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first photo, then painting

Postby LadyMacbeth » Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:46 pm

Hi!

What do you think about painters who first make photo and then paint. Is it OK in your opinion? Should painting be a creative idea of existing reality or something more-something else? Does it make sense to show the exact reality that I am painting?
Your opinions, please.

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Re: first photo, then painting

Postby Josef » Mon May 03, 2010 6:54 am

Photography IS painting - painting with light.

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Re: first photo, then painting

Postby Vega » Mon May 03, 2010 6:34 pm

LadyMacbeth wrote:What do you think about painters who first make photo and then paint. Is it OK in your opinion?


Like in anywhere, this is a trend or a technique of painting I suppose. For instance a music, some musicians play on the instruments while others, more club oriented, create sounds by means of diverse softwares, plug-ins etc. .by pressing keys on the keyboard and mouse,..Even my grandfather could compose such music. :-)

LadyMacbeth wrote:Should painting be a creative idea of existing reality or something more-something else? Does it make sense to show the exact reality that I am painting?


You might have heard of Surrealism, a trend in the art of painting which differs from other trends by its inconsistency, absurdity, and which is a combination of dream and reality.

An example of surrealistic picture (Salvador Dali): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/e/e1/Dali.jpg

Nowadays, you can see everything in the art of painting. :-)

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Re: first photo, then painting

Postby LadyMacbeth » Mon May 03, 2010 8:28 pm

Hi,
Photography IS painting - painting with light.


Well... when you can paint - you know what are saying. I cannot paint/draw well.
Thus what can I say then about photographying? Painting? :roll:
It is making a dokument to me. I mean - a photo = an evidence.
That's all. Of course the evidence/the proof can be better or worse.
Depending on the light and many other effects/tricks.
I don't know...

You might have heard of Surrealism, a trend in the art of painting which differs from other trends by its inconsistency, absurdity, and which is a combination of dream and reality.


I cannot say that I can understand surrealism. I think it is about PHILOSOPHY.
It is a painted philosophy to me. It is about - what do I think about reality?
What can I see? Such things in my opinion.
Well... am I sober at this moment? I don't know. :roll:

ps. Xkalibur - what do you think about immpresionism/expressionism? It is the same -
a philosophy used to ...paint in a very specific way.

I think it works like THAT though I am any art specialist at this moment.

LM.

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Re: first photo, then painting

Postby Vega » Tue May 04, 2010 6:49 pm

LadyMacbeth wrote:ps. Xkalibur - what do you think about immpresionism/expressionism? It is the same -
a philosophy used to ...paint in a very specific way.


Impressionism in simple words is an impression, or a moment from life experience, it does not contain a deliberation, it simply transfers impressions from seen, while Expressionism transfers strong inner emotions through imagination. I presume you also have heard these terms in literature.

People often mix up Impressionism/ Expressionism with Surrealism.

P.S.
Have you ever seen the picture of black square by Kazimierz Malewicz ? This is Expressionism.

LadyMacbeth wrote:..and many other effects/tricks.


I presume you mean pixels in the camera. :lol: :-)

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Re: first photo, then painting

Postby LadyMacbeth » Wed May 05, 2010 7:53 pm

Hi here,

Have you ever seen the picture of black square by Kazimierz Malewicz ? This is Expressionism.


Yes , I have seen it. There are plenty of pictures like that. I can also draw something like that. Both impressionism and expressionism are my favourite art-styles. Though
I am not sure why Black square is expressive? Is it?

Anyway my other number one hit art styles are CUBISM and - even better - SYMBOLISM, you know? When you cannot give any idea what you want to show give a symbol of it. It is the best idea how to make a portrait of reality when you cannot portrait it in fact. Why? For example no skills at all. Then your art is a symbol itself - of you first and then of your hopelessness in the field of art. It also becomes of symbol of your lack of skills that is the symbol above all other symbols.

I also want to write that in my opinion CUBISM is an art-style that was invented first. I think primitive artists must have been cubists. And this style revived somehow in the XXth century. I think that when cubism appeared the circle of human art have been closed - it came back into very beginnings of it. Why? Cause I think before making your picture dark and light you have to put lines. You are making shapes before you are making them dark or light.
And first human art was art of lines - it was first cubism I think.

Though I am not sure of course. I am any art specialist.

LM

PS. Do you draw well?
PS. What style are Don Schaeffer's pictures? I think he is a symbolist and
an expressionist. I would like to see some of his pictures in impressionistic and cubistic style. I think that it should be interesting. :roll:

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Re: first photo, then painting

Postby Vega » Wed May 12, 2010 2:50 pm

LadyMacbeth wrote:PS. Do you draw well?


Only engineering drawings with AutoCAD. :-)

LadyMacbeth wrote:PS. What style are Don Schaeffer's pictures? I think he is a symbolist and an expressionist. I would like to see some of his pictures in impressionistic and cubistic style. I think that it should be interesting. :roll:


I've never heard of him..I am not expert, I simply read occasionally here and there.

Do you also draw?


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