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Silent letters!!!!!!!!Why?????
Words like: Listen – knife – write – night -have silent letters, but why do we use them in English if we don't read them
Any idea?
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In words beginning with kn, like knife, kneel, knock or know, the initial k used to be pronounced many centuries ago. The sound has been lost nowadays and we do not pronounce it, but we kept the spelling.
The sound gh is not pronounced in the middle of some words, like eight (pronounced like ate) or night.
That's pretty much all I can remember about my Old English classes regarding your question, Miss. Ladybird I'm sorry I cannot add more light into this question, but I will do some research. I know some other members will help us, too.
The sound gh is not pronounced in the middle of some words, like eight (pronounced like ate) or night.
That's pretty much all I can remember about my Old English classes regarding your question, Miss. Ladybird I'm sorry I cannot add more light into this question, but I will do some research. I know some other members will help us, too.
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OK my research is giving its fruit
Regarding the KN- spelling at the beginning of a word
The simple answer to this question is that there's always been a k at the beginning of the word, so let me restructure your question to: "why is the 'k' at the beginning of 'knife' silent?"
There is a respectable list of words in Modern English that begin with a written kn- but are pronounced with only an initial n- sound, including your knife as well as knave, knead, knee, knell, knight, knit, knock, knot, know, knuckle, and others.
All of these words stem from Old English forms beginning with cn- (the orthographic change from c to k, which began with the influence of Norman French spelling, is outside the scope of our current discussion), and at the time all were pronounced with an initial k sound before the n. These words were common to the Germanic languages, most of which still pronounce the initial k. Thus, for example, the Old English ancestor of knee was cnéo, pronounced "K'NAY-oh," and the cognate word in Modern German is Knie, pronounced "k'nee."
English dropped the k- sound relatively recently--the change seems to have taken place in educated English during the seventeenth century, meaning that Shakespeare would have pronounced the k- in these words. There were apparently some intermediate pronunciations, with the inital cluster becoming hn- or tn-. The k- remained longer in certain dialects, and some Scots dialects still pronounce it. The relative lateness of the sound change is one reason why the k- is still preserved in writing.
The main reason for the loss of the k- sound is that the kn- cluster is difficult to pronounce. There is no easy explanation for why kn- is too difficult to pronounce in English, but fine for German, Swedish, Dutch, etc., but that's the way these things often work.
I quoted this from http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.p ... e=19980514
Regarding the KN- spelling at the beginning of a word
The simple answer to this question is that there's always been a k at the beginning of the word, so let me restructure your question to: "why is the 'k' at the beginning of 'knife' silent?"
There is a respectable list of words in Modern English that begin with a written kn- but are pronounced with only an initial n- sound, including your knife as well as knave, knead, knee, knell, knight, knit, knock, knot, know, knuckle, and others.
All of these words stem from Old English forms beginning with cn- (the orthographic change from c to k, which began with the influence of Norman French spelling, is outside the scope of our current discussion), and at the time all were pronounced with an initial k sound before the n. These words were common to the Germanic languages, most of which still pronounce the initial k. Thus, for example, the Old English ancestor of knee was cnéo, pronounced "K'NAY-oh," and the cognate word in Modern German is Knie, pronounced "k'nee."
English dropped the k- sound relatively recently--the change seems to have taken place in educated English during the seventeenth century, meaning that Shakespeare would have pronounced the k- in these words. There were apparently some intermediate pronunciations, with the inital cluster becoming hn- or tn-. The k- remained longer in certain dialects, and some Scots dialects still pronounce it. The relative lateness of the sound change is one reason why the k- is still preserved in writing.
The main reason for the loss of the k- sound is that the kn- cluster is difficult to pronounce. There is no easy explanation for why kn- is too difficult to pronounce in English, but fine for German, Swedish, Dutch, etc., but that's the way these things often work.
I quoted this from http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.p ... e=19980514
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Here are three reasons why English has so many silent letters:
Old English was 90% phonemic (words sound the same as they look). But from the beginning of the 15th century, we began to borrow words from other languages. Because grammar and usage rules are different in other languages, adopted words did not follow the rules of English pronunciation.
The English language 'borrowed' the Latin alphabet, and so we have only got 26 letters to represent around 41 different significant sounds. This means that we must attempt to use combinations of letters to represent sounds.
In the Middle English Period William Caxton brought the printing press to England. As time passed, pronunciation continued to change, but the printing press preserved the old spelling. That's why today we have words that end in a silent 'e', or have other silent letters in the middle, like 'might'. In fact, modern day English is only 40% phonemic.
