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Postby Cypress » Wed Apr 12, 2006 7:44 am

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5. The master and Margarita- Mikail Bulgakov


It's nice to know that people from other countries are familiar with Russian literature :wink:

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Postby Cypress » Wed Apr 12, 2006 8:03 am

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Actually, change Nora Roberts to Amy Tan. I like Amy's books better.


Amy Tan, isn’t she an Asian woman who lives in San Francisco? I remember reading a few of her essays in my English class a couple years ago. I don’t remember the titles, but the essays were about immigrant experiences in America. I found them very interesting because I could make a comparison to my own life and my own experiences as an immigrant.

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Postby MissLT » Wed Apr 12, 2006 9:58 am

Cypress wrote:Amy Tan, isn’t she an Asian woman who lives in San Francisco? I remember reading a few of her essays in my English class a couple years ago. I don’t remember the titles, but the essays were about immigrant experiences in America. I found them very interesting because I could make a comparison to my own life and my own experiences as an immigrant.

Yeah, her stories are used to represent Asian-Americans in English classes in the States. She writes about how different it is to be raised in two cultures: Asian and American, how hard it is to identify as which one, etc. One of her famous stories is The Joy Luck Club. I think you've heard of it, right?

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Postby Cypress » Thu Apr 13, 2006 6:41 am

LennyeTran wrote:Yeah, her stories are used to represent Asian-Americans in English classes in the States. She writes about how different it is to be raised in two cultures: Asian and American, how hard it is to identify as which one, etc. One of her famous stories is The Joy Luck Club. I think you've heard of it, right?


I think they mentioned this story in her biography in my textbook. But I haven't read it :oops: Well, I added it to my "must be read" list :D Thank you

I got quite a few books on my list. Thank you guys for your replies. And I'm still waiting for more

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Postby hereiam » Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:09 am

you are talking about your favourite books while in the meantime...Mr Collins proposed to Elisabeth and wasn't specially discouraged with her decline. On the contrary he found it her momentary lack of reason. What a story! She refused and her mother wanted to throw her out of house cause she didn't want to pay for her any longer! Well... what an affair! Imagine what talks were being done in local... shrubberies. Elisabeth Bennet refused to Collins and Mr Bingley left for London - for 6 months probably! Only God knows what can happen in the meantime. Sisters didn't tell their mother about whole letter Jane had received. Wise sisters or not? Who can know it.
Read "Pride and Prejudice" - a fact literature:)

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Postby Ksju » Sat Apr 22, 2006 5:33 pm

Cypress wrote:Shame on me because I haven’t read any book by Dan Brown :oops:


Absolutely NOT!!! :shock:
There’s nothing special! Just usual boulevard novels. :roll:
It’s not great literature of great authors.

In most cases you’d better to spend you valuable time on books with little more thinking opportunities and life problems…

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Postby Cypress » Sun Apr 23, 2006 2:53 am

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Cypress wrote:Shame on me because I haven’t read any book by Dan Brown :oops:


Absolutely NOT!!! :shock:
There’s nothing special! Just usual boulevard novels. :roll:
It’s not great literature of great authors.

In most cases you’d better to spend you valuable time on books with little more thinking opportunities and life problems…


So far, all the people I talked to about Dan Brown’s books either liked them a lot or strongly disliked them. I think it might be a good idea to read at least one of them, so I can actually have my own opinion.

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Postby MissLT » Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:11 am

Cypress wrote:
I think they mentioned this story in her biography in my textbook. But I haven't read it :oops: Well, I added it to my "must be read" list :D Thank you

I got quite a few books on my list. Thank you guys for your replies. And I'm still waiting for more

Textbook? What book is that? I'm curious.

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Postby Ksju » Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:06 am

Cypress wrote:
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Cypress wrote:Shame on me because I haven’t read any book by Dan Brown :oops:


Absolutely NOT!!! :shock:
There’s nothing special! Just usual boulevard novels. :roll:
It’s not great literature of great authors.

In most cases you’d better to spend you valuable time on books with little more thinking opportunities and life problems…


So far, all the people I talked to about Dan Brown’s books either liked them a lot or strongly disliked them. I think it might be a good idea to read at least one of them, so I can actually have my own opinion.



