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Postby tikay » Sat Jan 14, 2006 4:45 am

A really good point. The subconcious is a big part of what I was trying to get at, it is the veil of illusion/maya...if that veil is stripped away by methods of soul work and enlightenment techniques, healing and meditation work for instance, one gets tuned in to other levels of the consiousness such as a waking dream.
I was living in the waking dream (so that is a good analogy) my illusions of the one reality we usually inhabit became these (stranger than fiction) other systems of how things do actually work underneath the actual life we like to stay comfortable in.
When a holy person has told one take off the blinders that keep you stuck in that dull reality....I have seen the things that they are talking of.
This does not qualify me as a sage or a prophet, but no one can rob me of the knowledge gained and tell me that is was not a reality....it is a different reality thats all.

Ever see a person having a battle with the clouds....they see something that is really there....it is there on another track...they are tapped in to another level... one should be ever so nice to these fellows, for they may be fighting the battle for you and me, having picked up the ball.... esoteric dance of the ages, and they may be exactly where I was and they may be very important people on a whole other level. of reality
(it gave me a deeper understanding of the Christian concept of any man even the lowliest human could be Jesus...so be good to them).
When I was young I did study the scriptures of the Bible...then I began to study other religions. Maybe that is why my alternate reality was so about the spiritual life, and the battle of good and evil. (which is going on at a subtler level at all times) along with cosmic mischef of all sorts.
I know because I was in it.
Calling me a ~ prophet (wanna be) was not right D.

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Postby Desislava » Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:43 am

Ok Golfygirl...next time when you dream that you can fly, and you really have learnt to fly in your dream, please jump off the nearest building to try your knowledge and new abilities.

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Postby Desislava » Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:06 am

"LSD is considered an entheogen because it often catalyzes intense spiritual experiences where users feel they have come into contact with a greater spiritual or cosmic order. It is common for users to believe that they have achieved insights into the way the mind works and some users experience permanent or long-lasting changes in their life perspective. Some users consider LSD a religious sacrament, or a powerful tool for access to the divine. Many books have been written comparing the LSD trip to the state of enlightenment of eastern philosophy.

Such experiences under the influence of LSD have been observed and documented by researchers such as Timothy Leary and Stanislav Grof. A brief video documentary of the Good Friday Marsh Chapel Experiment conducted by Walter Pahnke under Leary's supervision (a double blind experiment using volunteers who were students in religious graduate programs, e.g., divinity, theology, etc.) can be viewed here. That study showed that hallucinogens could reliably be used to induce mystical religious states (at least in people with a spiritual predisposition)."
So..this is an extract from Wikipedia. You described such an experience, but please note the last words (that I've boldened). As you have filled your head with all these religious concepts and theories, it's only natural for them to come out in the state you were. Just like in dreams your visions are based on everyday experience, and since yours is reading about religion and other sort of mystics...look at the consequences.
Our discussion is something done for ages, religion vs science, and since even Galileo couldn't prove his rightness against the great followers of God, who am I to argue. :roll:

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Postby Golfygirl » Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:19 pm

Desislava wrote:Ok Golfygirl...next time when you dream that you can fly, and you really have learnt to fly in your dream, please jump off the nearest building to try your knowledge and new abilities.


I am drug and alcohol free--thank the good lord for that!
I am not under any allusions about being able to jump safely off a building--thank you very much. :)

Have you ever known a person with skitsophrenia? Or Bipolar mental disorder?

Those individuals are highly intelligent humanbeings. I wonder about people like that. They can retain so much information also. They are very extordinary people if you ask me. They are also kind of like animals in a way that they have a 6th sense. Animals, take dogs for example, know a bad person when they see them. Ever notice how a dog will just bark and bark at some people and will not bark at other people? Well, that is a 6th sense for them.

I believe all humanbeings have "some" of the same abilities as animals. The only difference is, some of us humanbeings stop listening to our inner instincts/sources.

