istattack wrote:you are wrong.Turkey have to be in EU.becaese EU needs Turkey but doesn't need Russia.everybody knows that germany has racist feelings.remember *Ottoman*do u know about that??Ottoman was the most compassionate empire in the world...but now look at these countries..ı hope you will understand me ok.see you again...
feanor wrote:can u give me an example from history about an empire that is unwilling to expand its lands? and if ottoman was not compassionate, now more than half of the world would be muslim and speaking ottoman language.
LennyeTran wrote:You are twisting history right now. They LOST the fight and were forced to shrink their territory.
LennyeTran wrote:One example,
Until the late 19th century, the Armenians were referred to as millet-i sadika (loyal nation) by the Ottomans. However, unlike Muslim citizens, Armenians, Greeks, other Christians, Jews, and other minorities, were subject to laws which gave them fewer legal rights and they were subject to numerous limitations in legal rights in the empire: Armenians were barred from serving in the military (in its stead, forced to pay an exemption tax), their testimony in Islamic courts was inadmissible against Muslims, were not allowed to bear arms, were heavily taxed and treated overall as second-class citizens. As the largest minority present in the Ottoman Empire, Armenians were in effect, infidels in the eyes of Muslims, as described by British ethnographer William Ramsay: (copied)
Admiral wrote:I find it gosh Germans don't want turkeys to be in Germany because they have racist feelings towards turkeys. What Merkel said etc. only mirrors this great racist feeling.
Admiral wrote:Geografically and similarity spoken, I don't think turkey should go to EU, not because I am racist feeling, only because (if you look on the map) turkey rather belongs to Asia than to Europe.
If Russia is not Europe then Turkey shouldn't be Europe, neither.
wllsp wrote:I disagree. To me it means that Turkey is just not suitable right now for joining the EU. There are lots of unresolved problems surrounding this issue and it would be incorrect to narrow down all of them simply to racism.
A French historian became Turkish citizen.Did you ask yourself why???because;he coluld not stand these fable anymore.and these pictures which is about killed Armenians(!)were taken by Armenians.they are not Armenians.they are Turks!!!please don not believe everything.This is accepted by all the historians.see you byees
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