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who is guilty for unleashing terror

arab countries
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8%
islam and arab culture
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ben laden and other terrorists supported by arab countries
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Post by Monster » Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:36 am

Hello. Today we all are eyewitnesses of a new circuit of the old conflict between two civilizations western and eastern (Muslim). Arabs all over the world set on fire flags of western countries threaten taking hostages and breaking down western embassies. All this began due to printing some ridiculous pictures of the Muslim prophet in western press.

Who is guilty for this new round of the conflict? Is this a proper reaction of Arab countries to show their resentment?( if it is any base for a resentment at all ) Is this a reaction that belongs to civilized people or to barbarians which are the main threat of democracy ever? If it is the last, the question how we (the free world) should act how we can restrict such a behavior that may lead to worse consequences including death of innocent people. The last is that many Arab’s terrorist organizations want, waiting for every reason to continue bloodshed and by doing so warm up the world
to a new war!

Im sure that these religious fanatics must be stopped at all costs because if they won't be stopped now after will be too late. It is the same situation as was before WW2 when world closed eyes on what was going on in Nazi Germany and when it opened them it was too late.

here are all pictures, thanks to free press and internet :lol: :lol: :lol:
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004413.htm
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Post by Danyet » Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:41 am

A very interesting link! A good collection of artwork dating back many centuries can be found there also. I especially liked the medieval painting of our boy Mohammed getting tortured in hell by some demon looking thing.

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Post by Monster » Sat Feb 04, 2006 11:58 am

:lol:

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Post by gulf girl » Sat Feb 04, 2006 1:01 pm

inter here before writing any single word
http://www.englishclub.com/esl-forums/v ... hp?t=33159


Peace upon you
I'm a Muslim girl ( Thanks God )
What if the Muslims did the same thing with your monks !!
You will call it a terror !!
But Muslims never do same machinations because they respect all the religious
( but not believe )
It's a real resentment not just a show !!!
By the way ... you don't know what is the real Islam mean ... It's not what you are tought from your presidents (if it is any base to be a president at all !)

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Post by Arale » Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:59 pm

Everyone, this is really a serious problem. There are a lot of attacts in Denmark now because of these cartoon pictures. We can continue our discussion but please respect others' religion as well as respect your friends here. I hope there won't have a battle about this. Thanks! :roll:

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Post by Danyet » Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:22 pm

gulf girl wrote:inter here before writing any single word
http://www.englishclub.com/esl-forums/v ... hp?t=33159


Peace upon you

What if the Muslims did the same thing with your monks !!
You will call it a terror !!
But Muslims never do same machinations because they respect all the religious
( but not believe )
It's a real resentment not just a show !!!
By the way ... you don't know what is the real Islam mean ... It's not what you are tought from your presidents (if it is any base to be a president at all !)
I sometimes wonder how much Muslims know of the true nature of the world. Your post shows true ignorance of not only history but the world as it is today.

Muslims hoards have already debased monks in history and forced any Christians and Jews still living in lands conquered by the Islamic war lords to PAY A FEE for NOT converting to Islam.

Even today Musllims are BURNING Christian churches.

Does the world get all upset and mad about this as you Muslims are over a few cartoons..........NO THEY DON"T!
Most people recognize everyone's right to speak as they wish. Only Muslims try to force their wishes on the rest of the world. YOU ARE PROOF OF THAT by your rediculous posts about Mohammed.

Now the other thing that you are obviously not aware of is that we who are normal (IE not Muslims) are continually making fun of our own religious figures in cartoons, books and movies. We draw cartoons of our political leaders EVERY DAY. And we say slanderous things about the Queen or president down at the pub after work.

So, we are sure ae hell not going to stop drawing cartoons or saying things about Mohammed. Espesially since Mohammed is DEAD and can no longer make war on innocent people, thank God!!!!

Telling us that we should disrespect Mohammed is the same as telling us not to disrespect ADOLF HITLER.

So why don't you do yourself a favour and keep your religion to yourself. You should be embarrassed to even talk about it. Now go and have a ham sandwich.

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Post by Dixie » Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:44 pm

I just saw the caricataures and honestly I don't understand what the fuss is all about.

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Post by Danyet » Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:56 pm

Dixie wrote:I just saw the caricataures and honestly I don't understand what the fuss is all about.
They are really noy that bad, are they. Imagine what would happen if I had drawn them. Quite a few years hollywood mad a film about Mohammed with the actor Anthony Quinn playing MOhammed. The Muslims made such a stink about it that the producers succumed and agreed only to show the actor who was playing Mohammed from behind.

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Post by ahmads » Sun Feb 05, 2006 6:23 pm

Dixie wrote:I just saw the caricataures and honestly I don't understand what the fuss is all about.
Dixie , if you know who is Mohammed correctly you will know what they mean
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Post by ahmads » Sun Feb 05, 2006 6:43 pm

danyet wrote:
Dixie wrote:I just saw the caricataures and honestly I don't understand what the fuss is all about.
They are really noy that bad, are they. Imagine what would happen if I had drawn them. Quite a few years hollywood mad a film about Mohammed with the actor Anthony Quinn playing MOhammed. The Muslims made such a stink about it that the producers succumed and agreed only to show the actor who was playing Mohammed from behind.
have you saw the messenger
movie for Anthony Quinn??

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Post by Danyet » Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:03 pm

ahmads wrote: have you saw the messenger
movie for Anthony Quinn??
I did not see the point in watching this movie since it could not portray Mohammed as he REALLY was.

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Post by Dixie » Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:27 pm

ahmads wrote: Dixie , if you know who is Mohammed correctly you will know what they mean
I don't know, I only know I love jokes and people who have a sense of humor, and I can't understand why the world is going mad about some caricatures.

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Post by ahmads » Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:25 am

danyet wrote:
ahmads wrote: have you saw the messenger
movie for Anthony Quinn??
I did not see the point in watching this movie since it could not portray Mohammed as he REALLY was.
the nam,e of the film is THe message not the messanger.

