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who is guily for unleashing terror

islam
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12%
arab culture
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9%
ben laden and other terrorst's leaders (only)
3
9%
western world
10
30%
all humanity
13
39%
no one
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Terrorism threatens the free world

Postby Monster » Sat Apr 10, 2004 1:20 pm

Hi everybody
I know this subject sounds rather offensive, but it is true. It is only arabs-muslim terrorists are blowed up all over the world, killing thouthends innoncent people , which islamic fanitics claimed the enemies of arab countries. These terracts may continue for a very long time, because there is no solution to this problem. All countries have armies and weapons in order to fight against organized enemy's army but not with suicide bombers. It means the modern world has no means for fightening terror... :!:
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Don't let hatred blind you

Postby Arkhan » Sun Apr 11, 2004 1:14 am

This is an invitation to everyone:

PLEASE DON'T LET HATRED BLIND YOU

First of all I want to clarify something a lot of people don't know about. Suicide is forbidden in Islam. :arrow: Don't try arguing with me about that. :arrow: Islam is MY religion. :arrow: You don't know anything about it, so, you have no right to jump to any conclusions just because you feel like arguing. :arrow: Try to find the truth yourself, :arrow: and try for once to consider other people's points of view. :arrow: That's all I'm asking.

I don't deny that some Muslims do became suicide bombers, but have you really wondered about the real reason behind that :?: :!:

I'll tell you why. :arrow: suicide bombers are people who have had enough oppression.
Would you tolerate it if you saw other human beings being oppressed and deprived of their rights to live, to feel safe and to be able to dream of tomorrow :?: would you tolerate it if you knew that they were oppressed only because they follow the same religion as you do :?: Would you tolerate it if these things were done to someone close to you :?: :!: If you can tolerate these things, others can't, and won't just sit around and enjoy watching what's happening, like the rest of the world is doing.

I'm NOT justifying what suicide bombers do, I'm just telling you that oppression is the real cause of the increasing numbers of suicide bombers.

Suicide bombers are people who have lost the will to live. If their loved ones have been killed, and their homes have been destroyed, can they be blamed if they wondered why should they keep on living, :arrow: what for :?: :!:

Usually, people commit suicide when their frustration reaches its final limits. The difference here is that suicide bombers want everybody to know who led them to committing suicide. They want their death to be some kind of a message directed to certain people, but would those certain people get it :?: No, they don't, :arrow: they ignore it. And what happens next :?: Another frustrated person tries to send this message his own way, and hatred increases.

A suicide bomber is usually a person who lost every hope in life, and who have lost someone ( or maybe ) everyone and everything he used to call (dear ). So he is unconsciously led to the belief that since he has gone through all that and no one bothered, then it must be normal. So, to him, it would also seem normal to force someone else into sharing his painful experience of losing someone dear.

I'm NOT defending suicide bombers. In fact, what they're doing is a crime against humanity and against them, themselves. On the other hand, the things that led them to committing suicide should also be considered a crime against humanity.

What I'm trying to say is that what turns normal people into suicide bombers is the absence of justice. I can only hope that a day would come when people learn how to apply justice to every human being regardless of their nation and religion.

If the world would agree on fighting a war against oppression of all kinds, there would be no need for a war against terrorism, don't you agree :?:

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Re: arab's terror threats the free world

Postby Mandy2 » Sun Apr 11, 2004 11:16 am

[quote="Monster"] it is only arabs-muslim terrorists are blowed up all over the world, killing thouthend innonsent people quote]

This statement is not correct. It is true that there are terrorists who are Arabs/Muslims BUT they are NOT THE ONLY ones. There ARE terrorists from other countries. It would be wrong to blame only Arabs/Muslims.

One example that there are many other terrorist groups, is the ETA (Euskadi Ta Askatasuna) in Spain. The group's aim is the creation of an independent homeland in Spain's Basque region. Their terrorist activities include the derail of a train transporting politicians and army veterans, assassinations, extortions, kidnappings and bombings (car bombs, ...).

