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Postby Pinay » Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:35 am

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illusion wrote: I love the one ''Demon and Miss Prym'' or something like that...


What makes you love that book? It was so boring for me... I can't understand your love :)

I have read several books by Paulo Cohelo and I don't find them very interesting. I don't think he deserves the success he has achieved in selling his books.
On the other hand, I find his work in non-literature based works very interesting. :wink:


I love the way he uses simplicity with words to illustrate the most profound truths in life. Take for example the "crystal shop owner' who dreams of going on a pilgrimage to Mecca but remains in his store from year to year. This from his cult classic "The Alchemist". Maybe you have to read Coelho again and deeply...this time.
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Postby pob » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:46 am

Pinay wrote:I love the way he uses simplicity with words to illustrate the most profound truths in life. Take for example the "crystal shop owner' who dreams of going on a pilgrimage to Mecca but remains in his store from year to year. This from his cult classic "The Alchemist". Maybe you have to read Coelho again and deeply...this time.


The most profound truths in life are not so profound, they are very simple, like life is.
You people make them profound by closing your eyes to them and so you need to read books like those by Coelho to open your eyes. :evil:

There is no deeply reading of Coelho, there is no deeply reading of our lives, everything is simple, you only have to open your eyes.

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Postby Pinay » Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:00 am

If you don't like Coelho, then you don't. But "People like you, blah... blah...blah.." is a sweeping statement isn't it? And a bit hostile? This wasn't an attack on you at all. It was meant to inspire a pleasant discussion. Or debate.
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Postby pob » Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:03 pm

Pinay wrote:If you don't like Coelho, then you don't. But "People like you, blah... blah...blah.." is a sweeping statement isn't it? And a bit hostile? This wasn't an attack on you at all. It was meant to inspire a pleasant discussion. Or debate.


I like Coelho, I don't like his books.

I haven't said "People like you, ..." but something different... but, oh, I remember you are not good at reading, so you find something to be read in Coelho's books :)

It was no hostile, but this time I allow myself to be a bit sarcastic :wink: don't get angry please.


You want to debate? Tell me why do you see truths so profound... why? Truths are so simple...

On the other hand you can love the way he expresses ideas by writting, and I can agree with you or accept that opinion since I don't care very much about stiles...
but please, is there any deeply reading?? You can find deeply readings in other writters, but in Coelho... please!! :lol:

If Coelho is for deeply reading, then we need a skin-diver suit to read books like, for instance, "Those spoke Zaratustra".


But on the other hand I'm open to debate, if I can participate... it was long time ago that I read Coelho's books... :?
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Postby Pinay » Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:54 am

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Pinay wrote:If you don't like Coelho, then you don't. But "People like you, blah... blah...blah.." is a sweeping statement isn't it? And a bit hostile? This wasn't an attack on you at all. It was meant to inspire a pleasant discussion. Or debate.


I like Coelho, I don't like his books.

I haven't said "People like you, ..." but something different... but, oh, I remember you are not good at reading, so you find something to be read in Coelho's books :)

It was no hostile, but this time I allow myself to be a bit sarcastic :wink: don't get angry please.


You want to debate? Tell me why do you see truths so profound... why? Truths are so simple...

On the other hand you can love the way he expresses ideas by writting, and I can agree with you or accept that opinion since I don't care very much about stiles...
but please, is there any deeply reading?? You can find deeply readings in other writters, but in Coelho... please!! :lol:

If Coelho is for deeply reading, then we need a skin-diver suit to read books like, for instance, "Those spoke Zaratustra".


But on the other hand I'm open to debate, if I can participate... it was long time ago that I read Coelho's books... :?



I'm not angry. I don't think I know you well enough to be angry. But I accept that you don't like his style and that's the end of it I guess. And I agree that truths are profound in their simplicity.
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Postby Pinay » Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:23 am

You want to debate? Tell me why do you see truths so profound... why? Truths are so simple...



I was thinking about this for some time and I couldn't resist throwing this in for you to think about. I'm Asian...and for every perception there is always a cultural imperative... so to an Asian nothing is ever so simple, even simplicity itself. Take for example how a westerner would view an introspective Asian... he would think "shy or timid", perhaps(simple isn't it?). But to an Asian there are different degrees of stillness. I'm explaining reading Coelho from the point of view of an Asian and not preaching to you. So fire your sarcastic missiles! Fuego!
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Postby Pinay » Tue Sep 20, 2005 6:27 am

If Coelho is for deeply reading, then we need a skin-diver suit to read books like, for instance, "Those spoke Zaratustra".


I laughed out loud at this though, you are sarcastic...but funny, I have to admit.
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Postby pob » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:52 pm

Pinay wrote: 1- I'm Asian...and for every perception there is always a cultural imperative...

2- Take for example how a westerner would view an introspective Asian...


1- I don't catch what do you mean, can you talk about that?

2- Nowadays, there is no so big difference between western people and Asian people... but still, that kind of topic is true many times.


I think a profound book could be for instance "Tao Te King". You can read it again and again, and reach different degrees of "understanding".
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Postby pob » Tue Sep 20, 2005 1:02 pm

Pinay wrote:1- I don't think I know you well enough to be angry.

2- I agree that truths are profound in their simplicity.