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Post by ahmads » Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:47 am

Dixie wrote:
ahmads wrote: Dixie , if you know who is Mohammed correctly you will know what they mean
I don't know, I only know I love jokes and people who have a sense of humor, and I can't understand why the world is going mad about some caricatures.
but certainly you don't like wars ..and blood,,
and you don't like if some one ironic of you to create people hate you and then we get a war((like the wars that were in the middle centuries))).
by a name of religion.

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Post by Dixie » Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:32 am

ahmads wrote: but certainly you don't like wars ..and blood,,
and you don't like if some one ironic of you to create people hate you and then we get a war((like the wars that were in the middle centuries))).
by a name of religion.
OK so who are those who start a war?

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Post by lambliver » Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:49 pm

Im very intrested in these topics which is related to Religion and current affair.

Starting with 11th september, UK's bombing and Baslan attacks, Madrid etc. These bombings attacks are not an islamic behaviour and those who do the attacks are not obeying islamic rules in battles and in what we call it "Jehad". Islam didn't ask to go and kill innocent people, bomb urban places and killing children and women.

The first victim of throat cutting and barbaric act mohamed son "Hussian bin ali ". terroist cut his head and put it on a spear " More information go and read about Karbala ". the first point is, those people who make bombers are not discipline and not obeying islam's jehad rules.

About the cartoon. I dont think that the freedom of press in Denmark should be international, to make fun of a symbol of a religion that has some group of people who are very extremit. This cartton may lead and pron people to risks.

I think that mohamed is a great prophet and mankind. If an artist want to depict he should respect his own character as an artist and other people symbol.

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Post by ahmads » Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:24 pm

Dixie wrote:
ahmads wrote: but certainly you don't like wars ..and blood,,
and you don't like if some one ironic of you to create people hate you and then we get a war((like the wars that were in the middle centuries))).
by a name of religion.
OK so who are those who start a war?
the people who wants to built hate between people

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Post by Dixie » Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:50 pm

ahmads wrote: the people who wants to built hate between people
And who are they?

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Post by Dixie » Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:55 pm

Monster wrote:Hello. Today we all are eyewitnesses of a new circuit of the old conflict between two civilizations western and eastern (Muslim). Arabs all over the world set on fire flags of western countries threaten taking hostages and breaking down western embassies. All this began due to printing some ridiculous pictures of the Muslim prophet in western press.
Where's the freedom of speech? Where's the freedom of expression? In the end we won't even be able to say hi to our neighbor.

That reaction is, in my opinion, the result of a lack of schooling and education: educated people will never behave that way. Killing people? Burning buildings? Why? Because of some caricatures? Because of a joke? And don't you even dare tell me that Mohammed this or Mohammed that, this is simply not right. Be clever, learn to laugh at yourselves and you'll have a happier life.

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Post by ahmads » Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:17 pm

Dixie wrote: That reaction is, in my opinion, the result of a lack of schooling and education: educated people will never behave that way. Killing people? Burning buildings? Why? Because of some caricatures? Because of a joke? And don't you even dare tell me that Mohammed this or Mohammed that, this is simply not right. Be clever, learn to laugh at yourselves and you'll have a happier life.
I want to ask you if someone
produces a film about the sematic what the world will do ?

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ahmads wrote: I want to ask you if someone
produces a film about the sematic what the world will do ?
Excuse my ignorance, I don't know what sematic is :roll: And, for me, as long as they don't attempt human rights, it's ok!

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Post by ahmads » Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:36 pm

Dixie wrote:
ahmads wrote: the people who wants to built hate between people
And who are they?
the people who don't have open thinking,
regardless their countries .
and we can find a lack of schooling and education anywhere.
and we can't judge people by a group ...for example:
american army and english army burn the MOSQUEs.every day in iraq.
if we judge people by a group so we can say ,,all american are bad ,,and all british are bad too,,
and there are many nationalities:
like Spain army and and and kill people in iraq ..
and the people who have high education mustn't use press to MOCK people ..
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Dixie wrote:
ahmads wrote: I want to ask you if someone
produces a film about the sematic what the world will do ?
Excuse my ignorance, I don't know what sematic is :roll: And, for me, as long as they don't attempt human rights, it's ok!
I mean judaism

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Post by ahmads » Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:42 pm

and I want to tell you I don't like Burning buildings and and ,,and there are many people here are like me

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Post by ahmads » Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:50 pm

Dixie wrote:
Excuse my ignorance, I don't know what sematic is :roll: And, for me, as long as they don't attempt human rights, it's ok!
can you tell me what the meaning of human rights is for you(I don't mean you personally ,I mean in the europa )?
P.S:this is a debate.not fighting ,so take my word friendly,,ok

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ahmads wrote: can you tell me what the meaning of human rights is for you(I don't mean you personally ,I mean in the europa )?
P.S:this is a debate.not fighting ,so take my word friendly,,ok
Ahmads I don't think there's a need for me to explain to you what human rights are, you're smart enough.

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ahmads wrote:
Dixie wrote: That reaction is, in my opinion, the result of a lack of schooling and education: educated people will never behave that way. Killing people? Burning buildings? Why? Because of some caricatures? Because of a joke? And don't you even dare tell me that Mohammed this or Mohammed that, this is simply not right. Be clever, learn to laugh at yourselves and you'll have a happier life.
I want to ask you if someone
produces a film about the sematic what the world will do ?
Did you see Passion of the Christ? The Jews were pissed because they said it was not accurate, but that was all they did. Nothing more!

You guys have to sit back and think about your actions. The more dramatic things you do to get your voices heard about this disrespecting thing, the more people will be scared and have personal prejudice about your religion. Talk about it. Protest. But don't burn down buildings, flags, throw stones, etc.

