Who is responsible for motivating students?
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As a teacher, he/she should motivate his/her students to study well. It doesn't have to be English. Learning is gaining one's knowledge, so it's good to learn. He/she should help the students to understand that point; however, I don't think the teachers are responsible for their students's failure if they've already tried their best to help the students. Some students are not willing to learn. It's their business to choose that way. We can't blame everything on the teachers
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I think teacher should be responsible for motivating students to study.Students themselves decide their own result,however.No one could help them except themselves.Students are the center of teaching activity,in which the teacher is just a guider.In my country,there are so many students in a class so the teacher could not control all students in the class.A good teacher will help students find the best way of learning.Is the teacher responsible for motivating students to study? Or is it each student's own responsibility to be interested in learning?
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There's a joke about a student who comes up to a teacher and says: 'I'm not gonna do anything... nor am I gonna come to classes but I pay the money for being taught so in the end I must know everything.' ... :?
The ability to motivate students reflects the level of a teacher's professionalism, it goes without saying. But in the long run it's students who are to acquire the knowledge of the subject being taught.
Responsibility is too a general word.
Resposibility in what? That's what makes all the difference.
The ability to motivate students reflects the level of a teacher's professionalism, it goes without saying. But in the long run it's students who are to acquire the knowledge of the subject being taught.
Responsibility is too a general word.
Resposibility in what? That's what makes all the difference.
So wise and so true. 8) <---- this is for you.GiddyGad wrote: The ability to motivate students reflects the level of a teacher's professionalism, it goes without saying. But in the long run it's students who are to acquire the knowledge of the subject being taught.
Responsibility is too a general word.
Resposibility in what? That's what makes all the difference.
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I think each student should be responsible for studying, We know we learn for ourslves, so why another person have to be responsible for our study. It's a bad way.
But The teacher is the person who has to show the student how to study or research, teacher's task just makes student feel interested in the subject.
Thanks.
But The teacher is the person who has to show the student how to study or research, teacher's task just makes student feel interested in the subject.
Thanks.
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Motivating students:
I think this is very much age determined! Younger students would need more motivation from teachers and parents (or support networks). As they progress the study principles should be starting to gel. I must admit I had a giggle at
The motivation usually comes from interest in the undertaken topic in teenagers.
Older students would definately feel that way. ;)I paid for the course so you should help me pass it.
The motivation usually comes from interest in the undertaken topic in teenagers.
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Oh not only old students. Younger students have that feeling, too. They think all they have to do is pay the course and they'll pass it. Some people still think knowledge can be bought. What a joke!shazzam1452 wrote:I think this is very much age determined! Younger students would need more motivation from teachers and parents (or support networks). As they progress the study principles should be starting to gel. I must admit I had a giggle atOlder students would definately feel that way. ;)I paid for the course so you should help me pass it.
The motivation usually comes from interest in the undertaken topic in teenagers.
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Re: Motivating students:
Oh not only old students. Younger students have that feeling, too. They think all they have to do is pay the course and they'll pass it. Some people still think knowledge can be bought. What a joke! [/quote]
I meant younger students as in (5-10 years). They don't pay for courses.
I meant younger students as in (5-10 years). They don't pay for courses.
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In my view,
both teachers and students are responsible for the motivation.
One-side motivation cannot work.
Students should see how many things the particular subject enables them to do, what are the benefits of studying it.
Teachers should encourage them, especially the best students. Maybe it sounds strange but I know what I am talking about. I am the one of the best students in our class. But I hate English lessons in our school. Our teacher is paying her attention almost always to the worst students, while my level of English is getting worse because I suffer from the lack of training in. It s really horrible, therefore I suggest to divide the students into groups according to the level of their knowledge. Only this way their motivation can increase.
both teachers and students are responsible for the motivation.
One-side motivation cannot work.
Students should see how many things the particular subject enables them to do, what are the benefits of studying it.
