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wedding of a year 2005

Post by hereiam » Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:40 pm

It happened. It simply happened. Two loving people married happily after many years of their happy life.
I feel I am starting to cry...I feel so moved.
Read more:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4546670.stm
Look at the pictures:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/4549050.stm

And now - my contest:
Who is a bride and who is a groom?:)
PS. I feel sorry for old queen Victoria. She must have been turning round in her grave out of fury.
:(

Only happy moments for just married:)
Thanks for reading for everyone else:)
:)

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Post by MissLT » Wed Dec 21, 2005 8:14 pm

The thin guy seems to be more of a bride than a groom to me :lol: .

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Post by mr_Love » Fri Dec 23, 2005 2:43 pm

do they mean a man marryed a man ???? :?: :?: :idea: :idea: :shock:


i dont understand

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Post by Anahita » Fri Dec 23, 2005 3:11 pm

mr_Love wrote:do they mean a man marryed a man ???? :?: :?: :idea: :idea: :shock:


i dont understand
me neither ! :lol: :lol: i loved his music so much but i always was thinking all these news about his gay realtionship are just some gossip you know ! :lol: untill i saw his picture with this dude ! :shock: :lol: :P :lol:

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let's make a triangle!:)

Post by hereiam » Fri Dec 23, 2005 6:07 pm

I will tell you what really puzzles me in case of gay marriages - in relationship between man and woman the last MOSTLY takes the surname of her husband.
What happens in case of gays/lesbians?
What legal regulations in countries when gay marriaged are legalized of course say about it???
Two females/males keep their surnames or they change them? If - how do they change them?

Next problem of mine -talking about gay/lesbian marriages I think over different problem - namely it is widely known that some people just LOVE living in triangles - I don't have in mind any family at all! Is it a triangle among heterosexual - two men and one woman or two women and one man. I suspect that some lesbinas/gays do the same - that they do like living in triangles too! (why not - on the other hand?)
They should have equal rights, shouldn't they?
:idea: :?:
Concluding my deduction - is it possible in future that ALL these triangles will be legalized too? And what with ...squares? and pentagons?
????????
Merry Christmas for everyone here:)
hereiam
PS. The thinner could be a woman be he still is bit taller ....

:roll: :D

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ps.

Post by hereiam » Fri Dec 23, 2005 9:29 pm

t just came into my mind that in some cultures people do have five wives and seven husbands and noone there thinks about legalizing this historical fact.
But apart from such cultural phenomenas - is it possble to love 5 wives or 5 husbands the same way at all ???
:roll:

:idea:

Thanks for any comments, indeed:)

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Post by Dixie » Sat Dec 24, 2005 9:36 am

I heard the news on the radio and I was so happy for them. That couple has been waiting for so long to get married. I am happy they finally made it.

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Post by Shazzam » Sat Dec 24, 2005 10:49 am

Dixie wrote:I heard the news on the radio and I was so happy for them. That couple has been waiting for so long to get married. I am happy they finally made it.
Elton John and his longtime boyfriend legally married in England this week. I reckon good on them. They have been together for years and they want to be recognised as a couple. The only thing I find confusing is he is Sir Elton John what is his spouse going to be called? :?

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Post by mr_Love » Sun Dec 25, 2005 12:35 pm

A man with a Man......

do they sleep together in the same bed!!!?!?!?!? :shock:

Ewwwww....... :? :shock:

this is crazy

they are changing the neture if humenbeing

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Post by Danyet » Sun Dec 25, 2005 10:03 pm

Finally Mr Love and I agree on something!

PS I suppose it does not matter who takes whos name because there will be no children to pass the name down to.

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Post by Dixie » Mon Dec 26, 2005 9:19 am

danyet wrote:
PS I suppose it does not matter who takes whos name because there will be no children to pass the name down to.
There's something called adoption :o

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Post by Dixie » Mon Dec 26, 2005 9:19 am

mr_Love wrote:A man with a Man......

do they sleep together in the same bed!!!?!?!?!? :shock:

Ewwwww....... :? :shock:

this is crazy

they are changing the neture if humenbeing
Who established the rules? Who said what is natural and what is not? I think love is natural.

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Post by Shazzam » Mon Dec 26, 2005 10:41 am

Dixie wrote:
mr_Love wrote:A man with a Man......

do they sleep together in the same bed!!!?!?!?!? :shock:

Ewwwww....... :? :shock:

this is crazy

they are changing the neture if humenbeing
Who established the rules? Who said what is natural and what is not? I think love is natural.
:shock: The bible dixie, maybe you should read it. :?

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Post by Dixie » Mon Dec 26, 2005 11:00 am

Shazzam wrote:
:shock: The bible dixie, maybe you should read it. :?
The Bible is, to me, a bunch of tales written by some men many centuries ago. The way of thinking of that time is reflected on it, obviously. I don't care what the bible says. I think there's nothing more beautiful that two people who love each other.

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Post by Shazzam » Mon Dec 26, 2005 12:04 pm

Dixie wrote:
Shazzam wrote:
:shock: The bible dixie, maybe you should read it. :?
The Bible is, to me, a bunch of tales written by some men many centuries ago. The way of thinking of that time is reflected on it, obviously. I don't care what the bible says. I think there's nothing more beautiful that two people who love each other.
Thats fine but i don't believe that we should legalise gay marriages, if they want a civil cereomony fine, if they want legal rights to property, fine, do it with a lawyer, but society shoudn't have to agree to adoption etc. It should be done privately. My beliefs are that it isn't right. But I have no problem with their sexuality i just don't see why the court systems should have to deal with it. I also don't agree with children being brought up in same sex relationships. It is hard enough for kids already.