You said he was sent from God, and you respect him or listen to what he said because it was from God. Then you should realize what you're doing now will be judge by others who think, "Is it really how God wanted these people to behave?" There's a saying in Buddhism said, "If you spit to the sky, your spit will fall back to your face!" It's the same for these caricatures about Muhammad. If you think it's not the truth, then the spit will fall back on them. Think about it!

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Post by lambliver » Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:25 am

Dixie wrote:
Monster wrote:Hello. Today we all are eyewitnesses of a new circuit of the old conflict between two civilizations western and eastern (Muslim). Arabs all over the world set on fire flags of western countries threaten taking hostages and breaking down western embassies. All this began due to printing some ridiculous pictures of the Muslim prophet in western press.
Where's the freedom of speech? Where's the freedom of expression? In the end we won't even be able to say hi to our neighbor.

That reaction is, in my opinion, the result of a lack of schooling and education: educated people will never behave that way. Killing people? Burning buildings? Why? Because of some caricatures? Because of a joke? And don't you even dare tell me that Mohammed this or Mohammed that, this is simply not right. Be clever, learn to laugh at yourselves and you'll have a happier life.
I dont think Freedom of speech is making a joke of a prophet.

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lambliver wrote:
I dont think Freedom of speech is making a joke of a prophet.
Is there an internation law says that we can't? :roll:

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Post by Dixie » Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:42 am

lambliver wrote:
I dont think Freedom of speech is making a joke of a prophet.
Who says that? So do you support those vandalic acts? Do you support murder to justify a joke? Are you insane?

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Post by ahmads » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:07 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
lambliver wrote:
I dont think Freedom of speech is making a joke of a prophet.
Is there an internation law says that we can't? :roll:
certainly no,,,
and this answer expresses the difference between humans and robots :idea:

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Post by ahmads » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:13 pm

Dixie wrote:
ahmads wrote: can you tell me what the meaning of human rights is for you(I don't mean you personally ,I mean in the europa )?
P.S:this is a debate.not fighting ,so take my word friendly,,ok
Ahmads I don't think there's a need for me to explain to you what human rights are, you're smart enough.
thank you for calling me smart ...
when I asked you,I meant ,,
the first think in the humans right is:
respect between people ...
the respect between people builds the love not hate
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Post by ahmads » Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:26 pm

LennyeTran wrote: Did you see Passion of the Christ? The Jews were pissed because they said it was not accurate, but that was all they did. Nothing more!

You guys have to sit back and think about your actions. The more dramatic things you do to get your voices heard about this disrespecting thing, the more people will be scared and have personal prejudice about your religion. Talk about it. Protest. But don't burn down buildings, flags, throw stones, etc.

You said he was sent from God, and you respect him or listen to what he said because it was from God. Then you should realize what you're doing now will be judge by others who think, "Is it really how God wanted these people to behave?" There's a saying in Buddhism said, "If you spit to the sky, your spit will fall back to your face!" It's the same for these caricatures about Muhammad. If you think it's not the truth, then the spit will fall back on them. Think about it!
if you want to solve a problem ,,you must disroot its fundament ,,
don't think about the reaction that has come because of the problem :idea: :idea:

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Dixie wrote:
lambliver wrote:
I dont think Freedom of speech is making a joke of a prophet.
Who says that? So do you support those vandalic acts? Do you support murder to justify a joke? Are you insane?
If some newspapers hadn't printed the pictures of Mohammed, there wouldn't have been any attacks. I don't support violated actions but I don't agree with inserting the pictures of Mohammed. It's this action which should be claimed as 'insane' or 'unlettered' because no one has right to draw the portrait of Mohammed, even to express your admiration or respects. That's what everyone should know about Islamic religion. Freedom of speech doesn't mean making others' religions' God a joke. If it's a joke, I have to admit that it's a rediculous joke. I feel sorry for your sense of humour in this point. If Islamics respect Jesus, why don't Christians respect Mohammed? That's just a normal knowledge to comprehend.
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LennyeTran wrote:
lambliver wrote:
I dont think Freedom of speech is making a joke of a prophet.
Is there an internation law says that we can't? :roll:
There are no laws of this but there is one natural law that is respect others' religion. That's an infantile thought to insert the pictures of the prophet. :evil:
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Post by Dixie » Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:06 pm

Remanu wrote:
If some newspapers hadn't printed the pictures of Mohammed, there wouldn't have been any attacks. I don't support violated actions but I don't agree with inserting the pictures of Mohammed. It's this action which should be claimed as 'insane' or 'unlettered' because no one has right to draw the portrait of Mohammed, even to express your admiration or respects. That's what everyone should know about Islamic religion. Freedom of speech doesn't mean making others' religions' God a joke. If it's a joke, I have to admit that it's a rediculous joke. I feel sorry for your sense of humour in this point. If Islamics respect Jesus, why don't Christians respect Mohammed? That's just a normal knowledge to comprehend.
OK then, if drawing caricatures is insane, can you please tell me the more appropriate adjective to designate the authors of its consequences and those who agree with that? You do not support violence but you justify those acts?

I've seen the caricatures and I didn't find them funny at all, but I didn't go and burned a building on order to protest. If everytime we see something we don't like or don't agree with we go and do criminal acts, the world will be turned to ashes.

I am so sick of this matter already. I don't like to discuss something which I find so basic. It's like trying to convince someone that the earth is round. Please thinka little. Do the effort, it won't cost you much and you will feel more mature and free.

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Post by Dixie » Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:07 pm

Remanu wrote: There are no laws of this but there is one natural law that is respect others' religion. That's an infantile thought to insert the pictures of the prophet. :evil:
You know what's infantile? Getting mad for some caricatures.

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Post by ahmads » Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:43 pm

what about the time that was chose for publication these caricatures???

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Post by Remanu » Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:52 pm

Dixie wrote: OK then, if drawing caricatures is insane, can you please tell me the more appropriate adjective to designate the authors of its consequences and those who agree with that? You do not support violence but you justify those acts?

I've seen the caricatures and I didn't find them funny at all, but I didn't go and burned a building on order to protest. If everytime we see something we don't like or don't agree with we go and do criminal acts, the world will be turned to ashes.

