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be calm man...

Postby phantomer » Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:13 pm

first of all i have to say something about my idea about the people from all over the world..i dont hate anybody from any nation and i am not prejudiced to anyone..i can be friend whole people who want to chat, want to share theirs opinions, want to deal ours ideas, etc...

i also do not believe that some nations is damned..i like every people, if they behave like humanbeing..i do not like the people unjust and are insisting on their unjust mode even if they are Türk...

and our topic...Türks and Türkiye...

initially i have to say something about armeniens and greeks...
they are always unable to stand again Türkiye..i think they are too unfaithful..though they have to thank to Türks, but they are slandering..and the well, charming, developed, philantrophic, benevolent west..yes, the west of the world is supporting them when they are trying to persuade whole world with their lies..but i am not talking about all armenians and greeks..i am talked about greeks and armenians who know realities but trying to spread theirs lies to young peoples, to students in theirs schools, etc...

all of these countries and the others have lived with eachother peacefully in the Ottoman Empire..think that, you are living in domination of one country for 600 years, after 600 years you still have your religion, you are still speaking your mother language, you are still named your babies with your cultures names...after 600 years, if you still can do these, we can mention about a great liberty..and like every starts, ottomans starts went to stop..in fact, everything started at these times..

anyway, i will explain you why armenians and greeks behaved like that..why they behaved too unfaithful against us..now i have no enough time..i cant write fastly in english, because i cant think fastly in english..

and the last one...as you know everybody use internet to prove theirs ideas and there are hundreds of web sites about everything...so it is not the best way to show some adresses..i think we should investigate ours ideas, read something about our thesis, and if we dont accept we should create our anti-thesis..it will support us to learn more about that..

see you...

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Postby Unknownsu » Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:46 pm

Well, from my point of view, it doesn't matter what kind of explanation you give, genocide cannot be justified.

It's ironic, isn't it? The quote from William W. Howard is exactly how you are describing the Americans today.

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Postby MissLT » Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:46 am

Unknownsu wrote:
How can it be prejudice when it's real since this person is stating what he saw and believed? CNN interviewed two former guards at the prison who did not partake in any of the torture rituals and found that these two guys wake up screaming every night to what they saw in the Iraqi prison. One can't even consider himself American anymore.

If you are going to torture (both mentally and physically) another human being for your own pleasure, you forfeit your right as a human being.

Okay, let's try this example, shall we?
From reading your posts, I can tell Violet, you, Chet Baker, greatJim, Triumph, Tonyyoung and other Chinese members of this board are smart; therefore, can I say all Chinese people are smart? What about other Chinese people who are just as dumb as a brick like the rest of the dumb people in this world? My example is exactly like what he's doing. He based his belief on pictures of some Americans who have degraded themselves as a human being. It has nothing to do with being an American or not; we're talking about one human being tortured another. However, he generalized the whole population of American based on the actions of some Americans. I call it prejudice.

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Postby Unknownsu » Tue Dec 20, 2005 6:58 am

Stereotypes and prejudice will always be part of this world no matter how hard we try to eradicate it and I agree with you. But I was aiming specifically at the American soldiers who tortured the numerous prisoners.

Btw, I'm not smart. I belong to the group of brick brains.

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Postby MissLT » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:08 am

Unknownsu wrote:Stereotypes and prejudice will always be part of this world no matter how hard we try to eradicate it and I agree with you. But I was aiming specifically at the American soldiers who tortured the numerous prisoners.

Btw, I'm not smart. I belong to the group of brick brains.

Oh don't flatter yourself. I was just trying to make my point. :lol: :lol:

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Postby Unknownsu » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:22 am

You brick brain! Please understand, I'm just trying to flatter you. :oops:

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Postby MissLT » Tue Dec 20, 2005 7:46 am

Unknownsu wrote:You brick brain! Please understand, I'm just trying to flatter you. :oops:

:shock: .... I can't speak! There is no word to describe how I'm feeling right now.... You apologize to me right now or....

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Postby mr_Love » Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:01 am

ohh, what's up guys!!!!

calm down!!

