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From the replies , I concluded that many people believe that success is not wealth and position. It is defined as if one person can do what he want . So what you want to do now? Learning English? Maybe now we are all not success. If we want to sucess, we must have wealth , i think this is a basic condition. so you come here to study English for a better future.
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sunnyni wrote:From the replies , I concluded that many people believe that success is not wealth and position. It is defined as if one person can do what he want . So what you want to do now? Learning English? Maybe now we are all not success. If we want to sucess, we must have wealth , i think this is a basic condition. so you come here to study English for a better future.
Some people study English just to know another language, to communicate with other peoplw who know how to speak English, etc. It doesn't have to be for your own future job. Well, speaking more than one language does benefit you for getting a better job, which is a better salary; however, what if you were a retired person who were learning another language? What do you say about those cases?
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LennyeTran wrote:
sunnyni wrote:From the replies , I concluded that many people believe that success is not wealth and position. It is defined as if one person can do what he want . So what you want to do now? Learning English? Maybe now we are all not success. If we want to sucess, we must have wealth , i think this is a basic condition. so you come here to study English for a better future.
Some people study English just to know another language, to communicate with other peoplw who know how to speak English, etc. It doesn't have to be for your own future job. Well, speaking more than one language does benefit you for getting a better job, which is a better salary; however, what if you were a retired person who were learning another language? What do you say about those cases?[/qu

I just want to give a instance.
I always can't do the thing that i want for i have not enough money. So i am not successful. Maybe the wealth people can't do what they want to do too. In the buddha , Greed is the enemy of the human. Everyone will be successful if he has no greed.
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sunnyni!!!
What 's the diffirence between money and success in you!
to many people, family, job, social standing, knowledge is more important. If we can combine all perfectly, we will be successful
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sunnyni wrote: In the buddha , Greed is the enemy of the human. Everyone will be successful if he has no greed.
Yes, but wanting things for you or taking things that are not yours because you want them are greed. However, doing things for others or helping others is one of many ways to be successful, and it's not a greed. They are not a greed because you don't want thing for yourself or others. You help them because it's a part of one human being should do to another, and they'll be happy because of your help since you're a sincere person who just help without asking something back in return; therefore, to some people it could be a success because it's a part of the goals to them-- helping others when you could without asking something back in return. If you help people to get them to like you, then it's a part of a greed, for you've helped people with a purpose. It's not a genuine act.
About setting goals and wanting to achieve them are also greed; however, I think there are levels of greed. Not all greed are just plain bad. For instance, your greed based on the happiness of others could be a good or a bad thing. If your greed will make them happy, then is it good or bad? I think you know the answer. If your greed will take away their happiness, then I think you know it's a good or bad thing, right?
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Yes, it is me neglect the other side meaning of the greed.

Each time we dicuss the problem, we have to balance the both side of it, bad and good.
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Oh,Phu said about napoleon.
He is my idol.!!!I often get aggressive as him

I admire his talent,his character.His life is an immortal epic!!!

All my love for him!!
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hello everyone, I just wanna say that i completely agree with what Bob Dylan said.... to me, if u go to bed and u did wat u wanted during the day then ur successful no doubt there. success is mistakingly perceived these days as doing sth that brings alot of money and move u up in social class..i say success is doing wat u want and being happy and satisfied....I believe that's the meaning of life:)
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Idea is a secret of success
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“Success” is the expectation of humans, if one has the strong determination to work it out , I’m sure, he/she will succeed.Merely have an idea is insufficient,sould have actions,ready to face and solve problems,and...must not give up.

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I wonder if there is any Vietnamese, except me, in this forum.
Following is the link of a Vietnamese girl saying about what success is.
http://www19.dantri.com.vn/giaoduc-khuy ... 148550.vip
I agree with Bob Dylan. Most people think of success as some difficult thing to get. But to Bob Dylan, the above girl and me, success is what you can do like the way you want :D
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And internet means business. :lol: :twisted: :lol:

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candykhkh wrote:I wonder if there is any Vietnamese, except me, in this forum.
Following is the link of a Vietnamese girl saying about what success is.
http://www19.dantri.com.vn/giaoduc-khuy ... 148550.vip
I agree with Bob Dylan. Most people think of success as some difficult thing to get. But to Bob Dylan, the above girl and me, success is what you can do like the way you want :D
Hi,

I agree with your point of views, they are your expectations, once you have got what you need/like, you feel happy and satisfied, right? So success is just that,I understand that. .It is normal.