So are there any rules and can they help us? Axel Wijk (Regularized English, 1959, Stockholm: Almqvist & Wiksells) came up with over 100 rules for English spelling. It is claimed that by using these rules, you can spell up to 85% of the words in English with 90% accuracy. But is this really helpful? Basically, no! It gets so complicated that a much easier approach is to memorize sight words.
So you can see that unfortunately there is no clear way to know about all the silent letters in English. But is it a hopeless case? Well, the best we can do is to offer the following list of some silent letters:
Mb at the end of a word (silent b), e.g. comb, lamb, climb.
Sc at the beginning of a word followed by 'e' or 'i', (silent c), e.g. scene, scent, science, scissors (except for the word 'sceptic' and its derivations!).
Kn (silent k), e.g. knife, knock, know.
Mn at the end of a word (silent n), e.g. damn, autumn, column
Ps at the beginning of a word (silent p), e.g. psalm, psychiatry, psychology
Ght (silent gh), e.g. night, ought, taught
Gn at the beginning of a word (silent g), e.g. gnome, gnaw, gnu
Bt (silent b), e.g. debt, doubtful, subtle (but not in some words, e.g. 'obtain', 'unobtrusive'!)
The letter H is silent in the following situations:
At the end of word preceded by a vowel, e.g. cheetah, Sarah, messiah;
Between two vowels, e.g. annihilate, vehement, vehicle
After the letter 'r', e.g. rhyme, rhubarb, rhythm
After the letters 'ex', e.g. exhausting, exhibition, exhort.
http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/grammar/ ... ers01.html
Here are three reasons why English has so many silent letters:
Old English was 90% phonemic (words sound the same as they look). But from the beginning of the 15th century, we began to borrow words from other languages. Because grammar and usage rules are different in other languages, adopted words did not follow the rules of English pronunciation.
The English language 'borrowed' the Latin alphabet, and so we have only got 26 letters to represent around 41 different significant sounds. This means that we must attempt to use combinations of letters to represent sounds.
In the Middle English Period William Caxton brought the printing press to England. As time passed, pronunciation continued to change, but the printing press preserved the old spelling. That's why today we have words that end in a silent 'e', or have other silent letters in the middle, like 'might'. In fact, modern day English is only 40% phonemic.
So are there any rules and can they help us? Axel Wijk (Regularized English, 1959, Stockholm: Almqvist & Wiksells) came up with over 100 rules for English spelling. It is claimed that by using these rules, you can spell up to 85% of the words in English with 90% accuracy. But is this really helpful? Basically, no! It gets so complicated that a much easier approach is to memorize sight words.
So you can see that unfortunately there is no clear way to know about all the silent letters in English. But is it a hopeless case? Well, the best we can do is to offer the following list of some silent letters:
Mb at the end of a word (silent b), e.g. comb, lamb, climb.
Sc at the beginning of a word followed by 'e' or 'i', (silent c), e.g. scene, scent, science, scissors (except for the word 'sceptic' and its derivations!).
Kn (silent k), e.g. knife, knock, know.
Mn at the end of a word (silent n), e.g. damn, autumn, column
Ps at the beginning of a word (silent p), e.g. psalm, psychiatry, psychology
Ght (silent gh), e.g. night, ought, taught
Gn at the beginning of a word (silent g), e.g. gnome, gnaw, gnu
Bt (silent b), e.g. debt, doubtful, subtle (but not in some words, e.g. 'obtain', 'unobtrusive'!)
The letter H is silent in the following situations:
At the end of word preceded by a vowel, e.g. cheetah, Sarah, messiah;
Between two vowels, e.g. annihilate, vehement, vehicle
After the letter 'r', e.g. rhyme, rhubarb, rhythm
After the letters 'ex', e.g. exhausting, exhibition, exhort.
http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/grammar/ ... ers01.html
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SILENT LETTERS
Many people are perhaps not aware of the astonishing fact that nearly every letter of the English alphabet is silent in some word. (Silent letters are also sometimes called mute letters.) The following list was compiled with the help of Ellis, Plea for Phonetic Spelling, 1848.
a is silent in head, bread, deaf, meant
b is silent in debt, lamb, bomb, tomb
c is silent in muscle, blackguard, yacht, indict
d is silent in Wednesday, handkerchief, handbag
e is silent in pirate, more, have, give
f is silent in stiff, cuff, scoff
g is silent in gnaw, gnome, phlegm, straight
h is silent in honour, heir, ghost, night
i is silent in business, fashion, cushion
k is silent in know, knee, knock, blackguard
l is silent in talk, folk, salmon, colonel
m is silent in mnemonic
n is silent in hymn
o is silent in leopard, jeopardy
p is silent in psalm, pneumatic, cupboard, receipt
q(u) is silent in lacquer
r is silent in myrrh, catarrh
s is silent in isle, aisle, viscount, mess
t is silent in often, thistle, fasten, mortgage
u is silent in build, guild, plague
w is silent in whole, write, sword
y is silent in prayer, mayor
z is silent in rendezvous
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/5037/srabs1.html
Many people are perhaps not aware of the astonishing fact that nearly every letter of the English alphabet is silent in some word. (Silent letters are also sometimes called mute letters.) The following list was compiled with the help of Ellis, Plea for Phonetic Spelling, 1848.
