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GAY MARRIAGE

Post by kathymimi » Sat Mar 25, 2006 7:34 am

Delegates of Congress in China proposed approving gay marriage in China and, this proposal raised heated discussions among the delegates, and people of the country.

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Post by FFFF » Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:05 am

he is the bigest human devil

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Post by Tora » Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:09 am

and what's common between him and gay marriage??? i guess you are not quite close to the post that kathymimi has added... :roll: I don't understand...

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Post by FFFF » Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:14 am

Tora wrote:and what's common between him and gay marriage??? i guess you are not quite close to the post that kathymimi has added... :roll: I don't understand...
the chicken Bush the fakin first one who has begun this thing

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Post by Tora » Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:19 am

FFFF wrote:
Tora wrote:and what's common between him and gay marriage??? i guess you are not quite close to the post that kathymimi has added... :roll: I don't understand...
the chicken Bush the fakin first one begun this thing
oh really?! :roll:
i guess there is something in the history of gay/lesbian relationship that is worth studying... the roots of their realtionship go back to... george bush! sounds weird! :lol: :lol: come on!
FFFF, do you really think so?..

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Post by FFFF » Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:29 am

Tora wrote:
FFFF wrote:
Tora wrote:and what's common between him and gay marriage??? i guess you are not quite close to the post that kathymimi has added... :roll: I don't understand...
the chicken Bush the fakin first one begun this thing
oh really?! :roll:
i guess there is something in the history of gay/lesbian relationship that is worth studying... the roots of their realtionship go back to... george bush! sounds weird! :lol: :lol: come on!
FFFF, do you really think so?..
no
Do you think I'm crazy? I know about history .
But there is some countries want to Take this thing off and
Mr.monkey wants to spread this thing again by media

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Post by Tora » Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:35 am

I never think about someone is crazy! (as far as i am the one :lol:) i did not want to say anything offensive! :!:

Just please,firstly, i think it's impolite to speak in a rude manner about the head of the country! Secondly, people are different and something that doesn't coincides with your seeing the world may be just perfect to someone else! if you are not involved so please don't say nasty things about other peope feelings! It's your choise! that's the real human right!
Mr. Monkey? noooo... :?:

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Post by FFFF » Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:42 am

Tora wrote:I never think about someone is crazy! (as far as i am the one :lol:) i did not want to say anything offensive! :!:

Just please,firstly, i think it's impolite to speak in a rude manner about the head of the country! Secondly, people are different and something that doesn't coincides with your seeing the world may be just perfect to someone else! if you are not involved so please don't say nasty things about other peope feelings! It's your choise! that's the real human right!
Mr. Monkey? noooo... :?:
Hey come on . I'm not rude.
and what will you do if some gays try to kiss you?
I've faced this situation 3 times ,this is disgusting

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Post by Tora » Sat Mar 25, 2006 8:52 am

FFFF wrote:
Tora wrote:I never think about someone is crazy! (as far as i am the one :lol:) i did not want to say anything offensive! :!:

Just please,firstly, i think it's impolite to speak in a rude manner about the head of the country! Secondly, people are different and something that doesn't coincides with your seeing the world may be just perfect to someone else! if you are not involved so please don't say nasty things about other peope feelings! It's your choise! that's the real human right!
Mr. Monkey? noooo... :?:
Hey come on . I'm not rude.
and what will you do if some gays try to kiss you?
I've faced this situation 3 times ,this is disgusting
Oh my gosh! :lol: :? and what if someone really drunk (but the opposite sex with you) tries to kiss you and urge for something even harder than you say it's OK? it depends on the person i'm sure the majority of gay/lesbian do not try to do it on the streets.. in the store... in elevator i don't know... there is no difference between common people and them not even the way they love each other! love is beyond nationality religion an sex! <i'm too far :oops: >
If someone tries to kiss you without your inclination it odesn't matter if he is he or she! :roll:

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Re: GAY MARRIAGE

Post by Dixie » Sat Mar 25, 2006 11:00 am

kathymimi wrote:Delegates of Congress in China proposed approving gay marriage in China and, this proposal raised heated discussions among the delegates, and people of the country.
They are so conservative in China, that I highly doubt that they will aprove that.

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Post by Dixie » Sat Mar 25, 2006 11:01 am

FFFF wrote: and what will you do if some gays try to kiss you?
I've faced this situation 3 times ,this is disgusting
Are you saying that gays are disgusting?