But, sometimes the basic needs (food, clothing, sleep, shelter, security) are just difficult to get in a war-torn country and starvation area whereby they have to rob and kill to get these needs …..)For us these things are plenty and excessive.So, we don't feel difficult to get.

When humans have sufficient of these basic needs, they want something else to upgrade their lives , such as: friends, family, children, car, washing machine , better education, better job and so forth. After having all these, do you think humans will stop expecting? No, right? The expectation just keep on moving ahead. Besides material/money , humans are also expect for respectability from others, popularity , fame and…....ceaseless.

Amazing, right ? This is mundane. Thus, humans’ desires are ceaseless until the end of their lives. Once the expectations are there, humans need to work them out, some are easy to achieve but some are not. Without any expectation is not a human.

Therefore, to hit the target, easy or difficult it depends on you, what are you, where are you......
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LennyeTran wrote:
shokin wrote:Why to want to be successfull ?
There are million reasons why one wants to be successful. For instance, being successful so you can give things back to the community, family, and others; being successful so you can help others without having a feeling you can't do much help because you can't even help yourself; being successful so you will have the opportunity to take care of your parents when they get older, and not putting them in nursing home like other insensitive children; or being successful so you can provide your children a better education, a better understanding about giving and sharing the wells. Anyway, I can give you my million reasons if you'd like to :wink: .


I quite agree with your opinion .to me now ,i study in a university of China .An d I will finish it an d get my bachelor degree next summer .and in the following years ,i will study two years to get my graduate degree .however ,i have o dreem that oneday i can study in usa even when i was a child .an d to a foreign er ,english is a second language and to pass toefl and gre is not a easy thing for me .but ,since i have the dream ,i get up early in the moring and study lately untill evenings .all my cultivation comes from my dream .maybe in 2009 i will maybe in the american land .wish me good luck .
(wish frends all over the world pick up my mistakes when i express my opininon using english ,help me improve my english ability ,thanks to all).
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happysmile wrote:In a book about success and luck, the author said that success can be come from luck. And luck doesn't come twice , we have to catch it as soon as we touch it.
He also compare luck by chance with manmade luck, because not all of luck leads to success, we have to know how to make a luck for ourseves. That success would be long-lasting.


luck or chance is of course important to a person's success .and under certain curcumstances ,it plays a grave important role in the way to success .however ,i also want to say .besides luck or chance ,what we also should do is that prepare for it .In china ,there is a old saying says like that opertunity always gives chances to those who make good preparation .
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LennyeTran wrote:
sunnyni wrote: In the buddha , Greed is the enemy of the human. Everyone will be successful if he has no greed.

Yes, but wanting things for you or taking things that are not yours because you want them are greed. However, doing things for others or helping others is one of many ways to be successful, and it's not a greed. They are not a greed because you don't want thing for yourself or others. You help them because it's a part of one human being should do to another, and they'll be happy because of your help since you're a sincere person who just help without asking something back in return; therefore, to some people it could be a success because it's a part of the goals to them-- helping others when you could without asking something back in return. If you help people to get them to like you, then it's a part of a greed, for you've helped people with a purpose. It's not a genuine act.
About setting goals and wanting to achieve them are also greed; however, I think there are levels of greed. Not all greed are just plain bad. For instance, your greed based on the happiness of others could be a good or a bad thing. If your greed will make them happy, then is it good or bad? I think you know the answer. If your greed will take away their happiness, then I think you know it's a good or bad thing, right?


Yes ,it is ture to say like that .And i remember ,J.F.Kennedy,a late American president,once said "Ask not what your country can do for you, Ask what you can do for your conutry".Yet I want to say "Ask not what others can do for you ,Ask what you can do for others".
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hi all, in my opinion we can't define success. I think everyone has difernt ways of feeling he/she succed in his/her life. what i want to mean is that we are diferent from each other so we fell success diferently.
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H wrote:Success is something that you have acheived what you want.
you can get success by doing well, becoming famous or rich. To put it more simply, when you are comfortable and not feeling uneasy, you are successful. I must say you can obtain success when you meet your desires and targets. However, I belive in this material world; success is through money, by getting good education, having properties, car, bank balance and soforth.

sometimes I thinks this is not adequate to be successful. Can you win hearts through money? Can you buy the love (genuine) of girl, the love of parents and the love of humans etc.

