Does society have double standards about male/female nudity?

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Postby MissLT » Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:33 pm

No, I am not. Nudity is an art. There's nothing pornographic about it at all. Look at the Medieval times/Renaissance arts. It involved a lot of nudity, and it was considered as an art. Human body is a beautiful art, with or without clothes. Therefore, why is it beautiful if a girl is nude, but it's not the same for a guy?

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Postby Dixie » Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:40 pm

LennyeTran wrote:No, I am not. Nudity is an art. There's nothing pornographic about it at all. Look at the Medieval times/Renaissance arts. It involved a lot of nudity, and it was considered as an art. Human body is a beautiful art, with or without clothes. Therefore, why is it beautiful if a girl is nude, but it's not the same for a guy?


Because he doesn't like guys :lol: :lol: I do, however, but I would never say that a feminine body is ugly, on the contrary. Nudity is a natural thing; in part when we put on our clothes every day it's like we are hiding a part of ourselves. No, nudity is not ugly or negative or porn (porn is a different concept, who said that nudity is like porn?).

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Postby MissLT » Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:43 pm

Yeah, that's why it's a double standard. Media are made for men. A lot of men are like him. They are not comfortable seeing another guy nude. They think it's gay or sexual or something. I think the gay one is the one who get turns on by seeing another man nude :twisted: .

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Postby MissLT » Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:50 pm

Dixie wrote: No, nudity is not ugly or negative or porn (porn is a different concept, who said that nudity is like porn?).


There was a news on yahoo,

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Some of those don't-have-a-life people got scared to see that picture on a magazine. They called it pornography. Can you believe it? Some Americans just wear their underwears too tight. :roll:

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Postby Hardi » Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:05 pm

Naked men are artistic, only so far until they have smaller than mine. Otherwise it's all real uglyness and horrible porn... far away from art!

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Postby Dixie » Sat Aug 05, 2006 3:18 pm

LennyeTran wrote:There was a news on yahoo,

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Some of those don't-have-a-life people got scared to see that picture on a magazine. They called it pornography. Can you believe it? Some Americans just wear their underwears too tight. :roll:


Offensive and disgusting? :shock: Those who think that just don't know what life is about. Have they never seen a mother breast-feeding her baby? How can that woman say that the picture was offensive for her (I bet she doesn't have any children) or that her husband was uncomfortable with it? (I am sure he was lying). What planet do we live in?

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Re: Does society have double standards about male/female nud

Postby Butler » Sat Aug 05, 2006 3:39 pm

danyet wrote:
TP wrote:As far as female nudity is concerned, society has double standards.

What do you think?
I sure hope so! Who wants to see a bunch of naked blokes? Yuk!



Completely agree...not so interested in looking at naked men..I find us a tad repulsive and uninteresting...now the female body...well... :D :D :D

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Postby shokin » Sat Aug 05, 2006 4:46 pm

Of course, we want more than just seeing (are you too appearance-orientated ? some people are experience-orientated). :lol:

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Postby MissLT » Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:38 pm

Hardi wrote:Naked men are artistic, only so far until they have smaller than mine. Otherwise it's all real uglyness and horrible porn... far away from art!

Don't you mean until they have bigger body and longer... legs than yours?

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Postby MissLT » Sat Aug 05, 2006 6:54 pm

Dixie wrote:
Offensive and disgusting? :shock: Those who think that just don't know what life is about. Have they never seen a mother breast-feeding her baby? How can that woman say that the picture was offensive for her (I bet she doesn't have any children) or that her husband was uncomfortable with it? (I am sure he was lying). What planet do we live in?

Those women probably didn't breastfeeding their children, and I think their husbands are gay. Either this or those women have a very conservative and submissive mind. Some men are scared of BF. Not because of the nudity but it's because of the action itself reminds them about childbirth, responsibilities of a Father, family, etc. Therefore, those uptight women were probably afraid that this picture would remind their men about all those things.

I guess female nudity on magazines are okay with them because their men are okay with it. However, when it comes to something as natural as BF, which reminds them of a man's responsibility, they think it's offensive and disgusting because their men wouldn't feel comfortable with it. I wonder what they said when they saw those nude pictures of pregnant Britney. Now that I think is disgusting since she looked so ugly in them. :twisted:

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Postby Jaime » Mon Aug 14, 2006 7:12 am

LennyeTran wrote:No, I am not. Nudity is an art. There's nothing pornographic about it at all. Look at the Medieval times/Renaissance arts. It involved a lot of nudity, and it was considered as an art. Human body is a beautiful art, with or without clothes. Therefore, why is it beautiful if a girl is nude, but it's not the same for a guy?


Well... I hope "Nudity" can be something pornographic as well. Or, at least, something erotic and even perverse and vicious.

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Postby jeffcox » Mon Sep 04, 2006 12:31 pm

Reading this forum, I can see that the women generally see nudity as an art. The men see it as sex.

For this reason, women accept both female and male nudity. And for this same reason, men just can't accept male nudity. They can't look at a naked guy and disassociate the image from the notion of sex. If they even remotely indicate some acceptance, it's like they are opening themselves to the possibility that they are homosexual. Imagine what their beer-buddies would say! :oops:

A guy just cannot like another guy's body. And no guy has ever appreciated Arnold Schwartzeneger's muscles with some small amount of envy!

Look at the guy on this forum with the picture of a man with muscles... isn't he appreciating that man's body?

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Postby MissLT » Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:32 pm

jeffcox wrote:

Look at the guy on this forum with the picture of a man with muscles... isn't he appreciating that man's body?

8) That's Danyet! Loved your post, by the way :wink: .

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Postby jeffcox » Mon Sep 04, 2006 2:50 pm

Thanks, LennyeTran

No insult was intended towards Danyet. I just wanted to question the guys' concepts about what they say and what they show us.

They have that picture because it shows strength and power, an invincible force. Thus, we can look at photos of men and be 'macho' because we're admiring their strength rather than their body. Arty photos are about beauty and it just isn't acceptable for a man to look at another man for his beauty. That's homosexual, isn't it(?).

Arnie is a man's man... Leonardo Di'Caprio just isn't!

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Postby MissLT » Mon Sep 04, 2006 3:02 pm

jeffcox wrote: Thanks, LennyeTran

No insult was intended towards Danyet. I just wanted to question the guys' concepts about what they say and what they show us.

I know :wink:


jeffcox wrote: Leonardo Di'Caprio just isn't!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: loved it!

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Postby jeffcox » Mon Sep 04, 2006 4:25 pm

Don't get me wrong... I like Leonardo Di'Caprio... just not as an actor... or a male model!! :D

If anybody could suggest any other attributes, please direct them to the Leonardo Di'Caprio fan club!

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Re: Does society have double standards about male/female nud

Postby exceedego » Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:21 am

TP wrote:As far as female nudity is concerned, society has double standards.

What do you think?

I think there is no doubt about it that the society will have two standars forever!
Not just as far as female nudity is concerned

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Re: Does society have double standards about male/female nudity?

Postby olgav » Tue Apr 13, 2010 10:10 pm

a naked body is nice, regardless it is a man's or a woman's.
It all depends on the eyes that watch


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