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Post by Danyet » Sun Mar 26, 2006 3:22 am

FFFF wrote: and what will you do if some gays try to kiss you?
I've faced this situation 3 times ,this is disgusting
[/quote]Just make sure that he shaves first, you don't want to get razor burn!

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Post by kathymimi » Sun Mar 26, 2006 6:07 am

someone can not accept love between two in same sex, but it's really nothing different from the love between a man and a woman, in my opinion, it's just something that should be fair to everyone.

nothing's strange in the world nowadays. we usually call someone gay because he loves man. but what're the differences between us and those guys? it's all the same. they deserve the respect like all of us others!

supposed that, if we really love someone, we usually love the all of our lovers, and who care the sex of them? we? of course not. so we are the same as gays and lesbians when facing our lovers.

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Post by Rui » Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:22 am

well, i was thinking about an answer but now that i've read what our friend Tora had written i guess there's no need of that, of course i agree with you 100%, and besides that FFFF, think about it, more gays its equal to more nice womens alone wanting for the sex of strong boy 8) :lol:

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Post by zaman » Sun Apr 02, 2006 3:25 pm

in my opinion what did you said it so wrong becuse you know that in all religion in this world that is forbbiden how you can said it is normal like if man love woman or reverse that is realy redicoulse
what do you think if your mother do that with another woman .
what is your opinion about that?

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Post by Tora » Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:13 pm

zaman wrote:in my opinion what did you said it so wrong becuse you know that in all religion in this world that is forbbiden how you can said it is normal like if man love woman or reverse that is realy redicoulse
what do you think if your mother do that with another woman .
what is your opinion about that?
Hello!
you consider it from the religious point of view, but every faith leads to some ristrictions which narrow people's judgement. please, no religious feelings are hurt, but gay marriage is officially allowed by some governments. and the catholic church still hasn't determined upon that issue yet. Also some people do not believe in god...
and about mothers on the whole (please do not speak about someone's particular mother), the thread is about adoption children by one-sex families.. so the baby raised in this kind of family will never try to find differences in other people, you know, race, color, religion and choise of lover, that's also not so bad...

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Post by Tora » Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:14 pm

Rui wrote:well, i was thinking about an answer but now that i've read what our friend Tora had written i guess there's no need of that, of course i agree with you 100%, and besides that FFFF, think about it, more gays its equal to more nice womens alone wanting for the sex of strong boy 8) :lol:
ohhh... 8) :lol: :wink:

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Post by Danyet » Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:27 pm

If we allow fags to marry.......where do we draw the line? AT some point there must be a cutoff on what we allow. By your reasoning we will have to allow poligamy and child brides too!!!!!!!!!

It is our duty to set up the standards by which we live for the protection of society and we have already chosen 1000's of years ago in the time of cavemen.

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Post by Tora » Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:40 pm

danyet wrote:If we allow fags to marry.......where do we draw the line? AT some point there must be a cutoff on what we allow. By your reasoning we will have to allow poligamy and child brides too!!!!!!!!!

It is our duty to set up the standards by which we live for the protection of society and we have already chosen 1000's of years ago in the time of cavemen.
I agree there MUST be a line, just like adopting children by straight married couples! The spouses' sex will never determine their attitude to a child! Like beaten to death and tormented small russian children in us and elsewhere. they did seem to be Ok, but...
adopting by gay-married couples is a chance for a baby to find a home and loving parents, they've suffered a lot and deserve it.

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Post by MissLT » Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:55 am

danyet wrote:If we allow fags to marry.......where do we draw the line? AT some point there must be a cutoff on what we allow. By your reasoning we will have to allow poligamy and child brides too!!!!!!!!!

It is our duty to set up the standards by which we live for the protection of society and we have already chosen 1000's of years ago in the time of cavemen.
You are such a Republican.

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Post by Danyet » Mon Apr 03, 2006 6:48 am

Comming soon! POLYGAMY..........does anyone want to make a bet!!!

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Post by MissLT » Mon Apr 03, 2006 6:51 am

danyet wrote:Comming soon! POLYGAMY..........does anyone want to make a bet!!!
Well, almost half of the world have been praticing it, so what's new? Oh yeah, something is... it's aint gonna happen in the States as long as Republicans are still in charge. :evil:

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Post by zaman » Mon Apr 03, 2006 3:09 pm

but you know that i have do not point to any one here about his or her mother because i respect all in this forum , when i give this proverb i am just want to ask between this sentence .
and another thing i want to talk about in this subject all of us know the goals from marriage just for forming family not for another reason . and ALLAh for that creat man and woman.