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Postby Desislava » Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:45 pm

The thing I said was an example. To show you that dreams are not real, and some things that happen in them are just not possible - they're only a product of our mind.
I could not really get the point about the 6th sense. Perhaps you wanted to say that I am evil? Yet it seems that dogs do not support your opinion, because the only thing they do is shake their tales when I'm near them. :wink:

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Postby Admiral » Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:34 pm

Yes you are right. Being realistic is always good.
“Show me the heart unfettered by foolish dreams. And I’ll show you a happy man.” (Tennyson)

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On science vs. religous

Postby tikay » Sat Jan 14, 2006 9:04 pm

The very idea of science versus religeon is old thinking...watch the documentary/movie on this titled "What the bleep do we know" for a look into how they are getting into more and more actual agreements on how things work. It is science this religious thinking it is a dynamic flow of information about the laws of this universe. They include not exclude the spiritual honey. It is a spiritual world if you dont like it why dont you at least leave alone people who appreciate that
In other words insted of being mean and cruel to my pal Golfygirl (suggesting she kill herself) come on!
try looking up more than a definition of acid, geez.
you are good at poetry maybe you should write more of that...where we come from we are taught to be respectful but only until someone treats us with that kind of disrespect!
It was another low blow...do you really even believe the things you say are true...about being scientific over the spiritual?
Or do you just want a good battle?

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Postby Golfygirl » Sun Jan 15, 2006 1:22 am

Desislava wrote:The thing I said was an example. To show you that dreams are not real, and some things that happen in them are just not possible - they're only a product of our mind.
I could not really get the point about the 6th sense. Perhaps you wanted to say that I am evil? Yet it seems that dogs do not support your opinion, because the only thing they do is shake their tales when I'm near them. :wink:


I am not saying you are evil. I am saying that we all have internal instincts/intuitions. Some of us are able to tap into those internal instincts/intuitions. Some of us are willing to admit that internal instincts/intuitions exsist in all of us.

I'm sorry for not answering sooner but I had to go fill out paper work for a brand new 3rd job.

I have another question for you Desislava. What does it mean when the dogs wag their tail as a result of being in your presence?

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Postby Golfygirl » Sun Jan 15, 2006 2:29 am

Admiral wrote:Yes you are right. Being realistic is always good.
“Show me the heart unfettered by foolish dreams. And I’ll show you a happy man.” (Tennyson)


A really good book to read is called "One". Its written by Richard Bach. Have any of ya'll read that book?

Love the pink lipstick Tikay. I am plain and simple. No make up. No hairspray--just plain and simple is me :)

My husband says he's square. He also says he's dull. My husband is contrary in a lot of ways to what he says. :lol:

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Postby Desislava » Sun Jan 15, 2006 7:30 am

But Golfygirl...you got me a little confused. We were talking about...ahmm...tikay's adventures...and now you changed it to this intuition and stuff. I do not deny their presence, and you're right that some people feel it more or less, and sometimes listen to it or don't. But I suppose that's something left by the evolution :wink: Being a monkey in the jungle wouldn't be easy..with all those huge animals looking to eat you...not that we don't live in the same jungle today, only called civilisation :P
I personally have a really strong intuition. :lol: For example, today I made some coffee and took my favourite black cup..to pour some in it..and I knew that somehow I will break it this morning and I unconsciously dropped it :!: Oh..or perhaps I was just so busy thinking that I will break it that I forgot that I was holding it :?:
Anyway, it was a great cup :(

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Postby Desislava » Sun Jan 15, 2006 7:45 am

Hah tikay..you say I am mean and disrespectful? :lol:
I really am patient in this conversation. And I have no bad feeling towards Golfygirl...oh,no. She is really sweet and believes in her words. Which I really appreciate, and I am sure that she's a good person.
By saying that she should jump I showed you an example, but it seems that you couldn't get it? Try not reading through the lines, but understand the whole.
And I have my spiritual part, but I don't find it overwhelming. I have my concepts and believes but I don't think that my life depends on something different than my own right decisions. It is easier to believe that your good angel will come and save you, but I am not willing to wait for him.
If you really believe your fantasies, then do it. That is your problem. I just wanted to show you that you should think more about it before proclaiming it to the world. Because you risk to be thought for mentally ill.
And your friend Golfygirl is right..simpleness in the make-up is better.