Does the money play a vital role in success?

I agree with you
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When humans have sufficient of these basic needs, they want something else to upgrade their lives , such as: friends, family, children, car, washing machine , better education, better job and so forth. After having all these, do you think humans will stop expecting? No, right? The expectation just keep on moving ahead. Besides material/money , humans are also expect for respectability from others, popularity , fame and…....ceaseless.
Your are right, my friend. We always have incessant and varying needs increasing to the ever changing society. We seem never satisfied with anything we obtained and our desire keeps moving ahead. It turns our that happiness in any success becomes so relative, more exactly, nothing called absolute success. That's the reality we all must accept in life.
Amazing, right ? This is mundane. Thus, humans’ desires are ceaseless until the end of their lives. Once the expectations are there, humans need to work them out, some are easy to achieve but some are not. Without any expectation is not a human.
So where is the success ? It's all up to your capability ? Not sure . Many persons have some ability to do something, yet they looks to be unsuccessful in other aspects. In most of the cases, the right time and the right place, let alone some fortune, ocassionaly plays a vital role in deciding the success of anyone.
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Success is made of many many smaller ones- such as many little steps on a path. For me success is when I see the smile of someone smilling at me, when i realise I didn't do something bad just few minutes ago, when i can close my eyes and all I see is soft, smiling light inside of me, when i see the thankfulness in someone's eyes, that I have just helped, the feelling of satisfaction after a well- done job, the feeling when u realise that u have just understood something new in life, something which pushes u one step ahaid, the feeling when u know u are always on one step to your dreams, the fact that this morning I woke up with smile on my face and love in my heart, success is when I can rely on someone, when someone grabs my hand and smile at me. Success is when one day when u are old u can sit on a chair turn back to your life and say: I could live it once again the same.
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You are the only judge of your success.



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anyone here who have read The Secret?
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What you can succeed in your career life is to do the best that you possiblly can do!!!
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TalkingPoint wrote:Bob Dylan said: "A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and gets to bed at night, and in between he does what he wants to do." To what extent do you agree with this definition?
Yes. For me the work is more rewarding if we like what we are doing... the good aura I think can be seen by others thru the outcome of our works...
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Success is when you achieve all the things that you aim at, for eg. finishing university, getting the job you like and want, earning good money , having friends, a girl to love, staying healthy, thinking about having a great family. For working hard it´s neccesary for success , a bit of luck, a lot of optimism, and mainly happiness {-:
it´s important to be always prepeared to overcome the problems that can appear and learn from them ;-)
Good luck with you goals ;-)
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Success is when you achieve all the things that you aim at, for eg. finishing university, getting the job you like and want, earning good money , having friends, a girl to love, staying healthy, thinking about having a great family. For working hard it´s neccesary for success , a bit of luck, a lot of optimism, and mainly happiness {-:
it´s important to be always prepeared to overcome the problems that can appear and learn from them ;-)
Good luck with you goals ;-)
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Talk less...and be busy with what u're doing...this is the success
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TalkingPoint wrote:Bob Dylan said: "A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and gets to bed at night, and in between he does what he wants to do." To what extent do you agree with this definition?
i have strong faith that you will get that which is in your destiny...... hard working and edcuation are somehow useless things becuase man receives that Allah has written in his luck and destiny.......
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I am sorry for not reading through the topic with so many posts. In my own opinion, a success is one who has passion for what he does and understands what life is like. A success is realistic, patient and self-driven. I don't want to say it in such a simple way, but I think success has a price. Moreover, one can succeed in one or some aspects but he may be far behind in other aspects. To be successful is to focus most of your energy, creation on a certain thing. The most success may be who knows where and when to put his passion and attention as well as knows how to apply his skills and abilities effectively. And finally and surely, a success will do what he wants to do, if the saying is implied as "he dares to do what he wants to".
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i would say that success more than anything else, happens when you're really happen with the person you are.

Quoting the famous singer "James Blunt". The most successful person he has ever met is a a old friend from school that stills living with his family on a caravan and travelling through many places.

And i trully believe on that ;)
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If you are followed these stops then no doubt success will be in your hand.
and a big thing is that for once to be success is to must understand the nature of human being.

