HURRICANE KATRINA - Destroys New Orleans

[MissLT]

How dare they ask for helps from MR. PRISEDENT ……………It's all LA state's fault ………….

:? Are you joking or being serious? Either way, it's a bit shock to see something like this . Since it's their fault, they can't ask for help??!??!?!?!?!?! Beside, even if they didn't, it was Bush's job to help. He's the President; something big like this happened in the US is supposed to be his job. However, here our Danyet said,"the Feds have no part in giving evacuation orders or getting transport for anyone unless the state asks for help;" I didn't wanna go there, for it's completely nonsense in my opinion. When the catastrophe happened, everyone wanted to help. It doesn't matter where one lives, who that person is and how much one has, we all wanted to help; we all wanted to give out whatever we could to save helpless souls. But here he says the Feds didn't have to interfere with the State such as giving transportation, help to save the innocent people, etc. because it wasn't their job. Ha, I wonder whether I should cry or cuss. It's just because they were busy saving their own lives, crying for help in individuals; therefore, those Feds should stand around waiting to be offically asked??!?!???!?! Wtf is this nonsense?????

[Danyet]

George Bush and the federal government are not to blame for the disaster we have witnessed in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.
In fact, the primary responsibility for the disaster response lies with New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin, Louisiana Governor Kathleen Blanco and other local officials.
Yet leading Democrats and their allies in the major media are clearly using this disaster for political purposes and ignoring one obvious fact.
This fact – which needs to be repeated and remembered – is that in our country, state and local governments have primary responsibility in dealing with local disasters.
The founding fathers devised a federal system of government – one that has served us remarkably well through great disasters that have befallen America over more than two centuries.

But if we believe the major TV networks, George Bush, FEMA and the Republicans in Congress are all to blame for the current nightmare.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/article ... 1327.shtml

[Miss. Ladybird]

How dare they ask for helps from MR. PRISEDENT ……………It's all LA state's fault ………….

:? Are you joking or being serious? Either way, it's a bit shock to see something like this l

If you followed the arrows, you would know that I was just being sarcastic about what Danyet said……………

I'm not American, but I understand that every president is responsible for taking the decisions………. In good times and bad.
I really can't understand why didn't Bush act faster to what happened in his own country ……….. He's always the first one to "ACT" when it comes to the Middle East………….

That's what I meant………… I apologies if my sarcastic post hurt you in any way………………..

[Danyet]

I'm not American, but I understand that every president is responsible for taking the decisions………. In good times and bad.
I really can't understand why didn't Bush act faster to what happened in his own country .

Do you really have any idea of what you are talking about? What, exactly was Bush supposed to do faster? Name one thing that he should have done. Should he have gone on TV immediately and told all Americans how he "feels their pain"? Hmm??

Should he have simply told that hurricane to "go Away hurricane we don't want to get wet"? Use your brain here, what should he have done. He was 1000's of miles away from LA at the time. The people who could have done something were the people already there and already in charge of this situation. The LA governor.

She should have called out the National guard earlier. That is what they are for.They are the LA state's. And she is the one who has the authority to call them out. Not Bush!!!! Go read a book on US constitution.

If you want to blame Bush the only shot you have is to blame him for the budget cuts that prevented the levies from being built to be adequate enough to withstand this storm. That, I may go along with but I am not sure on those facts yet.

Lastly. If you want to put blame somewhere why don't you blame the people stupid enough to build a city next to the ocean, where hurricanes come in regularly, on a swamp, that is 17 feet below sea level.!!!!

PS GO Bush!!KIll a few demented sicko terrorists for me while your in Iraq!!!!WooHoo!!

