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Postby phucauto3 » Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:28 pm

success, by definition, mean achieving your objects. Thus a successful person must be an individual that accomplishes his objectives more often than he fails to do so. Success is largely defined by measures such as wealth, position, status. In addition success is measured by one's capabilities

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Postby sunnyni » Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:50 am

From the replies , I concluded that many people believe that success is not wealth and position. It is defined as if one person can do what he want . So what you want to do now? Learning English? Maybe now we are all not success. If we want to sucess, we must have wealth , i think this is a basic condition. so you come here to study English for a better future.

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Postby MissLT » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:02 pm

sunnyni wrote:From the replies , I concluded that many people believe that success is not wealth and position. It is defined as if one person can do what he want . So what you want to do now? Learning English? Maybe now we are all not success. If we want to sucess, we must have wealth , i think this is a basic condition. so you come here to study English for a better future.

Some people study English just to know another language, to communicate with other peoplw who know how to speak English, etc. It doesn't have to be for your own future job. Well, speaking more than one language does benefit you for getting a better job, which is a better salary; however, what if you were a retired person who were learning another language? What do you say about those cases?

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Postby sunnyni » Thu Sep 15, 2005 2:52 am

LennyeTran wrote:
sunnyni wrote:From the replies , I concluded that many people believe that success is not wealth and position. It is defined as if one person can do what he want . So what you want to do now? Learning English? Maybe now we are all not success. If we want to sucess, we must have wealth , i think this is a basic condition. so you come here to study English for a better future.

Some people study English just to know another language, to communicate with other peoplw who know how to speak English, etc. It doesn't have to be for your own future job. Well, speaking more than one language does benefit you for getting a better job, which is a better salary; however, what if you were a retired person who were learning another language? What do you say about those cases?[/qu

I just want to give a instance.
I always can't do the thing that i want for i have not enough money. So i am not successful. Maybe the wealth people can't do what they want to do too. In the buddha , Greed is the enemy of the human. Everyone will be successful if he has no greed.

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Postby phucauto3 » Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:07 am

sunnyni!!!
What 's the diffirence between money and success in you!
to many people, family, job, social standing, knowledge is more important. If we can combine all perfectly, we will be successful

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Postby MissLT » Fri Sep 16, 2005 5:47 pm

sunnyni wrote: In the buddha , Greed is the enemy of the human. Everyone will be successful if he has no greed.

Yes, but wanting things for you or taking things that are not yours because you want them are greed. However, doing things for others or helping others is one of many ways to be successful, and it's not a greed. They are not a greed because you don't want thing for yourself or others. You help them because it's a part of one human being should do to another, and they'll be happy because of your help since you're a sincere person who just help without asking something back in return; therefore, to some people it could be a success because it's a part of the goals to them-- helping others when you could without asking something back in return. If you help people to get them to like you, then it's a part of a greed, for you've helped people with a purpose. It's not a genuine act.
About setting goals and wanting to achieve them are also greed; however, I think there are levels of greed. Not all greed are just plain bad. For instance, your greed based on the happiness of others could be a good or a bad thing. If your greed will make them happy, then is it good or bad? I think you know the answer. If your greed will take away their happiness, then I think you know it's a good or bad thing, right?

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Postby sunnyni » Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:49 am

Yes, it is me neglect the other side meaning of the greed.

Each time we dicuss the problem, we have to balance the both side of it, bad and good.

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Postby Codby » Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:29 am

Oh,Phu said about napoleon.
He is my idol.!!!I often get aggressive as him

I admire his talent,his character.His life is an immortal epic!!!

All my love for him!!