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Post by MissLT » Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:50 pm

zaman wrote: and another thing i want to talk about in this subject all of us know the goals from marriage just for forming family not for another reason . and ALLAh for that creat man and woman.
What makes you so sure about this? :roll:

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Post by Tora » Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:02 pm

forming familes sounds weird, i thought it's a free - will decision...
Zaman, you sound like my teacher, who says that the only human goal in life is forming a family and making children... forming family and making children...

I find it so odd and too communist :?
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Post by Tora » Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:06 pm

danyet wrote:Comming soon! POLYGAMY..........does anyone want to make a bet!!!
Why polygamy?..

I suppose if the humanity determines that it doesn't need one-sax relationship it will disappear really soon, but if there is pressing by government church and some orthodox communities, the resistance will only increase.

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Post by Cypress » Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:54 am

Personally I don’t understand how could it be possible for a man to love another man or for a woman to love another woman. But I do believe that every person has a right to choose for himself/herself whom to love and what kind of lifestyle to have. And I respect that right. And if it is a sin, I know that it is not my sin. I have lots of own sins I should worry about. So what right do I have to judge others or decide for others whom to marry?

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Post by zaman » Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:17 pm

What makes you so sure about this?

becuase my religion said that in AL-quran
and another religion like christianity .

and all religions forbidde this thing

if you are do nor religious , this is not give you the droit to allow that .
just ALLAh can do that becuase he has been created us so he must give us the low in this world not another person becuase he will be punishment if we do not do anything wrong in the judgment day.

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Post by zaman » Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:20 pm

What makes you so sure about this?

because my religion said that in AL-quran
and another religion like christianity .

and all religions forbidden this thing

if you are nor religious , this is not give you the droit to allow that .
just ALLAh can do that because he has been created us so he must give us the low in this world not another person because
ALLAH will be punishment if we do not do anything wrong in the judgment day.

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Post by zaman » Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:23 pm

What makes you so sure about this?

because my religion said that in AL-quran
and another religion like christianity .

and all religions forbidden this thing

if you are nor religious , this is not give you the droit to allow that .
just ALLAh can do that because he has been created us so he must give us the law in this world not another person because
ALLAH will be punishment if we do not do anything wrong in the judgment day.

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Post by Dixie » Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:38 pm

My goodness.

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Post by MissLT » Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:31 pm

zaman wrote: What makes you so sure about this?

becuase my religion said that in AL-quran
and another religion like christianity .

and all religions forbidde this thing
This is what really annoys me. How sure are you to use ALL? ALL means ALL, not just some or most; it includes me or my religion or people who think your talk is ridiculous. Buddhism doesn't prohibits homosexuality. We are not born with our sins like Christians say they are. And people who practice homosexuality are not sinners.
zaman wrote:if you are do nor religious , this is not give you the droit to allow that .
just ALLAh can do that becuase he has been created us so he must give us the low in this world not another person becuase he will be punishment if we do not do anything wrong in the judgment day.
And may I ask you if your Allah has given you the right to judge people for their differences? Is it in your Koran? And how do you know what he might forgive and might not? Because someone is homosexual, he won't be forgiven by your Allah? Is it what you're telling me? Are you trying to make a decision for him now?

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Post by Danyet » Wed Apr 05, 2006 11:49 pm

LennyeTran wrote:We are not born with our sins like Christians say they are.
christians are not born with sins. children are considered innocent until age of reason

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danyet wrote:
LennyeTran wrote:We are not born with our sins like Christians say they are.
christians are not born with sins. children are considered innocent until age of reason
Fine, cross that part out, then. Christians are raised with sins or having sins, how about that?

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Post by Boris » Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:28 am

Homosexual it’s same sort of illness. Illness of brain. And I don’t understand why we have to connive them and support to distribute of contagion.

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Boris wrote:Homosexual it’s same sort of illness. Illness of brain. And I don’t understand why we have to connive them and support to distribute of contagion.
Really, doctor?

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Dixie wrote:
Boris wrote:Homosexual it’s same sort of illness. Illness of brain. And I don’t understand why we have to connive them and support to distribute of contagion.
Really, doctor?
Do you think its normal?

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Post by Dixie » Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:37 am

Boris wrote: Do you think its normal?
Who said what is to be normal and what not? Who established the rules? We don't care about violence, but we worry when two people (of the same sex) love each other?

By the way, homosexuality is not new. It's not a 21st century issue. It's existed for ever.

Maybe you dislike it, but let them be. They don't meddle in your life, then don't worry about it.

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Post by Danyet » Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:34 pm

Dr Boris has a good brain!! Russian brains are not screwed up by western political correct ideas yet!



