Children should take both parents' surnames.

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Postby MissLT » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:43 pm

Dixie wrote:
LennyeTran wrote: :lol: No wonder. I thought I forgot to call her Mrs. instead. So, you have a middle name also right? And you use the last-middle-first name pattern?


I don't have a middle name. Well, there was a time when it was a tradition to name girls Maria plus the name chosen. I was one of those unfortunate kind. So I have two names (Maria Mercè) but I only use that in bureaucratic situations.

What do you mean by "the last-middle-first name pattern"?

Ha, same like Vietnam. Once upon a time girls in Saigon got their middle name as Thi and guys's as Van or Minh. All of my aunts and uncle got those, including my mom. We were born when my grandma decided to stop the tradition by giving her grandchildren different middle name. (not a lovely one, anyway). My dad named me and my brother; therefore, we have different middle name then the rest of the kids in the family. 8)

i mean, is it M. Maria Carceller Guzman or the other way around?

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Postby MissLT » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:51 pm

mamuta wrote:
Dixie wrote:...My first surname is my father's, my second surname's my mother's...this has changed and now you can have your mother's surname as your first...Children take their parents' first surnames...

Hm, interesting. Now I see some problems. For example: you and your brother - is it possible you have different first surname if your parents wanted to? And imagine parents with two sons: they could have different first surnames so their children would have totally various surnames :? A bit complicated, isn't it? And what about family tradition?

Two of my grandma's brothers have different last names. One has the mother's, and the other one has the father's even though they share the same father. She said at that time the kid could carry the last name of whoever was present. My great-grandpa was on his business trip when his wife gave birth; hence, the different last name. They didn't really care much. I think this is better than just take the father's last name only since I think I deserve to carry my mom's last name. Why would my dad get the privilege when he never raised me? :roll:

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Postby Dixie » Wed Apr 11, 2007 9:50 pm

LennyeTran wrote:i mean, is it M. Maria Carceller Guzman or the other way around?


It is Maria Mercè Carceller Guzman. Maria Mercè would be my full name. Nobody calls me that anyway. Well, except for some teachers I had in high school :evil:

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Postby mamuta » Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:17 am

Dixie wrote:... I don't think it's allowed for the children to have the surnames in different order. That would be a mess!

but you are not sure, aren't you? That's the point :roll:

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Postby Dixie » Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:12 pm

mamuta wrote:but you are not sure, aren't you? That's the point :roll:


I'm not sure because it never occurred to me, therefore I have never bothered to check. However I'm quite sure it's not possible. What a mess! :D

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Postby crystalfrogw » Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:10 am

It is not important whether the kid takes the surname of the father's or the mother's.........name is just a meaningless mark. no matter what your name is, you are you.......

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Postby mamuta » Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:29 am

Thx LennyeTran for your fascinating family story :)

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Postby MissLT » Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:31 pm

Dixie wrote:
LennyeTran wrote:i mean, is it M. Maria Carceller Guzman or the other way around?


It is Maria Mercè Carceller Guzman. Maria Mercè would be my full name. Nobody calls me that anyway. Well, except for some teachers I had in high school :evil:

So middle name, first name, and then last name. Interesting! If you were in the States, your first name would be Maria, middle name is Merce and Carceller, and last name is Guzman. Otherwise, those last names have to be joined..

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Postby nemo » Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:00 am

hi... good morning....
well.....using surname is bot very popular in my country..... just for certain people like chinese and Indians...but.... no problem actually

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Re: "Children should take both parents surnames."

Postby mamuta » Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:13 pm

pocahontex wrote:...it will make a long name. Sometimes you'll face a difficulty to write your name onto a test paper because there is not enough room to write such a long name.

I haven't thought about it but you're absolutely right!