The saying goes "it was Adam and Eve" not " Adam and Steve". :twisted:

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Post by illusion » Mon Dec 26, 2005 12:04 pm

Dixie wrote:
mr_Love wrote:A man with a Man......

do they sleep together in the same bed!!!?!?!?!? :shock:

Ewwwww....... :? :shock:

this is crazy

they are changing the neture if humenbeing
Who established the rules? Who said what is natural and what is not? I think love is natural.
indeed...Why can't they marry if they love each other? I mean they aren't doing any harm to anyone by their marriage, so why are some people outraged? I think we should respect and tolerate other people's decision and don't interfere in their matters...

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Post by mr_Love » Mon Dec 26, 2005 1:25 pm

danyet wrote:Finally Mr Love and I agree on something!

PS I suppose it does not matter who takes whos name because there will be no children to pass the name down to.
thanks Danyet,,,

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Post by mr_Love » Mon Dec 26, 2005 1:28 pm

the neture is a man with a women,,,,

i really dont agree with this ,,,,

how can you IMGINE this,,,, :roll: :roll: :!: :!: :!:

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Post by illusion » Mon Dec 26, 2005 3:40 pm

mr_Love wrote:the neture is a man with a women,,,,

i really dont agree with this ,,,,

how can you IMGINE this,,,, :roll: :roll: :!: :!: :!:
Why don't we all leave them in peace? They're happy together so what's the problem. It's not our business if they got married or not...honestly...

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Post by Dixie » Tue Dec 27, 2005 10:12 am

mr_Love wrote:the neture is a man with a women,,,,
You talk in the name of nature? :D

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Post by illusion » Tue Dec 27, 2005 12:13 pm

Dixie wrote:
mr_Love wrote:the neture is a man with a women,,,,
You talk in the name of nature? :D
LOL....(btw I wouldn't know that ''neture'' meant ''nature'' in this contest...)

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Post by mr_Love » Tue Dec 27, 2005 3:06 pm

ok girls ,,,,,

i'm out,,,,

let them do what they want ,,
but i only gave you my point,,,
Why don't we all leave them in peace? They're happy together so what's the problem. It's not our business if they got married or not...honestly
...

this is really hard replay ....

i didnt put this topic, :!:

you dont want poeple to share talk !!!

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Post by Oriani » Tue Dec 27, 2005 3:56 pm

mr_Love wrote:ok girls ,,,,,

i'm out,,,,

let them do what they want ,,
but i only gave you my point,,,
Why don't we all leave them in peace? They're happy together so what's the problem. It's not our business if they got married or not...honestly
...

this is really hard replay ....

i didnt put this topic, :!:

you dont want poeple to share talk !!!
Hey baby.. Come on, don't get angry!! I respect your point of view. ok?????? It's fine what you said...Everybody has a different way to see the things!!!! They got married.. man with a man... so??? DON'T WORRY.. you'll marry a woman right??? Be happy . sweetheart!

PS: I received your messages on my cellphone but when I came to the computer you had gone already!

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Post by FFFF » Tue Dec 27, 2005 11:15 pm

we must kill all those gays .
and kill all people who are fans those gays.

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Post by MissLT » Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:01 am

danyet wrote: Finally Mr Love and I agree on something!
:lol: I've heard that straight men who are afraid or disgusted at gays not because they feel that way, but it's because they're insecure of their sexuality. They're afraid they're not straight enough to not turning homosexual. :lol: :lol:
danyet wrote:PS I suppose it does not matter who takes whos name because there will be no children to pass the name down to.
It doesn't matter if a woman should get her husband's last name. It's no longer a man and wife; it's husband and wife. Therefore, if a woman wanted to keep her last name, she has the right to do so. There are single mothers who have children who carry their last names. What's your say about those cases? Abnormal to you?
Does it matter to homosexuals if their adopted children carry which last name? I doubt it.

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Post by MissLT » Wed Dec 28, 2005 6:03 am

FFFF wrote:we must kill all those gays .
and kill all people who are fans those gays.
And kill those who wouldn't support gays? Wow, what an empty world it would be... :lol:

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Post by Dixie » Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:29 am

FFFF wrote:we must kill all those gays .
and kill all people who are fans those gays.
And what do we do with people full of hatred?

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Post by Shazzam » Wed Dec 28, 2005 9:44 am

LennyeTran wrote:
danyet wrote: Finally Mr Love and I agree on something!
:lol: I've heard that straight men who are afraid or disgusted at gays not because they feel that way, but it's because they're insecure of their sexuality. They're afraid they're not straight enough to not turning homosexual. :lol: :lol:
danyet wrote:PS I suppose it does not matter who takes whos name because there will be no children to pass the name down to.
It doesn't matter if a woman should get her husband's last name. It's no longer a man and wife; it's husband and wife. Therefore, if a woman wanted to keep her last name, she has the right to do so. There are single mothers who have children who carry their last names. What's your say about those cases? Abnormal to you?
Does it matter to homosexuals if their adopted children carry which last name? I doubt it.
Men that are frightened of gay men are called homophobic.

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Post by vince90 » Wed Dec 28, 2005 1:56 pm

I have no problem with gay and lesbian. (especially lesbian :lol: ). However, it will be very hard for me to explain to my kids when they ask why those two men kissing each other.

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Post by Dixie » Wed Dec 28, 2005 3:02 pm

vince90 wrote:I have no problem with gay and lesbian. (especially lesbian :lol: ). However, it will be very hard for me to explain to my kids when they ask why those two men kissing each other.
Just tell them that they love each other, and that love doesn't understand the concept of boundaries.