Hmmm.......I wonder.......would I eat a steak from a steer if I knew that steer was a homo....

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Post by Boris » Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:54 pm

Dixie wrote:
Boris wrote: Do you think its normal?
Who said what is to be normal and what not?
Normal is when man makes sex with woman and they have kids. When two guys ~ themselves it’s not normal. I know it’s without medicine degree.
I am not interesting about personal life of them. Everyone can choose thy way. But I see an advertisement of this life style. I mean gay parade and other? I hate it.
Terrible when somebody suggests legalizing adopting kids by such couple.
Tolerance it’s not the best choose every time. If you want to love somebody with the same sex do it. But don’t display it for everyone.

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Post by Dixie » Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:54 pm

Oh man I am not going to discuss the same thing over and over again.

If you've got a problem with life, that's your problem.

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Post by Boris » Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:59 pm

Dixie, Maybe you have a problem. I’m not. I didn’t say any words to you personally.

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Post by Dixie » Thu Apr 06, 2006 5:25 pm

Boris wrote:Dixie, Maybe you have a problem. I’m not. I didn’t say any words to you personally.
I don't have any problem with two people loving each other. I am tired of discussing the same thing over and over again on the forums, that's all. Unfortunately, the world is full of people who still think homosexuality is "abnormal", an "illness" and such. I've been defending it constantly on the forums and that's why I told you I am tired of it. You're free to think whatever you want to think. But I am happy that I can consider myself a tolerant person.

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danyet wrote: Hmmm.......I wonder.......would I eat a steak from a steer if I knew that steer was a homo....
Well, I have a big, gayish feeling that you have. So, you're gonna be a vegeterian?

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Boris wrote: Terrible when somebody suggests legalizing adopting kids by such couple.
Tolerance it’s not the best choose every time. If you want to love somebody with the same sex do it. But don’t display it for everyone.
Why don't you go back to Talking Point Discussion and answer my posts there about gays adopting kids? If you can answer me why straight people deserve to raise their kids better than some gay people when those straight people have kids and then throw their babies in the garbage, kill them to get insurance money, force them to work in brothels, train them to become con artists, etc. And while you're there, I think you wouldn't mind answering me why we have heterosexual people who are willing to adopt kids, but there are still many orphans need to be adopted????

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I know, somebody will say "Oh, these old farts can't stop talking about God's conception for people, there is new times and everybody may do what they wish!" Maybe, maybe. But marriage between the same sex people is private, intim action, so phrase was told by Boris "don’t display it for everyone" is correct. Let anybody explane me what one would say to his child if he has asked " Mommy, why these men are kissing? Do you have any right ansver?

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Cucumber wrote:I know, somebody will say "Oh, these old farts can't stop talking about God's conception for people, there is new times and everybody may do what they wish!" Maybe, maybe. But marriage between the same sex people is private, intim action, so phrase was told by Boris "don’t display it for everyone" is correct. Let anybody explane me what one would say to his child if he has asked " Mommy, why these men are kissing? Do you have any right ansver?
What he was saying is that they CANNOT get married, not just no intimate actions in public. And by all means, I think intimate actions in public is just yuck whether it's from a homo or a hetero couple. I mean, holding hand or hugging is okay, but kissing? Get a room, for crying out loud. :roll:

And what's wrong with gay parade? Do they have sex during the parade? Or do they just wanna show you they're existed and would like a little more respect from you?????

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Post by Cucumber » Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:45 pm

Well, well. Sometimes I switch on TV in the afternoon and what I see??? Kissing man at the screen and other what have to be showed only after midnight. Perhaps, in the USA is working the strong lows but there we are shocked. It called "democracy" here.

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Post by MissLT » Thu Apr 06, 2006 7:48 pm

Cucumber wrote:Well, well. Sometimes I switch on TV in the afternoon and what I see??? Kissing man at the screen and other what have to be showed only after midnight. Perhaps, in the USA is working the strong lows but there we are shocked. Here this is called "democracy"
:shock: What show is that? I'm in the States and I haven't seen anything like that. Well, twice... Once in San Francisco and once on Will and Grace. That's all.