[ProfessorVerb]

I was born in New Orleans, but moved away at an early age. We have been back for a visit since, but that was several years ago. Notwithstanding the foregoing commentary, I would like to thank our international friends for their support in providing aid and assistance during this disaster. We live in neighboring Oklahoma, and even though this state is not doing as much as Texas and others, we are trying to assist our share of evacuees here as well. Even Sri Lanka, India and Mexico have donated assistance, and the television scenes of Mexican trucks filled with fresh water, three field kitchens and thousands and thousands of ration packs was a humbling and gratifying experience for millions of Americans.

Who did what and when will come out in hearings and investigation over the coming months; what will be remembered for a longer time, though, is how people and organizations performed during the immediate aftermath -- and now. Hooray for Texas and many thanks to our friends abroad. We should recall the words of (to be Sir) Winston Churchill in response to the Nazi blitz: "Let it roar and let it rage, we shall come through."

[Shazzam]

I was born in New Orleans, but moved away at an early age. We have been back for a visit since, but that was several years ago. Notwithstanding the foregoing commentary, I would like to thank our international friends for their support in providing aid and assistance during this disaster. We live in neighboring Oklahoma, and even though this state is not doing as much as Texas and others, we are trying to assist our share of evacuees here as well. Even Sri Lanka, India and Mexico have donated assistance, and the television scenes of Mexican trucks filled with fresh water, three field kitchens and thousands and thousands of ration packs was a humbling and gratifying experience for millions of Americans.

Who did what and when will come out in hearings and investigation over the coming months; what will be remembered for a longer time, though, is how people and organizations performed during the immediate aftermath -- and now. Hooray for Texas and many thanks to our friends abroad. We should recall the words of (to be Sir) Winston Churchill in response to the Nazi blitz: "Let it roar and let it rage, we shall come through."

I have heard that investigations have begun in the US to determine why this rescue effort was a disaster (at a political level). I will wait for the results before drawing any conclusions. There has been much conflicting media on the events leading up to and during the disaster. Some reports say that Mr. Bush was informed well before the disaster of the suspected damage it would cause etc. But as I said I will wait for the reports. All I know is regardless of the geography of this state, it is such a tragedy.

My heart goes out to the people of New Orleans. I know that my Country has sent money and assistance; and I'm sure we will continue to do so. :(

[Miss. Ladybird]

Do you really have any idea of what you are talking about? What, exactly was Bush supposed to do faster? Name one thing that he should have done. Should he have gone on TV immediately and told all Americans how he "feels their pain"? Hmm??

Should he have simply told that hurricane to "go Away hurricane we don't want to get wet"? Use your brain here,

Hmmm!!! What would the Americans get if I used my brain……..shouldn't your president use his

The people who could have done something were the people already there and already in charge of this situation. The LA governor.

She should have called out the National guard earlier. That is what they are for.They are the LA state's. And she is the one who has the authority to call them out. Not Bush!!!! Go read a book on US constitution.

Eariler?!!! Do you mean that according to the US constitution, the LA governor was supposed to call out the National guard before the beginning of the whole thing…………..

PS GO Bush!!KIll a few demented sicko terrorists for me while your in Iraq!!!!WooHoo!!

You mean like those:
http://www.arab7.com/up/file/1126649041575.jpg

You know something………….I would like to give you a "line" that your "Mr. President" can use in his next campaign…..
Let's KILL(in Iraq) and Let Kill ( in America)……………

[Danyet]

You mean like those:
http://www.arab7.com/up/file/1126649041575.jpg

Why? Have those kids been brainwashed already into being suicide bombers or to throw hand grenades, by their terrorist parents??

I'll tell you what. If you agree to keep your opinions about Iraq out of this Hurricane Thread, then so will I.

