GAY MARRIAGE

Danyet · Post by **Danyet** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:24 am

As I have said before if homos wanna be together then nobody is stopping them but they must not invade my club called marriage. They must get their own club and call it another name because this name is already taken.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:41 am

Fine, they'd call it companonship/partnership ceremony. And it will celebrate in the different way, but its value is the same as a 'hetero' marriage. How about that?

Danyet · Post by **Danyet** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:50 am

Yeah yeah.......as long as the homos are happy that it has the same value to them but it will never mean diddley squat to me!!

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 3:54 am

danyet wrote:Yeah yeah.......as long as the homos are happy that it has the same value to them but it will never mean diddley squat to me!!

Don't care about what you think, babe, as long as it's legal to all.

Tora · Post by **Tora** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 4:01 am

LennyeTran wrote:
Tora wrote:
LennyeTran wrote: What he was saying is that they CANNOT get married, not just no intimate actions in public. And by all means, I think intimate actions in public is just yuck whether it's from a homo or a hetero couple. I mean, holding hand or hugging is okay, but kissing? Get a room, for crying out loud.

And what's wrong with gay parade? Do they have sex during the parade? Or do they just wanna show you they're existed and would like a little more respect from you?????
the bold is just what i share with you!
I'm fine with couples kissing each other before getting out of the cars to go to work, but I'm not fine when they do it while standing in line or so forth. Those long kisses in public just gross me out.

I agree, last time i was travelling in metro i was standing blocked by two young couples, both kissing... felt embarassed, like standing in the centre of a square where a thousand lovers try to beat Guinness record...

Danyet · Post by **Danyet** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 1:28 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
danyet wrote:Yeah yeah.......as long as the homos are happy that it has the same value to them but it will never mean diddley squat to me!!
Don't care about what you think, babe, as long as it's legal to all.

That is the point..........it will never be "legal" to all. You can not legislate something like that.. for most people it will always be a mistake of nature nomatter what laws are enacted.

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:33 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
Cucumber wrote: On my opinion, I don't wish neither cable nor satellite, only news chanels and such as "discovery". The DVD is enought. But I have no choise, if I wish "Discovey", I have to get fixed shedule of chanels. There is 45 and some from it show porno from time to time.
If it's not local broadcasting, then why can't you set the password to block those channels? :?

There is no digital TV yet and we can't set parental control at our boxes. I've joked about DTV here.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:56 pm

danyet wrote:That is the point..........it will never be "legal" to all. You can not legislate something like that.. for most people it will always be a mistake of nature nomatter what laws are enacted.

Well, most of European countries have made it legal. So do Canada, Massachusetts, some South America countries, some African countries and Australia. And when we could kick Anorld out of office, Calif. will make it legal, too. The mid-west states? Well, I don't really care about their opinions since they're bunch of idiots, anyway. In short, I don't need all because I don't count those states.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:02 pm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Laws ... uality.PNG

Check that picture and you'll see that homosexual people are everywhere, and people are open-minded enough to acknowledge it except most countries in Africa. I mean, minimal, large, and death penalties? Life in prison? What the heck! :x

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:22 pm

I suppose lesbian love. Woman's nature is different to man's. But the man have to be as man. Otherwise he is either ill (this is very seldom) or immoralety. I'm truing to translate a humur, maybe you'll understand it.
One gey comes to doctor and say:
" Doc, my bum isn't right, there is something wrong there. Visiting of toilet isn't so pleasantly to me"
Doc had wrote recipe and asked a nurse to put a stamp there. After gay had left him the nurse say "Listen, doc, but you've prescribed a strong laxative to him! Why!?"
"Let he know, for what his bum is needed!"
Maybe it's roughly, but I guess it is instructively.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:34 pm

Cucumber wrote:I suppose lesbian love. Woman's nature is different to man's. But the man have to be as man. Otherwise he is either ill (this is very seldom) or immoralety.

This is the same as saying a man can't cry.

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:46 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
Cucumber wrote:I suppose lesbian love. Woman's nature is different to man's. But the man have to be as man. Otherwise he is either ill (this is very seldom) or immoralety.
This is the same as saying a man can't cry.