I am so sick of this matter already. I don't like to discuss something which I find so basic. It's like trying to convince someone that the earth is round. Please thinka little. Do the effort, it won't cost you much and you will feel more mature and free.
You didn't go and burned a building because you aren't a Muslim. You must know that Mohammed means a lot to all Muslims. He is the soul of everyone. And, well, I have to write again, according to Islamics' rule, no one has right to draw his portrait. So don't you think it's insane to insert those caricutures? If the author knew about this, he intended to disrespect Mohammed and Muslims. :twisted: Given that he didn't know it, he was foolish to post them everywhere. Because he doesn't understand anything about Islamic, so who allows him to do that? :evil: The action that 'do what you don't understand', I regard as an infantile one.

You can't burn this world into ashes because you don't like anything. But this problem affects a class of people - Islamics, not any single one. I admit that burning houses or killing people is wrong and not all Islamics do like that. People who are guilty will be punished. I'm still young but it doesn't mean I'm not mature so you don't have to worry about that. After all, the world should learn something from this great lesson. Religions are holy. One, even small, action which profanes any religion will cause such a disaster.
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lambliver wrote: I dont think Freedom of speech is making a joke of a prophet.
That is EXACTLY what freedom of speach is all about.

Remanu wrote: There are no laws of this but there is one natural law that is respect others' religion.
There is NO law to respect another's religion. Our law is; If I think that your religion is a joke, I AM ENTITLED TO SAY SO!!!

Remanu wrote:If Islamics respect Jesus, why don't Christians respect Mohammed?
Muslims have NEVER RESPECTED Jesus or Christians. Muslim Fathers and brothers STILL KILL THEIR OWN sisters and daughters for converting to Christianity. Muslims say that Jesus was not GOD!!! Where is your respect????

There is no wonder that there is so much trouble in the middle east if all the people there think like you. One can not even have an intelligent debate with you lot. And quite frankly I don't see the point anymore, anyway. Your true colors have been shown to the world.

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Post by ahmads » Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:22 pm

danyet wrote:
Remanu wrote:If Islamics respect Jesus, why don't Christians respect Mohammed?
Muslims have NEVER RESPECTED Jesus or Christians.
actually ,,if you want to be muslim ,,you must believe in Jesus and Moses and all prophets ,,
this is a rule to be muslim ..
so you are wrong .

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Post by Romantic » Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:32 pm

If Islamics respect Jesus, why don't Christians respect Mohammed?
Jesus and Mohammed are prophets, all human beings must respect them.

NO specific religion...

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Remanu wrote:
LennyeTran wrote:
lambliver wrote:
I dont think Freedom of speech is making a joke of a prophet.
Is there an internation law says that we can't? :roll:
There are no laws of this but there is one natural law that is respect others' religion. That's an infantile thought to insert the pictures of the prophet. :evil:
Do you wanna talk about respecting other religions? Let me show you something about respect...

http://www.rawa.org/statues.htm

Read this whole frigging link and tell me where the heck is the respect???? :x

"The leader of the Taliban Islamic militia in Afghanistan Tuesday shrugged off international condemnation of his order to destroy ancient Buddhist statues, saying "all we are breaking are stones."

Buddha statues are something to us, too. If those guys said what they did was just breaking stones, and they tried to deny the fact that they were not just breaking some stones; they were destroying one of the treasures of human beings. Then let me tell you, those pictures are just simply drawings. Just as much as a Buddha statues caved in the mountain that were destroyed.

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Post by Romantic » Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:41 pm

by the way danyet i know christians they do respect Mohammed and Muslims they do respect Jesus...

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Remanu wrote: People who are guilty will be punished.
This is what I mean by too much violence! If you believe in your religion, does it ever tell you people who are guilty will be punished by GOD on the Judgment Day? Not by you, me, or anyone else except GOD? I thought you believed in God and your Muhammed.... :roll:

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Remanu wrote: no one has right to draw the portrait of Mohammed, even to express your admiration or respects. That's what everyone should know about Islamic religion.
Excuse me, we are not Muslims. We do not have to obey your Islamic rules. We obey the international laws. And international laws say nothing about someone doesn't have a right to draw anything if he feels like it. Stop thinking about this whole world as if it's yours. If you think we're violating your laws, you're violating ours! It goes both ways, hun!

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ahmads wrote:
if you want to solve a problem ,,you must disroot its fundament ,,
don't think about the reaction that has come because of the problem :idea: :idea:
And don't you think if you had ignored those stupid drawings, nothing would have happened? Killing people, burning down buildings, throwing stones, chanting "hang the man who disrespects our religion"???? I am in rage. I've never been this mad. Well, I have. Once. It was the time when I was watching those people who got stoned for something they did that had nothing to do with the people who stoned them. :x

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Remanu wrote:
You didn't go and burned a building because you aren't a Muslim.
And every day I thank for this fact.
Remanu wrote: And, well, I have to write again, according to Islamics' rule, no one has right to draw his portrait.
And, well, I have to write again, according to the Internation laws, no one has a right to shut someone up for a picture he drew about someone else. God, prophets, Pope, whatever.... And how do you know they ain't laughing up there? My grandma makes jokes about monks in front of monks, and let me tell you, they laugh. Sometimes they even ask her to make jokes to lighten the moments. If you think your religion is perfect, why don't you try to learn something about the less perfect one to make it more perfect? Try learn to not overreacting about something meaningless! :roll: Go pray. If you go out burning down buildings and killing people, you would miss your praying time.

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LennyeTran wrote: Go pray. If you go out burning down buildings and killing people, you would miss your praying time.
so.. good job you know many things about me .... :!:

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Remanu wrote: You didn't go and burned a building because you aren't a Muslim.
This is the funniest thing that someone has told me for months :lol: :lol: So if I was a muslim, I would have burnt down a building? I didn't know I had so much violence inside :shock:

All the things I was going to say to you have been already said by Lennye, so I take her words as mine too. I was going to say exactly the same: maybe your laws forbid you to make any drawings of Mohammed but those are not MY laws. I will do whatever I feel like to do; I, fortunately, live in a free world, not like you. Honestly I think you've been all brainwashed since you were born. I am sorry to put it that way but that's what I think.

