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International Communication. Why English?

Post by TalkingPoint » Tue Aug 05, 2003 4:39 pm

Do you think that English is the best choice for an international language? Why? Why not?
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Post by birrel » Wed Aug 06, 2003 4:02 pm

Hi all,

I don't think that English is the best choice for an international language. Indeed, there is no alive language which meets this purpose, since languages are divided in dialects and every dialect has its own forms of pronunciation, vocabulary, slang, etc... I know that there are some fields which need a unique language, for instance business, and in this case English takes on this role. However, mostly this English is too simplified as well as fractured, very far from the native speakers's.

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English is one of the Choices.

Post by kathy » Thu Aug 28, 2003 9:37 am

I think English is widely spoken nowadays that's for sure but it doesn't have to be the only tool for people to communicate. If you have a penpal from another country which might inspire you to talk to your friend in his or her language. That is more funny.
I'm a native Chinese and Chinese is the language becoming more and more important. Chinese has the largest spokers in fact!
If you like I can help you with that!
A sincere person,
Kathy

hang

Post by hang » Wed Oct 08, 2003 10:47 am

in my opinion ,english isnot a best choice .because in the word there are many another language .english is a language very popular in many nations.

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Post by Guest » Fri Oct 17, 2003 9:13 am

Just a guy wrote:I don’t think the choice is ours to make personally so we’ll have to just go along with whatever choice the world community makes.
It's true, except for those places where English was imposed by the British Empire.

We cannot choice our mother tongue, therefore we cannot choose the international language. We have to accept it, we like it or not. But we have to realize that English is a language which is basically led by two countries, the US and the UK, and the rest of the English speaking countries, like Ireland or African countries, are considered as "inferior" speakers whose English does have no prestige. Many people in Singapore learn British or American version of English since Singaporean English is absolutely disdained. If this one happens to native speakers, I am sure it will be worse for non-native speakers.

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internationnal communication why english

Post by moi » Mon Oct 20, 2003 12:26 pm

Hello everyone,

:evil: I know english is the most popular language.
It's in this aims, I learn english.
But the human had created some (artificial) language, the most known is 'experanto'.
I think, its utilisation must be easier, and more equality between all the nation.
Bye.

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Post by Guest » Tue Oct 21, 2003 12:59 pm

HI

:D Who says that people from other countries like Ireland and Wales are seen as having an inferior english.What a load of rubbish, being Welsh I have never had any problems in America or England, rather the opposite in fact, people prefer the accent and the vocab. GET A LIFE.
Anonymous wrote:
Just a guy wrote:I don’t think the choice is ours to make personally so we’ll have to just go along with whatever choice the world community makes.
It's true, except for those places where English was imposed by the British Empire.

We cannot choice our mother tongue, therefore we cannot choose the international language. We have to accept it, we like it or not. But we have to realize that English is a language which is basically led by two countries, the US and the UK, and the rest of the English speaking countries, like Ireland or African countries, are considered as "inferior" speakers whose English does have no prestige. Many people in Singapore learn British or American version of English since Singaporean English is absolutely disdained. If this one happens to native speakers, I am sure it will be worse for non-native speakers.

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Post by French Guy » Tue Oct 21, 2003 1:03 pm

:( , I would prefer that the french language became the most popular language around the world, because I'm a french guy and it's easier for me to speak french.
But I understand that english speaking is today the most wide-spread for several reasons.
During the last four centuries the UK was the first colonial country, therefore the english language is now known by practically all the big nations. It's why it's a wise solution to approve the english language as the most popular.

(his teacher says)
However it should be remembered that at the time that the british empire was expanding so too was the french. It was perhaps only by the luck of history(France not wanting to push for colonies in india, france pulling out of america, they made perhaps not the best choice by concentrating on Africa, and of course Napoleon losing at Waterloo) that we go to McDanalds and order a Big Mac. It could so nearly have been La Grande Mac.
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Post by costadina » Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:21 pm

:!: I believe that when the time came for countries to decide on an international language, Engllish was chosen . It was something that was voted on, not forced upon us. If English was chosen, it was probably because either the English speaking countries had more influence, or "power" , or just that it was a language that was already widely used anyways.

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Post by serviceboy » Sat Oct 25, 2003 12:14 pm

I do hate English,for it does not strictly change its form as French does.
I always misspell some words.French, in my opition is the best language in the world. Why so many people nowadys have to learn English? NOt for England is rich,but for America is rich.

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Post by serviceboy » Sat Oct 25, 2003 12:28 pm

Hi everyone
I do think English is the best choice for international comunication because so many people around the world are using English as a tool of communication,and me is included.I learn English as my a tool of getting more and more knowledge .I find English is very good. There are so many English films,books and newspaper, even the Internet are using English mostly.