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Post by vince90 » Wed Dec 28, 2005 4:23 pm

I understand what you said, but kids only understand marriage is between a man and a woman, a papa and a mamma. I am not ready to tell my kids about gays and I may never tell them. I think it is complicate and confuse for kids to understand it. Let them grow up and figure it out by themselves. Actually, I don’t support gays but I don’t against them either

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Post by MissLT » Wed Dec 28, 2005 5:30 pm

Shazzam wrote: Men that are frightened of gay men are called homophobic.
To me it's just a medical term to get things twisted like bunch of other neurological disorders medical terms such as migraine, herpetic meningoencephalitis, aspergilloma, epilepsy, etc. :wink:

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Post by MissLT » Wed Dec 28, 2005 5:33 pm

vince90 wrote:I understand what you said, but kids only understand marriage is between a man and a woman, a papa and a mamma. I am not ready to tell my kids about gays and I may never tell them. I think it is complicate and confuse for kids to understand it. Let them grow up and figure it out by themselves. Actually, I don’t support gays but I don’t against them either
What about families without a dad or have serveral moms? :?

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LennyeTran wrote:
vince90 wrote:I understand what you said, but kids only understand marriage is between a man and a woman, a papa and a mamma. I am not ready to tell my kids about gays and I may never tell them. I think it is complicate and confuse for kids to understand it. Let them grow up and figure it out by themselves. Actually, I don’t support gays but I don’t against them either
What about families without a dad or have serveral moms? :?

Oh I am sorry that I am talking about the definition of “marriage”, not the family. Yah, you’re right Len! I forgot men do have several wives in some countries. For me, I don’t think it is right neither. I do respect people have a different philosophy but I am not supporting what I am not believing.

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vince90 wrote:

Oh I am sorry that I am talking about the definition of “marriage”, not the family. Yah, you’re right Len! I forgot men do have several wives in some countries. For me, I don’t think it is right neither. I do respect people have a different philosophy but I am not supporting what I am not believing.
At least you're not against it. There are people who are against homosexuals in a way that is disrespectful to me. I mean, I'm Buddhist, but I've never fight against people who believe in Christianity or other religion to make them believing in what I believe in. So I don't get why people get all disgusted with others who happen to love what they're fond of.

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LennyeTran wrote:
danyet wrote:PS I suppose it does not matter who takes whos name because there will be no children to pass the name down to.
It doesn't matter if a woman should get her husband's last name. It's no longer a man and wife; it's husband and wife. Therefore, if a woman wanted to keep her last name, she has the right to do so. There are single mothers who have children who carry their last names. What's your say about those cases? Abnormal to you?
Does it matter to homosexuals if their adopted children carry which last name? I doubt it.
The wifes last name really doesn't matter. It is the fathers name that is traditionally given to the children. This is done because a child always knows who its mother is.

In the case of single mothers: If she has the child out of wedlock the kid should only be able to take the mothers name. This is why we have marriage.

As I said before, Who cares about poofters. If they want to get married let them but they should not be able to call it "marriage" That name is already reserved for normal and healthy couples. Let the Homos call it "Gayriage"

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danyet wrote: The wifes last name really doesn't matter. It is the fathers name that is traditionally given to the children. This is done because a child always knows who its mother is.
Uh huh, it's because men are too insecure to believe that their children are actually of them; therefore, they need some proof such as taking their last names??? Is it what you're really saying?
danyet wrote:In the case of single mothers: If she has the child out of wedlock the kid should only be able to take the mothers name. This is why we have marriage.
What is really the definition of marriage? Don't tell me it's between a man and a woman because if you say it, it means you would literally deny marriages of other people who are married to two wives or husbands and more.
danyet wrote:As I said before, Who cares about poofters. If they want to get married let them but they should not be able to call it "marriage" That name is already reserved for normal and healthy couples. Let the Homos call it "Gayriage"
Nuh huh, marriage is just an English word to define two people who are in a legal relationship in papers. To my own definition, a marriage is a companionship and partnership of two people who are deeply in love and wanted to make their love official and legal to others. It doesn't matter if a couple is heterosexuals or homosexuals we all need to make our love official and legal to others to be able to share what we both have together. For instance, when it's time we need to buy a house, adopt a kid, open a saving account, trust fund, make our wills, etc. Marriages are not just for heteros. You need to stop claiming everything is yours :evil: .

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Post by Shazzam » Fri Dec 30, 2005 12:25 am

I don't care what sexuality people are just as long as they don't try and impose it upon me or mine. Recently my husband was hit on by a gay man in the streets. I don't think that man will ever try that on anyone else again. :twisted: :twisted:

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LennyeTran wrote: Nuh huh, marriage is just an English word to define two people who are in a legal relationship in papers. To my own definition, a marriage is a companionship and partnership of two people who are deeply in love and wanted to make their love official and legal to others. It doesn't matter if a couple is heterosexuals or homosexuals we all need to make our love official and legal to others to be able to share what we both have together. For instance, when it's time we need to buy a house, adopt a kid, open a saving account, trust fund, make our wills, etc. Marriages are not just for heteros. You need to stop claiming everything is yours :evil: .
Your explanation of the word Marriage defies all the dictionaries ever printed......except up until a couple of years ago maybe!