1-Do you mean if you knew me well you could get angry? :)
I hope you don't, it's interesting talking with you. :wink:


2- And they are simple in their depth :) It's always a game of how you focus your mind...
...and I'd like to add that many people are not used to focus their minds (less in Asia than here) and so I meant about these people and not about "people like you" :wink:
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Postby illusion » Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:15 pm

I think Coehlo is a controversial author because he has achieved success by writing stories about simple human feelings and that's so deep about him. not everyone can understand his books because they're not usual even if they speak about ordinary matters. I think I loved Demon and Miss Prym because of the topic of the book which was the constant fight between good and evil and in the end a human had to choose... The book had a huge impact on me and I am aware that many people find it boring whereas for me it's my favourite one by Paulo Coehlo. Anyway what I wanted to say is that I think he really deserves the whole popularity he has because there isn't any other novellist who writes so simply but so beautifully. it's a gift not everyone can have...

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Postby quicksilver » Sun Sep 25, 2005 3:31 am

I have just finished " Not a penny more , Not a penny less "
It is a very good novel , It is written by Jeffrey Acher.
U should read it , American novel.

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Postby Shazzam » Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:02 am

I have just finished "Let's Roll". This was a book written by the widow of one of the men involved in foiling the 9/11 flight that crashed in Pennslyvania. It was a very sad story. Her husband and other members of the flight were very brave people.

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Postby Pinay » Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:24 am

1- I don't catch what do you mean, can you talk about that?

2- Nowadays, there is no so big difference between western people and Asian people... but still, that kind of topic is true many times.


I think a profound book could be for instance "Tao Te King". You can read it again and again, and reach different degrees of "understanding".[/quote]

1. Well, here goes... get your missiles ready... In my humble opinion, an Asian would prioritize differently from the Westerner. A Westerner values 'drive', 'ambition', 'goals', 'achievements'... therefore he would prefer a book that gets to the bottom of things more quickly, without further ado. An Asian values 'balance' 'peace of mind' 'self-restraint' so he/she would prefer a book that meanders, something more introspective, something more quiet. Coelho would be a good read to an Asian because of the simple yet profound way he opens one's eyes to how we choose to live our lives. We would find it profound because being 'Asian" isn't simple at all. There are many layers to being Asian and the simple act of unveiling is a complicated to someone like me.

2. Come to Asia. Maybe you'll change your mind. Stay for a longer time until you are immersed. Then talk to me about how similar we are... or not.
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Postby Pinay » Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:28 am

[1-Do you mean if you knew me well you could get angry? :)
I hope you don't, it's interesting talking with you. :wink:


1. If you can be sarcastic on the net with your written words, and there is no mistaking the sarcasm and mockery in your writing tone. How much more in person?! If we were having coffee and arguing about Coelho at a coffee shop...Oh! We would be arguing for sure...but we wouldn't kill each other...we'd live to argue another day. Ha ha
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Postby Jail4bird » Tue Sep 27, 2005 6:30 pm

I've just read up to the end "The Canterbury Tales" by Chaucer. Unfortunately, not in the original...A starnge one thing, but rather attractive...

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Postby Dixie » Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:45 pm

Jail4bird wrote:I've just read up to the end "The Canterbury Tales" by Chaucer. Unfortunately, not in the original...A starnge one thing, but rather attractive...


A classic! I'd like to read it too. It's a must for any Philologist... Yeah, again... shame on me :roll: I know what topics the book deals with, when and by whom it was written, what it means... But haven't read it... :evil:

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Postby Jail4bird » Wed Sep 28, 2005 11:57 am

Dixie wrote:A classic! I'd like to read it too. It's a must for any Philologist... Yeah, again... shame on me :roll: I know what topics the book deals with, when and by whom it was written, what it means... But haven't read it... :evil:


Being a philologist myself i can agree, it's a must)) you should read)) It's worth...especailly in Old English :D

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Postby quicksilver » Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:54 am

I have just finished " Tradowata" it is from Poland . I dont know how to call it in English .
It is really nice .

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Postby danielle626 » Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:22 am

Over the summer I read Jane Eyre by Charlotte Bronte. Its a great book, well at least in my opinion. Its about a woman name Jane Eyre who had a missable childhood, but she strived and became a governess. Eventually she fell in love with Mr. Rochester her boss, who loved her too. There was a problem between them and so Jane left Mr. Rochester. She became poor again, but this book has a good ending so I encourage anyone to read it. It is an English literature, I think it would be great for anyone who likes romantic stories. This is my first time posting anything so Hi Everyone.

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Postby Dixie » Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:09 am

danielle626 wrote:Over the summer I read Jane Eyre by Charlotte Bronte. Its a great book, well at least in my opinion. Its about a woman name Jane Eyre who had a missable childhood, but she strived and became a governess. Eventually she fell in love with Mr. Rochester her boss, who loved her too. There was a problem between them and so Jane left Mr. Rochester. She became poor again, but this book has a good ending so I encourage anyone to read it. It is an English literature, I think it would be great for anyone who likes romantic stories. This is my first time posting anything so Hi Everyone.


I read it in college, really a classic. We studied its symbolism deeply and every now and then the professors referred to it. A jewel.

By the way, welcome Danielle26 ;)

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Postby quicksilver » Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:43 am

I also like Jane Eyre.
A romantic story with a happy ending.


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