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Postby Unknownsu » Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:39 am

LennyeTran wrote:
Unknownsu wrote:You brick brain! Please understand, I'm just trying to flatter you. :oops:

:shock: .... I can't speak! There is no word to describe how I'm feeling right now.... You apologize to me right now or....

...or what?

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Postby MissLT » Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:14 am

Unknownsu wrote:
LennyeTran wrote:
Unknownsu wrote:You brick brain! Please understand, I'm just trying to flatter you. :oops:

:shock: .... I can't speak! There is no word to describe how I'm feeling right now.... You apologize to me right now or....

...or what?

Still thinking... but definitely something bad will happen. Be prepared if you don't apologize. Do it now. Do it now. Do it now. Now. Now. Now.

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Postby Shazzam » Thu Dec 22, 2005 9:48 pm

I have just had a read of some of the posts here. I must admit I would like someone to show me a country who's soldiers haven't committed some kind of war crime in WAR TIME. I think it would be difficult.

The hard thing is that countries send their soldiers into these places with instructions, sometimes during the course of a situation peoples minds change and bad things happen. I would say that all countries have soldiers that haven't always behaved as they should during WAR. :cry:

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Postby MissLT » Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:23 am

Shazzam wrote:I have just had a read of some of the posts here. I must admit I would like someone to show me a country who's soldiers haven't committed some kind of war crime in WAR TIME. I think it would be difficult.

The hard thing is that countries send their soldiers into these places with instructions, sometimes during the course of a situation peoples minds change and bad things happen. I would say that all countries have soldiers that haven't always behaved as they should during WAR. :cry:

For example, Germany. Let's talk about what they did to Jewish people, and we'll see American soldiers are just the same. But American people who haven't done a dar** thing to those people would be left out. Generalization kills our moral ethics!

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Postby Shazzam » Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:52 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
Shazzam wrote:I have just had a read of some of the posts here. I must admit I would like someone to show me a country who's soldiers haven't committed some kind of war crime in WAR TIME. I think it would be difficult.

The hard thing is that countries send their soldiers into these places with instructions, sometimes during the course of a situation peoples minds change and bad things happen. I would say that all countries have soldiers that haven't always behaved as they should during WAR. :cry:

For example, Germany. Let's talk about what they did to Jewish people, and we'll see American soldiers are just the same. But American people who haven't done a dar** thing to those people would be left out. Generalization kills our moral ethics!


The statement I made Lenny isn't a generalisation it is a fact. If you read any of the transcripts from WW1 and WW2 and Vietnam you will see that atrocities happened, it is just a fact. My country isn't totally innocent in this regard either. Some soldiers just lost it and behaved in a manner unbecoming their uniforms, just a fact. To say that it doesn't happen is naive.

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Re: US. army kills famlies in Iraq

Postby northernwolf » Mon Dec 26, 2005 12:59 pm

mr_Love wrote:Every day we hear news like this....

the amircan army kills ineccent people ...

i dont know why you donts see this news!!!!

your media is hiding the truth of Iraq

yaster day : and Amircan solders fired a bus which was talking a family to theri relative,,

women and kids were in it, and the father who is the driver,,

all of them died, only one young boy,, who watched his family ding in from of his eyes....

I really don't think see the war in the iraq in the TV,why the place need the war settle the religion problem and rule problem!!
I hope the peace in every corner in the world !!

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Postby MissLT » Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:06 am

Shazzam wrote:
The statement I made Lenny isn't a generalisation it is a fact. If you read any of the transcripts from WW1 and WW2 and Vietnam you will see that atrocities happened, it is just a fact. My country isn't totally innocent in this regard either. Some soldiers just lost it and behaved in a manner unbecoming their uniforms, just a fact. To say that it doesn't happen is naive.

I was talking about the other post, which he made a generalization. That's why it was wrong to me because generalization kills.

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Postby quykvfortech » Sat Feb 11, 2006 3:14 pm

I'm Quyvk
I'm from Viet nam and I'm Vietnamese
By radio, TV and Internet I known war in Iraq
I think this is invade of American in Iraq


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