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danyet wrote:
LennyeTran wrote: Nuh huh, marriage is just an English word to define two people who are in a legal relationship in papers. To my own definition, a marriage is a companionship and partnership of two people who are deeply in love and wanted to make their love official and legal to others. It doesn't matter if a couple is heterosexuals or homosexuals we all need to make our love official and legal to others to be able to share what we both have together. For instance, when it's time we need to buy a house, adopt a kid, open a saving account, trust fund, make our wills, etc. Marriages are not just for heteros. You need to stop claiming everything is yours :evil: .
Your explanation of the word Marriage defies all the dictionaries ever printed......except up until a couple of years ago maybe!
Why is it that when a child is born out of wedlock (marriage) they are called 'bast.rd'. :?

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:lol: :lol: As if! :lol: :lol:

Danyet I was trying to be serious. :lol:

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Post by Danyet » Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:14 am

Shazzam wrote:
:lol: :lol: As if! :lol: :lol:

Danyet I was trying to be serious. :lol:
Er....sorry!
I read somewhere that the word "bastard" has to do the the French word for "pack saddle". Something about Fench mule teamers that spent nights camped near small villagers and occacionally "got Lucky" with the local village girls.

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Shazzam wrote:I don't care what sexuality people are just as long as they don't try and impose it upon me or mine. Recently my husband was hit on by a gay man in the streets. I don't think that man will ever try that on anyone else again. :twisted: :twisted:
:? This is strange to me. I know gay guys, and I've gone to the club with them. I've seen one of them could easily point out which guy was gay or straight. It's bizzare to hear they make this mistake.

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danyet wrote:
LennyeTran wrote: Nuh huh, marriage is just an English word to define two people who are in a legal relationship in papers. To my own definition, a marriage is a companionship and partnership of two people who are deeply in love and wanted to make their love official and legal to others. It doesn't matter if a couple is heterosexuals or homosexuals we all need to make our love official and legal to others to be able to share what we both have together. For instance, when it's time we need to buy a house, adopt a kid, open a saving account, trust fund, make our wills, etc. Marriages are not just for heteros. You need to stop claiming everything is yours :evil: .
Your explanation of the word Marriage defies all the dictionaries ever printed......except up until a couple of years ago maybe!
Two homosexuals are not two people? What are they to you, dogs? :x

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LennyeTran wrote: Your explanation of the word Marriage defies all the dictionaries ever printed......except up until a couple of years ago maybe!
Two homosexuals are not two people? What are they to you, dogs? :x[/quote] They are less than that if they try to change the laws so they can adopt kids.

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Post by Shazzam » Fri Dec 30, 2005 5:54 am

LennyeTran wrote:
Shazzam wrote:I don't care what sexuality people are just as long as they don't try and impose it upon me or mine. Recently my husband was hit on by a gay man in the streets. I don't think that man will ever try that on anyone else again. :twisted: :twisted:
:? This is strange to me. I know gay guys, and I've gone to the club with them. I've seen one of them could easily point out which guy was gay or straight. It's bizzare to hear they make this mistake.
This happened on boxing day Lenny. My husband was standing near the beach car park waiting for me to pick him up after being to the shops. He certainly doesn't look gay. He is a very striking looking man though. Take it from me, he was furious. The guy must have been a total sicko! :twisted: In addition my husband wears a wedding ring. Not that that means much anymore. :roll:

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danyet wrote:They are less than that if they try to change the laws so they can adopt kids.
:shock: You are a horrible, horrbile, horrible man without a soul and a heart. What is wrong with you, dude? Man, I'm feeling like I should b*tch-slap you so muuuuuuuuuuch.

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This happened on boxing day Lenny. My husband was standing near the beach car park waiting for me to pick him up after being to the shops. He certainly doesn't look gay. He is a very striking looking man though. Take it from me, he was furious. The guy must have been a total sicko! :twisted: In addition my husband wears a wedding ring. Not that that means much anymore. :roll:
:? Was he really serious? It's bizzare to me, you know. I know gay guys and believe me, they can tell which guy is gay or straight.

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Shazzam wrote:
LennyeTran wrote:
Shazzam wrote:I don't care what sexuality people are just as long as they don't try and impose it upon me or mine. Recently my husband was hit on by a gay man in the streets. I don't think that man will ever try that on anyone else again. :twisted: :twisted:
:? This is strange to me. I know gay guys, and I've gone to the club with them. I've seen one of them could easily point out which guy was gay or straight. It's bizzare to hear they make this mistake.
This happened on boxing day Lenny. My husband was standing near the beach car park waiting for me to pick him up after being to the shops. He certainly doesn't look gay. He is a very striking looking man though. Take it from me, he was furious. The guy must have been a total sicko! :twisted: In addition my husband wears a wedding ring. Not that that means much anymore. :roll:
Perhaps the man was actually one of those sado-masso type homos I've heard about. You know, he was secretly hoping for a good thrashing.

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danyet wrote:Perhaps the man was actually one of those sado-masso type homos I've heard about. You know, he was secretly hoping for a good thrashing.
:lol: :lol: Heh heh heh heh! "Bad, Danyet, bad boy. Stop laughing." :lol: :lol:

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LennyeTran wrote:
danyet wrote:They are less than that if they try to change the laws so they can adopt kids.
:shock: You are a horrible, horrbile, horrible man without a soul and a heart. What is wrong with you, dude? Man, I'm feeling like I should b*tch-slap you so muuuuuuuuuuch.
It's a crime against humanity to do that to a childs mind. Why shouldn't I stick up for a kids right to have a REAL mum and a REAL dad? But to give kids a childhood based on a disfunctional idea that the kid can't understand and may very well grow up to be ashamed of. To take away their chance to have fond memories of a mother or father. Now that is a crime worthy of being tried in the Hague.


ps........the best part of a good bich slappin is the making up afterwards....don't you think?