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International communication. Why English?

Post by rosett76 » Fri Oct 31, 2003 5:59 am

Hello all,

I know english is widely used nowadays. We can see it everywhere in the Internet, labels of each product, bussiness correspondence...

I think it can be international communication because of its simple and widely use already. We don’t have to pay much to teach people and to create another.
How about love, can we use it? No, there are many melodie languages like Italia, french.... In this aspect, native languages cannot be replaced. Being vietnamese, i like my tongue very much. If you want to try, i am very happy to help.

Write to me: hong_tt@hotmail.com

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    Re: International Communication. Why English?

    Post by eclub777 » Fri Oct 31, 2003 8:14 am

    [quote="Talking Point"]International Communication. Why English?

    Hi all,
    I don't think that English is the best choice for an international language. But may be English the most reasonable language all of us can use more easier than other languages. English is language of business. Learning English is, in my opinion, is easier than other languges (eg: French).
    But, I love my mother tounge language and try to learn English to use it to communica with people from other cultures.
    Mai

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    Post by Guest » Sat Nov 01, 2003 9:19 am

    To me, French is easier than English, since I am French :)

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    Post by Guest » Sat Nov 01, 2003 9:13 pm

    birrel wrote:Hi all,

    I don't think that English is the best choice for an international language. Indeed, there is no alive language which meets this purpose, since languages are divided in dialects and every dialect has its own forms of pronunciation, vocabulary, slang, etc... I know that there are some fields which need a unique language, for instance business, and in this case English takes on this role. However, mostly this English is too simplified as well as fractured, very far from the native speakers's.

    Cheers

    eclub777

    why?

    Post by eclub777 » Wed Nov 05, 2003 6:46 am

    In my viewpoint, why chose english because the historical reason, we can't change it. But I believe that if one country's GDF is higher than US & UK, so english will be substituted.

    eclub777

    Post by eclub777 » Wed Nov 05, 2003 6:49 am

    make corrections: it's "GDP". I'm typed error letter "GDF".

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    Post by Guest » Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:51 am

    Hi mates.
    i am really confused about the language we speak now, except ypur mother language.So, everybody know that what is it ,yeah/ Definitely, English. If anyone can tell me why we should not get speak English as a second language, i will tell you the contract 8)

    sahar

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    Post by sahar » Thu Nov 13, 2003 10:02 am

    serviceboy wrote:Hi everyone
    I do think English is the best choice for international comunication because so many people around the world are using English as a tool of communication,and me is included.I learn English as my a tool of getting more and more knowledge .I find English is very good. There are so many English films,books and newspaper, even the Internet are using English mostly.
    :lol: :D :o :P :) :wink: :? :( :cry: :x :roll: :shock: 8)

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    Post by Guest » Wed Nov 19, 2003 11:00 am

    Why not? :?:

    A french girl

    Why English ?

    Post by A french girl » Wed Nov 26, 2003 12:15 pm

    :D Hello everybody!
    I live in "la Réunion" ( it's an island in the Indian ocean) and I personally think that everyone should learn english because it's an intenational language very used in all the World. But I learn german and spanish too and I think that we should learn other languages as english too because we can't forget that there are a lot of languages spoken in the World for exemple chinese which should be very useful ! So the good solution consists in learning the most of languages that we can do !
    I'm sorry if I've done mistakes because I don't speak english very well but I hope that you see more or less what I mean...

    :) Goodbye :)

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    Post by moi_la_debile » Sat Nov 29, 2003 4:41 pm

    hahahahaha

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    International Communication. Why English?

    Post by galina » Mon Dec 01, 2003 6:51 am

    English is known in most countries in the world. And, it difficult to imagine what else language can impose the role of the multinational one.
    Majority of people are most likely to learn English as yeh most popuilar language. I think there is no alternative for English.

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    Post by Guest » Wed Dec 03, 2003 3:28 pm

    English will be defeated sooner or later :twisted: :evil:

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    Post by Pirate » Tue Feb 03, 2004 6:58 pm

    International communication with English? YES if you are talking about sharing a second language. All nations will absolutely keep their own languages alive and growing FOREVER:!:

    English has some couples of advantages to be chosen as the language for communicating between people around the world. It already has a great number of speakers, not only native speakers from Britain, USA, Australia, New Zealand or Singapore. There are also many countries where English is one of their official languages like India, Pakistan, South Africa or Canada. Because of that foundation, more and more people are learning English. Further more, all the newest discoveries together with new terms and concepts are described and propagated in English, whereas the human's biggest and most widely used library, also the most convenient source of information -the internet- is mainly in English.

    Yes, some opinions are very right to show one reason that England and the USA are two of the world's leading developed countries and obviously they have sweeping affection on others. I don't think their economy -which is considered the most important spearhead of a country- can easily go down in the future.