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LennyeTran wrote:
Cucumber wrote:I know, somebody will say "Oh, these old farts can't stop talking about God's conception for people, there is new times and everybody may do what they wish!" Maybe, maybe. But marriage between the same sex people is private, intim action, so phrase was told by Boris "don’t display it for everyone" is correct. Let anybody explane me what one would say to his child if he has asked " Mommy, why these men are kissing? Do you have any right ansver?
What he was saying is that they CANNOT get married, not just no intimate actions in public. And by all means, I think intimate actions in public is just yuck whether it's from a homo or a hetero couple. I mean, holding hand or hugging is okay, but kissing? Get a room, for crying out loud. :roll:

And what's wrong with gay parade? Do they have sex during the parade? Or do they just wanna show you they're existed and would like a little more respect from you?????
the bold is just what i share with you!

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Cucumber wrote:Well, well. Sometimes I switch on TV in the afternoon and what I see??? Kissing man at the screen and other what have to be showed only after midnight. Perhaps, in the USA is working the strong lows but there we are shocked. Here this is called "democracy"
:shock: What show is that? I'm in the States and I haven't seen anything like that. Well, twice... Once in San Francisco and once on Will and Grace. That's all.
I didn't speak about USA. I'm speaking about my country and about shows which we can see by our TV. Of course, it isn't daily but sometimes our children can see it and they aren't controlled by us because we are working this time.

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Cucumber wrote: I didn't speak about USA. I'm speaking about my country and about shows which we can see by our TV. Of course, it isn't daily but sometimes our children can see it and they aren't controlled by us because we are working this time.
Is it like a national TV channel or a, you know, channel? :?

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Post by Cucumber » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:10 pm

Whole week our TV was talking about Elton Jone's wedding. My daughter asked me about this action and I was confused. I didn't know what I must say her.

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Tora wrote:
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Cucumber wrote:I know, somebody will say "Oh, these old farts can't stop talking about God's conception for people, there is new times and everybody may do what they wish!" Maybe, maybe. But marriage between the same sex people is private, intim action, so phrase was told by Boris "don’t display it for everyone" is correct. Let anybody explane me what one would say to his child if he has asked " Mommy, why these men are kissing? Do you have any right ansver?
What he was saying is that they CANNOT get married, not just no intimate actions in public. And by all means, I think intimate actions in public is just yuck whether it's from a homo or a hetero couple. I mean, holding hand or hugging is okay, but kissing? Get a room, for crying out loud. :roll:

And what's wrong with gay parade? Do they have sex during the parade? Or do they just wanna show you they're existed and would like a little more respect from you?????
the bold is just what i share with you!
I'm fine with couples kissing each other before getting out of the cars to go to work, but I'm not fine when they do it while standing in line or so forth. Those long kisses in public just gross me out.

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Post by Cucumber » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:15 pm

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Cucumber wrote: I didn't speak about USA. I'm speaking about my country and about shows which we can see by our TV. Of course, it isn't daily but sometimes our children can see it and they aren't controlled by us because we are working this time.
Is it like a national TV channel or a, you know, channel? :?
Here isn't any restrctions for this. Our cable companies show the broadcast directly from satellite and nobody can control this. Of course, porno is forbidden.
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Post by MissLT » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:16 pm

Cucumber wrote:Whole week our TV was talking about Elton Jone's wedding. My daughter asked me about this action and I was confused. I didn't know what I must say her.
It depends on her age you should consider the answer. If you think she's old enough, I think you should tell her the truth. If she's a little girl, well, why don't you sing to her Phoebe's song,

"Sometimes men love women
And sometimes men love men
Then there are bisexuals
Though some just say they're kidding themselves
La-la-la-la-la-la..."

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Cucumber wrote: Here isn't any restrctions for this. Our cable companies show the broadcast directly from satellite and nobody can control this.
No parental setting or anything? :shock:

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Post by Cucumber » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:22 pm

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Cucumber wrote: Here isn't any restrctions for this. Our cable companies show the broadcast directly from satellite and nobody can control this.
No parental setting or anything? :shock:
He he! We have analog TV here! Nothing parental setting! See what you wish, baby!

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We try to restrict to access but it is not so easy!

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Cucumber wrote: He he! We have analog TV here! Nothing parental setting! See what you wish, baby!
Well, I wish we have it like that here, but I ain't having my wish, am I? My mom doesn't like cable, so we can't have it. And local broadcasting doesn't have many things to watch. They only show the stuff you're talking about on cable or satellite TV programs.