a is silent in head, bread, deaf, meant
b is silent in debt, lamb, bomb, tomb
c is silent in muscle, blackguard, yacht, indict
d is silent in Wednesday, handkerchief, handbag
e is silent in pirate, more, have, give
f is silent in stiff, cuff, scoff
g is silent in gnaw, gnome, phlegm, straight
h is silent in honour, heir, ghost, night
i is silent in business, fashion, cushion
k is silent in know, knee, knock, blackguard
l is silent in talk, folk, salmon, colonel
m is silent in mnemonic
n is silent in hymn
o is silent in leopard, jeopardy
p is silent in psalm, pneumatic, cupboard, receipt
q(u) is silent in lacquer
r is silent in myrrh, catarrh
s is silent in isle, aisle, viscount, mess
t is silent in often, thistle, fasten, mortgage
u is silent in build, guild, plague
w is silent in whole, write, sword
y is silent in prayer, mayor
z is silent in rendezvous
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/5037/srabs1.html
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Thank youDixie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:49 pm ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Here are three reasons why English has so many silent letters:
Old English was 90% phonemic (words sound the same as they look). But from the beginning of the 15th century, we began to borrow words from other languages. Because grammar and usage rules are different in other languages, adopted words did not follow the rules of English pronunciation.
The English language 'borrowed' the Latin alphabet, and so we have only got 26 letters to represent around 41 different significant sounds. This means that we must attempt to use combinations of letters to represent sounds.
In the Middle English Period William Caxton brought the printing press to England. As time passed, pronunciation continued to change, but the printing press preserved the old spelling. That's why today we have words that end in a silent 'e', or have other silent letters in the middle, like 'might'. In fact, modern day English is only 40% phonemic.
So are there any rules and can they help us? Axel Wijk (Regularized English, 1959, Stockholm: Almqvist & Wiksells) came up with over 100 rules for English spelling. It is claimed that by using these rules, you can spell up to 85% of the words in English with 90% accuracy. But is this really helpful? Basically, no! It gets so complicated that a much easier approach is to memorize sight words.
So you can see that unfortunately there is no clear way to know about all the silent letters in English. But is it a hopeless case? Well, the best we can do is to offer the following list of some silent letters:
Mb at the end of a word (silent b), e.g. comb, lamb, climb.
Sc at the beginning of a word followed by 'e' or 'i', (silent c), e.g. scene, scent, science, scissors (except for the word 'sceptic' and its derivations!).
Kn (silent k), e.g. knife, knock, know.
Mn at the end of a word (silent n), e.g. damn, autumn, column
Ps at the beginning of a word (silent p), e.g. psalm, psychiatry, psychology
Ght (silent gh), e.g. night, ought, taught
Gn at the beginning of a word (silent g), e.g. gnome, gnaw, gnu
Bt (silent b), e.g. debt, doubtful, subtle (but not in some words, e.g. 'obtain', 'unobtrusive'!)
The letter H is silent in the following situations:
At the end of word preceded by a vowel, e.g. cheetah, Sarah, messiah;
Between two vowels, e.g. annihilate, vehement, vehicle
After the letter 'r', e.g. rhyme, rhubarb, rhythm
After the letters 'ex', e.g. exhausting, exhibition, exhort.
http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/grammar/ ... ers01.html
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Thank you !Dixie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:49 pm ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
Here are three reasons why English has so many silent letters:
Old English was 90% phonemic (words sound the same as they look). But from the beginning of the 15th century, we began to borrow words from other languages. Because grammar and usage rules are different in other languages, adopted words did not follow the rules of English pronunciation.
The English language 'borrowed' the Latin alphabet, and so we have only got 26 letters to represent around 41 different significant sounds. This means that we must attempt to use combinations of letters to represent sounds.
In the Middle English Period William Caxton brought the printing press to England. As time passed, pronunciation continued to change, but the printing press preserved the old spelling. That's why today we have words that end in a silent 'e', or have other silent letters in the middle, like 'might'. In fact, modern day English is only 40% phonemic.
So are there any rules and can they help us? Axel Wijk (Regularized English, 1959, Stockholm: Almqvist & Wiksells) came up with over 100 rules for English spelling. It is claimed that by using these rules, you can spell up to 85% of the words in English with 90% accuracy. But is this really helpful? Basically, no! It gets so complicated that a much easier approach is to memorize sight words.