    But i don't totally agree with the historical reason written above which gave the English language its present standing in the world today. English used to be forced to learn in the settlements of British and American empires. So do you remember the countries that had to fight for their independence including the freedom to speak our own language? Let's take an example with my country Vietnam. Depending on our well-known history with many struggles against big evaders, we have some generations with fluency in Chinese and French. Many old Vietnamese also know Russian very well because of our good relationship with Russia. BUT nowadays, young people CHOOSE ENGLISH. I don't deny that maybe the reason is that English is taught here for small pupils. But youngsters can easily choose another languages because they are attractive and sound better than English such as French, Spanish, Italian or even complicated Japanese. Actually the young people do that. The fact is still the same : English is used most :!:

    So why should we choose English? In my opinion, English is easier than quite a lot other languages for all of us to learn. For example the conjugation is simpler than French and it doesn't have feminine and masculine words. It is also being simplified to be even more simpler. Many words can be used with different functions (verb, noun, adj, adv...) in the unique form. Anyway it is still a natural language so it is more beautiful than artificial ones like Esperanto which is actually less complicated.

    If you still don't like or don't know why so many people learning English, :idea: :arrow: plz visit LEARNING ENGLISH forum to see how actively the world is learning this cool language. :wink:

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    Post by birrel » Thu Feb 05, 2004 11:23 am

    "For example the conjugation is simpler than French and it doesn't have feminine and masculine words. It is also being simplified to be even more simpler."

    As a Spanish-speaker, Italian is much easier than English for me. Moreover, there are lot of languages, like Japanese, which has no genders and conjugation at all.

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    Post by kino » Sat Mar 06, 2004 6:38 am

    from my point of view, English is comparatively easier to learn.
    And also, because of the economic and political powerfulness of British Nation in the past, this language had been brought to the world, so we may say language/culture can only be wheeled by power(economic/cultural/political,etc)
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    Post by kino » Sat Mar 06, 2004 6:41 am

    so we may say, language is imposed by powerfulness
    live to suffer, live to endure

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    why English is international language?

    Post by mona » Thu Mar 11, 2004 1:50 pm

    [b]Am an Arabic ..and studdied English but i guess that there are so many reasons to justufy why english is the chosen language to be spread over the world and as the international language ..its so roouted case..we cant limit it within lines ..its due to Early occupation and demonation by the British Impire ..which imposed the English language over all occupied countries ..Simply coz its the language of power now ..and where as power then there is aids for this power ..now its language ..but its a good language any way and easy to be studdied ..i like it my self ..[/b]
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    Post by Mandy2 » Fri Mar 12, 2004 1:13 pm

    Linguistic researchers are claiming more frequently nowadays that the Anglo-American dominance is coming to an end, in terms of global languages. David Graddol, a British linguistic researcher had recently an article about the topic in the professional magazine 'Science'.

    Well, it's natural to have changes in the worldwide system of languages. English, once safely atop the league table in terms of the number of native speakers, has now been relegated to the second spot behind Chinese. Considering that there are more than 1.1 billion people who grow up with the Chinese language in all its variations as their mother tongue, three times more than the number of English native speakers, it is hardly surprising that Chinese 'might' become the dominant spoken language in these terms or at least will stay one of the dominant ones.

    However, English will still have its place. While researchers see the future as being multi-lingual, English will continue to be one of those languages that most people will learn and can use when in a foreign land of which the native tongue is not known.

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    Post by gulf girl » Sun Mar 14, 2004 1:04 pm

    Ammmm
    This Question is not objective. Because each will say that his/her language should be the #1 internationally !!
    If you don't know what you looking for, you'll never find it.

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    Post by Guest » Fri Apr 23, 2004 4:41 pm

    serviceboy wrote:I do hate English,for it does not strictly change its form as French does.
    I always misspell some words.French, in my opition is the best language in the world. Why so many people nowadys have to learn English? NOt for England is rich,but for America is rich.
    Before most lands in the world were British, French, Spanish, or Portuguese colonies. Thus, people from all over the world were speaking either English, French, Spanish, or Portuguese. But, after WWII, most countries were dead from that war and I mean "economics" were dead. Only America could survive. With that advantage, American business grew strong and stronger. To be doing business with America, most countries needed to speak English. Britain already had that benefit since they spoke English and they had a lot of lands. Say, if you need something from someone, you have to be able to tell that person what you need; that's the reason why English were spread all over the world. By the way, British currency is still the highest on the market. Nowadays, you can choose not to speak English. It's your choice, but it doesn't hurt you if you know another language. The more languages you know, the better it is for yourself.

