dear Mohsen, let's stop discussing this matter publicly further. I am too tired to search for another place to make nest in! :lol: :lol: :lol: If you are interested in discussing it further, please email me at:behrampednam@yahoo.com

All the best,
Behnam, 12 Feb, 2012




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A big mistake!

Postby Elham » Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:21 pm

Fast decition??? Fast?! :shock:

Oh dear Elham, that's quick decision honey! ;-)

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Postby behnam » Mon Feb 13, 2012 2:50 am


Hi Elham,

Thanks for the reply with an excellent English. I really enjoyed reading it. In terms of English, it was fantastic. Congratulations!

I agree with you up to a point, but there are still some points I disagree with. However, I'm not in the mood for discussing them.

You've made significant progress in writing. In your last posts, your great improvement can be seen clearly. Congratulations on achieving success in writing professionally.

I hope to read more from you.

All the best,
Behnam, 13 Feb, 2012



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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Elham » Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:30 pm

"The trouble with most of us is that we would rather be ruined
by praise than saved by criticism."


-- Norman Vincent Peale

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Elham » Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:10 pm

Hi dear Behnam,

That's kind of you to notice any progress in my English! I really wish I could spend more time on my English, but sadly writting here is my only chance to practice it for now! :-(

Today, I read an article on the yahoo news about an Arabic Muslim woman who motivates other Muslim women to care more about their close relationships with their husbands and not to let too much shame threaten their marriage health which in many many cases leads to divorce!

Reading the article, I recalled my own recent post and thought about the topic more; I need to add up sth important to my comments.

It's so vital for a woman to know how to be a WIFE in the truest meaning of the word! She should be mindful of her great role in keeping a healthy successful marriage!

So, Emmm... I wanna say: maybe it's better for a woman to pay more attention to
'developing correct attitudes towards marriage' and 'learning about a wife's major role and resposibilty', then 'putting it into action wisely and mindfully' , instead of being too much involved in thinking about 'to whome she has to say YES' !!!
(long confusing sentence? sorryyy Behnam!) (Elham? Ask yourself! Can't you really express what you mean in a simpler way? :roll: )


It just came to my mind and since these days I love being busy writting in English, I just wrote it! {-: However, I'm a girl, I'll may change my mind tomorrow! :lol:

Thanks for taking time to read my posts,

All the best,
Elham

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Mohsen » Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:40 pm

Dear Behnam and Elham,

Many rules that we consider them as Islamic rules are common among people of the world , for example ,not telling lie , calumny (accusing someone without reason ), helping poor people, respecting people , parents, trustworthiness, honesty and many many things . even unbelievers, people who don’t believe God follow these rules , there is no need for God to follow these rules ,the common people understand the rule and use it in their life.
The difference in the Islamic rules is that they start with love and loving the prophet and imam.
As in Soreh Shora/23 , It is clearly stipulated “This it is which Allah announceth unto His bondmen who believe and do good works. Say (O Muhammad, unto mankind): I ask of you no fee therefor, save lovingkindness among kinsfolk. And whoso scoreth a good deed We add unto its good for him. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Responsive.”

We also have many saying (Hadith) about loving prophet and imam.
I agree with you that loving is not enough for a believer , a truth believer who love them ,should act to what her/his beloved ask for.

B.Wishes,
Mohsen

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Postby behnam » Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:48 am


Hi Elham,

Thanks for your reply. Would you mind emailing me the article? I like it's title.

All the best,
Behnam, 14 Feb,2012





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Postby behnam » Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:50 am

Happy Valentine's Day to YOU!

All the best,
Behnam, 14 Feb, 2012



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Postby behnam » Tue Feb 14, 2012 2:53 am


Hi Mohsen,

You are right. Keep on going your own way. I wish you success.

All the best,
Behnam, 14 Feb, 2012



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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Mohsen » Wed Feb 15, 2012 1:39 pm

Dear Behnam,
Thanks that you approved my way. Today I am very happy ,because all jobs i was expected to do were done. I am satisfied , now I open the site , drinking a mug of black and green tea , listen to a happy pop music and writing you. I should be ready for going to swimming pool after few minutes , one of my friend will pick me up to the swimming pool .The weather is cloudy and I can smell the rain which will come very soon.
I am sure tomorrow will be marvel louse. A good day for running beside the river.
How is the weather in Tehran? ,will you do your regular exercise tomorrow?
Have good day, and a better one tomorrow.
Mohsen
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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby setayesh » Wed Feb 15, 2012 4:02 pm

Hi My dear friends;

I hope you are all fine.To be honest this is my secound post in this new thread.when I joined here I wrote a post which appeared on the third page with a long delay.perhaps no one has seen it :-( since you were writing on the 5th page at that time.Anyway,I've missed you all alot.

All the best
Setayesh.

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Postby Mohsen » Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:47 pm

Hi Behnam,
Have heard the news , I listened to the news , I can’t believe it one famous American converted to Islam , and it was happen today in my city Esfahan , the news is that Sean Stone, son of American Oscar-winning director Oliver Stone converted to Islam in Isfahan and selected the name of Ali for himself at the age of 27


{-: {-:
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Postby Mohsen » Wed Feb 15, 2012 7:52 pm

Hi Stayesh,
I miss you ,Please have a mercy on yourself , how much strict are you on your studying , you welcome ,waiting for your posts
All the best
Mohsen

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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby behnam » Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:05 am


Hi Mohsen,

Thanks for your reply. It was raining and snowing last night. There is a little snow on the ground and on cars(on cold places). The weather is cold.

I used to have a one-hour walk in the park near my parents' flat. For some reasons, this year I stopped it. However, next year I am going to start it again.

Yes, I read it on the Internet (on Yahoo). I didn't know that the event has happened in Isfahan. Why in Isfahan? Is it a Muslim-maker city?

How is your back? Do you still suffer from back pain?

All the best,
Behnam, 16 Feb, 2012



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Re: Let's learn together!

Postby Elham » Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:45 am

Hiiiiiiiii Setayesh,

Very happy to see you among us in the new nest; Welcome back honey. :-D :-D :-D

I was waiting for you and your great posts. You should know how much I enjoy your presence here; thanks for joining us*

How was the exam? I really hope you have done it in the best way and you'll be student again next year! :-)

Don't hesitate to write as much as you can; I really miss your English.

Hope to read from you soon,


All the best,
Elham


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