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Post by Danyet » Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:17 pm

ahmads wrote:
danyet wrote:
Remanu wrote:If Islamics respect Jesus, why don't Christians respect Mohammed?
Muslims have NEVER RESPECTED Jesus or Christians.
actually ,,if you want to be muslim ,,you must believe in Jesus and Moses and all prophets ,,
this is a rule to be muslim ..
so you are wrong .
Then prove me wrong and proclaim that Jesus is God not just a prophet in your next post!!

If Muslims can say Jesus is just a prophet then anyone can say Mohammed was just a warlord and Allah a figment of his imagination.

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Post by ahmads » Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:05 pm

there is a book ,,I don't remember its name ..
american book for the greatest 100 men in the history ..
the best one of them is Mohamed prophet ,
the book says that prophet mohamed changed all history positively ....

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Dixie wrote:
lambliver wrote:
I dont think Freedom of speech is making a joke of a prophet.
Who says that? So do you support those vandalic acts? Do you support murder to justify a joke? Are you insane?

Im very intrested in these topics which is related to Religion and current affair.

Starting with 11th september, UK's bombing and Baslan attacks, Madrid etc. These bombings attacks are not an islamic behaviour and those who do the attacks are not obeying islamic rules in battles and in what we call it "Jehad". Islam didn't ask to go and kill innocent people, bomb urban places and killing children and women.

The first victim of throat cutting and barbaric act mohamed son "Hussian bin ali ". terroist cut his head and put it on a spear " More information go and read about Karbala ". the first point is, those people who make bombers are not discipline and not obeying islam's jehad rules.

About the cartoon. I dont think that the freedom of press in Denmark should be international, to make fun of a symbol of a religion that has some group of people who are very extremit. This cartton may lead and pron people to risks.

I think that mohamed is a great prophet and mankind. If an artist want to depict he should respect his own character as an artist and other people symbol

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Post by Dixie » Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:15 pm

lambliver wrote: About the cartoon. I dont think that the freedom of press in Denmark should be international, to make fun of a symbol of a religion that has some group of people who are very extremit. This cartton may lead and pron people to risks.
Finally someone admits they are against freedom of expression.

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lambliver wrote:

Im very intrested in these topics which is related to Religion and current affair.

Starting with 11th september, UK's bombing and Baslan attacks, Madrid etc. These bombings attacks are not an islamic behaviour and those who do the attacks are not obeying islamic rules in battles and in what we call it "Jehad". Islam didn't ask to go and kill innocent people, bomb urban places and killing children and women.

The first victim of throat cutting and barbaric act mohamed son "Hussian bin ali ". terroist cut his head and put it on a spear " More information go and read about Karbala ". the first point is, those people who make bombers are not discipline and not obeying islam's jehad rules.

About the cartoon. I dont think that the freedom of press in Denmark should be international, to make fun of a symbol of a religion that has some group of people who are very extremit. This cartton may lead and pron people to risks.

I think that mohamed is a great prophet and mankind. If an artist want to depict he should respect his own character as an artist and other people symbol
Why are you repeating your posts? What is your point, dude?

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Post by mr_Love » Wed Feb 08, 2006 8:19 am

This is my Point of view

"i belive there is only one god who is Allah

and i belive that Mohammed is his massanger."

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mr_Love wrote:This is my Point of view

"i belive there is only one god who is Allah

and i belive that Mohammed is his massanger."
OK that's what you are taught in Islam and I think it's great, but it doesn't have anything to do with the last past events.

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Post by mr_Love » Wed Feb 08, 2006 12:44 pm

you know,,,

the last past events maks muslims more muslims,,,

i mean it maked their islam more and more stronger,,

dont you see how much they love Mohammed,,,

he is Died!! but we still love him ,, he is in our hearts,,,

we love him more than any one in the world...

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danyet wrote:There is NO law to respect another's religion. Our law is; If I think that your religion is a joke, I AM ENTITLED TO SAY SO!!!
It's the law of the jungle. That's the MAIN REASON has caused attacks of Muslims in all over the world recently. So, if you don't like anyone, you ARE ENTTTLED to kill him?

Remanu wrote:Muslims have NEVER RESPECTED Jesus or Christians. Muslim Fathers and brothers STILL KILL THEIR OWN sisters and daughters for converting to Christianity. Muslims say that Jesus was not GOD!!! Where is your respect????