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Post by MissLT » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:28 pm

Cucumber wrote:We try to restrict to access but it is not so easy!
You mean you're hooked to those shows? :lol:

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Post by Cucumber » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:36 pm

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Cucumber wrote: He he! We have analog TV here! Nothing parental setting! See what you wish, baby!
Well, I wish we have it like that here, but I ain't having my wish, am I? My mom doesn't like cable, so we can't have it. And local broadcasting doesn't have many things to watch. They only show the stuff you're talking about on cable or satellite TV programs.[/quote
On my opinion, I don't wish neither cable nor satellite, only news chanels and such as "discovery". The DVD is enought. But I have no choise, if I wish "Discovey", I have to get fixed shedule of chanels. There is 45 and some from it show porno from time to time.

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Post by MissLT » Thu Apr 06, 2006 8:41 pm

Cucumber wrote: On my opinion, I don't wish neither cable nor satellite, only news chanels and such as "discovery". The DVD is enought. But I have no choise, if I wish "Discovey", I have to get fixed shedule of chanels. There is 45 and some from it show porno from time to time.
If it's not local broadcasting, then why can't you set the password to block those channels? :?

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Post by Danyet » Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:24 am

As I have said before if homos wanna be together then nobody is stopping them but they must not invade my club called marriage. They must get their own club and call it another name because this name is already taken.

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Fine, they'd call it companonship/partnership ceremony. And it will celebrate in the different way, but its value is the same as a 'hetero' marriage. How about that?

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Post by Danyet » Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:50 am

Yeah yeah.......as long as the homos are happy that it has the same value to them but it will never mean diddley squat to me!!

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danyet wrote:Yeah yeah.......as long as the homos are happy that it has the same value to them but it will never mean diddley squat to me!!
Don't care about what you think, babe, as long as it's legal to all.

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LennyeTran wrote:
Tora wrote:
LennyeTran wrote: What he was saying is that they CANNOT get married, not just no intimate actions in public. And by all means, I think intimate actions in public is just yuck whether it's from a homo or a hetero couple. I mean, holding hand or hugging is okay, but kissing? Get a room, for crying out loud. :roll:

And what's wrong with gay parade? Do they have sex during the parade? Or do they just wanna show you they're existed and would like a little more respect from you?????
the bold is just what i share with you!
I'm fine with couples kissing each other before getting out of the cars to go to work, but I'm not fine when they do it while standing in line or so forth. Those long kisses in public just gross me out.
I agree, last time i was travelling in metro i was standing blocked by two young couples, both kissing... felt embarassed, like standing in the centre of a square where a thousand lovers try to beat Guinness record...

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LennyeTran wrote:
danyet wrote:Yeah yeah.......as long as the homos are happy that it has the same value to them but it will never mean diddley squat to me!!
Don't care about what you think, babe, as long as it's legal to all.
That is the point..........it will never be "legal" to all. You can not legislate something like that.. for most people it will always be a mistake of nature nomatter what laws are enacted.

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Post by Cucumber » Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:33 pm

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Cucumber wrote: On my opinion, I don't wish neither cable nor satellite, only news chanels and such as "discovery". The DVD is enought. But I have no choise, if I wish "Discovey", I have to get fixed shedule of chanels. There is 45 and some from it show porno from time to time.
If it's not local broadcasting, then why can't you set the password to block those channels? :?
There is no digital TV yet and we can't set parental control at our boxes. I've joked about DTV here.

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Post by MissLT » Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:56 pm

danyet wrote:That is the point..........it will never be "legal" to all. You can not legislate something like that.. for most people it will always be a mistake of nature nomatter what laws are enacted.
Well, most of European countries have made it legal. So do Canada, Massachusetts, some South America countries, some African countries and Australia. And when we could kick Anorld out of office, Calif. will make it legal, too. The mid-west states? Well, I don't really care about their opinions since they're bunch of idiots, anyway. In short, I don't need all because I don't count those states.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Laws ... uality.PNG

Check that picture and you'll see that homosexual people are everywhere, and people are open-minded enough to acknowledge it except most countries in Africa. I mean, minimal, large, and death penalties? Life in prison? What the heck! :x

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I suppose lesbian love. Woman's nature is different to man's. But the man have to be as man. Otherwise he is either ill (this is very seldom) or immoralety. I'm truing to translate a humur, maybe you'll understand it.
One gey comes to doctor and say:
" Doc, my bum isn't right, there is something wrong there. Visiting of toilet isn't so pleasantly to me"
Doc had wrote recipe and asked a nurse to put a stamp there. After gay had left him the nurse say "Listen, doc, but you've prescribed a strong laxative to him! Why!?"
"Let he know, for what his bum is needed!"
Maybe it's roughly, but I guess it is instructively.