[MissLT]

Controversy: "Bush doesn't care about black people."
"On September 2, 2005, during a benefit concert for Hurricane Katrina relief on NBC, Kanye West deviated from the prepared script and claimed that the National Guardsmen dispatched to New Orleans were under orders to shoot looters, criticizing the government's response to the crisis and alleging racism in the media. West stated, "I hate the way they portray us in the media - If you see a black family, it says they're looting, [If] you see a white family, it says they're looking for food." While allowing that "the Red Cross is doing everything they can," West declared that government authorities are intentionally dragging their feet on aid to the Gulf Coast. He even said that "They've given them permission to go down and shoot us." [2]. West concluded his remarks with, "George Bush doesn't care about black people". Although the camera quickly cut away, West's comments still reached the US East Coast in the live news-feed, but were censored by the network when the concert was re-broadcast on the West Coast three hours later." (copied from wikipedia)

Do you know who said that? It's Kayne West, a rapper in the United States, and do you know why only the Republicans and his only family get all jumped up and down by this line? And why his wife started to hug and kiss black children during this Katrina while she had a chance to do this the other times, but she didn't?? It's because this line is true. Geogre Bush does not care about black people. Then he dared to come with his clean suits and started making photo shoots while people were still drowning there. If he didn't come there the first day, don't come at all. If he didn't come at all, he knew people would literally throw eggs at his face whenever they saw him; therefore, he came to show that he cared. But did he really care? Hell no. He came there to calm down the anger of Americans. And please, I dare you, Danyet, to tell me that he did care about black people. and sure, <--- those are the faces you would see if you actually wrote that.

[MissLT]

Should he have gone on TV immediately and told all Americans how he "feels their pain"? Hmm??!!

A notification that he was informed about the situation, and he would try as much as possible to save those lives on TV would ease their pain. He's a liar, so I don't think it was hard at all for him to say those lines, but he didn't say them. It's not because he's a good guy or whatever; it's because he was not around or didn't care enough to pay much attention to the subject. If he cared, where was he when it happened? Well, you haven't answer this question of mine yet. Ha, it's because you, yourself, don't know it and neither do American people. He pleaded to tell where he was. Peoplle normally plead the Fifth when they have something to hide.

[Danyet]

And please, I dare you, Danyet, to tell me that he did care about black people. and sure, <--- those are the faces you would see if you actually wrote that.

Firstly West must just be some retard. I've never even heard of him before this. So what he thinks is really irrelavant now, is not it?

Second: I don't know or care what Bush thinks about black people or anyone else for that matter. What he thinks about them is also irrelavant since he is not responsible for the hurricane hitting New Orleans in the first place.
While you people are busy finding fault in Bush and republicans the powers that really control and shape our world are apolitical and are running amuck.

Third:

- those are the faces you would see if you actually wrote that.

What in the blazes are you talking about?

[MissLT]

First of all, you still have not answer my question of where he was about. Second of all, you don't care who that rapper was or what he said because he didn't say anything about you. Let's face it honey, you're nobody. So, nobody really cares what you think or act, truthfully. Third of all, what that rapper said represented what some Americans think. Why are there people who happen to agree with him? It's because he's spoken out the truth, and he's had a chance to speak out what they wanted to say about Bush.Fourth of all, what he thinks or cares about black people is a matter of the fact. It's because it shows why he was slow in respon. Would you do something to someone you don't give a d*** about? Would you? Don't tell you you would because it'd be a lie and you know it would be. Therefore, please make some sense here, for you're getting nonsense and nonsense by the minute. I thought you were a person who happened to do his research and have good viewpoints, but apparently I was wrong. How disappointing!

[Danyet]

I did not know that any one was interested in where Bush was when the hurricane hit, so how would I know where he was? I don't care and niether should you.

So now they say he was absent? What a joke! It doesn't even matter, except to the overly sensitive foo foo types, for whom I have little sympathy.

This is getting more silly daily. Before the age of television none of this would have mattered. Now the American people have become so feminized and weak that they need to see a talking head and expect their Presidents to be overcome with emotion and offer heartfelt empathetic condolences at every opportunity. If that is your idea of a good leader then I'll bet that you are still waiting for the tooth fairy.

Where are the men in this country? The people who are willing to stand on their own. Who take responsibility for their own actions.