:)
Liked them a lot or strongly disliked… Hmmm… (Maybe people who is not so exacting to literature – like it, those who prefer good, real literature dislike it…) :lol:
For me indeed it’s not so interesting to discuss it. Just to make clear myself…
I’m not really against this book! Of course you may read it of you have a free evening. I spent one – and not so bad…
I’m just talking that we should clearly understand what kind of literature it is. And if there wouldn’t spend so big money on promotion of the book and you wouldn’t see it on every corner I just simple forget about the book on the next day! Like every other book of the kind, any other street detective…
(By the way I must confess I received a little pleasure reading the book - if we still consider it as literature – there’re no characters, no normal idea, and language is very poor. From this point of view it’s really uninteresting.)
Resemble average middling Hollywood action, just running, firing and explosions and nothing more. But it’s better to watch smth like this than read I think.


Just only hope the movie will be a little bit better. (anyway as there will be Jan Reno)

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Postby Tora » Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:57 am

Ksju wrote:
Cypress wrote:
Ksju wrote:
Cypress wrote:Shame on me because I haven’t read any book by Dan Brown :oops:


Absolutely NOT!!! :shock:
There’s nothing special! Just usual boulevard novels. :roll:
It’s not great literature of great authors.

In most cases you’d better to spend you valuable time on books with little more thinking opportunities and life problems…


So far, all the people I talked to about Dan Brown’s books either liked them a lot or strongly disliked them. I think it might be a good idea to read at least one of them, so I can actually have my own opinion.



:)
Liked them a lot or strongly disliked… Hmmm… (Maybe people who is not so exacting to literature – like it, those who prefer good, real literature dislike it…) :lol:
For me indeed it’s not so interesting to discuss it. Just to make clear myself…
I’m not really against this book! Of course you may read it of you have a free evening. I spent one – and not so bad…
I’m just talking that we should clearly understand what kind of literature it is. And if there wouldn’t spend so big money on promotion of the book and you wouldn’t see it on every corner I just simple forget about the book on the next day! Like every other book of the kind, any other street detective…
(By the way I must confess I received a little pleasure reading the book - if we still consider it as literature – there’re no characters, no normal idea, and language is very poor. From this point of view it’s really uninteresting.)
Resemble average middling Hollywood action, just running, firing and explosions and nothing more. But it’s better to watch smth like this than read I think.


Just only hope the movie will be a little bit better. (anyway as there will be Jan Reno)


Well. Miss Prosecutor! :wink: The language is not so poor as you want it to be, english version is just amazing, i must say russian translation is poor! that's a big difference!

And about good-bad litarature... every one considers it from his own point of view... Sure there is no need to talk about Dostoevski, wether he is talented or not... it goes without saying!
talking about modern literature (excluding beloved russian detectives of course...) not every new releasing books is worth paying attention on it, but Dan Brown is among those writers that i would like to read (if i have a spare evening :wink: ). I don't care if he has stolen the plot! the book i read by him i liked... and nothing more...

by the way... here is another one crazy-on-Jan-Reno... :!: :roll: :wink:

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Postby Cypress » Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:28 am

LennyeTran wrote:Textbook? What book is that? I'm curious.


Sorry, can't help you with that. I took that class a while ago, and I always sell my textbooks the next day after the finals.

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Postby Cypress » Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:35 am

Tora wrote:
Ksju wrote:Liked them a lot or strongly disliked… Hmmm… (Maybe people who is not so exacting to literature – like it, those who prefer good, real literature dislike it…) :lol:
For me indeed it’s not so interesting to discuss it. Just to make clear myself…
I’m not really against this book! Of course you may read it of you have a free evening. I spent one – and not so bad…
I’m just talking that we should clearly understand what kind of literature it is. And if there wouldn’t spend so big money on promotion of the book and you wouldn’t see it on every corner I just simple forget about the book on the next day! Like every other book of the kind, any other street detective…
(By the way I must confess I received a little pleasure reading the book - if we still consider it as literature – there’re no characters, no normal idea, and language is very poor. From this point of view it’s really uninteresting.)
Resemble average middling Hollywood action, just running, firing and explosions and nothing more. But it’s better to watch smth like this than read I think.


Just only hope the movie will be a little bit better. (anyway as there will be Jan Reno)


Well. Miss Prosecutor! :wink: The language is not so poor...


