Do people have the right to die how they choose?

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Re: I Dont Agree

Postby Shazzam » Tue May 17, 2005 8:59 am

Are you saying that to people who have said 'God gives me life so he should end it and not anyone'???????[/quote]

I'm not saying anything regarding people's religious beliefs one way or another. All I'm saying is that the whole debate seems to being about God (religion; of one description or another; holy wars. etc). I find that the original debate has been lost somewhere. Thats all.

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Re: I Dont Agree

Postby Guest » Tue May 17, 2005 10:28 am

shazzam1452 wrote: I'm not saying anything regarding people's religious beliefs one way or another. All I'm saying is that the whole debate seems to being about God (religion; of one description or another; holy wars. etc). I find that the original debate has been lost somewhere. Thats all.

Well, I didn't really wanna go into further discussion when some other people were trying to link religion with right to die because to them, other people, were not allowed to end their lives; it'd go against God's creation, but then I had to state my 'holy war' definition because some people who believe in God or tell others who think another different way are sick. I did not know being different or having different opinions than people who believe in God could make me become a sick person. Sometimes, life is a colorful picture to learn about people and your surroundings, ain't it? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Re: I Dont Agree

Postby Shazzam » Wed May 18, 2005 10:59 am

simplyblessedwithlove wrote:[Well, I didn't really wanna go into further discussion when some other people were trying to link religion with right to die because to them, other people, were not allowed to end their lives; it'd go against God's creation, but then I had to state my 'holy war' definition because some people who believe in God or tell others who think another different way are sick. I did not know being different or having different opinions than people who believe in God could make me become a sick person. :


I never said that I thought you were sick! I don't know where you got that from. I certainly never said that in anything that i wrote. :roll:

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Re: I Dont Agree

Postby Guest » Wed May 18, 2005 6:39 pm

shazzam1452 wrote:
simplyblessedwithlove wrote:[Well, I didn't really wanna go into further discussion when some other people were trying to link religion with right to die because to them, other people, were not allowed to end their lives; it'd go against God's creation, but then I had to state my 'holy war' definition because some people who believe in God or tell others who think another different way are sick. I did not know being different or having different opinions than people who believe in God could make me become a sick person. :


I never said that I thought you were sick! I don't know where you got that from. I certainly never said that in anything that i wrote. :roll:

Not you, sweetie. It was another person whom posted before my post of holy war definition. I was explaining to that person why I thought some persons were sick regardless of having a religion or not.

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Postby Dithzie » Sun May 29, 2005 2:03 pm

That's what free will is for, I personally believe. Every person has a right to die, if he so wishes. It's a matter of choice.
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Being a muslim,

Postby mrnadeemkhan » Sun Jun 05, 2005 12:14 am

simplyblessedwithlove wrote:Yes! All personal will should be respected either it's orally wish or documentally wish.

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Being a mulsim , our faith is that, Allah makes the whole universe even the human being is masterpiece with a brain, which have unbelieveable thinking power, has already written the whole life and even the situation of death. nobody can decide the way of death, or can die by their own. Everyone knows the right and wrong doings, so its up to them , whethen they choose write or wrong, .
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I think everyone has his right to end his life

Postby sunnyni » Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:00 am

In my opinion, everyone has his right to end his life.
First , Yes ,no one has right to choose his birth. But after his birth, he has all the right of his body and mind. He can bring up his own view to the world, he can do more practice for his health or not and he has right to subscribe his organ to help others.These are all decided by himself. so of cause he has right to end his life for the better life of his relative and lover.
Second,someone may say the people who chose end his life when he face the difficulty is craven. From some aspect, it seems he is , but maybe difference people cherish difference things, such as dignity , passion and faith. Such as some people want to die with dignity , he want beautiful face and body after he die. He don't want to die dingygily. So he chose end his life himself.

So difference people has difference view to death, why do they don't have right even for death.

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Watch this movie

Postby tikay » Sat Jan 07, 2006 10:18 pm

Last night I watched and read (subtitles) in Spanish a very good movie, for myself anyway...on this subject and my opinion is not that important on the subject becuase it constantly changes...this is a hard one. Anyway I agree and disagree with a lot of things in the thread so maybe I will add to it after more thought. :idea: it is good to hear (read)the passion about it
(my humble opinion)...bye-4-now

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Postby tikay » Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:51 am

UH OH...I was afraid of that...I forgot the name of the movie yesterday....so sorry! If you want to watch it ...see the movie THE SEA INSIDE....very controversial ending, I assure you.
I believe that basically people should have the right to leave the earth...to come and go as they please. But then I am coming from the live and let live generation of the sixties.
so that is just natural for me. I do have to say i have written in here that suicide is selfish ....so i am still undecided about generalities I suppose....it is all about the circumstances.
I highly suggest that movie (The Sea Inside) to any one interested in the subject.
Thanks to the Buddhist fellow who does not believe in godhead...a good thing for me to think about because I have been calling myself Buddhist but I absolutely believe in all Gods and in all Goddess(es)....interesting no?
everyone is so interesting really!