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    Post by Guest » Fri Apr 23, 2004 5:00 pm

    pirate wrote: So do you remember the countries that had to fight for their independence including the freedom to speak our own language? Let's take an example with my country Vietnam. Depending on our well-known history with many struggles against big evaders, we have some generations with fluency in Chinese and French.
    The Vietnam war was basically a civil war--the North and the South were fighting each other, if you didn't know. Why do you think that many Southern Vietnamese left Vietnam and some of them got rapped by the Thailand pirates or couldn't make it at all to the new lands?

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    Post by Guest » Mon May 17, 2004 11:54 pm

    I don't think you could see my private message that I've sent you long time ago for some reason that we all know why....here it is again....

    "The Vietnam War was a second phase of fighting in Vietnam. In 1946 Vietnam was part of the colony of French Indochina and the Vietnamese fought for their independence. The United States provided military equipment, but the French were defeated in 1954. Vietnam was then divided into North and South Vietnam.
    Communists saw the Vietnam War as an extension of their struggle with France, as another attempt by a foreign power to rule Vietnam, and as a war of national liberation. China and the Soviet Union supported the Vietnamese Communists with war materials but not troops.
    The Vietnam War can be separated into different periods based upon the United States involvement. From 1957 to 1965, the war was mainly a struggle between the South Vietnamese army and Communist-trained South Vietnamese rebels known as the Viet Cong. The U.S. provided military advisors. The first U.S. troops entered Vietnam in March 1965. Until 1969, North Vietnam and the United States did most of the fighting. By 1969, the Vietnam War seemed endless, and the United States slowly began to withdraw troops. In January 1973, a cease-fire was arranged. The last U.S. ground troops left Vietnam two months later. Despite the treaty fighting between North and South Vietnam resumed soon afterward, but U.S. troops did not return. The war finally ended on April 30, 1975 when South Vietnam surrendered to North Vietnam. "

    "The Vietnam War was the longest war in which the United States took part. The war began in 1957 and ended in 1975. At that time, Vietnam was separated into Communist-ruled North Vietnam and noncommunist South Vietnam. North Vietnam wanted to end U.S. support of South Vietnam and to unite the north and south into a single nation. The United States and the South Vietnamese army tried to stop them."

    "1.8 million Vietnamese arrived safely and found resettlements, and about 80,000 to 200,000 perished at sea during their attempts. The Vietnamese asylum seekers flow continued to increase significantly in refugee centres in Hong Kong and Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia. The overwhelming arrivals of the Vietnamese were not only unwelcome but also refused asylum and forced back to sea. Back out at sea, they drifted on their crowded, fragile, and unequipped fishing boats and about 77% encountered Thailand pirate attacks on average of 3.2 times per boat in the 1980s. A few lucky ones who escaped the pirate murders, abductions and rapes were then either rescued by international rescue boats or landed into Indonesia or even deserted island, while other were repatriated back to Vietnam.

    Many Southerner soldiers died during their "re-education" because of harsh conditions. If the North wanted to joined the nation back, then why did those soldiers have to be forced in jails, which are in jungle. Re-educate for what IF there were really fighing with the North over the Americans? Don't you see this is not making any sense? They were forced to be "re-educated" only because THEY WERE FIGHTING OVER THE NORTH.

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    Post by Waqar Javed » Tue Jul 20, 2004 2:44 pm

    I think English is the best choice for an International language
    because so many people around the world are using English as a tool of communication and there is no another language which meets with the international standard. It is easy to learn because there are so many facilities available now a days for improving.

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    Post by Judy2004 » Tue Jul 20, 2004 4:04 pm

    I think English is the best choice of international communication.
    Nowdays,if you cannot understand English, you will lose all the opportunities associatied with English. It is undoubted that English is the essential capability for people all over the world.
    English is easy and straight-forward,just like the way of the English people thinking,which also aids in English becoming the common tool of international communication.
    However,it is also important to develop our native languages. Everyone regards his/her native language as the best language and can use it freely,furthermore,our native languages reflect the culture of the nation. We should respect each language and try to save it from dying out.
    I think English just acts as the media when we say English is the best choice of international communication.
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    Post by strange » Sat Jul 24, 2004 10:07 am

    hi all
    i thinhk this subjest was too old. Why i must study english meantimwe my friend play a game. there is only reason: english is international language. why? forget it!! why don't we talk about something such as: what level you got or, why my neighbouring always smile when i see her.....so on.

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    Post by Arale » Sat Sep 18, 2004 1:04 pm

    I like English and England so I think English is the best choice .It is a global language . I hope I could come England where I could speak English with native ones .

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    Post by birrel » Sun Sep 26, 2004 2:44 pm

    I hate the English. They are posh

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    Post by Arale » Tue Sep 28, 2004 4:39 pm

    Not all of them !However, the English Royal family has so many scandals.I like Dianna princess.