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This happened on boxing day Lenny. My husband was standing near the beach car park waiting for me to pick him up after being to the shops. He certainly doesn't look gay. He is a very striking looking man though. Take it from me, he was furious. The guy must have been a total sicko! :twisted: In addition my husband wears a wedding ring. Not that that means much anymore. :roll:
:? Was he really serious? It's bizzare to me, you know. I know gay guys and believe me, they can tell which guy is gay or straight.
Yeh Lenny so do I, my brother is gay, so i know first hand about the culture. This guy was serious and he was an arseh.le what more can I say. You can't possibly defend someone who acts this way, he was a ~ predator. :twisted:

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danyet wrote:
Shazzam wrote:
LennyeTran wrote: :? This is strange to me. I know gay guys, and I've gone to the club with them. I've seen one of them could easily point out which guy was gay or straight. It's bizzare to hear they make this mistake.
This happened on boxing day Lenny. My husband was standing near the beach car park waiting for me to pick him up after being to the shops. He certainly doesn't look gay. He is a very striking looking man though. Take it from me, he was furious. The guy must have been a total sicko! :twisted: In addition my husband wears a wedding ring. Not that that means much anymore. :roll:
Perhaps the man was actually one of those sado-masso type homos I've heard about. You know, he was secretly hoping for a good thrashing.
Yeh well Danyet from the look of my husbands knuckles he got what he was after. He will be eating out of a straw for a while. So maybe that will keep him off the beaches and away from people. SICKO!!

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danyet wrote:It's a crime against humanity to do that to a childs mind. Why shouldn't I stick up for a kids right to have a REAL mum and a REAL dad? But to give kids a childhood based on a disfunctional idea that the kid can't understand and may very well grow up to be ashamed of. To take away their chance to have fond memories of a mother or father. Now that is a crime worthy of being tried in the Hague.
It is still better than having a memory of your own adopted mother or father trying to molest you.

danyet wrote:ps........the best part of a good bich slappin is the making up afterwards....don't you think?
Oh, shut up! :lol:

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Yeh Lenny so do I, my brother is gay, so i know first hand about the culture. This guy was serious and he was an ~.le what more can I say. You can't possibly defend someone who acts this way, he was a ~ predator. :twisted:
I wasn't. I was confused and surprised because I thought they could tell which guy was straight or gay. I don't know any gay guys who try to hit on straight guy. This is the first time I've heard of it. That's why I was having an idea that the guy might be joking with your husband.

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Shazzam wrote:
Yeh Lenny so do I, my brother is gay, so i know first hand about the culture. This guy was serious and he was an ~.le what more can I say. You can't possibly defend someone who acts this way, he was a ~ predator. :twisted:
I wasn't. I was confused and surprised because I thought they could tell which guy was straight or gay. I don't know any gay guys who try to hit on straight guy. This is the first time I've heard of it. That's why I was having an idea that the guy might be joking with your husband.
If it was a joke it was in poor taste, and he won't use it again. Take it from me it was no joke, i don't want to go into the details as I probably shouldn't have said anything at all. But if I could have caught the guy I would have stuck my foot right up his holiday resort.!

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If it was a joke it was in poor taste, and he won't use it again. Take it from me it was no joke, i don't want to go into the details as I probably shouldn't have said anything at all. But if I could have caught the guy I would have stuck my foot right up his holiday resort.!
On the other hand, it was kinda a compliment, don't you think? I mean, your husband was attractively good looking that the gay guy didn't even care if he was married or not gay. Something like this doesn't happen every day, you know :wink: . Personally, I normally wouldn't care if some b*tch trying to hit on my man. I mean, she can waste all her time to try if she wants to, but he's going home with me at the end. Wasting her time to sexify him and I'll be the one who get the final batch :lol: .

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LennyeTran wrote:
Shazzam wrote:
If it was a joke it was in poor taste, and he won't use it again. Take it from me it was no joke, i don't want to go into the details as I probably shouldn't have said anything at all. But if I could have caught the guy I would have stuck my foot right up his holiday resort.!
On the other hand, it was kinda a compliment, don't you think? I mean, your husband was attractively good looking that the gay guy didn't even care if he was married or not gay. Something like this doesn't happen every day, you know :wink: . Personally, I normally wouldn't care if some b*tch trying to hit on my man. I mean, she can waste all her time to try if she wants to, but he's going home with me at the end. Wasting her time to sexify him and I'll be the one who get the final batch :lol: .
Its different for men hitting on men, my husband is deadset against gay men to begin with (alot of Aussie guys are). This guy was asking for trouble. Danyet would know what I mean. It is not a good idea to hit on a straight guy in Australia. You will get you face re-arranged.

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Post by hereiam » Mon Jan 02, 2006 7:09 pm

Hi:)
I would like to make a compliment into your fervent discussion about a piece of news I read two days ago. Namely, it was put in the article that in Canada young people above 14 can make a group sex in pub. Please, explain to me how do they do a group sex in pubs??? In toilets? inside the pub??? on tables???
I have never been in Canada till now so I would like to know:)

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Post by Anahita » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:10 pm

Hi:)
I would like to make a compliment into your fervent discussion about a piece of news I read two days ago. Namely, it was put in the article that in Canada young people above 14 can make a group sex in pub. Please, explain to me how do they do a group sex in pubs??? In toilets? inside the pub??? on tables???
I have never been in Canada till now so I would like to know:)
oh , what an interesting news , may i ask what's group sex exactly? its like arranging a social activity about real sex experiments in a public places like pubs? :? or may be its just a .. lol .. i dont know .. i am confused ! :lol: *scratching her head*

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Post by hereiam » Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:56 am

Good question. I think the best would be to travel to Canada and ask some pub owners how do they understand this new legal achievement.
I mean - are they planning to instal in their pubs some additional areas/facilities to adjust into new demnds or the old ones are good enough?
And I would ask them also - how do they see the problem of contemporary pubs - namely does the role of pubs has been changed? When and why it has happened? And I woud ask them the last question - if they can give a presumptive direction of futher developement of what used to be a place of socializing but in quite different dimention that it seems to be nowadays.
Describing the problem in different way - when age of group sex in pubs fades away what age will come??? Stone Age???