There was a time and a place where an overly sensitive leader would have been laughed out of town.

[Shazzam]

I did not know that any one was interested in where Bush was when the hurricane hit, so how would I know where he was? I don't care and niether should you.

So now they say he was absent? What a joke! It doesn't even matter, except to the overly sensitive foo foo types, for whom I have little sympathy.

This is getting more silly daily. Before the age of television none of this would have mattered. Now the American people have become so feminized and weak that they need to see a talking head and expect their Presidents to be overcome with emotion and offer heartfelt empathetic condolences at every opportunity. If that is your idea of a good leader then I'll bet that you are still waiting for the tooth fairy.

Where are the men in this country? The people who are willing to stand on their own. Who take responsibility for their own actions.

There was a time and a place where an overly sensitive leader would have been laughed out of town.

I don't agree with your response to what americans require on a media level in this instance!

I think the American people needed to see Bush take control of the situation; that is all. I don't think they feel that he did.

I do agree that it is irrelevant where he was or what he thinks (on a personal level). However, he has a duty to the WHOLE of the American population to be in control of situations such as these. It appears that he wasn't. Who knows who should of being do what etc. But any boss in charge of a large company should know at all times what his employees are doing; and making sure that they are actually doing it!

[MissLT]

I did not know that any one was interested in where Bush was when the hurricane hit, so how would I know where he was? I don't care and niether should you.

So now they say he was absent? What a joke! It doesn't even matter, except to the overly sensitive foo foo types, for whom I have little sympathy.

Let me remind you that he IS the President of the United States. When a crisis happens to it, he should be there. Even if he was at somewhere thousand miles ago, he should get back to the States and respond immediately. That's how a leader should do when something happens to his or her country. It's his or her responsibility in a part of his or her job-- to be a part of the disaster, listen to the cries of the citizens, do anything in his or her power to help the victims, etc. We don't put them in office just to tell us where and when we need to go to war; we put them there because they also promised to bring us safety, security, better healthcare, better education, better housings, and so on. Thus, he did vow to give Americans those things before stepping into office. If he did vow those, he should make those happen. Why? Again, it's because it's his job. HIS JOB.

This is getting more silly daily. Before the age of television none of this would have mattered. Now the American people have become so feminized and weak that they need to see a talking head and expect their Presidents to be overcome with emotion and offer heartfelt empathetic condolences at every opportunity. If that is your idea of a good leader then I'll bet that you are still waiting for the tooth fairy.

Maybe you're the only one who can't see whom you should put your trust on. If you can't even put your trust on your President during a disaster, I wonder why you wanted to put him in his office? To kill thousands of people in a land you might never actually be there? And by the way, how much is your gas at where you live? At my place, it is 3 dollars per gallon now. Wow, I am so missing the time when it was only a dollar something.
Anyway, back to the topic, if a President can't give you the feeling that he cares or he is sympathetic of your situation, why do you even need him there for? Where is the safety, security, better in this area, that area that he vowed when he entered his office? He did make vows that security and safety were his top priorities. However, since the disaster happened in a state where blacks were majority; he happened to be busy to respond or care enough to be there. Then he appeared late to calm down the angers, and his wife was going around hugging and kissing the black children. Ha, she got all year to do that, but she waited until some rapper said her husband didn't care enough about black people. She hugged them to show that her husband did care. Why did she do that for? It was for her husband's publicity image, and to answer the question of Americans who were wondering whether he cared or not. But in your words, why we should care about what he cares. Well, was that rapper or people talking about his cares in general? No, they were talking about his cares to the American people. Aren't black people American people? We don't frigging care if he cares about his golf days, meals, etc. We care about how he cares about American people. Telling that Bush does care about black people is like Clinton telling Americans he was innoncent in Monica Lewinsky's case . Yeah, it's funny because it's a lie.
Anyway, if you couldn't see a distinction between those cares, then it'd be no point talking. Well, you can't, so it's no point talking.