Hmmm, somehow I though Ksju was a male. I don't know where I got that idea from

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Postby Tora » Fri Apr 28, 2006 1:55 pm

Cypress wrote:
Tora wrote:
Ksju wrote:Liked them a lot or strongly disliked… Hmmm… (Maybe people who is not so exacting to literature – like it, those who prefer good, real literature dislike it…) :lol:
For me indeed it’s not so interesting to discuss it. Just to make clear myself…
I’m not really against this book! Of course you may read it of you have a free evening. I spent one – and not so bad…
I’m just talking that we should clearly understand what kind of literature it is. And if there wouldn’t spend so big money on promotion of the book and you wouldn’t see it on every corner I just simple forget about the book on the next day! Like every other book of the kind, any other street detective…
(By the way I must confess I received a little pleasure reading the book - if we still consider it as literature – there’re no characters, no normal idea, and language is very poor. From this point of view it’s really uninteresting.)
Resemble average middling Hollywood action, just running, firing and explosions and nothing more. But it’s better to watch smth like this than read I think.


Just only hope the movie will be a little bit better. (anyway as there will be Jan Reno)


Well. Miss Prosecutor! :wink: The language is not so poor...


Hmmm, somehow I though Ksju was a male. I don't know where I got that idea from

then let Ksju tell us! i was sure she is SHE :roll: :wink:

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Postby Ksju » Mon May 01, 2006 7:20 pm

Tora wrote:
Cypress wrote:
Hmmm, somehow I though Ksju was a male. I don't know where I got that idea from

then let Ksju tell us! i was sure she is SHE :roll: :wink:



:!: I’m afraid I never was a male… :oops: (thanks God!!!) :!:
Hope you’re disappointed not very much… :lol:

And thanks Tora for being so far-sighted.

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Postby Ksju » Mon May 01, 2006 7:27 pm

Tora wrote:
Ksju wrote:
Cypress wrote:
Ksju wrote:
Cypress wrote:Shame on me because I haven’t read any book by Dan Brown :oops:


Absolutely NOT!!! :shock:
There’s nothing special! Just usual boulevard novels. :roll:
It’s not great literature of great authors.

In most cases you’d better to spend you valuable time on books with little more thinking opportunities and life problems…


So far, all the people I talked to about Dan Brown’s books either liked them a lot or strongly disliked them. I think it might be a good idea to read at least one of them, so I can actually have my own opinion.



:)
Liked them a lot or strongly disliked… Hmmm… (Maybe people who is not so exacting to literature – like it, those who prefer good, real literature dislike it…) :lol:
For me indeed it’s not so interesting to discuss it. Just to make clear myself…
I’m not really against this book! Of course you may read it of you have a free evening. I spent one – and not so bad…
I’m just talking that we should clearly understand what kind of literature it is. And if there wouldn’t spend so big money on promotion of the book and you wouldn’t see it on every corner I just simple forget about the book on the next day! Like every other book of the kind, any other street detective…
(By the way I must confess I received a little pleasure reading the book - if we still consider it as literature – there’re no characters, no normal idea, and language is very poor. From this point of view it’s really uninteresting.)
Resemble average middling Hollywood action, just running, firing and explosions and nothing more. But it’s better to watch smth like this than read I think.


Just only hope the movie will be a little bit better. (anyway as there will be Jan Reno)


Well. Miss Prosecutor! :wink: The language is not so poor as you want it to be, english version is just amazing, i must say russian translation is poor! that's a big difference!

And about good-bad litarature... every one considers it from his own point of view... Sure there is no need to talk about Dostoevski, wether he is talented or not... it goes without saying!
talking about modern literature (excluding beloved russian detectives of course...) not every new releasing books is worth paying attention on it, but Dan Brown is among those writers that i would like to read (if i have a spare evening :wink: ). I don't care if he has stolen the plot! the book i read by him i liked... and nothing more...

by the way... here is another one crazy-on-Jan-Reno... :!: :roll: :wink:


Miss Prosecutor..! :idea: Uuummm… I like it! (May I use it now as my second name??? Please…) :?:

Please don’t involve me in all this… !!! :shock: (But I’ve had some smiles reading Tora’s note)
Just… I know about translation, but still… I prefer bigger masters.
And I’m not talking about bad-good books if you still think so! And modern literature too…
Just usually real literature (like one of kinds of art) exists and just literature for the masses, popular literature. This poplit may be good and qualitative too but it always be a books for an evening and nothing more. One, two nice evenings – if book is a little bit qualitative and talented – but then in a week you simply forget this book. That’s all!