Teachers should encourage them, especially the best students. Maybe it sounds strange but I know what I am talking about. I am the one of the best students in our class. But I hate English lessons in our school. Our teacher is paying her attention almost always to the worst students, while my level of English is getting worse because I suffer from the lack of training in. It s really horrible, therefore I suggest to divide the students into groups according to the level of their knowledge. Only this way their motivation can increase.
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Re: Anin
Don't give up if you aren't getting exactly what you need in class. Be MOTIVATED!! Try and find another source to enable you to obtain the level of learning that you are seeking. Extra courses etc!! 8)Anin wrote:In my view,
both teachers and students are responsible for the motivation.
One-side motivation cannot work.
But I hate English lessons in our school. Our teacher is paying her attention almost always to the worst students, while my level of English is getting worse because I suffer from the lack of training in. .
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Re: Anin
You have all my sympathy... but your teacher is 100% right here. Those who need help should get it. You are good at English, so you can help yourself.Anin wrote:...Our teacher is paying her attention almost always to the worst students...
We aren't born equal and we mustn't have equal possibilities. That's where justice contradicts equality. American principles just don't work. Moreover, they rot the world community...
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We have to admit that after all many students pay more attention to other things except learning, though their teachers have tried them best to motivate these students.that is human nature, some people will sucess by himself hard working. and some people will pay the cost for his waste of study times.So teacher being responsible for the motivation just is not enough, student's self-discipline and study interesting are more important than other factors.Arale wrote:I think teacher should be responsible for motivating students to study.Students themselves decide their own result,however.No one could help them except themselves.Students are the center of teaching activity,in which the teacher is just a guider.In my country,there are so many students in a class so the teacher could not control all students in the class.A good teacher will help students find the best way of learning.Is the teacher responsible for motivating students to study? Or is it each student's own responsibility to be interested in learning?
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It seems that many people think that teacher should be the one who is responsible for motivating the students. From my point of view, i think students should motivate themselves. It is no use even if they do not have the motivation to work hard. It is true that for some young students, they can rarely motivate themselves, in this case, i think parents should try to motivate their children to work hard by giving some gifts if their children get good results.
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i believe that if the child was not motivated from the begining it will be a little bit hard to motivate him or her when he or she is older teachers are not resposible alone for motivating students parents share them this responsibility and i believe that not only students of low marks should be motivated but also those of good ones ,we should motivate them continueosly because they may loose this motivation one day especially if they were counting on teachers only or on parents only we should encourage them to get not only the higher marks but also the more iformation and knoledge
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Maybe the word that should be used here is INSPIRE; i think inspiration is something that is needed in learning. Just aniris198783 wrote:It seems that many people think that teacher should be the one who is responsible for motivating the students. From my point of view, i think students should motivate themselves. It is no use even if they do not have the motivation to work hard. It is true that for some young students, they can rarely motivate themselves, in this case, i think parents should try to motivate their children to work hard by giving some gifts if their children get good results.
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Being able to inspire is an add-on, good for any professional, any wise person, unless the one who is inspired awaits (and relies on) being inspired. We all depend on circumstances (even our biology depends on parents... or the Lord's will). But even God expects us to display our own will, our own move, our own deed.
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At the tender age teachers tought us,
Alphabets,numerals, morals and others,
Teachers praised, rewarded us with little gifts or stars,
We felt happy and tended to learn more and fast,
Were they not called motivation?
lots of aspects must be considered during their lessons,
Various approaches and theories have to apply but not mention,
To attract pupils and and get their potency evolves without tension,
Different pupils with different characters and intelligence,
Do you think possible not to include motivation?
Motivation sometimes applies abstractly in teaching and learning,teacher initiates a challenge to create an atmosphere of competition amongst pupils is a motivation! Scrutinising the profession and understand more ,then one will realise the process of teaching and learning must be parallel with motivation.If you are a teacher you would agree with me.
Alphabets,numerals, morals and others,
Teachers praised, rewarded us with little gifts or stars,
We felt happy and tended to learn more and fast,
Were they not called motivation?
lots of aspects must be considered during their lessons,
Various approaches and theories have to apply but not mention,
To attract pupils and and get their potency evolves without tension,
Different pupils with different characters and intelligence,
Do you think possible not to include motivation?