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Postby Ms.A.Z » Sun Apr 11, 2004 4:44 pm

hi monster

first of all i really didnt like ur topic at all..it was really offensive
i just dont understand why it was not deleted yet !

i know not all arab muslims r 100 % r born to be good people..okey..yes they r few groups of people ..monsters infact..not arabs not muslims not arab muslims ..who kill people ..those people must be punished for killing and for destroying muslims reputation..... but that dose not mean that u have the right to blame all arab muslims boz of those people's mistake okey...our religion islam ( if u heard of it) which i am sure u dont know any thing about it ..DIDNT told us to kill people or even animals or plants...infact it discourages wars and wants only peace ..i dont know what is ur religion but i am sure u wont be happy if any one said somthing like what u said about muslims..rest i think ur smart enough to understand what iam trying to say here okey.. bye

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hey!

Postby suhana » Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:34 am

please, don't let your prejudice or misunderstanding influence your clear mind. :?
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Postby Mandy2 » Mon Apr 12, 2004 11:42 am

I'm sure it's okay to discuss this topic in a respectful way, but we should try to avoid generalizations. No matter what the subject is, it's not a whole population, not a whole country and not a whole religion to blame. There are good and bad people in every society and it would be wrong and unfair to lump them all together.

Sometimes there seem to be problems in the media with generalizations. I'll give an example.
After September 11th there was an immediate association of terrorism with Islam. But we have to consider one important thing. Although the media is portraying Islam sometimes as the perpetrator, religions do not commit acts of terror, people do! If one person (who's religion is for example Islam) commits a terrorist attack, we should NOT blame the whole religion and not blame the whole country where the terrorist came from.

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Arabs terrors threats the free world

Postby mona » Fri Apr 23, 2004 12:07 pm

..My dear fellow ur completely wrong in your judgment ..the only terror in this world is the only occopation ..for God sake ..all nations are free and you asking them to keep thier mouths shut ..to eat and drink like animals while thier lands are taken , while thier school are stolen and destryoed by bombs ..what kind of terror that palastininas are ..and what do u call the Zionism ..dont make a joke and tell me they r a peace claimers ..coz the peace claimers never occupy others lands and kill its civilians and destroy its biuldings ..what can hurling stones do in opposites to boms and misiles ? come to palastine then talk about Arabs terror ..dont just throw words on the net and speaks a thing you dont know about ..u speak whats the politics media wanted you to speak ..that Arabsa are terrorists ..what about the Zionims ..USA ..and the Hersque when they killed nearly millions ..what do u call all of them ...ya i know ur answers ..they are a terror fighters ..No my friend ..go and meet the reality ..see within your eyes and hear by your ears ..dont listen to the false media ..and be a logical person
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Postby AnatolianTiger » Sat Apr 24, 2004 3:13 pm

hi
first you said that they kill innocent people
zionist : innocent?
the funniest thing i've ever heard
islam is peace
our Prophet did not fight against any till they did fitnah (took the scarf of a mosleemah off & killed the moslem objecting to them)
& now zionists are doing the worst fitnah by killing little kids
& suicide bombers wanna protect their people & country
is the invaded country wrong & the invader right, NO.
ZIONISM : TERRORISM
see http://www.inminds.com
i saw, in that site, the pictures of the jews uniting with moslems & protesting against Zionists.

What is Islam?


Islam is peace Islam is ease,
Islam's not danger or disease

Islam is love and prosperity
Islam's not hatred or adversity

Islam is salvation through repentance
Islam has love for all in abundance

Islam means no harm or affliction
Islam implores you with affection

Islam is neither maze nor craze
Islam is giving Allah all praise

Islam is acing through the race
Islam will be on everyone's face

Islam is worshipping only the Creator
Islam's not mere numbers on a calculator

Islam gives you power when you surrender
Islam's not a terrorist or for a pretender

Islam is patience and perseverance
Islam eases your vengeance through tolerance.