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Postby star*dust » Sun Aug 06, 2006 1:15 pm

hello everyone, I just wanna say that i completely agree with what Bob Dylan said.... to me, if u go to bed and u did wat u wanted during the day then ur successful no doubt there. success is mistakingly perceived these days as doing sth that brings alot of money and move u up in social class..i say success is doing wat u want and being happy and satisfied....I believe that's the meaning of life:)

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Postby Vega » Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:25 pm

Idea is a secret of success

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Postby meylenlau » Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:07 pm

“Success” is the expectation of humans, if one has the strong determination to work it out , I’m sure, he/she will succeed.Merely have an idea is insufficient,sould have actions,ready to face and solve problems,and...must not give up.

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Postby candykhkh » Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:50 pm

I wonder if there is any Vietnamese, except me, in this forum.
Following is the link of a Vietnamese girl saying about what success is.
http://www19.dantri.com.vn/giaoduc-khuy ... 148550.vip
I agree with Bob Dylan. Most people think of success as some difficult thing to get. But to Bob Dylan, the above girl and me, success is what you can do like the way you want :D

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Postby shokin » Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:10 pm

And internet means business. :lol: :twisted: :lol:

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Postby meylenlau » Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:43 am

candykhkh wrote:I wonder if there is any Vietnamese, except me, in this forum.
Following is the link of a Vietnamese girl saying about what success is.
http://www19.dantri.com.vn/giaoduc-khuy ... 148550.vip
I agree with Bob Dylan. Most people think of success as some difficult thing to get. But to Bob Dylan, the above girl and me, success is what you can do like the way you want :D


Hi,

I agree with your point of views, they are your expectations, once you have got what you need/like, you feel happy and satisfied, right? So success is just that,I understand that. .It is normal.

But, sometimes the basic needs (food, clothing, sleep, shelter, security) are just difficult to get in a war-torn country and starvation area whereby they have to rob and kill to get these needs …..)For us these things are plenty and excessive.So, we don't feel difficult to get.

When humans have sufficient of these basic needs, they want something else to upgrade their lives , such as: friends, family, children, car, washing machine , better education, better job and so forth. After having all these, do you think humans will stop expecting? No, right? The expectation just keep on moving ahead. Besides material/money , humans are also expect for respectability from others, popularity , fame and…....ceaseless.

Amazing, right ? This is mundane. Thus, humans’ desires are ceaseless until the end of their lives. Once the expectations are there, humans need to work them out, some are easy to achieve but some are not. Without any expectation is not a human.

Therefore, to hit the target, easy or difficult it depends on you, what are you, where are you......

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Postby xingxing » Wed Dec 13, 2006 4:55 am

LennyeTran wrote:
shokin wrote:Why to want to be successfull ?

There are million reasons why one wants to be successful. For instance, being successful so you can give things back to the community, family, and others; being successful so you can help others without having a feeling you can't do much help because you can't even help yourself; being successful so you will have the opportunity to take care of your parents when they get older, and not putting them in nursing home like other insensitive children; or being successful so you can provide your children a better education, a better understanding about giving and sharing the wells. Anyway, I can give you my million reasons if you'd like to :wink: .




I quite agree with your opinion .to me now ,i study in a university of China .An d I will finish it an d get my bachelor degree next summer .and in the following years ,i will study two years to get my graduate degree .however ,i have o dreem that oneday i can study in usa even when i was a child .an d to a foreign er ,english is a second language and to pass toefl and gre is not a easy thing for me .but ,since i have the dream ,i get up early in the moring and study lately untill evenings .all my cultivation comes from my dream .maybe in 2009 i will maybe in the american land .wish me good luck .
(wish frends all over the world pick up my mistakes when i express my opininon using english ,help me improve my english ability ,thanks to all).

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Postby xingxing » Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:22 am

happysmile wrote:In a book about success and luck, the author said that success can be come from luck. And luck doesn't come twice , we have to catch it as soon as we touch it.
He also compare luck by chance with manmade luck, because not all of luck leads to success, we have to know how to make a luck for ourseves. That success would be long-lasting.


luck or chance is of course important to a person's success .and under certain curcumstances ,it plays a grave important role in the way to success .however ,i also want to say .besides luck or chance ,what we also should do is that prepare for it .In china ,there is a old saying says like that opertunity always gives chances to those who make good preparation .