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- dimension - I wanted to write probably:)
- Has the role of pubs been changed ? probably would sound better:)

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FFFF wrote:we must kill all those gays .
and kill all people who are fans those gays.
hhh realy ,,so you don't have any brains ... we must not kill them ,we must direct them to the correct .
and please don't be tough ,,special if you a new member hare :lol:
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I hate that man marry man ,or woman marry woman:
first if we have a lot of this case, the human race will
cut back to extinction :lol:
so ..The world will become empty,
and I think this case makes me disgust
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Post by ahmads » Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:58 am

guys ,,what do you think about man marries his sister??? :lol: :lol:

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ahmads wrote:guys ,,what do you think about man marries his sister??? :lol: :lol:
:twisted: :evil:

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ahmads wrote:guys ,,what do you think about man marries his sister??? :lol: :lol:
:twisted: :evil:
yes,,it is very bad
I think pharaohs men have married them sisters , right?

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Post by Anahita » Wed Jan 04, 2006 12:11 pm

Its true , infact it was a very usual tradition among the royalty falimies in Egypt and even Persia , sort of action for keeping royalty blood pure and saving all the wealth in the circle of the family , and i agree with you that is gross and nasty but at that time it was a very wise solution for some difficult situtions .. but oh well these ancient people knew what they were doing .. :roll:

http://www.womenintheancientworld.com/b ... rriage.htm

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Anahita wrote:and i agree with you that is gross and nasty but at that time it was a very wise solution for some difficult situtions .. but oh well these ancient people knew what they were doing .. :roll:
hhhhhh wise solution????????????? :lol: :shock: tell me any wise solution this is?? :shock: :?
for Difficult situation :shock: :shock:
really? are you serious about that???? :shock: :?:

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Post by Anahita » Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:20 pm

hey why you are so confused? :lol: we are talking about a historical tradition which was happening about 2000 years ago , i didn't mean (or say ) its a right thing to do !

and well , probably i am not the most qualified person for talking about historical facts right now but as far as i know such a thing only was happening in royal families and mostly trying to reject a politic problems and chaos's , was the only cause of it (ofcourse some religious beliefs were involve too , especially in Egypt).
check the link and you will see what i meant. oh and once again they knew what they were doing but it doesn't mean they were always right about it and i was just trying to look at this subject from a historical POV ! :P :wink:

P.S:
hhhhhh wise solution????????????? tell me any wise solution this is??
ok let see what we will find in Net about this subject :wink: i am trying to find some other links about the events which were the cause of such a marriages and will post those later , hopefully :D

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Anahita wrote:hey why you are so confused? :lol: we are talking about a historical tradition which was happening about 2000 years ago , i didn't mean (or say ) its a right thing to do !

and well , probably i am not the most qualified person for talking about historical facts right now but as far as i know such a thing only was happening in royal families and mostly trying to reject a politic problems and chaos's , was the only cause of it (ofcourse some religious beliefs were involve too , especially in Egypt).
check the link and you will see what i meant. oh and once again they knew what they were doing but it doesn't mean they were always right about it and i was just trying to look at this subject from a historical POV ! :P :wink:

P.S:
hhhhhh wise solution????????????? tell me any wise solution this is??
ok let see what we will find in Net about this subject :wink: i am trying to find some other links about the events which were the cause of such a marriages and will post those later , hopefully :D
I know you agree with me ,,,
but when you said ((wise solution)) :shock: :?: :?: :?:
and difficult :shock: :shock:
but I'm waiting you websites

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mr_Love wrote:A man with a Man......

do they sleep together in the same bed!!!?!?!?!? :shock:

Ewwwww....... :? :shock:

this is crazy

they are changing the neture if humenbeing
To that gay and femme ,I don't know whether they need to do this action to this world.At ago,we never saw and listened this absurd things.I only shout to the sky "my god !!!!!"

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hereiam wrote:Hi:)
I would like to make a compliment into your fervent discussion about a piece of news I read two days ago. Namely, it was put in the article that in Canada young people above 14 can make a group sex in pub. Please, explain to me how do they do a group sex in pubs??? In toilets? inside the pub??? on tables???
I have never been in Canada till now so I would like to know:)
Links to the article, please.

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northernwolf wrote: To that gay and femme ,I don't know whether they need to do this action to this world.At ago,we never saw and listened this absurd things.I only shout to the sky "my god !!!!!"
Because they didn't tell. Homosexuality has been prosecuted for years in many societies, although it has always existed. Do you think it's something new? It's not a fashion, you know. There have always been gays and lesbians. Many celebrities are or were homosexual. You'd be surprised... Julius Caesar, Leonardo Da Vinci, and so on! There's no need to look at the sky and think "oh my god", you just need to open your mind to something that has always been there, but we didn't see.