Islam is life for all eternity
Islam gives you respect, moreover dignity

Islam is winning hearts through honesty
Islam is giving openly in charity

Islam makes you wholesome and trustworthy
Islam is in wealth as well as in poverty

Islam is your shield against all evil
Islam is for your soul's retrieval

Islam not fundamentalism or fanaticism
Islam's not nationalism or racism

Wake up, people, Islam is here
Islam is here, so have no fear. :)


ma salama 8)

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arab's terror

Postby Monster » Fri Apr 30, 2004 7:57 pm

Hello everybody
Thank you all for your replies. I see most of you are nice folks. Unfortunally, I compelled to ask you one more time. I just have not got the answer still. I do not know why, by what reasons you try not to see this question, I guess it is too hard to reply correctly this. AND NOW ATTENTION! THE QUESTION IS: WHY TO BIN LADEN ARE SO MANY ADHERENTS IN THE ARAB WORLD(I know what you wrote me about bin laden/Hussein ) WHY MOST(99%) TERRORISTS ARE ARABS WHICH WORSHIPPED TO ISLAM. AND WHY ARAB'S LEADERS DO NOTHING TO FIGHT TERROR THAT SPREADSSO FAST IN THEIR COUNTRIES. :?: :?: :?:
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hi

Postby AnatolianTiger » Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:38 pm

you are most welcome
I compelled to ask you one more time my most fearful question

nice question. but i see you do not understand us.
WHY TO BIN LADEN ARE SO MANY ADHERENTS FROM THE ARABIC WORLD. WHY MOST TERRORISTS ARE ARABS WHICH WORSHIPPED TO ISLAM. AND WHY ARAB'S LEADERS DO NOTHING TO FIGHT WITH TERROR THAT SPREADED SO FAST IN THEIR COUNTRIES

Firstly we do not worship to islam. we worship to Allah.
secondly noone loves bin laden.
there is a saying of the Prophet meaning of which is "one is with his beloved one". if you love someone you are with him. the one loving (the terrorism of) bin laden is/will be with him (if he is aware of his doings).
i say do not believe in media in your country as it belongs to the zionists.
and how you concluded the 99%. LOL. it should be 01%. you say why most terrorists are arab. :shock: who is terrorist? i just see saddam and laden. :lol: (i said they are zionists. & im not sure whether they are arab either). if they were attached to their nationalities they wouldn't have killed their citizens.
& do not forget racism is against islam.
you say arabs do nothing to fight with terror. what is Hamas doing? they are fighting against the real terror. see http://www.inminds.co.uk
& do me a favor. do not write anything iwith capital letter. (i suppose you do not know it means you are shouting)
anyway take care. and no question upon this. we did nothing but answer your question.

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hi

Postby AnatolianTiger » Fri Apr 30, 2004 8:55 pm

salam
my topic on http://forums.englishclub.com/viewtopic.php?t=503 is locked. why?
so Monster you asked a question there
i reply it. and from now on i do not want any allegation without reference. i do not want to hear your BAD opinions about islam.
i wrote the reply first but soon i relaised that someone had locked it. anyway i saved ny reply. it is:
You want to say islam is a peaceful religion

i do not only want, because i said "islam is peace"
explain the happy celebration in palestine after september 11th.All palestinians were on streets and celebrated the killing of thousend people in America.These people on streets were all muslims. When the whole world was mourning they were happy Can you tell me why?

i did not hear any celebrations. give source when you claim something. i mean i want reference showing that all palestinians celebrated it.
And Ayatollah Syed Ali Khamenei condemned that event. he said "im sorry to hear innocent people died there"

And the topic is off please. as my thread is closed. i only wanted to make friends who LOVES islam. mine is closed because of you. you were not supposed to post in that thread. however, you did it. and the topic/allegation is useless as it has no relevace to the truth.

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Re: hi

Postby Pirate » Fri Apr 30, 2004 9:20 pm

In my opinion, religions have been understood incorrectly and utilizied as a political tool and this is not the first time. Mandy is right!

If u want the discussion to be positive, it's a waste of time to talk about religions are good or bad, right or wrong ...