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    Post by Guest » Fri Oct 01, 2004 2:34 am

    Arale wrote:Not all of them !However, the English Royal family has so many scandals.I like Dianna princess.

    _Arale_
    Yup, not all of them. You can't base your opinions on one or two persons you've met, birrel. That's stereotype. By the way, I like English too. At least I don't have to remember the sex genders for things like inanimate objects. That's nonsense to me, no offense.

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    Post by maryemily » Sun Nov 14, 2004 2:40 pm

    but, is this a choice? or is this related to the American Imperialism.......financial an technological superiority....?

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    Post by Guest » Sun Nov 14, 2004 8:25 pm

    maryemily wrote:but, is this a choice? or is this related to the American Imperialism.......financial an technological superiority....?
    Long before American economy got strong English was already used in some part of the world due to English colonization. Nowaday English is used more than other languages (well, second most language is used after Chinese) for international communication because British had and maybe still has many colonies that speak English, American has a strong economy that most of people want to do businesses with. Therefore, people speak English to be able to do business with them. If you have noticed, Spanish, French, and Chinese are used widely also. It's not just English.
    Business is a hard-core competitive field, you have to do anything to satisfy your clients. If they want something in their language, you have to translate your products, ideas, memos, etc to their language. You can't just use English and tell them if they don't understand you, it's their problem. If you do that, you'll lose a business. My boyfriend works for a translation company. They try to translate everything in business to certain language that their clients demand. Thus, although America has a strong business, we still need people from other countries to do business with us and we have to do our best to satisfy them. We have people who can speak several languages or tools that the clients can understand the products in their own language. It makes them feel more comfortable.
    For personal used, for an example, I speak Vietnamese, you speak your language, we both don't understand each other but if we learn a certain language in common, why don't we use that to communicate? It can be anything, don't have to be particularly English. If I knew French and so did you, we both could speak French to each other instead of English, right?
    Overall, the choice is yours.

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    Post by maryemily » Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:14 pm

    but in fact, English is considered the mundial language. It is demanded, of coursefor bussiness reasons, but It has its historical appearence. people did not choose English as the most demanded language for financial relations because people thought it was beautiful or easy or something else. It had a stronger reason.......When France was the most powerful country, people needed to speak French more than any other language....now it is English..... It has its origin in the way EUA command the world between lines.....

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    maryemily wrote:but in fact, English is considered the mundial language. It is demanded, of coursefor bussiness reasons, but It has its historical appearence. people did not choose English as the most demanded language for financial relations because people thought it was beautiful or easy or something else. It had a stronger reason.......When France was the most powerful country, people needed to speak French more than any other language....now it is English..... It has its origin in the way EUA command the world between lines.....
    Not totally true. If you compare it to French then English doesn't sound as nice as French. Why would the French choose to something less nice over something is nice? In fact, most French people don't like to speak English based on a tight relationship that they have with England in history. They speak English just for business and other international relations. If a country has people speak French, they would speak French instead of English to those people. My cousins who speak French and English speak English to us since they don't know Vietnamese and we don't know French. English is the only language that we have in common. They speak French to grownups who can speak French in my family. And they also change back to French if they know the person they're speaking with can speak French.
    By the way, when was France the most powerful country? They've lost every single damn war. When were they powerful? Show me the timeline when they were because I can't find it in the history timeline.

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    Post by moonie » Tue Nov 16, 2004 11:04 am

    usuing english as their international language is not choosen by force,,but only has been usuing because for their practical need of use for convenient communication.or for their efficiency of competiveness,,,by preoccupied culture...which is aleady splead global-wide. thereby...in our generation has no choice to choose their international language... on top of that..actually apperantly it is impossible to choose it individually cause..language is not only for comunication but also for sharing and acquanting in it's own culture.. eventhough we wanna get language as a new one which seems to be fair but it shouldn't be happened or reversed by one night.

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    Re: International Communication. Why English?

    Post by Maeve » Wed Nov 17, 2004 3:15 am

    [quote="TP"]
    I think English is important to everyone, but Chinese is important equally. In the future, Chinese will be instead of English as the best International Communication. It will be better and better that our economic index and business are developed. It will be exceed the west countries. So more and more people will learn Chinese and come to China to do business. :wink:

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    Post by Guest » Wed Nov 17, 2004 4:14 am

    Maeve wrote:
    TP wrote: I think English is important to everyone, but Chinese is important equally. In the future, Chinese will be instead of English as the best International Communication. It will be better and better that our economic index and business are developed. It will be exceed the west countries. So more and more people will learn Chinese and come to China to do business. :wink:
    :roll: it's already number one most speaking language based on their population. There's a stereotype that for every four people in a group, there will be one Chinese person.