Motivation sometimes applies abstractly in teaching and learning,teacher initiates a challenge to create an atmosphere of competition amongst pupils is a motivation! Scrutinising the profession and understand more ,then one will realise the process of teaching and learning must be parallel with motivation.If you are a teacher you would agree with me.
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Re: motivating students
well,that sounds right.tina wrote:motivating is a two- way issue
firstly the teacher has to be a motivating factor in her classroom ;she has to master her subject matter ,and know how to impact this across to students in a manner that would get interested in learning the language
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Not living in poverty, or a life of meanial labor type jobs.. it is up to the student to be motivated to learn, after all it is their life that will be effected by what they do and do not know, their life will be effected by what they can and can not do, all things must be learned, you can never know to much, but, it is rather easy to not know enough.
It is the teachers job to teach, the best teacher in the world can not teach someone who is unwilling to learn.. a good teacher will never allow any student to not understand the lesson being taught no matter what it takes to help that student to learn what it is they do not understand.
There is a old saying that still holds true.. never try to teach a pig to dance.. it annoys the pig, and wastes the teachers time.
It is the teachers job to teach, the best teacher in the world can not teach someone who is unwilling to learn.. a good teacher will never allow any student to not understand the lesson being taught no matter what it takes to help that student to learn what it is they do not understand.
There is a old saying that still holds true.. never try to teach a pig to dance.. it annoys the pig, and wastes the teachers time.
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It is true to say that there are some important environments which have great deals in motivating students.Firstly, parent's care plays a good role to direct their student's mind & attitude to achieve any sought aim.Secondly, the school & its staff, especially the teacher himself.The successful teacher has great influence to prompt his student.What is essential here & which can be considered as the most important condition, is student's ambition & his desire to improve himself & get high level.Any student who is interested in this of coures will be abl to motivate & encourage himself by himsl far from any social,living &other environments in his life.
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A good teacher will do all they reasonably can to motivate students. But that's not always possible.
As Seafarer said, some students just don't work well in some groups. Some 'collections of students' never become 'a group' in the 'united' sense of the word.
And then again, I'm a teacher and NOT a babysitter. Many students make the mistake of thinking this. Sometimes I ask my students to bring things in to make the class more dynamic, and they don't even bother. I could bring in all the things myself, as the teacher, but I think that they need to take some responsibility for their group and for their own learning experience.
As Seafarer said, some students just don't work well in some groups. Some 'collections of students' never become 'a group' in the 'united' sense of the word.
And then again, I'm a teacher and NOT a babysitter. Many students make the mistake of thinking this. Sometimes I ask my students to bring things in to make the class more dynamic, and they don't even bother. I could bring in all the things myself, as the teacher, but I think that they need to take some responsibility for their group and for their own learning experience.
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AGREE TO Lynne
YEAH I AGREE MOST OF WHAT YOU SAID.I VE BEEN TEACHING QUITE MANY CLASSES AND I MAY SAY IT DEPENDS ON TWO SIDES -THE TEACHERS AND THE STUDENTS TO MAKE THE LEARNINGTIME INTERESTING.HOWEVER IT;S DEPEND MOST ON THE STUDENT'S FORCE OF LEARNING.IF THEY SET UP A GOAL OF GOING ABROAD STUDYING ,YOU WOULDN'T WASTE MUCH SALIVA. :P :D
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I think that motivating students is not teachers' job , teacher only can show you right way.
In my academy where i study there's a lector who always is motivating students to study, but few
students study. I think that if you want really to get a knowledges then you don't need wait when somebody
will motivate you.
In my academy where i study there's a lector who always is motivating students to study, but few
students study. I think that if you want really to get a knowledges then you don't need wait when somebody
will motivate you.
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Briefly, I think adults should be self-motivated and children become interested in learning English due to a teacher.