No, if a man has some problems let he do something other than this. Man's tenderness must show in love to woman, to children (not pedophilia!!!) to animals (not buggery!!!), but not to man. If only it isn't mental illness. :D

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:53 pm

Cucumber wrote:
No, if a man has some problems let he do something other than this. Man's tenderness must show in love to woman, to children (not pedophilia!!!) to animals (not buggery!!!), but not to man. If only it isn't mental illness. :D

Who makes that rule?

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:05 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
Cucumber wrote:
No, if a man has some problems let he do something other than this. Man's tenderness must show in love to woman, to children (not pedophilia!!!) to animals (not buggery!!!), but not to man. If only it isn't mental illness. :D
Who makes that rule?

It isn't the rule. It's human's nature. I assume than there may be some exceptions but i think that a public demonstration of gay marriage is a nonsense.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:09 pm

Cucumber wrote: It isn't the rule. It's human's nature. I assume than there may be some exceptions but i think that a public demonstration of gay marriage is a nonsense.

Where did you get that proof? And are you telling me that people in European countries, Canada, etc. are nonsense to legalize homosexual marriages?

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:20 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
Cucumber wrote: It isn't the rule. It's human's nature. I assume than there may be some exceptions but i think that a public demonstration of gay marriage is a nonsense.
Where did you get that proof? And are you telling me that people in European countries, Canada, etc. are nonsense to legalize homosexual marriages?

And what next? Netherland legalised drugs, but they've understood his mistake and now they are trying to stop this one. Even will be with homosexual marriages.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:23 pm

Cucumber wrote: And what next? Netherland legalised drugs, but they've understood his mistake and now they are trying to stop this one. Even will be with homosexual marriages.

Are you telling me you're associating drugs with homosexuality?

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:34 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
Cucumber wrote: And what next? Netherland legalised drugs, but they've understood his mistake and now they are trying to stop this one. Even will be with homosexual marriages.
Are you telling me you're associating drugs with homosexuality?

No, of course. I associate a principles. I'm not dogmatic person, let they live as they wish. But marriage with some sex people is unnormal. Marriage is living couple people with diffirent sex, let this action will be something other than marriage.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:43 pm

Cucumber wrote: No, of course. I associate a principles. I'm not dogmatic person, let they live as they wish. But marriage with some sex people is unnormal. Marriage is living couple people with diffirent sex, let this action will be something other than marriage.

May I ask how the principles are alike?

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:44 pm

O'k. My second half is waiting me in the bed. We will be able to diskuss this tomorrow. See you later!

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Fri Apr 07, 2006 8:47 pm

Good night!

Dixie · Post by **Dixie** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:21 am

Cucumber wrote: . But marriage with some sex people is unnormal.

And who said that?

Danyet · Post by **Danyet** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:59 am

I did!

Dixie · Post by **Dixie** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:04 am

danyet wrote:I did!

**Bow**

Danyet · Post by **Danyet** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:13 am

Hi Dixie!!

Dixie · Post by **Dixie** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 10:18 am

Hi Mister!

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:40 pm

Dixie wrote:
Cucumber wrote: . But marriage with some sex people is unnormal.
And who said that?

Danyet did. :D and I did, my wife did, my friend and and majority of other people too. :) Well, do you know what symbolize the "rainbow flag" and who inwented that one? The great idea of equality of rights, freedom of the individual, the idea of green peace, all this conceptions had in mean a philosopher and a scientist Nicolay Rerikh when he created this flag. Did he know really in 1921 that this is gey's flag?
Also I didn't hear that Adam gave the apple to other Adam. I've ever thought that it was Eve. But Adam and Eve was first couple. Not Adam and Adam. It's first conception what I spoke about.

Tora · Post by **Tora** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 4:48 pm

Cucumber wrote:
Dixie wrote:
Cucumber wrote: . But marriage with some sex people is unnormal.
And who said that?
Danyet did. :D and I did, my wife did, my friend and and majority of other people too. :) Well, do you know what symbolize the "rainbow flag" and who inwented that one? The great idea of equality of rights, freedom of the individual, the idea of green peace, all this conceptions had in mean a philosopher and a scientist Nicolay Rerikh when he created this flag. Did he know really in 1921 that this is gey's flag?
Also I didn't hear that Adam gave the apple to other Adam. I've ever thought that it was Eve. But Adam and Eve was first couple. Not Adam and Adam. It's first conception what I spoke about.

here starts a quarrel who brought life to us... was it god the merciful or the scientific monkeys the mammals... erm... aliens, no?