The truth sometimes is distorted.
danyet wrote:There is no wonder that there is so much trouble in the middle east if all the people there think like you. One can not even have an intelligent debate with you lot. And quite frankly I don't see the point anymore, anyway. Your true colors have been shown to the world.
I don't want to talk about this because I'm just afraid bad words and disrespects may be shown here. If you find it's not an INTELLIGENT debate, well, feel free to get it off. I don't force you to discuss with me. I don't come here to argue, I come here to show my opinions and protect Islamics. I always say people who are guilty will be punished.
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LennyeTran wrote:Excuse me, we are not Muslims. We do not have to obey your Islamic rules. We obey the international laws. And international laws say nothing about someone doesn't have a right to draw anything if he feels like it. Stop thinking about this whole world as if it's yours. If you think we're violating your laws, you're violating ours! It goes both ways, hun!
Dixie wrote: I was going to say exactly the same: maybe your laws forbid you to make any drawings of Mohammed but those are not MY laws. I will do whatever I feel like to do; I, fortunately, live in a free world, not like you.
That's a completely wrong opinion. Sorry but I have to say that. You are non-Muslim, so you have right to profane Muslims' God? Perhaps, international laws don't say about that but each country has its own laws, which all people, even foreigners, must obey. I don't think of the whole world as my own world. We 'violate' your laws of freedom of speech? Please ask why??? Just read what you wrote again. Doesn't it mean you don't need to learn anything about other countries? So where is what called international cultural exchanges in your post? You don't need to understand the laws and rules of others, so you can do anything you want, doesn't it mean there are no respects between human and human in your post?
Dixie wrote:Honestly I think you've been all brainwashed since you were born. I am sorry to put it that way but that's what I think.
Once again, I don't want to talk about this.
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LennyeTran wrote:And don't you think if you had ignored those stupid drawings, nothing would have happened? Killing people, burning down buildings, throwing stones, chanting "hang the man who disrespects our religion"???? I am in rage. I've never been this mad. Well, I have. Once. It was the time when I was watching those people who got stoned for something they did that had nothing to do with the people who stoned them. :x
If we could ignore this, so why wouldn't other people ignore similar things? The Islamics in Denmark were waiting for just an appology from the press inserting the bad portraits of Mohammed, but they wouldn't do that. That has caused a wave of demonstration in all over the world. The editor just said it was a joke, like some people here said. If he had officially apologised instead, whether the demonstration would have spreaded? However, everything happened. That's what Islamics never wanted, that press never wanted, so did the whole world. I also don't want to have a critical debate in this forum because of it. Isn't it better to find out some real solutions?
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ahmads wrote:there is a book ,,I don't remember its name ..
american book for the greatest 100 men in the history ..
the best one of them is Mohamed prophet ,
the book says that prophet mohamed changed all history positively ....
the name of the american writer is Michel Hart but i don't know the name of the book in english bec i have the arabic version translated by anis mansour but if i translate the title by myself it will be( the eternal persons are hundred, the greatest is Mohammed the messanger of God, peace be upon him.

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mr_Love wrote:you know,,,

the last past events maks muslims more muslims,,,

i mean it maked their islam more and more stronger,,

dont you see how much they love Mohammed,,,

he is Died!! but we still love him ,, he is in our hearts,,,

we love him more than any one in the world...
You should be proud of what you were taught. You should be proud of your God. No religions teach anything wrong. But some others always want to distort the truth. Love our God as you ever loved him then!
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LennyeTran wrote:
Remanu wrote: People who are guilty will be punished.
This is what I mean by too much violence! If you believe in your religion, does it ever tell you people who are guilty will be punished by GOD on the Judgment Day? Not by you, me, or anyone else except GOD? I thought you believed in God and your Muhammed.... :roll:
God teaches you to do right. If you do wrong, laws will punish you. Laws here include court of society and court of your own soul. Yes, I do believe in my God. Bhagwan tumari raksa kare! Cok jasa! God please bless me in my tomorrow exam! Oh, I hate chemistry!
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Remanu wrote: Once again, I don't want to talk about this.
Then don't. I don't wanna try to convince you of something I find so basic, really. The day muslims will learn to respect human rights, the world will improve a lot. Meanwhile, you will keep on living in prehistoric times.

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Dixie wrote:
Remanu wrote: Once again, I don't want to talk about this.
Then don't. I don't wanna try to convince you of something I find so basic, really. The day muslims will learn to respect human rights, the world will improve a lot. Meanwhile, you will keep on living in prehistoric times.
What do you want then? Wanna a debate without any respects? I've been trying to respect you but it seems you don't? Prehistoric time? I can't forget these disrespected words. D*mn my exam!
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Post by Dixie » Wed Feb 08, 2006 3:27 pm

Remanu wrote:
What do you want then? Wanna a debate without any respects? I've been trying to respect you but it seems you don't? Prehistoric time? I can't forget these disrespected words. D*mn my exam!
Why don't you try to open your eyes and mind to the world? Sorry if you thought I was misrespecting you. Believe me, that was not my intention. It just freaks me out when I see people defending the criminals that are killing people, burning down buildings and so on, just because of some caricatures. I just can't comprehend that.

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Remanu wrote: That's a completely wrong opinion. Sorry but I have to say that. You are non-Muslim, so you have right to profane Muslims' God? Perhaps, international laws don't say about that but each country has its own laws, which all people, even foreigners, must obey. I don't think of the whole world as my own world. We 'violate' your laws of freedom of speech? Please ask why??? Just read what you wrote again. Doesn't it mean you don't need to learn anything about other countries? So where is what called international cultural exchanges in your post? You don't need to understand the laws and rules of others, so you can do anything you want, doesn't it mean there are no respects between human and human in your post?
And what kinda law and culture are those people living in that they think they can throw stones, burning down buildings, KILL people for a couple of pictures?? To you people he's something; to non-Muslim people he's nothing. For instance, to me he's nothing. However, it doesn't mean I will laugh at those pictures or think they're funny. On the other hand, I don't approve your actions.

And if you think you've learned and respected other cultures, then bring back the Buddha statues that you guys destroyed. If you could bring them back, then I will be on your side protesting about those pictures. Otherwise, you are just bunch of hypocrites to me. No hypocrite can come to me and talk about something they want when they've done those things to others!

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Remanu wrote:
God teaches you to do right. If you do wrong, laws will punish you. Laws here include court of society and court of your own soul. Yes, I do believe in my God. Bhagwan tumari raksa kare! Cok jasa! God please bless me in my tomorrow exam! Oh, I hate chemistry!
And God will punish people with those laws, not you, me, or those people!

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Remanu wrote:
If we could ignore this, so why wouldn't other people ignore similar things?
Every culture has an ~. If you replies to an ~, it's like throwing a stone to an endless sea. Do you understand this ?
Remanu wrote:The Islamics in Denmark were waiting for just an appology from the press inserting the bad portraits of Mohammed, but they wouldn't do that.
They apologized, but they won't step back publishing those pictures if this is what you meant!
Remanu wrote: Isn't it better to find out some real solutions?
I thought you guys did. You burnt down buildings, threw stones, killed people, etc. Those weren't your solutions to this problem? What are they then?