Learning English is a rather difficult task for most adults. It easily might take two or three or even more years to become good at it. Personally I've met enough people who started learning English and then after some time stoped going to lessons and doing homework. Apart from time it requires a lot of efforts to archive results. It seems that only self-motivated students manage to get though this process. So I believe that in this case the only role of
a teacher is to use an effective methodology.
As for childern it's a completely different picture. Often they simply like playing and definetely aren't focused on their future career. So the process of education must be interesting and lessons must be entertaining. Therefore teachers are responsible for motivating and encouraging their young students.
Learning English is a rather difficult task for most adults. It easily might take two or three or even more years to become good at it. Personally I've met enough people who started learning English and then after some time stoped going to lessons and doing homework. Apart from time it requires a lot of efforts to archive results. It seems that only self-motivated students manage to get though this process. So I believe that in this case the only role of
a teacher is to use an effective methodology.
As for childern it's a completely different picture. Often they simply like playing and definetely aren't focused on their future career. So the process of education must be interesting and lessons must be entertaining. Therefore teachers are responsible for motivating and encouraging their young students.
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teacher.........
people ofen say when studying a learner is a kind of inner cause and the teacher is aknd of exteral cause. exteral cause is decided by inner cause. that it to say they believe a student should motivate him/hersekf first, but just like a seed if it is put aside insted of burry it into soild or be watered, it won't sprouting forever.
a learn is just like the seed and the teacher is the one who helps the seed sprout.
So in this sence teacher is crucial in learning....
a learn is just like the seed and the teacher is the one who helps the seed sprout.
So in this sence teacher is crucial in learning....
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I think the students themselves and their classmates are two first motivations.
The students innitially must have a good sense of studying as well as set themselves dreams and ambitions for their future. Then students will try their best to obtain them.
There's no class in which all students are equally shrewd or clever. That creates rivalry. Feeling that they are inferior, students will have an inspiration to 'overtake' their friends, which is a stimulus for their studying. Moreover, during that 'contest', they can be good fellows who are ready to help each other advance.
The students innitially must have a good sense of studying as well as set themselves dreams and ambitions for their future. Then students will try their best to obtain them.
There's no class in which all students are equally shrewd or clever. That creates rivalry. Feeling that they are inferior, students will have an inspiration to 'overtake' their friends, which is a stimulus for their studying. Moreover, during that 'contest', they can be good fellows who are ready to help each other advance.
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It's the responsibility of all stakeholders. The students themselves, teachers, family, environment, government and education institutions should be responsible for this. The learning-teaching process would only be effective if all parties participated actively in building a healthy atmosphere to the process. But sadly, it seems that the responsibility is always put on the teacher's shoulder.
Usually, if a student fails something then people will blame it on the teacher. What an injustice!!! On the other hand, if a student passes the class or very good at something, then the parents will usually say "My child is indeed smart". It seems that the smartness of the student is something purely inherited from their parents. There's no teachers factor in this success. What an injustice!!! What a partial!!!
Usually, if a student fails something then people will blame it on the teacher. What an injustice!!! On the other hand, if a student passes the class or very good at something, then the parents will usually say "My child is indeed smart". It seems that the smartness of the student is something purely inherited from their parents. There's no teachers factor in this success. What an injustice!!! What a partial!!!
My friend, one of the latest issues in the education system is how to get the students to compete with themselves instead of getting the students to compete to their classmates. I can not elaborate any further on this because this is not a suitable post to talk about it. I'll elaborate this if there is a special topic on the education system. However, my point is do not always compare one student to another as don't compare one child to another. Because everybody is unique.ngphuongtu wrote:There's no class in which all students are equally shrewd or clever. That creates rivalry. Feeling that they are inferior, students will have an inspiration to 'overtake' their friends, which is a stimulus for their studying. Moreover, during that 'contest', they can be good fellows who are ready to help each other advance.