(please don't take these three lines for serious

)

I guess there is no need in all this persuation as everybody will definitely stand on his own ground... just sharing views, yeah... the time will determine who was right and who was wrong...

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:29 pm

Cucumber wrote: Also I didn't hear that Adam gave the apple to other Adam. I've ever thought that it was Eve. But Adam and Eve was first couple. Not Adam and Adam. It's first conception what I spoke about.

Ah ha! Gotcha! So now it's all about the Bible, and EVERYONE has to do what the Bible says?

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:38 pm

There is two points of wiew: attitude of a traditional society to gey's and attitude of the gey's to the traditional society. Both the society and the gey's have got their own position. Yes, geys lived always. They was as social outcasts before and they are generaly recognized nowadays. But ewerybody is saying that the geys is people the same than we are but a little numbers of them wish to see their own children as the geys. I'm honest. I don't like gey's marriage. I'm disapointed in aggressive publisity this "modus vivendi" (mode of life). At the same time i have no any hostility to them as to people. They have two hands and two legs and often they have wise heads. Let they will be as the geys in their sircle and let i will never know about this.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:42 pm

Cucumber wrote:There is two points of wiew: attitude of a traditional society to gey's and attitude of the gey's to the traditional society. Both the society and the gey's have got their own position. Yes, geys lived always. They was as social outcasts before and they are generaly recognized nowadays. But ewerybody is saying that the geys is people the same than we are but a little numbers of them wish to see their own children as the geys. I'm honest. I don't like gey's marriage. I'm disapointed in aggressive publisity this "modus vivendi" (mode of life). At the same time i have no any hostility to them as to people. They have two hands and two legs and often they have wise heads. Let they will be as the geys in their sircle and let i will never know about this.

Okay, now who said that? Because I've heard people wanted their children to be from gay and back to straight, not the other way around.

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:43 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
Cucumber wrote: Also I didn't hear that Adam gave the apple to other Adam. I've ever thought that it was Eve. But Adam and Eve was first couple. Not Adam and Adam. It's first conception what I spoke about.
Ah ha! Gotcha! So now it's all about the Bible, and EVERYONE has to do what the Bible says?

No, the point is in the other. This is only allegory. I would say about human's nature. Bible-neither here not there.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:46 pm

Cucumber wrote: No, the point is in the other. This is only allegory. I would say about human's nature. Bible-neither here not there.

Humans are born with homosexuality as like other animals. Some have it stronger than the others. How could one man and woman together is a part of human's nature? If you didn't talk about the Bible or base on it at all, then where did you get that fact?

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:50 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
Cucumber wrote:There is two points of wiew: attitude of a traditional society to gey's and attitude of the gey's to the traditional society. Both the society and the gey's have got their own position. Yes, geys lived always. They was as social outcasts before and they are generaly recognized nowadays. But ewerybody is saying that the geys is people the same than we are but a little numbers of them wish to see their own children as the geys. I'm honest. I don't like gey's marriage. I'm disapointed in aggressive publisity this "modus vivendi" (mode of life). At the same time i have no any hostility to them as to people. They have two hands and two legs and often they have wise heads. Let they will be as the geys in their sircle and let i will never know about this.
Okay, now who said that? Because I've heard people wanted their children to be from gay and back to straight, not the other way around.

How many people do you know like they?

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 5:58 pm

Cucumber wrote: How many people do know like they?

How many people do you know are not like them? Homosexuality is not a fashion trend; one has to follow it when it's in style. Therefore, most people would be shocked when their children turned gay. They would slowly accept the fact later when they'd realized that they loved their kids more than what and how the society would think of them. Some just never wanted to accept their children were gays since it'd show they had hidden homosexuality inside them. Mothers who are more gay would have a big chance to give birth to gay sons.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6612

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:07 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
Cucumber wrote: How many people do know like they?
How many people do you know are not like them? Homosexuality is not a fashion trend; one has to follow it when it's in style. Therefore, most people would be shocked when their children turned gay. They would slowly accept the fact later when they'd realized that they loved their kids more than what and how the society would think of them. Some just never wanted to accept their children were gays since it'd show they had hidden homosexuality inside them. Mothers who are more gay would have a big chance to give birth to gay sons.

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6612

I know this and i agree with you in this fact. Also i know that these people is very unhappy and they often are trying change their sex. Will they really taking part in gay-parades?