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    Post by ndt7981 » Wed Nov 17, 2004 6:34 am

    Maeve, I think that Chinese might be more popular in future. But in my opinion, English is much more easier to learn than Chinese.

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    Post by armmy » Wed Nov 17, 2004 6:49 am

    language is only a tool enven if it is so important for us. it is govern by the nature not the force.i suggest all of us donot mind which language is be used in the internation. it is most important that we can communicate each other.
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    Post by Maeve » Thu Nov 18, 2004 4:11 am

    armmy wrote:language is only a tool enven if it is so important for us. it is govern by the nature not the force.i suggest all of us donot mind which language is be used in the internation. it is most important that we can communicate each other.
    Language is often used in communicate in the world. If we talk about something, we must speak the same language, right? So, I think we must have the same language whether you have any purpose to learn English or Chinese or other language. :)

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    Re: English is one of the Choices.

    Post by mehrin » Thu Nov 18, 2004 3:02 pm

    kathy wrote:I think English is widely spoken nowadays that's for sure but it doesn't have to be the only tool for people to communicate. If you have a penpal from another country which might inspire you to talk to your friend in his or her language. That is more funny.
    I'm a native Chinese and Chinese is the language becoming more and more important. Chinese has the largest spokers in fact!
    If you like I can help you with that!
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    Kathy
    I think english is a only tool for people to communication. I think english is a international language, and english is your passport, you can see the modren technology the internet, they have english access, and thats why we are here for learning english.
    I am from Pakistan in my country in every scools they laern our native language but english too. And english is one of the our compulsary subject. In my opinion if you dont know english in this computarised world that means you are nothing.When i cant speak or understand english i feel shy.
    But remember dont forget your native language its you ID.

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    Post by maryemily » Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:52 pm

    so answer me: Why is English the universal language?????

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    Post by maryemily » Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:54 pm

    simplyblessedwithlove wrote:
    maryemily wrote:but in fact, English is considered the mundial language. It is demanded, of coursefor bussiness reasons, but It has its historical appearence. people did not choose English as the most demanded language for financial relations because people thought it was beautiful or easy or something else. It had a stronger reason.......When France was the most powerful country, people needed to speak French more than any other language....now it is English..... It has its origin in the way EUA command the world between lines.....
    Not totally true. If you compare it to French then English doesn't sound as nice as French. Why would the French choose to something less nice over something is nice? In fact, most French people don't like to speak English based on a tight relationship that they have with England in history. They speak English just for business and other international relations. If a country has people speak French, they would speak French instead of English to those people. My cousins who speak French and English speak English to us since they don't know Vietnamese and we don't know French. English is the only language that we have in common. They speak French to grownups who can speak French in my family. And they also change back to French if they know the person they're speaking with can speak French.
    By the way, when was France the most powerful country? They've lost every single damn war. When were they powerful? Show me the timeline when they were because I can't find it in the history timeline.

    so answer me: Why is English the universal language???? demanded even to pass in school year in countries like Brazil?

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    Post by maryemily » Fri Nov 19, 2004 1:34 pm

    maryemily wrote:When France was the most powerful country, people needed to speak French more than any other language....
    sorry, it was a stupidity. but, for example, I will try to explain what happens here in Brazil. Here, students learn English in school, must have know this language to find jobs, etc, here, there are English even in banks, shoppings, but not for tourists, for us. Students usually ask why do they have to know English, of course, teachers tend to answer that the reasons come from international bussiness. But it makes us realize that as EUA is a great economic power, the use of English as the bussiness language is a consequence from it, of course, a consequence from the great technological advance also. But, we, Brazilians are passive related to this language, a person said that language is related to identity, yeah, here Brazilians speak Portuguese with English, people name things with English words.....But, English as the mundial language is not a choice, it is a consequence from the economic development that ocurred in Eua x a low one in many other countries. For example, here, we also make bussiness with our neighbour countries that have Spanish as language. But Spanish is not tha mundial language because the world makes more bussiness with Eua thanwith Spanish language countries. So, it is a consequence. So, not a choice at all......... What do you think?

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    Post by maryemily » Fri Nov 19, 2004 5:19 pm

    there are the possibility that in some years Spanish come to be the mundial language, because the international relation that exists aong countries that use that language......It proves that the fact tha alanuage is demanded as the mundial one is a consequence from comercial interests, not a choice at all....not a metalinguistic choice.

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    Post by Guest » Fri Nov 19, 2004 9:35 pm

    maryemily wrote:so answer me: Why is English the universal language?????
    I think you're in denial because the question is already answered. For some reason, you don't seem to accept the fact it's already answered.