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Postby shokin » Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:19 pm

I did not know that many people wondered about their way of dying. :lol:

Let us choose the most ecological way of leaving the living.

But let you think and choose. When you'll be ded, who will know how you did want to die. :lol:

I want to die on 24 June 2060 at 13.57.43. in the middle of Amazonian forest and by a general tumor. I want my body to be burn and the ashes have to be put in equal parts at each cataracts of the Nil. My debts to Wallmart and my goods to WWF. :lol: :twisted: :lol:

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funny boy....

Postby tikay » Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:51 pm

I want to die on 24 June 2060 at 13.57.43. in the middle of Amazonian forest and by a general tumor. I want my body to be burn and the ashes have to be put in equal parts at each cataracts of the Nil. My debts to Wallmart and my goods to WWF. :lol: :twisted: :lol:

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that is so cute and funny....
I want to be perhaps smashed by a tree falling in the Brazillan Forest and heavy equipment stops for even one day because of the accident....
or beaten by thugs who when my gashes open realize there are better ways to live life, changing their (horrible) ways when they see the depth of the color of my blood (it is so saturated...so dark red it is almost purple or black)
....or eaten by cannibols because i wondered into their incampment after much exploring in the vicinity...let my soul be relished by people who then go crazy with the force of love...
that lived in this poets heart.
Thanks! (that is better than the boring version given me by the Indian holy man at the courthouse...96 years old, in my sleep...who is that gonna affect?) BIG SMILE. :D :wink:

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american lady....

Postby tikay » Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:45 pm

American...born to be a child of the sixties...in Tennessee.

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Re: !

Postby MissLT » Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:18 pm

tikay wrote:Thanks to the Buddhist fellow who does not believe in godhead...a good thing for me to think about because I have been calling myself Buddhist but I absolutely believe in all Gods and in all Goddess(es)....interesting no?
everyone is so interesting really!

You've adapted Buddhism as a second religion of yours, and that's why you still believe in God and stuff. If you were born as a Buddhist or just practice Buddhism, you wouldn't believe in God. Buddhists don't tight themselves to a Creator and live their lives as just to pay their sins or wait for the Judgment Day. We have no Judgment Day. We are not born because of our sins. We are here because of our karma. And our purpose is to reach Nibbana, not to wait for God to judge what we did in our lives. Well, we're not gonna wait since we have no God, anyway.

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Higher than man is his maker

Postby Antti » Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:33 am

Man has not right to live as he chooses. He is made to love other people and his Maker. Many do not believe this, and every seeing eye sees the consequences. So man has not right to choose the length of life of himself or of other people. The life be in the hands of the Giver of life..

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Postby tikay » Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:45 am

I have adapted every insight to include it in my doctrine of ethical conditioning on myself...karma enters in but sometimes it also leaves...i am like a building with an open door...the library is only part of the make up and the spiritual books are merely there to learn from and for me to adapt...and only when the music room is not the focus for me...or the childrens playroom... or the room of arts and sciences, or of sensual pleasures. :idea: basically I have a self-made religion, based on my own life, which would probably take years to explain...so i dont even try....people are not nearly ready anyway.
I guess it is based on completeness through education, oneness with spirit, and simple life experiences....adapting each moment to find the highest in me...regardless of the actions of the next person.
life is decision, action, event, affect, work, making love, learning and...being...God desires do not exist when there is no separation....just try to be here now...and maybe realise you are your own actual co-creator, along with others who will and have molded and changed you...which is everyone, really.


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where in Italy???

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Postby desertman » Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:10 pm

Every man die,but not every man really live.

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Re: hagandaz

Postby vahid » Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:39 am

In my opinon this refers to people s attitue toward the next world or whether there is any world beside this world in which we are living or not .
when people die they must answer back whatever they did in the world good or bad doesnot matter .
hence this is a fact if we think before doing something we wont be regret so we wont affrait of daeath . but if we are nutorious (bad- known) we like to die without any problem which is impossible .

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Postby sar » Tue Nov 07, 2006 12:53 am

We don’t own our life, something or somebody else give us life; therefore, we should not make decision in how to live or die, we should leave this process to nature.

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Postby Laxuan » Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:30 am

I think nobody want to die so why they need to choose how to die. In any situations, we should struggle to survive.

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Postby sar » Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:32 pm

Laxuan wrote:I think nobody want to die so why they need to choose how to die. In any situations, we should struggle to survive.



I am agree, because, death is natural, like life itself.

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Postby Vega » Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:57 pm

sar wrote:
Laxuan wrote:I think nobody want to die so why they need to choose how to die. In any situations, we should struggle to survive.



I am agree, because, death is natural, like life itself.


I agree with you absolutely. If someone wanna die, why
need to prevent it, this is his/here decision and only
he/she will responsible before God.


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