Muhammed is the super star of western press/LINK TO CARTOONS

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who is guilty for unleashing terror

arab countries
1
8%
islam and arab culture
3
25%
ben laden and other terrorists supported by arab countries
1
8%
western world
4
33%
all humankind
3
25%
free press
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Muhammed is the super star of western press/LINK TO CARTOONS

Postby Monster » Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:36 am

Hello. Today we all are eyewitnesses of a new circuit of the old conflict between two civilizations western and eastern (Muslim). Arabs all over the world set on fire flags of western countries threaten taking hostages and breaking down western embassies. All this began due to printing some ridiculous pictures of the Muslim prophet in western press.

Who is guilty for this new round of the conflict? Is this a proper reaction of Arab countries to show their resentment?( if it is any base for a resentment at all ) Is this a reaction that belongs to civilized people or to barbarians which are the main threat of democracy ever? If it is the last, the question how we (the free world) should act how we can restrict such a behavior that may lead to worse consequences including death of innocent people. The last is that many Arab’s terrorist organizations want, waiting for every reason to continue bloodshed and by doing so warm up the world
to a new war!

Im sure that these religious fanatics must be stopped at all costs because if they won't be stopped now after will be too late. It is the same situation as was before WW2 when world closed eyes on what was going on in Nazi Germany and when it opened them it was too late.

here are all pictures, thanks to free press and internet :lol: :lol: :lol:
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004413.htm
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Postby Danyet » Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:41 am

A very interesting link! A good collection of artwork dating back many centuries can be found there also. I especially liked the medieval painting of our boy Mohammed getting tortured in hell by some demon looking thing.

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Postby Monster » Sat Feb 04, 2006 11:58 am

:lol:

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Postby gulf girl » Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:01 pm

inter here before writing any single word
http://www.englishclub.com/esl-forums/viewtopic.php?t=33159


Peace upon you
I'm a Muslim girl ( Thanks God )
What if the Muslims did the same thing with your monks !!
You will call it a terror !!
But Muslims never do same machinations because they respect all the religious
( but not believe )
It's a real resentment not just a show !!!
By the way ... you don't know what is the real Islam mean ... It's not what you are tought from your presidents (if it is any base to be a president at all !)

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Postby Arale » Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:59 pm

Everyone, this is really a serious problem. There are a lot of attacts in Denmark now because of these cartoon pictures. We can continue our discussion but please respect others' religion as well as respect your friends here. I hope there won't have a battle about this. Thanks! :roll:

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Postby Danyet » Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:22 pm

gulf girl wrote:inter here before writing any single word
http://www.englishclub.com/esl-forums/viewtopic.php?t=33159


Peace upon you

What if the Muslims did the same thing with your monks !!
You will call it a terror !!
But Muslims never do same machinations because they respect all the religious
( but not believe )
It's a real resentment not just a show !!!
By the way ... you don't know what is the real Islam mean ... It's not what you are tought from your presidents (if it is any base to be a president at all !)
I sometimes wonder how much Muslims know of the true nature of the world. Your post shows true ignorance of not only history but the world as it is today.

Muslims hoards have already debased monks in history and forced any Christians and Jews still living in lands conquered by the Islamic war lords to PAY A FEE for NOT converting to Islam.

Even today Musllims are BURNING Christian churches.

Does the world get all upset and mad about this as you Muslims are over a few cartoons..........NO THEY DON"T!
Most people recognize everyone's right to speak as they wish. Only Muslims try to force their wishes on the rest of the world. YOU ARE PROOF OF THAT by your rediculous posts about Mohammed.

Now the other thing that you are obviously not aware of is that we who are normal (IE not Muslims) are continually making fun of our own religious figures in cartoons, books and movies. We draw cartoons of our political leaders EVERY DAY. And we say slanderous things about the Queen or president down at the pub after work.

So, we are sure ae hell not going to stop drawing cartoons or saying things about Mohammed. Espesially since Mohammed is DEAD and can no longer make war on innocent people, thank God!!!!

Telling us that we should disrespect Mohammed is the same as telling us not to disrespect ADOLF HITLER.

So why don't you do yourself a favour and keep your religion to yourself. You should be embarrassed to even talk about it. Now go and have a ham sandwich.

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Postby Dixie » Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:44 pm

I just saw the caricataures and honestly I don't understand what the fuss is all about.

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Postby Danyet » Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:56 pm

Dixie wrote:I just saw the caricataures and honestly I don't understand what the fuss is all about.
They are really noy that bad, are they. Imagine what would happen if I had drawn them. Quite a few years hollywood mad a film about Mohammed with the actor Anthony Quinn playing MOhammed. The Muslims made such a stink about it that the producers succumed and agreed only to show the actor who was playing Mohammed from behind.

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Postby ahmads » Sun Feb 05, 2006 6:23 pm

Dixie wrote:I just saw the caricataures and honestly I don't understand what the fuss is all about.