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    Post by Guest » Fri Nov 19, 2004 9:45 pm

    maryemily wrote:
    maryemily wrote:When France was the most powerful country, people needed to speak French more than any other language....
    sorry, it was a stupidity. but, for example, I will try to explain what happens here in Brazil. Here, students learn English in school, must have know this language to find jobs, etc, here, there are English even in banks, shoppings, but not for tourists, for us. Students usually ask why do they have to know English, of course, teachers tend to answer that the reasons come from international bussiness. But it makes us realize that as EUA is a great economic power, the use of English as the bussiness language is a consequence from it, of course, a consequence from the great technological advance also. But, we, Brazilians are passive related to this language, a person said that language is related to identity, yeah, here Brazilians speak Portuguese with English, people name things with English words.....But, English as the mundial language is not a choice, it is a consequence from the economic development that ocurred in Eua x a low one in many other countries. For example, here, we also make bussiness with our neighbour countries that have Spanish as language. But Spanish is not tha mundial language because the world makes more bussiness with Eua thanwith Spanish language countries. So, it is a consequence. So, not a choice at all......... What do you think?
    You don't have a choice anymore based on economy-wide because thing is already set. Your country is way behind in economy. That's why you've losen your choice to choose. You speak Portuguese because you were colonized by Portugal. Now your country starts to associate with English because you need that for business. How do you know people in business field who know how to speak Spanish don't speak it with Spanish people? You can't be sure about that, right?
    Before that, English, French and Spanish were used widely but now more people know how to speak English so base on international wide, bigger field, things are set and you hardly choose if you're behind others. But if in a smaller field, like I said, personal things, you can choose.

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    Post by maryemily » Sat Nov 20, 2004 12:34 am

    [/quote]You don't have a choice anymore based on economy-wide because thing is already set. Your country is way behind in economy. That's why you've losen your choice to choose. You speak Portuguese because you were colonized by Portugal. Now your country starts to associate with English because you need that for business. How do you know people in business field who know how to speak Spanish don't speak it with Spanish people? You can't be sure about that, right?
    Before that, English, French and Spanish were used widely but now more people know how to speak English so base on international wide, bigger field, things are set and you hardly choose if you're behind others. But if in a smaller field, like I said, personal things, you can choose.[/quote]


    yeah....that is right....now, I understand what you mean.... :D

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    Post by mercy » Fri Jan 28, 2005 2:13 pm

    I guess the best solution is to learn all the languges in the world .. it's amazing . isn't it ?
    yes i like to know how diffrent countires talk and comunicate with each other
    and i like too much to know more cultures .. and the language reflect the country's cultutre


    what do you think?
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    Post by birrel » Sat Jan 29, 2005 3:40 pm

    There is a nice analogy with the international use of the English language. Nobody would claim that English is particularly well suited to be the world's lingua franca by virtue of its intrinsic beauty, simplicity, or utility. Yet it is certainly the language in which citizens of different countries most often converse and do business, and increasingly so. One chooses to use a lingua franca, as one chooses a currency, in the belief that it is the one others are most likely to use, and moreover one can earn more money

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    Post by GiddyGad » Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:32 pm

    History gives the best explanation possible for EL popularity: an aggressor never feels like learning the language of a defeated country. Aggression can be financial, economic, military, cultural... Language popularity only indicates who is the aggressor. The same was with Latin, French, German, Russian and other languages. A local population, a people being under aggression, is either friend or foe: either a puppet in the hands of the aggressor or, as it is interpreted nowadays, a 'terrorist', 'separatist, 'anti-globalist' etc. Both friend and foe need the language of the aggressor for their (so different) purposes. Language popularity is practical. Are you ready to sell yourself (soul and body) and betray your own people and culture? Or are you going to use your knowledge for the benefit of your culture, your people? Its a moment of truth.

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    Post by Hardi » Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:24 am

    German is not so difficult.. well maybe writing is difficult. In chinese is surely writing the hardest part but... in reality I don't know anything about Chinese.

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    Post by Garine Keller » Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:32 am

    I think the English is a very important linguage, but it's not there more. In the globalization world, don't have a necessary universal linguage. Always haven a many forms to comunicate.
    It's important that any people good learn first your linguage for after learn others linguages. That it's the point.