[Shazzam]

In Australia last night an Oprah Winfrey (on the ground) special was shown. She took several semi trailers full of essential items to the area and went to see for herself (first hand) what she could do to help. Other celebrities including; Julia Roberts, Chris Rock, John Travolta, Kelly Preston and Matthew McConaghy also went to the area with $1m dollars in aid parcels (food, nappies, water, canned food etc).

My goodness if ordinary people can give this sort of help to their own what is wrong with the Government.

There were some shocking accounts made to Oprah's team of journalists, about what went on in that Superdome. The local authorities could not deal with it as they were out numbered.

Alot of locals chose to wonder the streets as they did not want their children in there (what sort of refuge is that)?

I hope everyone gets a chance to see this documentary it might open a few peoples eyes. :(

I would find it impossible for anyone to defend the Bush administration after this appalling display.

[louvicine]

Hi I´m new here. Í don´t know how you will take my point of view, on the other hand I know only what the news say.
I don´t know who have the big responsability to don´t give mantention to the walls that protect the city, but I was wondering Why police didn´t permit people to let the city. It seems as if they wanted all black people died...
Another opinión. The USA government and all that people who hate latinamericans and mexicans, must to put the face under the floor because mexico is the first country that help them.
That was a terrible joke from USA president.

[Shazzam]

Hi I´m new here. Í don´t know how you will take my point of view, on the other hand I know only what the news say.
I don´t know who have the big responsability to don´t give mantention to the walls that protect the city, but I was wondering Why police didn´t permit people to let the city. It seems as if they wanted all black people died...
Another opinión. The USA government and all that people who hate latinamericans and mexicans, must to put the face under the floor because mexico is the first country that help them.
That was a terrible joke from USA president.

Hi and Welcome! :D Your viewpoint is always accepted on these forums everyone has an opinion and we should all share them whether we agree or not is the whole point.

I think the whole thing is a disgrace to the US Administration; but I'm really impressed with the US citizens they have stuck together and shown such humanity. So that is a good thing. 8)

[Unknownsu]

I don't follow the news that much but from what I see, it seems the US has faced a bit of criticism. I'm very disappointed with the government and people. It's been said over and over again that the United States is a civilized country that is more developed than many parts of the world. However, how civilized is a country when people take advantage of others in dire situations? The looting and raping that occurred in New Orleans showed just how civilized the United States really are. I can't recall something of that caliber happening throughout Southeast Asia when the tsunamis struck.

I might sound bitter but superiority (or what they think is superiority) has a price and is often placed under the microscope.

[Danyet]

I don't follow the news that much but from what I see, it seems the US has faced a bit of criticism. I'm very disappointed with the government and people. It's been said over and over again that the United States is a civilized country that is more developed than many parts of the world. However, how civilized is a country when people take advantage of others in dire situations? The looting and raping that occurred in New Orleans showed just how civilized the United States really are. I can't recall something of that caliber happening throughout Southeast Asia when the tsunamis struck.

I might sound bitter but superiority (or what they think is superiority) has a price and is often placed under the microscope.

Are you going to base your opinion on Americans over what a few thousand Black people did?

[MissLT]

The looting and raping that occurred in New Orleans showed just how civilized the United States really are. I can't recall something of that caliber happening throughout Southeast Asia when the tsunamis struck.

I don't know about the other part, but looting... Would you loot if you were left to be on your own for days without much food and water? When Tsunami happened, the world was right there with those people. It was on the news like in a second and those people got helped right away, don't forget that.

[MissLT]

Are you going to base your opinion on Americans over what a few thousand Black people did?

White people were looting, too, you know. Or you're calling them looking for food and water in this case?