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Re: hi

Postby Monster » Fri Apr 30, 2004 9:56 pm

To anatoliantiger
you say arabs do nothing to fight with terror. what is Hamas doing?
If you maintain the most cruel terroristic group in the middle east, whose goal is to kill innoncent people, you are supposed to *** adherent of such terroristic groups.There is nothing to talk about to people like you. And if you do not understand what I meant to say when I used capital letters, do not try to correct what you do not understand!

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Watch your words, monster! :x
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Postby AnatolianTiger » Sat May 01, 2004 9:35 am

to kill innoncent people

Zionists = innocents? LOL..
such terroristic groups

if you call the guys protecting themselves terrorist let it go.
Do not expose your absesnse of the knowledge about the letter's composing, it is interesting to no one.

you know wht you are talking about. if you do not know what capital words mean what m i to do? you should have underlined it if it is so important
see the pictures. which one is terrorist?
http://groups.msn.com/ISRAELISTATETERRO ... snw?Page=1
http://jerusalem.indymedia.org/news/2002/04/16916.php
http://www.alkhilafah.info/massacres/pa ... index6.htm

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Postby Monster » Tue May 11, 2004 10:07 am

Well, it was a little pause here in this topic. But the question is still actual. Do you think arab leaders do well when support terrorist organizations like hizballa or hamas. They(leaders) do nothing to stop terror but all to unleash it, without being catched.
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Postby AnatolianTiger » Tue May 11, 2004 10:26 am

hell with terrorists! Hell with zionists! Down with israel. Down with Sharon
Long live Hezbollah! Long live Palestinians! Long live Nasrollah! Long live Hamas!

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Postby Monster » Wed May 12, 2004 6:27 pm

I thought you are a little cleaver... but it seems this was a mistake.

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Postby Pirate » Thu May 20, 2004 10:05 pm

I have deleted the 2 latest posts by Mona and Monster! It's time to stop arguing and insulting others (mad, crazy, terrorist ...).

The topic should be changed to "Terrorism threats the free world". If you can't find the way to discuss positively attempting to reach some good solution, the topic will be locked. I hope this is the last time I have to notice you about this!

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Russia

Postby Pirate » Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:17 pm

And now the hostage-takers in Russia, unfortunately not for the 1st time.

It was really such a big shame that this terror happened to children on the 1st new school day. Yesterday afternoon I and my family were watching the live programme on CNN about the release of the Russian troops attacked the school by helicopters.

Nearly 200 children were hospitalized. About 12 hostage-takers, including 2 females, escaped sucessfully and being pursued.

Horrible!!!

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Postby Arale » Sun Sep 05, 2004 1:46 pm

America says they are protecting the world by stopping terrorism .But in fact they are the main reason strengthenning terrorism .What could they do ? I mean nothing if they still invades other countries and single acts .Because terro is a global problem .

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Postby Monster » Sat Sep 25, 2004 8:34 pm

Hello. Unfortunnaly, the victims of the attack on the russian school were much bigger than 200. This attack was planned by the same pests that planed september 11th and plan dayly suicide attacks on israeli citizens and solders. These bastards planned killing of children - the weakest cathegory of society. There were no certain plans or claims - what to get from the state for the lives of the captured people. It was one goal to kill as many people as it possible. Unfortunnaly, this plan has worked on the full strenghs, russian special forces acted wrong and could not avert catastrophe. This time like all previous it was an action of terror that has been carried out by radical islamists. So you must be blind at 100 percent to deny the fact that the threat comes out from islamic world with its 'very peaceful' plans to rebuild the world, so that all we will be forced to be worshippers of islam. You will probaly say Im wrong but look at arab countries - Iran , Syria , Libia did you hear at least one time that leaders/people of these countries openly critisice terror??? No, because they are the very countries of the axe of evil that must be wiped out with some others from the face of our planet, for in other case the whole world will be destroyed. What we see now is just the summit of the iceberg that we used to call islamic terrorism.

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