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Postby xingxing » Wed Dec 13, 2006 5:54 am

LennyeTran wrote:
sunnyni wrote: In the buddha , Greed is the enemy of the human. Everyone will be successful if he has no greed.

Yes, but wanting things for you or taking things that are not yours because you want them are greed. However, doing things for others or helping others is one of many ways to be successful, and it's not a greed. They are not a greed because you don't want thing for yourself or others. You help them because it's a part of one human being should do to another, and they'll be happy because of your help since you're a sincere person who just help without asking something back in return; therefore, to some people it could be a success because it's a part of the goals to them-- helping others when you could without asking something back in return. If you help people to get them to like you, then it's a part of a greed, for you've helped people with a purpose. It's not a genuine act.
About setting goals and wanting to achieve them are also greed; however, I think there are levels of greed. Not all greed are just plain bad. For instance, your greed based on the happiness of others could be a good or a bad thing. If your greed will make them happy, then is it good or bad? I think you know the answer. If your greed will take away their happiness, then I think you know it's a good or bad thing, right?


Yes ,it is ture to say like that .And i remember ,J.F.Kennedy,a late American president,once said "Ask not what your country can do for you, Ask what you can do for your conutry".Yet I want to say "Ask not what others can do for you ,Ask what you can do for others".

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Postby ericfiel » Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:09 pm

hi all, in my opinion we can't define success. I think everyone has difernt ways of feeling he/she succed in his/her life. what i want to mean is that we are diferent from each other so we fell success diferently.

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Postby Sunnypk » Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:11 pm

H wrote:Success is something that you have acheived what you want.
you can get success by doing well, becoming famous or rich. To put it more simply, when you are comfortable and not feeling uneasy, you are successful. I must say you can obtain success when you meet your desires and targets. However, I belive in this material world; success is through money, by getting good education, having properties, car, bank balance and soforth.

sometimes I thinks this is not adequate to be successful. Can you win hearts through money? Can you buy the love (genuine) of girl, the love of parents and the love of humans etc.

Does the money play a vital role in success?



I agree with you

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Postby Lac » Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:19 pm

When humans have sufficient of these basic needs, they want something else to upgrade their lives , such as: friends, family, children, car, washing machine , better education, better job and so forth. After having all these, do you think humans will stop expecting? No, right? The expectation just keep on moving ahead. Besides material/money , humans are also expect for respectability from others, popularity , fame and…....ceaseless.


Your are right, my friend. We always have incessant and varying needs increasing to the ever changing society. We seem never satisfied with anything we obtained and our desire keeps moving ahead. It turns our that happiness in any success becomes so relative, more exactly, nothing called absolute success. That's the reality we all must accept in life.

Amazing, right ? This is mundane. Thus, humans’ desires are ceaseless until the end of their lives. Once the expectations are there, humans need to work them out, some are easy to achieve but some are not. Without any expectation is not a human.

So where is the success ? It's all up to your capability ? Not sure . Many persons have some ability to do something, yet they looks to be unsuccessful in other aspects. In most of the cases, the right time and the right place, let alone some fortune, ocassionaly plays a vital role in deciding the success of anyone.

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Postby nadiaSV » Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:06 pm

Success is made of many many smaller ones- such as many little steps on a path. For me success is when I see the smile of someone smilling at me, when i realise I didn't do something bad just few minutes ago, when i can close my eyes and all I see is soft, smiling light inside of me, when i see the thankfulness in someone's eyes, that I have just helped, the feelling of satisfaction after a well- done job, the feeling when u realise that u have just understood something new in life, something which pushes u one step ahaid, the feeling when u know u are always on one step to your dreams, the fact that this morning I woke up with smile on my face and love in my heart, success is when I can rely on someone, when someone grabs my hand and smile at me. Success is when one day when u are old u can sit on a chair turn back to your life and say: I could live it once again the same.


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