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the/a/no article with a proper noun

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Hi,

I need to clarify something. I'm writing a manual document that uses a lot of acronyms that are essentially proper nouns for things made by a company XYZ. For example:

AAA - is a type of a bracket
BBB - is a type of a mounting kit

Fix the AAA bracket with the BBB mounting kit.

In this case I use article "the" because AAA/BBB is used as an adjective for the bracket/mounting kit.

Fix AAA with BBB.

In this case there should be no article?
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Your logic seems to be impeccable {-;

Fix the AAA bracket with the BBB mounting kit. :ok:

Fix AAA with BBB. :ok:
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I've got one more question. XYZ is a type of a gps module (a proper noun).

XYZ needs to be installed when Global Navigation Satellite System signal from an external RF GNSS antenna is required.

In this case it's obvious not to use any article.

XYZ GPS module needs to be installed when Global Navigation Satellite System signal from an external RF GNSS antenna is required.

This, however, makes ma a bit confused. Let's say I don't mean any module in particular. Should I write "A XYZ GPS module...." ? It just seems a bit odd at the beginning of a sentence.
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A/An XYZ GPS module needs...
A Samsung phone needs...

Seems fine to me
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I actually have one more question.

"Attach the XYZ to the mounting bracket using four M5 screws."

The M5 screws come with the installation kit, that is described earlier. Should I write "... using the four M5 screws" or the above is correct as well? I mean, it is pretty obvious that the user should use the screws from the assembly kit not some other M5 screws, so is "the" necessary?
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If you are short of space, then without "the" sounds ok. But if you have space, why not use "the"? It would be crystal clear.
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I was afraid not to overuse articles, but if it looks ok then "the" it is :)
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Sounds about right :mrgreen:

Without seeing the entire text, might be hard to say definitively, but in general there should be no problem "overusing" the definitive article. Otherwise it starts to sound like a Russian translation :roll:
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rogigor wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:30 pm Hi,

I need to clarify something. I'm writing a manual document that uses a lot of acronyms that are essentially proper nouns for things made by a company XYZ. For example:

AAA - is a type of a bracket
BBB - is a type of a mounting kit

Fix the AAA bracket with the BBB mounting kit. :ok:

In this case I use article "the" because AAA/BBB is used as an adjective for the bracket/mounting kit.

Fix AAA with BBB. :ok:

In this case there should be no article?
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Joe wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:25 pm Your logic seems to be impeccable {-;

Fix the AAA bracket with the BBB mounting kit. :ok:

Fix AAA with BBB. :ok:
YOU ARE RIGHT
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rogigor wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:31 am I've got one more question. XYZ is a type of a gps module (a proper noun).

XYZ needs to be installed when Global Navigation Satellite System signal from an external RF GNSS antenna is required.

In this case it's obvious not to use any article.

XYZ GPS module needs to be installed when Global Navigation Satellite System signal from an external RF GNSS antenna is required.

This, however, makes ma a bit confused. Let's say I don't mean any module in particular. Should I write "A XYZ GPS module...." ? It just seems a bit odd at the beginning of a sentence.
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Joe wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:41 am A/An XYZ GPS module needs...
A Samsung phone needs...

Seems fine to me
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rogigor wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:11 pm I actually have one more question.

"Attach the XYZ to the mounting bracket using four M5 screws."

The M5 screws come with the installation kit, that is described earlier. Should I write "... using the four M5 screws" or the above is correct as well? I mean, it is pretty obvious that the user should use the screws from the assembly kit not some other M5 screws, so is "the" necessary?
I THINK THE IS NECESSARY
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Joe wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:14 pm If you are short of space, then without "the" sounds ok. But if you have space, why not use "the"? It would be crystal clear.
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Joe wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:30 pm Sounds about right :mrgreen:

Without seeing the entire text, might be hard to say definitively, but in general there should be no problem "overusing" the definitive article. Otherwise it starts to sound like a Russian translation :roll:
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rogigor wrote: Thu Aug 22, 2019 12:18 pm I was afraid not to overuse articles, but if it looks ok then "the" it is :)
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