I agree with you in some points. The process of education must be interesting. That's why teachers must be creative in delivering the lessons. But again my friend, Teachers is just one factor in the learning-teaching process. It will never work if other parties including the students themselves do not support this. So my friend, the teachers' shoulders are too weak to hold all the overloaded stuff. Let's avoid putting teachers as the scapegoat.wllsp wrote:So, the process of education must be interesting and lessons must be entertaining. Therefore teachers are responsible for motivating and encouraging their young students.
My friend, I am absolutely in line with you on this. Is anybody else with us?wllsp wrote:I think that the teacher's role is very important, but many things depend on family and a system of education.
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whose fault is it to teach a pig to dance? the pig?
Whose fault is it to teach a pig to dance, the pig or the teacher? I think the teacher is ridiculous to teach a pig to dance. It only means the teacher doesn't know how to choose appropriate contents to teach for the pig. An ancient philosopher in China told us 3000 years ago that teachers should teach students according to their needs and abilities. There are always differences between students. Some students are good at learning knowledge at classrooms. Some students are good at showing skills in solving practical problems. Maybe some students aren’t interested in learning in classrooms, that doesn’t mean these students have incapability in learning. A good teacher always tries to guide students to understand themselves and encourage students to fulfill their aims.Dixie wrote:Brilliant!Archer wrote: There is a old saying that still holds true.. never try to teach a pig to dance.. it annoys the pig, and wastes the teachers time.
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Re: whose fault is it to teach a pig to dance? the pig?
Dear jeffatbohui
Supernaturally speaking, you don't like teaching pigs. You are not an animal teacher. You are not a philosopher because you like quoting old sayings from someone else.
Psychologically speaking, you are not ridiculous. You are a creative person. You know how to select something appropriately.
Universally speaking, you are right saying that every student is different from another.
Yeah, every body is unique.
Every student is unique.
So, different student, different approach.
Psychological analyzing, you know how to be a good teacher dude.
Keep teaching dear.
You are a potential teacher.
Long live teachers.
Supernaturally speaking, you don't like teaching pigs. You are not an animal teacher. You are not a philosopher because you like quoting old sayings from someone else.
Psychologically speaking, you are not ridiculous. You are a creative person. You know how to select something appropriately.
Universally speaking, you are right saying that every student is different from another.
Yeah, every body is unique.
Every student is unique.
So, different student, different approach.
Psychological analyzing, you know how to be a good teacher dude.
Keep teaching dear.
You are a potential teacher.
Long live teachers.
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The interest of the student will always depend on the teacher.
Who would like to sit in a class with a yawning teacher in front.
Each student is different from the other and the teacher should be able to embrace them all. And I think more attention should be given to those whom they can't motivate easily. Besides, isn't it more rewarding to see greater improvement in the future.
Students can be compared to a plant if you take good care of it you'll see it flourish and yield good harvest.
The interest of the student will always depend on the teacher.
Who would like to sit in a class with a yawning teacher in front.
Each student is different from the other and the teacher should be able to embrace them all. And I think more attention should be given to those whom they can't motivate easily. Besides, isn't it more rewarding to see greater improvement in the future.
Students can be compared to a plant if you take good care of it you'll see it flourish and yield good harvest.
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Re: Who is responsible for motivating students?
I think you're missing the most important people to a student: their parents. Everything starts at home.TalkingPoint wrote:Is the teacher responsible for motivating students to study? Or is it each student's own responsibility to be interested in learning?
What do YOU think?
Of what use is the motivation given by teachers when the student does not feel emotionally motivated within his/her own family group?
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Re: Who is responsible for motivating students?
I think both. The teacher ought to make her or his greatest efforts to help the students, try to arouse their interests in study. For example, give them a praise for their every progress and no matter how small it is.TalkingPoint wrote:Is the teacher responsible for motivating students to study? Or is it each student's own responsibility to be interested in learning?
What do YOU think?
On the other hand, as a sudent, you must be responsible for youself. There is no one who can help you all the life. You have to learn to do your own things independently, like study and work.
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Re: Who is responsible for motivating students?
1oo% the teachers are responsible to motivate their students..As i knew that there is no bad students as well as there is bad teachers...