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:16 pm

Do you want to say that all these gays who is showed by TV and who take part in gay-parade are bored as homosexual?

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:16 pm

Cucumber wrote: Will they really taking part in gay-parades?

There are people who are not gays in the gay parade just to support and help out their loved ones. Also, they're there for the fun. I am not Chinese, but I have been helping out carrying the dragon in the Chinese parade. I'm there to have fun and help my cousin out who would like to help his friends out. So, it's a big circle of helping each other and having fun, you know. You don't have to be one to be a part of something. Be there with your loved ones and support them. That's what they need.

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:27 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
Cucumber wrote: Will they really taking part in gay-parades?
They are people who are not gays in the gay parade just to support and help out their loved ones. Also, they're there for the fun. I am not Chinese, but I have been helping out carrying the dragon in the Chinese parade. I'm there to have fun and help my cousin out who would like to help his friends out. So, it's a big circle of helping each other and having fun, you know. You don't have to be one to be a part of something. Be there with your loved ones and support them. That's what they need.

There was a gay-parade last year here. They ask our official place at their disposal main street in the Riga, to move near our main memorial and etc. It's the same as to go with this show past 11 September Memorial in the New York. Our official got permit them but people was shocked with this and organized a scufle. Where is an exit?

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:30 pm

Cucumber wrote: There was a gay-parade last year here. They ask our official place at their disposal main street in the Riga, to move near our main memorial and etc. It's the same as to go with this show past 11 September Memorial in the New York. Our official got permit them but people was shocked with this and organized a scufle. Where is an exit?

Excuse me for being ignorant, but may I ask for your point of this story? :?

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:49 pm

LennyeTran wrote:
Cucumber wrote: There was a gay-parade last year here. They ask our official place at their disposal main street in the Riga, to move near our main memorial and etc. It's the same as to go with this show past 11 September Memorial in the New York. Our official got permit them but people was shocked with this and organized a scufle. Where is an exit?
Excuse me for being ignorant, but may I ask for your point of this story? :?

I think let they go. But only not along the main street. There is many good places here. If they wish to meet together and to have fun- please, our city is not so small. We even have especially places for show. Had be better that they went there. We aren't ready for this show nearby to our sacred place.

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 6:59 pm

But it seems to me that this show had conducted with other aim so it was the conflict there.

MissLT · Post by **MissLT** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 4:36 am

I'm sorry. I still don't understand it.... :?

tikay · Post by **tikay** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:28 pm

danyet wrote:
FFFF wrote:and what will you do if some gays try to kiss you?
I've faced this situation 3 times ,this is disgusting
danyet wrote:danyet"]Just make sure that he shaves first, you don't want to get razor burn!

'ave ya been there darling?

Danyet I am
(joking of course) and girls...make sure she shaves too...dykes on steroids and testosterone that is...(no mean-ness intended darlings!) I love dykes but they need to leave me alone, they are not my type. I will kiss them but not sensually!
Maybe later in life I will change my mind though...ya just never know where you are going sometimes until you get there! we earthlings are funny critters!

tikay · Post by **tikay** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:40 pm

danyet wrote:Comming soon! POLYGAMY..........does anyone want to make a bet!!!

There are plenty of poligamists Danyet...I mean, aren't there?
Oh I think you may mean, for that to become the norm...is that the point you are making?

tikay · Post by **tikay** » Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:59 pm

[quote="Cucumber"]I know, somebody will say "Oh, these old farts can't stop talking about God's conception for people, there is new times and everybody may do what they wish!" Maybe, maybe. But marriage between the same sex people is private, intim action, so phrase was told by Boris "don’t display it for everyone" is correct. Let anybody explane me what one would say to his child if he has asked " Mommy, why these men are kissing? Do you have any right ansver?[/quote]

For the loving person it is not a big deal Cucumber, I was told by my mother, when I asked her about it at 8 years old, a very long time ago....and I accepted it as life... and never looked back, or judged these folks!

gee...didn't the Christianity also say that Jesus suggested man to be like the little child (in their starry eyed acceptance of life) I think this is what he meant no judgement leave that to your Heavenly Father... am I not right?
...lest WE be judged, as well, as harshly too Oh HELL!