Dixie , if you know who is Mohammed correctly you will know what they mean
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Postby ahmads » Sun Feb 05, 2006 6:43 pm

danyet wrote:
Dixie wrote:I just saw the caricataures and honestly I don't understand what the fuss is all about.
They are really noy that bad, are they. Imagine what would happen if I had drawn them. Quite a few years hollywood mad a film about Mohammed with the actor Anthony Quinn playing MOhammed. The Muslims made such a stink about it that the producers succumed and agreed only to show the actor who was playing Mohammed from behind.

have you saw the messenger
movie for Anthony Quinn??

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Postby Danyet » Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:03 pm

ahmads wrote:have you saw the messenger
movie for Anthony Quinn??
I did not see the point in watching this movie since it could not portray Mohammed as he REALLY was.

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Postby Dixie » Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:27 pm

ahmads wrote:Dixie , if you know who is Mohammed correctly you will know what they mean


I don't know, I only know I love jokes and people who have a sense of humor, and I can't understand why the world is going mad about some caricatures.

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Postby ahmads » Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:25 am

danyet wrote:
ahmads wrote:have you saw the messenger
movie for Anthony Quinn??
I did not see the point in watching this movie since it could not portray Mohammed as he REALLY was.

the nam,e of the film is THe message not the messanger.

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Postby ahmads » Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:47 am

Dixie wrote:
ahmads wrote:Dixie , if you know who is Mohammed correctly you will know what they mean


I don't know, I only know I love jokes and people who have a sense of humor, and I can't understand why the world is going mad about some caricatures.

but certainly you don't like wars ..and blood,,
and you don't like if some one ironic of you to create people hate you and then we get a war((like the wars that were in the middle centuries))).
by a name of religion.

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Postby Dixie » Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:32 am

ahmads wrote:but certainly you don't like wars ..and blood,,
and you don't like if some one ironic of you to create people hate you and then we get a war((like the wars that were in the middle centuries))).
by a name of religion.


OK so who are those who start a war?

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Postby lambliver » Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:49 pm

Im very intrested in these topics which is related to Religion and current affair.

Starting with 11th september, UK's bombing and Baslan attacks, Madrid etc. These bombings attacks are not an islamic behaviour and those who do the attacks are not obeying islamic rules in battles and in what we call it "Jehad". Islam didn't ask to go and kill innocent people, bomb urban places and killing children and women.

The first victim of throat cutting and barbaric act mohamed son "Hussian bin ali ". terroist cut his head and put it on a spear " More information go and read about Karbala ". the first point is, those people who make bombers are not discipline and not obeying islam's jehad rules.

About the cartoon. I dont think that the freedom of press in Denmark should be international, to make fun of a symbol of a religion that has some group of people who are very extremit. This cartton may lead and pron people to risks.

I think that mohamed is a great prophet and mankind. If an artist want to depict he should respect his own character as an artist and other people symbol.

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Postby ahmads » Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:24 pm

Dixie wrote:
ahmads wrote:but certainly you don't like wars ..and blood,,
and you don't like if some one ironic of you to create people hate you and then we get a war((like the wars that were in the middle centuries))).
by a name of religion.


OK so who are those who start a war?

the people who wants to built hate between people

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Postby Dixie » Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:50 pm

ahmads wrote:the people who wants to built hate between people


And who are they?

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Re: Muhammed is the super star of western press/LINK TO CART

Postby Dixie » Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:55 pm

Monster wrote:Hello. Today we all are eyewitnesses of a new circuit of the old conflict between two civilizations western and eastern (Muslim). Arabs all over the world set on fire flags of western countries threaten taking hostages and breaking down western embassies. All this began due to printing some ridiculous pictures of the Muslim prophet in western press.



Where's the freedom of speech? Where's the freedom of expression? In the end we won't even be able to say hi to our neighbor.

That reaction is, in my opinion, the result of a lack of schooling and education: educated people will never behave that way. Killing people? Burning buildings? Why? Because of some caricatures? Because of a joke? And don't you even dare tell me that Mohammed this or Mohammed that, this is simply not right. Be clever, learn to laugh at yourselves and you'll have a happier life.

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Postby ahmads » Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:17 pm

Dixie wrote:That reaction is, in my opinion, the result of a lack of schooling and education: educated people will never behave that way. Killing people? Burning buildings? Why? Because of some caricatures? Because of a joke? And don't you even dare tell me that Mohammed this or Mohammed that, this is simply not right. Be clever, learn to laugh at yourselves and you'll have a happier life.

I want to ask you if someone
produces a film about the sematic what the world will do ?

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Postby Dixie » Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:32 pm

ahmads wrote:I want to ask you if someone
produces a film about the sematic what the world will do ?


Excuse my ignorance, I don't know what sematic is :roll: And, for me, as long as they don't attempt human rights, it's ok!


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