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LennyeTran wrote:
lambliver wrote:

Im very intrested in these topics which is related to Religion and current affair.

Starting with 11th september, UK's bombing and Baslan attacks, Madrid etc. These bombings attacks are not an islamic behaviour and those who do the attacks are not obeying islamic rules in battles and in what we call it "Jehad". Islam didn't ask to go and kill innocent people, bomb urban places and killing children and women.

The first victim of throat cutting and barbaric act mohamed son "Hussian bin ali ". terroist cut his head and put it on a spear " More information go and read about Karbala ". the first point is, those people who make bombers are not discipline and not obeying islam's jehad rules.

About the cartoon. I dont think that the freedom of press in Denmark should be international, to make fun of a symbol of a religion that has some group of people who are very extremit. This cartton may lead and pron people to risks.

I think that mohamed is a great prophet and mankind. If an artist want to depict he should respect his own character as an artist and other people symbol
Why are you repeating your posts? What is your point, dude?
My point is to let you know that Mohamed and his household are the first people who were victims of terroist. Hussain peace be upon him " Son of Mohamed's PBUH daughter ", an army that call them self muslim " As Binladen and Abo mosaab " cut Hussain's head and put it on a spear.

I want you to read history a little bet more .

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LennyeTran wrote:And what kinda law and culture are those people living in that they think they can throw stones, burning down buildings, KILL people for a couple of pictures?? To you people he's something; to non-Muslim people he's nothing. For instance, to me he's nothing. However, it doesn't mean I will laugh at those pictures or think they're funny. On the other hand, I don't approve your actions.

And if you think you've learned and respected other cultures, then bring back the Buddha statues that you guys destroyed. If you could bring them back, then I will be on your side protesting about those pictures. Otherwise, you are just bunch of hypocrites to me. No hypocrite can come to me and talk about something they want when they've done those things to others!
See, you believe in Buddhism and you protect your religion. What if I say 'those Buddha statues mean nothing to me?' Everything has its evil inside. L*L!
However, I think you seem rather kindda see one individual's action, then impose on all others. I find you are seeking for a battle here. So non-sense for me to continue. The end of the thread for me!
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See, you believe in Buddhism and you protect your religion. What if I say 'those Buddha statues mean nothing to me?' Everything has its evil inside. L*L!
What did we Buddhists do when you Muslims destroyed the statue? NOTHING, I tell ya. The world stepped in trying to save it because it was the world's heritage. However, it was being destroyed anyway. We did not protest, kill anyone, throw stones at people, burn down the buildings. No, we did not do any of these things. We felt pity for other people's ignorance.

Religion is not just all about how you worship someone. It's about how you follow the teaching to be in a better place. We, Buddhists, don't tight ourselves to the images of the Buddhas such as statues or pictures. It's the teaching that would lead us to nirvana, not those pictures or statues.

You can say Buddhism is nothing to you, and I don't give a damn about it. It's your choice to say how meaningful it is to you. I just wanted to remind you that if you have people don't respect other people's religion, then use your mind to think of other human beings and stop giving excuses to the hypocrites.

Remanu wrote:However, I think you seem rather kindda see one individual's action, then impose on all others. I find you are seeking for a battle here. So non-sense for me to continue. The end of the thread for me!
Yes, I'm seeking for a fight here. I will fight with people who give excuses to explain why people would kill others because of some pictures. It's inhumane!

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Post by MissLT » Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:04 am

Remanu wrote:
danyet wrote:There is NO law to respect another's religion. Our law is; If I think that your religion is a joke, I AM ENTITLED TO SAY SO!!!
It's the law of the jungle. That's the MAIN REASON has caused attacks of Muslims in all over the world recently. So, if you don't like anyone, you ARE ENTTTLED to kill him?
Your question goes back to you, too. So, if you don't like some stupid pictures, you ARE ENTITILED to kill people because of those pictures?

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Post by ahmads » Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:59 am

Dixie wrote:
Remanu wrote: Once again, I don't want to talk about this.
Then don't. I don't wanna try to convince you of something I find so basic, really. The day muslims will learn to respect human rights, the world will improve a lot. Meanwhile, you will keep on living in prehistoric times.
prehistoric times that you are talking ,,it is driving you to be in 2006,,
your computer is built by equation that was invented by muslim .
your glasses is invented by muslim.even zero number was invented by muslim . even the silk that you wear ,,the first time was being in europe ,muslims brought it,, ((have you seen the drawing in the old building in Roma,did you see the women on it ,,,what they are wearing,,on their clothes you will see arabic sentences))
even the soap that you usu to clean your self was invented by muslim..
even the medicine ....
but there were people burned all our science,and there were people who destroyed us ,and and it continue although we at the worst days from our islam civilization
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Post by ahmads » Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:48 am

danyet wrote:
If Muslims can say Jesus is just a prophet then anyone can say Mohammed was just a warlord and Allah a figment of his imagination.
Danyet this is not our subject that we are talking about .

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Post by ahmads » Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:01 am

Dixie wrote:
Finally someone admits they are against freedom of expression.
yes ,,dixie ....I am the first one who want freedom of speech
that it helps people..
and the newspaper that we are talking about ,,
before a while rejected to publish the drawing that were ironic of Jesus because the newspaper didn't want to wound the christian,(nevertheless muslims will object at that)..
this is the freedom of speech,,,
P.S :I don't say my words to justify burning the building

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Post by ahmads » Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:19 am

meny wrote:
ahmads wrote:there is a book ,,I don't remember its name ..
american book for the greatest 100 men in the history ..
the best one of them is Mohamed prophet ,
the book says that prophet mohamed changed all history positively ....
the name of the american writer is Michel Hart but i don't know the name of the book in english bec i have the arabic version translated by anis mansour but if i translate the title by myself it will be( the eternal persons are hundred, the greatest is Mohammed the messanger of God, peace be upon him.
THE NAME OF THE BOOK IS:
The 100: The Most Influential Persons in History

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Post by Dixie » Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:05 am

ahmads wrote:
prehistoric times that you are talking ,,it is driving you to be in 2006,,
your computer is built by equation that was invented by muslim .
your glasses is invented by muslim.even zero number was invented by muslim . even the silk that you wear ,,the first time was being in europe ,muslims brought it,, ((have you seen the drawing in the old building in Roma,did you see the women on it ,,,what they are wearing,,on their clothes you will see arabic sentences))
even the soap that you clean your self was invented by muslim..
even the medicine ....
but there were people burned all our science,and there were people who destroyed us ,and and it continue although we at the worst days from our islam civilization
You completely changed the subject. I am not talking about inventions. I am talking about behavior and ways of thinking.