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Postby shivayona » Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:53 am

Nice topic.
I agree, that chlidren should take their surename.
for example, in indonesia there are many region in my country and the different culture too. I don't have midle name but, i have the surename that signed i'm from karonese. One of the area in North Sumatera that surrounding of the mount, sinabung, sibayak and bukit barisan that's Tanah Karo (Karo Land) In my culture, everyody should have surename that borrow from her/his father. And the surename is still divides in subsurnames. So, if we introduce myself to the other people, in karonese called, ertutur. That can show how very strength the relation of family we have.
So, using the surename is one way that we can keep our culture in my bornplace.
Thank you for all. (in karonese = Bujur)
Best Regards,

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Re: "Children should take both parents surnames."

Postby Bambang » Sat Jun 30, 2007 5:36 pm

pocahontex wrote:...it will make a long name. Sometimes you'll face a difficulty to write your name onto a test paper because there is not enough room to write such a long name.


mamuta wrote:I haven't thought about it but you're absolutely right!


That's not a big deal my friend. Just write your short name instead of the full one. Take a look at this :
Hi, my name is pocahontex blablabla blablabla blablabla...

Hallo, my name is mamuta blablabla blablabla blablabla...

Cool huh !!!
Sorry just kidding my friends. :wink:


My dear friends, to me, it's not a big deal whether you take your father's name or your mom's name or even both.

But to me, the best one is when you take none of them. Just your name without anything behind or in the front.

Nowadays, lots of people are using their family name to get advantage of the situation. For instance, if his/her father/mother is a public figure or popular artist, they use that name for their interest. Some people are hiding behind their big family name. To me, it's not a proper strategy to use family name to get something. :cry:

I wish we didn't have any family name or surneme so that everybody would be equal in any sectors.

Sometimes I'm confused when calling some people who take their parent's name . This is one example.

A grand father has two sons.
Suppose the first one is Marco Ginting and the second one is Marlon Ginting. "Ginting" is the family name.
Both sons are called "Ginting".
When they are in a family gathering, then we call "Ginting". You already know the result right!
The three men would look at you because their names are "Ginting". Can you imagine if there are ten "Gintings" there. What would happen? What a confusing thing huh !!! What a mess!!! :P :lol:

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Postby Sphinx » Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:53 am

I, myself use both my parents' surname. i even use it in my resume. I don't think it matters whether which surnames you use.

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Postby stinks » Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:26 pm

I think it is not important for the children to have their parents' surnames or their fathers' surnames. Because parents are still parents no matter what happens, and the chilren will bring their parents' blood in their body, right?

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Take neither of them

Postby Bambang » Sun Jul 08, 2007 2:19 am

You got it dear Stinks.

Take neither of them.

Don't use any surnames.

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Postby nightwish » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:52 am

in our country we usually use our father's surname, 'cause we belong to this family now, but for me, it doesn't matter 'cause I have my father's and my mother's surname.

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Postby Bambang » Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:02 pm

nightwish wrote:in our country we usually use our father's surname, 'cause we belong to this family now, but for me, it doesn't matter 'cause I have my father's and my mother's surname.



Wow, you've got both.

Then, what's your full name?

I bet, it must be long or at least three words.

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Postby nightwish » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:08 pm

ha-ha....actually it's not thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat long.....
I'm a lucky girl, 'cause my father and my mother surname's is the same because of that I said that I use both of them :D....

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Postby Bambang » Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:40 am

nightwish wrote:ha-ha....actually it's not thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat long.....
I'm a lucky girl, 'cause my father and my mother surname's is the same because of that I said that I use both of them :D....



Good excuse to cover your real name.

Psychologically speaking, you are not an open person.

Anyway, I still appreciate your closeness.

We need it sometimes.

But not always, especially to uncle Bambang.

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Postby nightwish » Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:51 pm

Good excuse to cover your real name.


I'm not making any excuses here dear,
my mother is my father's cousin. :D

Psychologically speaking, you are not an open person


you don't even know me to analyze my personality :wink: .

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Postby Bambang » Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:53 am

nightwish wrote:
Good excuse to cover your real name.


I'm not making any excuses here dear,
my mother is my father's cousin. :D




Oh I see. Married to a cousin.


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