[Danyet]

No they weren't, unless you think that the handful of Whites left in town are worth metioning compared to overwhelming majority of Blacks that were acting out of control. Why don;t you find out what the few white people are saying, that were stuck in the astrodome. Ask them who they were afraid of. It was not other White people. They will tell you who was roving around looking for rape victims. It was not white gangs who had come into town with boats and weapons and looted all the jewelery stores. They had more weapons than the police.
The police dept. had only one boat. Facts are facts and you should not be afraid to tell the truth. Maybe you don't hear ALL the facts on your local news. Try reading the Australian papers and the accounts given by Aussies who were there.
There appears to be something seriously wrong with Black culture in America and it needs to be addressed. And don't try to tell me it is because they are poor. The Blacks were much poorer 60 years ago but their neighborhoods were safer with less crime back then than they are now.

AS far as looting goes I don't think that anyone is calling those who took food for survival looters. The police that i have heard have said that they were only interested in people who where stealing valuables. Most of the real looting has not really been covered in the media. There was organized looting by gangs and many shootouts with police.

[Shazzam]

The looting and raping that occurred in New Orleans showed just how civilized the United States really are. I can't recall something of that caliber happening throughout Southeast Asia when the tsunamis struck.

I don't know about the other part, but looting... Would you loot if you were left to be on your own for days without much food and water? When Tsunami happened, the world was right there with those people. It was on the news like in a second and those people got helped right away, don't forget that.

The difference here Lenny is that other countries were asked to help and invited in immediately. Take it from me my country would have been in New Orleans in 1 day if they were allowed to. The Government in the US would not allow outside countries in to help! It is unreasonable in my opinion. Most countries would have loved to help the USA in this situation as they have done in the past for some countries in trouble. Why shut everyone out. I think they were negligent in the decision making process! :(

[MissLT]

The difference here Lenny is that other countries were asked to help and invited in immediately. Take it from me my country would have been in New Orleans in 1 day if they were allowed to. The Government in the US would not allow outside countries in to help! It is unreasonable in my opinion. Most countries would have loved to help the USA in this situation as they have done in the past for some countries in trouble. Why shut everyone out. I think they were negligent in the decision making process! :(

Exactly! That's why the blame should be on Bush Administration.
And Danyet, I'll get to you on the weekend. I don't have time right now to post long message.

[Unknownsu]

There appears to be something seriously wrong with Black culture in America and it needs to be addressed. And don't try to tell me it is because they are poor. The Blacks were much poorer 60 years ago but their neighborhoods were safer with less crime back then than they are now.

Danyet, you are right, I should not judge an entire country based on a few (or should I say a few hundred) individuals. People should be judged on an individual basis. However, it seems you are being a hypocrite because you are doing the same.

[Unknownsu]

I don't know about the other part, but looting... Would you loot if you were left to be on your own for days without much food and water? When Tsunami happened, the world was right there with those people. It was on the news like in a second and those people got helped right away, don't forget that.

Looting for daily essentials is not actually considered. I was talking about the people who broke into houses for personal wealth. Rape, gang violence and shootouts were also prevalent.

Tsunami victims got help right away? Maybe. Some. But the initial help was peanuts compared to the magnitude of the diaster. I agree with you, the Bush administration is partly to blame. If Bush really leads the internal investigations, there's no point for anyone to wait for the results. It's like asking Clinton to investigate the Lewinsky scandal.

The aftermath of Katrina would have been easier to endure if Bush did allow foreign aid. I know Canada responded immediately but had to wait for American approval which was delayed.

[Danyet]

There appears to be something seriously wrong with Black culture in America and it needs to be addressed. And don't try to tell me it is because they are poor. The Blacks were much poorer 60 years ago but their neighborhoods were safer with less crime back then than they are now.

Danyet, you are right, I should not judge an entire country based on a few (or should I say a few hundred) individuals. People should be judged on an individual basis. However, it seems you are being a hypocrite because you are doing the same.