P.S. By the way Tora, as you may understand me, Don’t you think that maybe Akunin’s series about Fandorin as the same kind of literature is more artistic and better?

I’m not really crazy-on-Jan-Reno (interesting term)… :shock:
But he is smth special it’s true and a Frenchman too… :wink:

Thank you.
Miss Prosecutor.

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Postby Tora » Mon May 01, 2006 8:11 pm

i decided not to use quote as it would be toooo long to read!
sure you may! I have no lisence yet.

I read akunin and i don't like it pretty much! just one evening! i wonder how the authors write in a manner when you are not fascinated but still can't help reading... though you see it is not big writter... the same goes to akunin!
Please, Ksju, don't make me be involved in any kind of misconception between! I see that i'm not speaking properly about my tastes but keep judging others... forgive me if i said something wrong or ... i don't know...

The fact is Jan Reno is spanish! amazing! it doubles my admiration!!! 8)

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Postby Ksju » Thu May 04, 2006 7:56 am

Tora wrote:I read akunin and i don't like it pretty much! just one evening! i wonder how the authors write in a manner when you are not fascinated but still can't help reading... though you see it is not big writter... the same goes to akunin!
Please, Ksju, don't make me be involved in any kind of misconception between! I see that i'm not speaking properly about my tastes but keep judging others... forgive me if i said something wrong or ... i don't know...

The fact is Jan Reno is spanish! amazing! it doubles my admiration!!! 8)


Indeed, I absolutely didn’t try to involve smb in smth! :? (And one of the reasons is my language is not good enough …) And of course I have no any offences on you or smb else. I as you just try to make clear my thoughts on a topic…

Jan Reno… Spanish… (no matter indeed… still… veryveryvery cute) :roll:
But I read that he was born in Morocco (not Spain and not France). But it’s really no matter!
And you call me “another one crazy-on-Jan-Reno”… You see I’m too ill-informed to be another… :wink:

And, yes, as for Akunin, I’m not his fan. Just I think his works are more good-made from artistic positions.

Miss Prosecutor. :!:

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Postby Cypress » Sat May 06, 2006 6:37 pm

Ksju wrote::!: I’m afraid I never was a male… :oops: (thanks God!!!) :!:
Hope you’re disappointed not very much… :lol:

And thanks Tora for being so far-sighted.


My bad. I hope I didn't not offend you or anything

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Postby MissLT » Fri May 12, 2006 10:09 pm

Ksju wrote: :)
Liked them a lot or strongly disliked… Hmmm… (Maybe people who is not so exacting to literature – like it, those who prefer good, real literature dislike it…) :lol:
For me indeed it’s not so interesting to discuss it. Just to make clear myself…
I’m not really against this book! Of course you may read it of you have a free evening. I spent one – and not so bad…
I’m just talking that we should clearly understand what kind of literature it is. And if there wouldn’t spend so big money on promotion of the book and you wouldn’t see it on every corner I just simple forget about the book on the next day! Like every other book of the kind, any other street detective…
(By the way I must confess I received a little pleasure reading the book - if we still consider it as literature – there’re no characters, no normal idea, and language is very poor. From this point of view it’s really uninteresting.)
Resemble average middling Hollywood action, just running, firing and explosions and nothing more. But it’s better to watch smth like this than read I think.


Just only hope the movie will be a little bit better. (anyway as there will be Jan Reno)

I liked the beginning, but when it came to the end I was really disappointed. To me he was trying to put everything in for a rush end or a cheesy, Hollywood end.

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Postby andrea » Sun May 28, 2006 8:03 pm

Hi everybody

re-entered and visited the club after a bit long while, and I found this thread which I would like to reply to.

As I write I try to list in my mind the five books I would recommend, or better, I was impressed through.

1 - The Scarlet Letter (Nathaniel Hawthorne)
2 - La Nausée (Jean Paul Sartre)
3 - The Red Badge of Courage (Stephen Crane)
4 - Animal Farm (George Orwell)
5 - America, Der Prozess, Das Schloss (Franz Kafka) *

* sorry but I can't separate any part of Kafkas trilogy, and it fascinated me too much.. I had to list the whole of it.. :?

A big ciao

Andrea :)

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Postby Cypress » Mon May 29, 2006 3:59 pm

Hi Andrea! Thanks for your post reply. I appreciate it :D :D :D


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