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At least Leonardo had the decency to not expect he could marry his boyfriend. :D

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danyet wrote:At least Leonardo had the decency to not expect he could marry his boyfriend. :D
:shock: He had a boyfriend? Who was he? :?

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danyet wrote:At least Leonardo had the decency to not expect he could marry his boyfriend. :D
:shock: He had a boyfriend? Who was he? :?
Yeh me too. I want to know. This is the first I have heard of this. Wasn't he going with some sexy model for years? I'm :shock:

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Yeh me too. I want to know. This is the first I have heard of this. Wasn't he going with some sexy model for years? I'm :shock:
I know he loved to draw men, but I didn't know he was gay. When I saw his drawings, I was thinking, "d**n, this guy is a fruit!" but I was joking. I never thought he swinged that way. And I think some of his models must have been his boyfriend or girlfriend, whatever, since he was surrounded by young men only, right?

I love his Vitruvian Man drawing the best. Mona Lisa, on the other hand, was gay. I never get that painting. She's too ugly to me. Also, what's up with her mouth? Is she smiling, mocking, crying or what? To me it's either she's mocking someone's joke or she's crying. It cannot be a smile since I never seen such a weird smile.

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Dixie wrote:
northernwolf wrote: To that gay and femme ,I don't know whether they need to do this action to this world.At ago,we never saw and listened this absurd things.I only shout to the sky "my god !!!!!"
Because they didn't tell. Homosexuality has been prosecuted for years in many societies, although it has always existed. Do you think it's something new? It's not a fashion, you know. There have always been gays and lesbians. Many celebrities are or were homosexual. You'd be surprised... Julius Caesar, Leonardo Da Vinci, and so on! There's no need to look at the sky and think "oh my god", you just need to open your mind to something that has always been there, but we didn't see.
But homosexuality wedding don't accepted by me ,why do they wedding in the public,what are they need gain in the society,I don't know what the homosexuality'thinking in the heart~~~~~~

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northernwolf wrote: But homosexuality wedding don't accepted by me ,why do they wedding in the public,what are they need gain in the society,I don't know what the homosexuality'thinking in the heart~~~~~~
Sometimes we face something we can't understand, but we must accept it as it is part of our world. They don't do you any harm, do they? Then just let them be. They have their life, and you have yours ;) Everybody deserves to be happy.

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Yeh me too. I want to know. This is the first I have heard of this. Wasn't he going with some sexy model for years? I'm :shock:
Leonardo Da Vinci, Shazzam ;) :lol: Not DiCaprio :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Dixie wrote:
northernwolf wrote: But homosexuality wedding don't accepted by me ,why do they wedding in the public,what are they need gain in the society,I don't know what the homosexuality'thinking in the heart~~~~~~
Sometimes we face something we can't understand, but we must accept it as it is part of our world. They don't do you any harm, do they? Then just let them be. They have their life, and you have yours ;) Everybody deserves to be happy.
I have no problem with homosexuality. Live and Let Live. But I do tend to agree with Northernwolf it makes a mockery of the church. If they want to marry they should do it through a civil service in private. Lets face it there is no way society is ever going to accept them as a married couple, if they feel the need to complete their relationship legally, do it through documentation, not by pushing what is not acceptable by the church. :roll:

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Shazzam wrote:
Dixie wrote:
northernwolf wrote: But homosexuality wedding don't accepted by me ,why do they wedding in the public,what are they need gain in the society,I don't know what the homosexuality'thinking in the heart~~~~~~
Sometimes we face something we can't understand, but we must accept it as it is part of our world. They don't do you any harm, do they? Then just let them be. They have their life, and you have yours ;) Everybody deserves to be happy.
I have no problem with homosexuality. Live and Let Live. But I do tend to agree with Northernwolf it makes a mockery of the church. If they want to marry they should do it through a civil service in private. Lets face it there is no way society is ever going to accept them as a married couple, if they feel the need to complete their relationship legally, do it through documentation, not by pushing what is not acceptable by the church. :roll:
The society is crazy.so I must open my mind and understand some change in the world,may be I am tradite man ,I never accept the homosexuality in the deep of my heart.I strongle agree above!!

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northernwolf wrote:
mr_Love wrote:A man with a Man......

do they sleep together in the same bed!!!?!?!?!? :shock:

Ewwwww....... :? :shock:

this is crazy

they are changing the neture if humenbeing
To that gay and femme ,I don't know whether they need to do this action to this world.At ago,we never saw and listened this absurd things.I only shout to the sky "my god !!!!!"
YES!!northernwolf.. I AGREE WITH YOU ...

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Re:Re: I find all changing crazy in the world !!!!

Post by ANDYTAN » Mon Jan 09, 2006 8:18 pm

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northernwolf wrote: But homosexuality wedding don't accepted by me ,why do they wedding in the public,what are they need gain in the society,I don't know what the homosexuality'thinking in the heart~~~~~~
Sometimes we face something we can't understand, but we must accept it as it is part of our world. They don't do you any harm, do they? Then just let them be. They have their life, and you have yours ;) Everybody deserves to be happy.
I have no problem with homosexuality. Live and Let Live. But I do tend to agree with Northernwolf it makes a mockery of the church. If they want to marry they should do it through a civil service in private. Lets face it there is no way society is ever going to accept them as a married couple, if they feel the need to complete their relationship legally, do it through documentation, not by pushing what is not acceptable by the church. :roll:

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Re:Re: I find all changing crazy in the world !!!!