I am not saying anything different that some Black spokesmen themselves have already said such as the Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson.
Read this:
http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46440

[MissLT]

I am not saying anything different that some Black spokesmen themselves have already said such as the Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson.
Read this:
http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46440

Funny, this is the same person who spoke about this guy in other topic,

"Rev. Jesse Jackson is a controversial figure in the USA. He does not speak for all Blacks. Many Americans of African herritage think that he has done a disservice to the Minority cause in America on countless issues. He, for a Reverand, has shown himself to be hypocritical in his personal life especially in the treatment of his own wife. He is not a good role model for the people he professes to stand for. Personally I think that he just like to be a "celebrity"."

Now you're taking his words or posting his words? What really is your intention behind all this, huh? I'm sensing something fishy here.

[Shazzam]

I am not saying anything different that some Black spokesmen themselves have already said such as the Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson.
Read this:
http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46440

Funny, this is the same person who spoke about this guy in other topic,

"Rev. Jesse Jackson is a controversial figure in the USA. He does not speak for all Blacks. Many Americans of African herritage think that he has done a disservice to the Minority cause in America on countless issues. He, for a Reverand, has shown himself to be hypocritical in his personal life especially in the treatment of his own wife. He is not a good role model for the people he professes to stand for. Personally I think that he just like to be a "celebrity"."

Now you're taking his words or posting his words? What really is your intention behind all this, huh? I'm sensing something fishy here.

Lenny this is a different guy. His name is Jesse Lee Petersen (NOT JACKSON). :?

[MissLT]

Lenny this is a different guy. His name is Jesse Lee Petersen (NOT JACKSON). :?

Oh yeah, just reading the article and checking the names. I saw Jess and i thought they were the same guy. I didn't pay attention to the last names. Okay, I'm taking whatever I said earlier back. Sorry Danyet for my mistake. Sorry. Sorry guys for the confusing. Heheheheh... how embarrassing! Heheheheheh... And thanks Shazzam to point out my mistake, by the way. I owe you one.

[Shazzam]

Lenny this is a different guy. His name is Jesse Lee Petersen (NOT JACKSON). :?

Oh yeah, just reading the article and checking the names. I saw Jess and i thought they were the same guy. I didn't pay attention to the last names. Okay, I'm taking whatever I said earlier back. Sorry Danyet for my mistake. Sorry. Sorry guys for the confusing. Heheheheh... how embarrassing! Heheheheheh... And thanks Shazzam to point out my mistake, by the way. I owe you one.

I thought it was better I tell you than Danyet.

[MissLT]

I thought it was better I tell you than Danyet.

Sometimes, he could be a pain in the... , but I'm gonna give him some benefit of the doubt that he wouldn't throw me in mud and laugh at me for this mistake. Or would he????

[Danyet]

No I wouldn't. I knew that some would confuse the two. Peterson is not popular amongst Liberal Democrat crowd and therefore media does not cover him as much as Jackson.

Peterson is amongst a growing minority of Black speakers. I like this guy. He is from the "roots". He is not as articulate or slick as Jackson. His message is not well received by those who expect things to "fall into their lap" . He says that Black Americans must build strong families again and that Jackson has set bad examples, by his treatment towards his own wife.

[Shazzam]

We heard on the news last night that Hurricane Rita has now hit texas and the New Orleans was underwater again; as the levies broke.

Does anyone have any further updates? :(

[MissLT]

No. Still the same old "donation for victims of Katrina." One thing really annoys me is why they have to name all the frigging storms and hurricanes as girl's names? :x

[Danyet]

No. Still the same old "donation for victims of Katrina." One thing really annoys me is why they have to name all the frigging storms and hurricanes as girl's names? :x

This is an old tradition of the English language. It goes along with referring to ships in the feminine and such. A few years back some women complained about the tradition of storms being given feminine names that they started to name some storms with mens names. I find storms with mens names to be irritating.