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Postby Desislava » Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:04 am

Ahmmm..and as to your accuse that I am in for a battle..Not really, my intentions were so peaceful and good, and also I was just discussing a topic....which you made rather personal. And this does not fit with my general idea of a conversation, because I would not like to get involved in mean allusions...so.. I think we should end this discussion before someone starts hissing. :wink: I think that both sides have something to think about. I learnt from you, I hope you think the same towards my words. Peace :lol:

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Postby Golfygirl » Sun Jan 15, 2006 12:25 pm

Desislava wrote:But Golfygirl...you got me a little confused. We were talking about...ahmm...tikay's adventures...and now you changed it to this intuition and stuff. I do not deny their presence, and you're right that some people feel it more or less, and sometimes listen to it or don't. But I suppose that's something left by the evolution :wink: Being a monkey in the jungle wouldn't be easy..with all those huge animals looking to eat you...not that we don't live in the same jungle today, only called civilisation :P
I personally have a really strong intuition. :lol: For example, today I made some coffee and took my favourite black cup..to pour some in it..and I knew that somehow I will break it this morning and I unconsciously dropped it :!: Oh..or perhaps I was just so busy thinking that I will break it that I forgot that I was holding it :?:
Anyway, it was a great cup :(


Truce!! :) Your right, I did change the subject somewhat. Bottom line here is--mind and body. How to commit suicide.
Some people commit suicide unconsciously due to being on LSD or some other drug. Some people commit suicide on purpose without being on drugs. Our minds can certainly play tricks on us sometimes if we're on drugs or if we're not on drugs. God knew me long before I was ever conceived. Humanbeings come from humanbeings. Thats all I'm adding to this topic. Have a nice day. :) See you in another forum.
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Hi golfygirl

Postby tikay » Sun Jan 15, 2006 11:34 pm

The lipstick is my photo program coloring of course over the black and white face and the blue eyes too. The sense of humor on my face is what I wanted to show but it needed some color! I cant stand my pictures antmore because i am looking a bit old...but I do like the streak. i think looking at myself in here is bugging me too much so I am going to add different art pics every so often now...
as for Desislava... I found myself getting nervous about what you might have said when I saw the e-mail for this post. I dont want to get that feeling when i am trying to enjoy myself in here. All i want to say is you have a right to your opinion too. Hope there are no hard feelings and maybe there is a cultural misunderstanding going on . No big deal right? I love your poetry and didn't mean to put you down, but I probably did. So I am sorry about that.
Dont worry about me, I am still willing to talk to you anytime.
Golfygirl I think she was saying the dogs like her that's all, wagging their tails happily...am I right Desislava?

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Re: Hi golfygirl

Postby Golfygirl » Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:11 am

tikay wrote:The lipstick is my photo program coloring of course over the black and white face and the blue eyes too. The sense of humor on my face is what I wanted to show but it needed some color! I cant stand my pictures antmore because i am looking a bit old...but I do like the streak. i think looking at myself in here is bugging me too much so I am going to add different art pics every so often now...
as for Desislava... I found myself getting nervous about what you might have said when I saw the e-mail for this post. I dont want to get that feeling when i am trying to enjoy myself in here. All i want to say is you have a right to your opinion too. Hope there are no hard feelings and maybe there is a cultural misunderstanding going on . No big deal right? I love your poetry and didn't mean to put you down, but I probably did. So I am sorry about that.
Dont worry about me, I am still willing to talk to you anytime.
Golfygirl I think she was saying the dogs like her that's all, wagging their tails happily...am I right Desislava?


Everything is ok with me. I am really a whimp when it comes to trouble. Unless I get really fed up. Mostly, I try to avoid trouble. I only asked the question about the dogs wagging their tail to appear as though I was getting even. I figured if I didn't say something negative, people might start feeling sorry for me and I didn't want that.

I don't want any negatives from this website either. I started coming here to learn. Hey, I am 42 years old and sometimes that little girl thats still in me comes out. I admit I have said childish things.

I sorry too. Desislava, congradulations on winning the nicest post of the month. I think its good writing.

I respect you..ok? :)

Tikay, you are special. :)

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Re: Hi golfygirl

Postby tikay » Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:12 am

tikay wrote:I cant stand my pictures anymore because i am looking a bit old...but I do like the streak. i think looking at myself in here is bugging me too much so I am going to add different art pics every so often now...


There are so many better things to look at than my goofy face so I will be uploading some art from now on and if someone wants to see a good shot of me check out the amazon.com profile on me. And check out my quides for books to read and music I like and such in there...just put T.K. Faleofa in the search box. ALOHA.

PS>
That conversation was too heavy for just having fun so....I believe that I am to blame. I should have known that I would offend people when I said that there was humor in everything...when you are tired of crying about it all. I hope we will all benefit from the good outcome. That we were in the end civil. Bye 4 now.

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Postby Desislava » Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:40 pm

...and they lived happily ever after... :lol:


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