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Post by MissLT » Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:34 pm

Cucumber wrote:I suppose lesbian love. Woman's nature is different to man's. But the man have to be as man. Otherwise he is either ill (this is very seldom) or immoralety.
This is the same as saying a man can't cry. :roll:

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Cucumber wrote:I suppose lesbian love. Woman's nature is different to man's. But the man have to be as man. Otherwise he is either ill (this is very seldom) or immoralety.
This is the same as saying a man can't cry. :roll:
No, if a man has some problems let he do something other than this. Man's tenderness must show in love to woman, to children (not pedophilia!!!) to animals (not buggery!!!), but not to man. If only it isn't mental illness. :D :twisted:

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No, if a man has some problems let he do something other than this. Man's tenderness must show in love to woman, to children (not pedophilia!!!) to animals (not buggery!!!), but not to man. If only it isn't mental illness. :D :twisted:
Who makes that rule?

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Cucumber wrote:
No, if a man has some problems let he do something other than this. Man's tenderness must show in love to woman, to children (not pedophilia!!!) to animals (not buggery!!!), but not to man. If only it isn't mental illness. :D :twisted:
Who makes that rule?
It isn't the rule. It's human's nature. I assume than there may be some exceptions but i think that a public demonstration of gay marriage is a nonsense.

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Cucumber wrote: It isn't the rule. It's human's nature. I assume than there may be some exceptions but i think that a public demonstration of gay marriage is a nonsense.
Where did you get that proof? And are you telling me that people in European countries, Canada, etc. are nonsense to legalize homosexual marriages? :roll:

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Cucumber wrote: It isn't the rule. It's human's nature. I assume than there may be some exceptions but i think that a public demonstration of gay marriage is a nonsense.
Where did you get that proof? And are you telling me that people in European countries, Canada, etc. are nonsense to legalize homosexual marriages? :roll:
And what next? Netherland legalised drugs, but they've understood his mistake and now they are trying to stop this one. Even will be with homosexual marriages.

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Post by MissLT » Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:23 pm

Cucumber wrote: And what next? Netherland legalised drugs, but they've understood his mistake and now they are trying to stop this one. Even will be with homosexual marriages.
Are you telling me you're associating drugs with homosexuality?

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Cucumber wrote: And what next? Netherland legalised drugs, but they've understood his mistake and now they are trying to stop this one. Even will be with homosexual marriages.
Are you telling me you're associating drugs with homosexuality?
No, of course. I associate a principles. I'm not dogmatic person, let they live as they wish. But marriage with some sex people is unnormal. Marriage is living couple people with diffirent sex, let this action will be something other than marriage.

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Cucumber wrote: No, of course. I associate a principles. I'm not dogmatic person, let they live as they wish. But marriage with some sex people is unnormal. Marriage is living couple people with diffirent sex, let this action will be something other than marriage.
May I ask how the principles are alike?

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Post by Cucumber » Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:44 pm

O'k. My second half is waiting me in the bed. We will be able to diskuss this tomorrow. See you later!

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Cucumber wrote: . But marriage with some sex people is unnormal.
And who said that?

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I did!

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danyet wrote:I did!
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Hi Dixie!!

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Hi Mister!

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Dixie wrote:
Cucumber wrote: . But marriage with some sex people is unnormal.
And who said that?
Danyet did. :D and I did, my wife did, my friend and and majority of other people too. :) Well, do you know what symbolize the "rainbow flag" and who inwented that one? The great idea of equality of rights, freedom of the individual, the idea of green peace, all this conceptions had in mean a philosopher and a scientist Nicolay Rerikh when he created this flag. Did he know really in 1921 that this is gey's flag?
Also I didn't hear that Adam gave the apple to other Adam. I've ever thought that it was Eve. But Adam and Eve was first couple. Not Adam and Adam. It's first conception what I spoke about.

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Cucumber wrote:
Dixie wrote:
Cucumber wrote: . But marriage with some sex people is unnormal.
And who said that?
Danyet did. :D and I did, my wife did, my friend and and majority of other people too. :) Well, do you know what symbolize the "rainbow flag" and who inwented that one? The great idea of equality of rights, freedom of the individual, the idea of green peace, all this conceptions had in mean a philosopher and a scientist Nicolay Rerikh when he created this flag. Did he know really in 1921 that this is gey's flag?
Also I didn't hear that Adam gave the apple to other Adam. I've ever thought that it was Eve. But Adam and Eve was first couple. Not Adam and Adam. It's first conception what I spoke about.
here starts a quarrel who brought life to us... was it god the merciful or the scientific monkeys the mammals... erm... aliens, no? :lol: :lol: (please don't take these three lines for serious :roll: :lol: )

I guess there is no need in all this persuation as everybody will definitely stand on his own ground... just sharing views, yeah... the time will determine who was right and who was wrong... :wink:

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Cucumber wrote: Also I didn't hear that Adam gave the apple to other Adam. I've ever thought that it was Eve. But Adam and Eve was first couple. Not Adam and Adam. It's first conception what I spoke about.
Ah ha! Gotcha! So now it's all about the Bible, and EVERYONE has to do what the Bible says?