[Shazzam]

No. Still the same old "donation for victims of Katrina." One thing really annoys me is why they have to name all the frigging storms and hurricanes as girl's names? :x

This is an old tradition of the English language. It goes along with referring to ships in the feminine and such. A few years back some women complained about the tradition of storms being given feminine names that they started to name some storms with mens names. I find storms with mens names to be irritating.

I would say that the storms themselves are more irritating than there names.

[Shazzam]

No. Still the same old "donation for victims of Katrina." One thing really annoys me is why they have to name all the frigging storms and hurricanes as girl's names? :x

Ahh!~look at the power we women have!

[MissLT]

I would say that the storms themselves are more irritating than there names.

I would say the men are more irritating than the storms. Storms don't drink beers on the sofas or nag for sex.

[hedwig14]

the best thing to do is pray for them... its the biggest help we could ever give.

[Shazzam]

the best thing to do is pray for them... its the biggest help we could ever give.

Praying is great; but i'm sorry I don't believe that it is the best thing we can do for them. These people need, food, clothes, medical supplies and money to assist in the clean up and rebuilding of their homes. We need to help with these things.

[Shazzam]

Once again the storm has passed and so has the news coverage. :( We aren't getting any information in Australia about how the clean up and rebuilding is going. Does anyone have any news on how things are in New Orleans now that the storm has passed?

[Shazzam]

I have just finished watching a program called 'Frontline' on television. They had a documentary on the situation with Hurricane Katrina (late response).

What a mess. The Clinton administration set a new director into FEMA after the "OLD BUSH" administration had totally failed (by giving jobs to mates). With the new director in place (who had specialised in emergency/disaster relief) Fema was doing well and was able to handle many large scale emergencies.

It would appear that under "JNR BUSH" Fema has been taken back to 'Daddy's' ideal (jobs for the boys, no qualifications required).

FEMA has now lost all rights and Bush has set up a larger scale department that includes HOMELAND SECURITY, FEMA etc. etc. There were just so many departments that I couldn't grab all of their names.

It was a very interesting program, I really think at the end of the day the BUSH administration has totally stuffed up! AGAIN!

[MissLT]

I really think at the end of the day the BUSH administration has totally stuffed up! AGAIN!

What else is new?

[Danyet]

But you have to understand that Frontline is a television program produced by Bush and Republican haters in the first place. They do their job well!

[MissLT]

But you have to understand that Frontline is a television program produced by Bush and Republican haters in the first place. They do their job well!

And here I am wondering why...

[Shazzam]

But you have to understand that Frontline is a television program produced by Bush and Republican haters in the first place. They do their job well!

Yes I do understand that happens everywhere in the world (media sensationalism) however, most past and present members of Fema were interviewed together with the footage from the media coverage during the Katrina crisis. You just can't deny that no one knew what they were doing. :? Locals say that they asked for defined help; FEMA says that they didn't. Why should you have to define the help that you require if this is an organisation set up to deal with disaster relief. :? In addition tabled reports with setup disaster situations were never completed as the White House withdrew funding. The project name was HURRICANE PAM.

The other obvious fact is that FEMA was run so well under the Clinton administration and has collapsed under the Bush administration. The obvious reason is staff placement.

[Danyet]

I think that part of the problem is that FEMA is looked at by many as a prelude to "Big Brother" organizion and is feared by the far Right. This may have something to do with Clinton funding the program so well since the Democratic Party is the party of Big Brother.

[Shazzam]

I think that part of the problem is that FEMA is looked at by many as a prelude to "Big Brother" organizion and is feared by the far Right. This may have something to do with Clinton funding the program so well since the Democratic Party is the party of Big Brother.

At the end of the day I just don't think political preference should enter into a debate about an organisation setup to help American people with disaster relief. It doesn't matter who is in government; what matters is that the funding is kept up to these organisations to provide the services that they were designed for. America has large populations living in areas that are prone to, earthquake, flood, tornados, etc. You would have to be a foolish person to think that all these natural disasters are just going to go away; so that you no longer have to look at the fiscal issues.