1. Steps to a successful life
2. Cultivate the right attitude
3. Think about the consequences
4. Create a base / Foundation for yourself
5. Set your objectives
6. Acquire the necessary information
7. Deal with your fears
8. Hard work
9. Learn from your mistakes
10. Motivate yourself
11. Trust in God
12. Be courageous
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"The Secret" film gives us the secret of success - The Law of Attraction. It explains why somebody are successful and happy and others are not.
Watch it and you'll see.
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everyone needs success . my dad always says ,"as a real man ,you need success ."
In our society , people will respect you if you are successful , this is the real life .
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Nice topic....

To succeed in my opinion is be different, daring and be there first....
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Happiness is success and to be happy it's not about fulfilling your needs. On the contrary it's all about doing what is right in God's eyes - to train your conscience and to have necessary fear so that you are going to make the correct decisions. The more you are busy in doing the will of God then the more God will be busy in giving us his blessing. We can expect real opposition in this world because the vast majority of folks just do things their own way, not knowing what force controls the world. So they go on doing the things that are in accordance with the ruler of this world and their thoughts are aligned in this way. In short they ignore what God's word invokes them to do. Read Matthew 6:33.
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The first thing, I think you have to definition what is "success" for you? Everyone thinks different definition of their success. Someone thinks that their family is health and get together. That is a kind of success. Moreover, somebody thinks if they can earn lots of money. That will be success for them. Besides, I think Bob Dylan means “diligent” in some thing that you want, that will be success in that thing. For this reason, I agree that definition in sometime.
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they are reasons for success: maslow we give motivation pyramid the last explain why the humain doing!
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There are many “Secrets of Success”. First of all, Bob Dylan said: "A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and gets to bed at night, and in between he does what he wants to do." That means “diligent” in some thing if you want to do. Everyone has different definition to their success. Someone thinks that their family is healthy and get together. That is a kind of success. Moreover, somebody thinks if they can earn lots of money. That will be success for them. In my opinion, I think that will be a successful person if you have enough money and healthy body for you. For this reason, I believe you will be success if you work hard in something what you want. I agree Bob Dylan’s meaning.
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Success is when you reached your own goal !
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I'am agree with Bob Dylan. I think a man is a success when he's well in his body and in his head.
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The measure of success is different for everyone. It can be being able to walk properly for a child, being self-contained and independent for a person with a disability of some kind, learning a foreign language, having a loving family, or a big house, or reaching the highest step on career ladder for some ambitious businessman.Whatever it is, if it makes you feel content with what you've achieved, it is YOUR success.
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Being able to do what you want to do IS a success, but it's so hard to achieve!
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TalkingPoint wrote:Bob Dylan said: "A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and gets to bed at night, and in between he does what he wants to do." To what extent do you agree with this definition?
The man is a success, when he is happy and fulfilled. Doing what you want protects him form troubles and conflicts, what happens a man is not success. If someone is cheerful there is no reasons that this guy can't name a man of success.
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a succesful man is anyone that always thinks positive and doesn't depend others person
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I agree with Bob Dylan, because I think people should do what they want or love. If you will pursue your dream you will be a success. Also a success depends on working hard - you have to try to give as much as possible and feel that you fulfill your goal during the day. Optimism is also very improtant, because you have to believe that you can do it and when you think that way you can be sure that you will be a success.
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For everybody success can has some diffrent meaning, but in my point of view success is when we experience following day our life in which we are not limited and we can do what we like and want and when we are reaching earlier established target because achive it will be a success for us.
So, let's do what we like and achive the aim and let's be happy of our success.
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In my mind not everyone is a success when he is doing what he want. Often people feel a lack of something. I think the other person in our life could fill it out. I believe that trust, helping each other and support is a very important part of our lives. ;-)
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I don't agree with this definition of success because in our life the most important is to have a good friends and do something to help them if they have some problem. What is more I don't think that the success is when we get up, get to bed at night and do in the day what we want because it is a simply thing which we do in every day.
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In my opinion success depends on working hard and our commitment in this what we want to do. It is possible if you are persistent in doing it.
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I agree with this definition. In my opinion if you aren't happy and you don't love your job you couldn't be success. When you do something what you hate you can't achieve your goal so you wuoldn't be succeed.
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