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There is two points of wiew: attitude of a traditional society to gey's and attitude of the gey's to the traditional society. Both the society and the gey's have got their own position. Yes, geys lived always. They was as social outcasts before and they are generaly recognized nowadays. But ewerybody is saying that the geys is people the same than we are but a little numbers of them wish to see their own children as the geys. I'm honest. I don't like gey's marriage. I'm disapointed in aggressive publisity this "modus vivendi" (mode of life). At the same time i have no any hostility to them as to people. They have two hands and two legs and often they have wise heads. Let they will be as the geys in their sircle and let i will never know about this.

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Cucumber wrote:There is two points of wiew: attitude of a traditional society to gey's and attitude of the gey's to the traditional society. Both the society and the gey's have got their own position. Yes, geys lived always. They was as social outcasts before and they are generaly recognized nowadays. But ewerybody is saying that the geys is people the same than we are but a little numbers of them wish to see their own children as the geys. I'm honest. I don't like gey's marriage. I'm disapointed in aggressive publisity this "modus vivendi" (mode of life). At the same time i have no any hostility to them as to people. They have two hands and two legs and often they have wise heads. Let they will be as the geys in their sircle and let i will never know about this.
Okay, now who said that? Because I've heard people wanted their children to be from gay and back to straight, not the other way around.

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LennyeTran wrote:
Cucumber wrote: Also I didn't hear that Adam gave the apple to other Adam. I've ever thought that it was Eve. But Adam and Eve was first couple. Not Adam and Adam. It's first conception what I spoke about.
Ah ha! Gotcha! So now it's all about the Bible, and EVERYONE has to do what the Bible says?
No, the point is in the other. This is only allegory. I would say about human's nature. Bible-neither here not there.

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Cucumber wrote: No, the point is in the other. This is only allegory. I would say about human's nature. Bible-neither here not there.
Humans are born with homosexuality as like other animals. Some have it stronger than the others. How could one man and woman together is a part of human's nature? If you didn't talk about the Bible or base on it at all, then where did you get that fact?

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LennyeTran wrote:
Cucumber wrote:There is two points of wiew: attitude of a traditional society to gey's and attitude of the gey's to the traditional society. Both the society and the gey's have got their own position. Yes, geys lived always. They was as social outcasts before and they are generaly recognized nowadays. But ewerybody is saying that the geys is people the same than we are but a little numbers of them wish to see their own children as the geys. I'm honest. I don't like gey's marriage. I'm disapointed in aggressive publisity this "modus vivendi" (mode of life). At the same time i have no any hostility to them as to people. They have two hands and two legs and often they have wise heads. Let they will be as the geys in their sircle and let i will never know about this.
Okay, now who said that? Because I've heard people wanted their children to be from gay and back to straight, not the other way around.
How many people do you know like they?

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Post by MissLT » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:58 pm

Cucumber wrote: How many people do know like they?
How many people do you know are not like them? Homosexuality is not a fashion trend; one has to follow it when it's in style. Therefore, most people would be shocked when their children turned gay. They would slowly accept the fact later when they'd realized that they loved their kids more than what and how the society would think of them. Some just never wanted to accept their children were gays since it'd show they had hidden homosexuality inside them. Mothers who are more gay would have a big chance to give birth to gay sons.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6612

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LennyeTran wrote:
Cucumber wrote: How many people do know like they?
How many people do you know are not like them? Homosexuality is not a fashion trend; one has to follow it when it's in style. Therefore, most people would be shocked when their children turned gay. They would slowly accept the fact later when they'd realized that they loved their kids more than what and how the society would think of them. Some just never wanted to accept their children were gays since it'd show they had hidden homosexuality inside them. Mothers who are more gay would have a big chance to give birth to gay sons.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6612
I know this and i agree with you in this fact. Also i know that these people is very unhappy and they often are trying change their sex. Will they really taking part in gay-parades?

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Post by Cucumber » Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:16 pm

Do you want to say that all these gays who is showed by TV and who take part in gay-parade are bored as homosexual?

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