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Post by ahmads » Thu Feb 09, 2006 6:41 pm

Dixie wrote:
You completely changed the subject. I am not talking about inventions. I am talking about behavior and ways of thinking.
no I still in the same subject ,,,
I meant that wrong things that is done since a few days(if it about burning building or mock of another people) indicates to prehistoric ,, ,,but each of them has an appearance.
and if a side has made something wrong that doesn't mean that the another side is right

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Post by Dixie » Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:00 pm

ahmads wrote: no I still in the same subject ,,,
I meant that wrong things that is done since a few days(if it about burning building or mock of another people) indicates to prehistoric ,, ,,but each of them has an appearance.
It's not a few days' thing, and you know that.
ahmads wrote: and if a side has made something wrong that doesn't mean that the another side is right
Oh, a side burns buildings, kills people, etc. but that doesn't mean they are wrong, no.

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Post by ahmads » Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:18 pm

Dixie wrote:
ahmads wrote: and if a side has made something wrong that doesn't mean that the another side is right
Oh, a side burns buildings, kills people, etc. but that doesn't mean they are wrong, no.
Dixie ,I didn't mean that the burning build is right ...
I mean it is wrong ,and mock of people's beliefs is wrong too.
and If you heard what the danish queen said you will believe me

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Post by Dixie » Thu Feb 09, 2006 8:54 pm

ahmads wrote:
and If you heard what the danish queen said you will believe me
I don't care what the queen says, I will never, NEVER, accept those facts.

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Post by Unknownsu » Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:10 pm

The way I see it, muslims have always been condemned as terrorists due to Osama bin Ladin. For years, they wanted the world to realize that Osama does not represent their muslim religion.

Now, muslim protestors are burning Danish embassies/flags and boycotting Denmark. Now my question is, what does the Danish government have to do with a newspaper it has no control over? I smell hypocrisy.

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Post by mr_Love » Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:36 am

Remanu wrote:
mr_Love wrote:you know,,,

the last past events maks muslims more muslims,,,

i mean it maked their islam more and more stronger,,

dont you see how much they love Mohammed,,,

he is Died!! but we still love him ,, he is in our hearts,,,

we love him more than any one in the world...
You should be proud of what you were taught. You should be proud of your God. No religions teach anything wrong. But some others always want to distort the truth. Love our God as you ever loved him then!

Sorry ..

i dont get ur point...
?????? :?: :?: :roll:

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Now, muslim protestors are burning Danish embassies/flags and boycotting Denmark. Now my question is, what does the Danish government have to do with a newspaper it has no control over?
Not just Danish embassies, Susu. They've done it to other embassies as well. And they're blaming this whole thing on America. They said America is behind this whole global crisis :roll: .
Unknownsu wrote: I smell hypocrisy.
Exactly!

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Post by ahmads » Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:43 pm

I think we are running in the same circuit

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LennyeTran wrote:
Unknownsu wrote:
Now, muslim protestors are burning Danish embassies/flags and boycotting Denmark. Now my question is, what does the Danish government have to do with a newspaper it has no control over?
Not just Danish embassies, Susu. They've done it to other embassies as well. And they're blaming this whole thing on America. They said America is behind this whole global crisis :roll: .
Unknownsu wrote: I smell hypocrisy.
Exactly!
Yeah, anything happened around the world, you blame on US then you’re all set baby. :twisted:

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vince90 wrote:
Yeah, anything happened around the world, you blame on US then you’re all set baby. :twisted:
It's easier to blame someone than to look at the problem itself, I guess. If you can't blame the starter, blame the one who sits next to him. Although the US is thousands miles away from the starter and didn't start this whole thing, obviously to those people she belongs to the same group :roll: :roll: :roll: .

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Unknownsu wrote: I smell hypocrisy.
What about the hypocrisy of WEStERn.

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ahmads wrote:
Unknownsu wrote: I smell hypocrisy.
What about the hypocrisy of WEStERn.
Such as????

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LennyeTran wrote:
ahmads wrote:
Unknownsu wrote: I smell hypocrisy.
What about the hypocrisy of WEStERn.
Such as????
ok..count by your fingers:
1- western wants to end the nuclear program:
israel has one of the bigest nuclear program in the world(for weapon),but Israel is friend .
Iran has nuclear program but Iran mustn't has the technology.
2- western wants to spread democracy ,www good job we want it too:
the democracy means,but a government over people suffer of occupation to steal their money to buy
luxury cars and let them without food ,
and trade by their country ,and when people choose a government to get their rights, western says ::this government is terrorist.( although Israel uses F16 to kill people on the streets and inside empelance )
3- western talks about human rights ,good too:
a western country ((I won't mention its name)) has gave an african country a food to help poor people ,,good ,,
in the end what?this food is dog's food ,not to human's consuming.
4- all human that are defend for freedom are beasts:
-palestinian are beasts because they want freedom in their own land .
-vietnamese were beasts too ,because they were killing the american soldiers to get their freedom .
-Irish too ,and at the moment they make films to tell us that irish is beasts.
and if you want more I'm ready

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Post by Arale » Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:27 pm

Please start another thread about Western countries. You've been off topic. This thread will be locked up here.

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