(My mom merely spoke simply and said men that love men often will wear make-up, like he does, Tracey.)
SIMPLE. Done. I made no issue of it. (nor did my mom)

I wanted just to know more about these interesting people who loved their own. In innocense we must return to our own backyards, our own lives, and to our own failings and be sure to be good people, if we pretend to have some favor with a God...not to point the finger over there thinking we do no wrong.
There is a lot of arguing over other peoples sex lives, when the subjects of more importance go un-spoken...why this obsession with sexuality? What about WARS...POLLUTION...Mental-llness ...Crime....Homelessness...Starvation...are these to be ignored to keep focus on a sexual behavior of a semi-small portion of the world ?

The very wierdest thing to me today as i write is that I assumed you to be a female when we have talked before....Cucumber! i cannot even believe that you are actually a guy, a man. You seemed like a girl to me...a woman, so maybe underneath all the masculine bravado, who knows?

And Danyet...you should know that bulls are likely to stick in another male when they are crazed....just like my ex did when he was drunk. ( I still love my ex...but I am a bit pissed)
He pleaded that he was actually gay and we split up to live together, without the passion/fire....actually if I can be open others should just grow up. AND i am sick of hearing people say what GOD thinks so I am going to start doing it too.
AS IF WE KNOW.

GEEZ! Why would God create gays you small minded sheep? Do you ever think deeply ?
The latest brain research said many years ago thatthe human gay males brain was precisely like the womans brain with bigger cell formation so....the science wins...gay men are truly made up, mentally as a female, and I assume the same of the opposite sex...that woman who feel like men have the sort of Brain that man does.
How can anyone dispute the facts? God has made us this way correct? How then is God wrong?
Oh lets just say how wrong of a Creator/Divinity to create this type of human...you are blasphemers in my book.

If God were a ceramicist he would have these molds to pour..... perfect man....done.... perfect woman....check..... perfect gay man....complete.... perfect lesbian woman woman....check.....hermapharodite....check....imperfect male...check....imperfect female....check...grossly disabled human...check
Hummmmm....wonder GOD chose to create gays...ickky...especially the boy ones ...yuck!
I say grow up and get some friends who are gay... your GOD might then be able appreciate your vote of confidence in It's CREATION!

Gays are human and should definately be a part of Family Life...would you continue to always see Gods creations as some sort of accident and devients?

Your un-disiplined as religionists.

I am appalled. i want to thank all gay supporters in this thread. MUCH THANKS....LIFE is LIFE.
O' rant!

ANDYTAN · Post by **ANDYTAN** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:08 am

tikay wrote:
danyet wrote:Comming soon! POLYGAMY..........does anyone want to make a bet!!!

There are plenty of poligamists Danyet...I mean, aren't there?
Oh I think you may mean, for that to become the norm...is that the point you are making?

pls stop talking this topic..ok

tikay · Post by **tikay** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 9:09 am

I would almost agree but just look how ludacris that would be....after my five hour post...sorry...i get frustrated and more air comes out.

i want to shut-up but I cant.

Cucumber · Post by **Cucumber** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:08 pm

Cucumber! i cannot even believe that you are actually a guy, a man. You seemed like a girl to me...a woman, so maybe underneath all the masculine bravado, who knows?

Perhaps, it is in connecting with my experience in English. I can't express my ideas right. I learn English by writing the posts and i'm trying to catch your style of speaking. But i'm a "hard-teaching pupil" and i can't remember a lot. I'm learning English more than 1,5 years and have no any perceptible progress. But contacts with other members here bring me a good benefit for my training. I know only basic stock of words and i can't use the special expressions which is good understandig to you so my posts look like childish.

I'm a male, 47 old. :)

tikay · Post by **tikay** » Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:31 am

Oh hi Cucumber!
i was hoping after I submitted that ...that you wouldn't take it too offensively...take it as mean! It is nice to know your age and sexual orientation...and I am thinking you just complimented me after it all is said and done. how nice of you i love that....you are too kind!
i hope you will learn to speak better than I do! i am lazy and hardly use the best vocabulary when i am teasing and joking a whole lot in here. When i joined I was hoping to teach by writing so i am always a little aware to speak properly. thanks for noticing. I wanted to use shortcuts at times but I knew that wont benefit people who are learning to speak and write in English.

I have the flu so i am trying to get some reat...but I keep returning to the site to see whos is writing/talking to me!
Nice to know you better now friend.Thanks for sharing information on you!
Now I remember that when you joined i was expecting a girl from school to join and I thought you might be that person...that might be what mixed me up the most!

bye 4 Now!