Post by ANDYTAN » Mon Jan 09, 2006 8:46 pm

Shazzam wrote:
Dixie wrote:
northernwolf wrote: But homosexuality wedding don't accepted by me ,why do they wedding in the public,what are they need gain in the society,I don't know what the homosexuality'thinking in the heart~~~~~~
Sometimes we face something we can't understand, but we must accept it as it is part of our world. They don't do you any harm, do they? Then just let them be. They have their life, and you have yours ;) Everybody deserves to be happy.
I have no problem with homosexuality. Live and Let Live. But I do tend to agree with Northernwolf it makes a mockery of the church. If they want to marry they should do it through a civil service in private. Lets face it there is no way society is ever going to accept them as a married couple, if they feel the need to complete their relationship legally, do it through documentation, not by pushing what is not acceptable by the church. :roll:
AS you know , about the homosexuality's contest continuance a long time .. of course , we didn't power to continuance other peoples to love by themselves . but in my heart i ever so hate it . maybe i influenced by our country's culture. in china. parts of peoples ever so tradition and object the homosexuality's happening . even haven't any of principle and edict to clear show that to forbid such as it's happen. but if it happen. all of us would look down upon and joking of them. this's why they would hide when they love together. it's would different in fremdness. maybe their thinking is opened than us. it's just my personly think... welcome your comment !! thx! .

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Post by tikay » Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:48 pm

Thanks for the sites Danyet....gee I feel a little sick now since viewing the angel with the erection....thanks alot....the whole idea is a little freaky, gay love is fine and acceptable to me but...next to pornographic (erect) angels...which just makes me queasy and a little sick.
(The way some of you feel about gays.)

I was once like you guys but I had friends live in my place already in 1980, when I was only 18... who were gay and I got over myself... had to quell those freaked out inhibitions then, and ever since I have had many gay and lesbian friends....they are just folks...people, who have an inherant attraction to the same sex...it is not as big a deal as the phobic want to make it.

I say grow up and smell the coffee, people because the clock will never be turned back...this is the real world and you can take it or leave it. Gays are here to stay and we might try seeing them as human's with the ability to do great things no matter what they do in bed.

I am sick of the hateful homophobe myself. If this Love is not challanged and hated by so many... maybe they could be more effective in their own emotional/spiritual growth by putting their hatred on a shelf and becoming friends with gay people.

It is a good solution to dealing with your hatred/ignorance.
Shazzam i don't agree in the violence against the fellow who came on to you guy either...how can you condone it and state that your very own brother is gay also. If he came on to straits (which he does, i can almost assure you, I know loads of gay men) would you want to see him beat up....I don't think so!

So why is it okay for your guy to kick someones ass but otherwise you like gays? That is wierd. Suppose your guy didn't get all crazed and just said no thanks fella I am taken....or something like this...which is the proper reaction to something like that. I have never kicked anyones ass who came on to me when I was married...that would be ludacris to me. Why is that fine to you. Did you even bother to imagine if that same sort of thing would have happened to your brother?

I get so mad over this!
What if the strait person, (in the position of your hubby) had consented to the guy....he would have been able to meet someone nice right, maybe have a love affaire....what if it were a woman who came on to him...would you then beat her up?
There is too much condoning of violence, over the gay person acting naturally... like anyone else does, I think women must come on to your husband too if he is striking...does he not put them off with mere words...
arrrgh! :evil:

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Post by tikay » Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:21 pm

danyet wrote:At least Leonardo had the decency to not expect he could marry his boyfriend. :D


That was a very long time ago in a different world...what do you suppose any great artist would do these days...he would give you the finger for starters....in fact I will do it for him :twisted:
maybe you need some better links...or to come visit me in Hollywood area where people get respect for having the cajones to be themselves, whether they like guys or girls is irrelevent, we like people for who they are and what they do with their time outside of the sack...regardless of gender or transgender :lol: .

In fact one of my best mates is changing gender, to become a female, she is transexual and vey popular with everyone because she a good person, loveable and kind, from the UK...as a man he was a foreman for a huge construction company who hid behind a false masculinity for most of his life. As a man..."He" played the role completely...Ozzy Osborne was still the choice on the tele ring-tone, in fact, so watch out for your friends they may be acting macho ...you just never know. :lol:

Dont take "the finger" too seriously...all my friends have seen mine, a time or two.

My moods come and go...the anger is all used up now. Anyway you are entitled to be shallow if you like.

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Post by MissLT » Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:23 am

Danyet is homophobic, tikay. :roll: I know, it's sad, isn't it. But you have to remember he used to be a cowboy. He spent days and nights with men. Thus, I wouldn't really be surprised if he said he was bi. Instead he was straight and insecure with his masculinity like other straight guys who fear of homosexuals.

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Post by tikay » Tue Mar 28, 2006 7:54 am

Its cool....Danyet is like most guys and I adore them...even when they earful from this flower child...I can be so preachy when I get upset, sorry all. i don't mean to get all uppity :oops: ...the subject of being afraid of gay people, it just seems so childish to me...i walk in the streets with gang members and even they seem harmless to me because I am not afraid, even when I should be.
We should stop putting gay people in some category like they live outside the bounds of morality because that is just a big lie. Better two loving and caring gay parents, than say one or two argumentative, neglegent, alcoholic, drug-abusive or just abusive straight parents anyday...am I right?

Gay people are not child molesters...at least not any more than straights, and since so many are scared to death of gay people it is less likely they will have an oppurtunity to prey on a child...should they want to... than the unsuspected friend or family member. But I guess it is fear that makes the world go round...or was that love?

:lol:

here is a link for tolerance:
it seems that 21 religions believe in tenants similar to the Golden Rule, which is a favorite of mine....to treat people as you like to be treated:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/reciproc.htm

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