So you can see that unfortunately there is no clear way to know about all the silent letters in English. But is it a hopeless case? Well, the best we can do is to offer the following list of some silent letters:
Mb at the end of a word (silent b), e.g. comb, lamb, climb.
Sc at the beginning of a word followed by 'e' or 'i', (silent c), e.g. scene, scent, science, scissors (except for the word 'sceptic' and its derivations!).
Kn (silent k), e.g. knife, knock, know.
Mn at the end of a word (silent n), e.g. damn, autumn, column
Ps at the beginning of a word (silent p), e.g. psalm, psychiatry, psychology
Ght (silent gh), e.g. night, ought, taught
Gn at the beginning of a word (silent g), e.g. gnome, gnaw, gnu
Bt (silent b), e.g. debt, doubtful, subtle (but not in some words, e.g. 'obtain', 'unobtrusive'!)
The letter H is silent in the following situations:
At the end of word preceded by a vowel, e.g. cheetah, Sarah, messiah;
Between two vowels, e.g. annihilate, vehement, vehicle
After the letter 'r', e.g. rhyme, rhubarb, rhythm
After the letters 'ex', e.g. exhausting, exhibition, exhort.
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Re: Silent letters!!!!!!!!Why?????
Why some letters have different sounds?
Example; the word CAR starts with a letter C and being pronounced as K. Why don't we use the letter K instead of C and spell it as KAR?
I heard that when the word starts with a letter C followed by a vowel letter is pronounced as K.
But when it followed by the vowel letter (i) as in City there will be no change in the sound.
I don't know, I feel that the English Language is a stupid LANGUAGE.
Example; the word CAR starts with a letter C and being pronounced as K. Why don't we use the letter K instead of C and spell it as KAR?
I heard that when the word starts with a letter C followed by a vowel letter is pronounced as K.
But when it followed by the vowel letter (i) as in City there will be no change in the sound.
I don't know, I feel that the English Language is a stupid LANGUAGE.
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Re: Silent letters!!!!!!!!Why?????
NO IDEAMiss. Ladybird wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:56 pm Words like: Listen – knife – write – night -have silent letters, but why do we use them in English if we don't read them
Any idea?
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Dixie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:05 pm In words beginning with kn, like knife, kneel, knock or know, the initial k used to be pronounced many centuries ago. The sound has been lost nowadays and we do not pronounce it, but we kept the spelling.
The sound gh is not pronounced in the middle of some words, like eight (pronounced like ate) or night.
That's pretty much all I can remember about my Old English classes regarding your question, Miss. Ladybird I'm sorry I cannot add more light into this question, but I will do some research. I know some other members will help us, too.
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Re: Silent letters!!!!!!!!Why?????
fadiraslan wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 4:23 pm Why some letters have different sounds?
Example; the word CAR starts with a letter C and being pronounced as K. Why don't we use the letter K instead of C and spell it as KAR?
I heard that when the word starts with a letter C followed by a vowel letter is pronounced as K.
But when it followed by the vowel letter (i) as in City there will be no change in the sound.
I don't know, I feel that the English Language is a stupid LANGUAGE.
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Dixie wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:45 pm OK my research is giving its fruit
Regarding the KN- spelling at the beginning of a word
The simple answer to this question is that there's always been a k at the beginning of the word, so let me restructure your question to: "why is the 'k' at the beginning of 'knife' silent?"
There is a respectable list of words in Modern English that begin with a written kn- but are pronounced with only an initial n- sound, including your knife as well as knave, knead, knee, knell, knight, knit, knock, knot, know, knuckle, and others.
All of these words stem from Old English forms beginning with cn- (the orthographic change from c to k, which began with the influence of Norman French spelling, is outside the scope of our current discussion), and at the time all were pronounced with an initial k sound before the n. These words were common to the Germanic languages, most of which still pronounce the initial k. Thus, for example, the Old English ancestor of knee was cnéo, pronounced "K'NAY-oh," and the cognate word in Modern German is Knie, pronounced "k'nee."
English dropped the k- sound relatively recently--the change seems to have taken place in educated English during the seventeenth century, meaning that Shakespeare would have pronounced the k- in these words. There were apparently some intermediate pronunciations, with the inital cluster becoming hn- or tn-. The k- remained longer in certain dialects, and some Scots dialects still pronounce it. The relative lateness of the sound change is one reason why the k- is still preserved in writing.
The main reason for the loss of the k- sound is that the kn- cluster is difficult to pronounce. There is no easy explanation for why kn- is too difficult to pronounce in English, but fine for German, Swedish, Dutch, etc., but that's the way these things often work.
I quoted this from http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.p ... e=19980514
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