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    Post by Andrefm » Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:33 am

    :) I like English as an international language, i'm used to see movies and listening to songs in English. I like to discover what they're saying (I get angry if can't but that's ok ). Learning English's important to me cause I use it in my job and I want to travel abroad someday. The most important is being proud of your native language, because it means your identity.
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    Post by gislaine » Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:34 am

    I think that english is the best language to learn on a international level because is a easy one to learn,lets face it it is everywhere. For example:the USA has spread its culture around the world with music,movies and of course with politics.Its no surprise that youth today is breading the american way of life.
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    Post by Rodrigo Klassen » Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:35 am

    i think it depends on the situation. an example: for business english is already the international language used around the world. and it works out very well.
    Although, we have to consider that english is the language spoken in the most rich countries in the world and this is a great reason to have it as an international language.
    But economic changes can happen, maybe in the future it'll be necessary to learn languages sponken at asia or south america.
    so, in my opinion, actually english is the easier way to comunicate with all the world but i'm sure it can changes across the times.
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    Post by Guilherme » Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:39 am

    Because English is the language of the "powerful's world" then all want to absorb your culture, and the language is the first step. Also the USA is a "power technological" being necessary to know English for used.


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    Post by wilfford » Tue Mar 08, 2005 12:59 am

    hi people,
    i'm marcio ,from brazil, and in first place i really enjoy the english language.if portuguese was the language most spoken in the world,i'd think that it would be the best language to the world,if i would be a chinese citizen, i could think that the chinese language is the best language and so :evil:
    there must be a standart of language,and if english is most spoken, why not be the standart language?
    i´m from brasil and i'm really excited to know anybody.

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    Post by thinhare » Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:18 pm

    Hey, people,

    It's not something about "the best". It's just about "the defacto".

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    Post by Anin » Fri Mar 18, 2005 1:50 pm

    Hi everybody :) ,
    Have ypu heard that in the USA they were choosing between English and German to became their official language?
    Finally, English had won and I think it was the best result. My mum is a teacher of German, and when I saw the German Grammar and heard the hard pronunciacion I totally gave up the idea of learning German.
    I love English :!: I have been learning that beautiful language more than 13 years (since 5) and I have never regretted the choice of it.
    And, what about Spanish? It is supposed to have more learners than English by the year 2010. Do you think Spanish could threaten the leadership of English among the world languages?
    Last I want to add is that English surely become the world´s number one because of its flexibility. There are millions of ways to express everything you want. Moreover it uses shortened forms which are much easier for remembering. This is the disadvantage of German, that the vocabular contains lots of words that are extremely long.
    Hi I am 18 and I would like to change my opinions with you.

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    Post by Honey » Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:22 pm

    English is one of the easiest languages (for not saying it's the easiest... yes, believe it: the easiest!) language to learn. Its system is easy to elarn, and one of the only difficulties would be its pronunciation. Nonetheless, one aspect that makes it a bad thing - although it's not in English itself - is the fact that a culture is being transmitted with it, as well. So we must be very careful for that.

    What if Chinese were the chosen language? (and it's not so far from today, as I can see :lol:)

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    Post by authorityquery » Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:03 pm

    I think english has been used like an international language for along time . And it's Ok I like it very much even my conditions 's poor. But noproblem, importance you want to study English.
    English 's stiill accepted in the world and maybe in the future, who knows, international languages next 50 years.
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    I dont think we have any other choice... Simple answer

    Post by sky888walker » Thu Apr 14, 2005 11:35 am

    Guys, i dont think we have any other choice. If i had any chance to choose any language to be an international language, i would choose my own language.

    Whether you like it or not, no matter how good your reasons are, you have to live with it. English (bless all english speaking people) has been luckily chosen as one of international languages.

    Simple answers, simple words, from a simple man.. lol

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    Post by GiddyGad » Thu Apr 14, 2005 1:11 pm

    authorityquery wrote:I think english has been used like an international language for along time . And it's Ok I like it very much even my conditions 's poor. But noproblem, importance you want to study English.
    English 's stiill accepted in the world and maybe in the future, who knows, international languages next 50 years.
    Thanks.
    English became international only after 1945, after the WW2, when American soldiers appeared in Europe and Far East. There's no wonder: it's simpler to teach a foreign language to local folk than to soldiers.

    The popularity of the English language will fade away like any other international language of the Past: Greek, Latin, Arab, French, Spanish, German, Russian... The list is endless. To cut it short, it's catching but it'll pass.

    So far it is popular and more advantageous for non-native speakers than for native speakers: it gives non-natives an opportunity to see the world with the eyes of another culture; and it deprives natives of the necessity to understand other cultures....

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    Post by keling » Sun Oct 16, 2005 12:13 pm

    language is a tool of communication

    the more the population , the more popular is their language

    english is an ancient language in the world for the long history

    of the country .furthermore , the britian has colonized many

    countries in middle 19century it's language is inevitable

    transport to those countries which been colonized by it

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    Post by sunnyni » Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:27 am

    There are too many reasons forEnglish to be a global language.

    From the history, UK is the first colonial contry , they brought English into others countries around it during the aggression. It was a chance for English to spead abroad.
    From the technology, so many high techinal issues ,reports are written in english. If we want to study it , we must master English. For UK and USA are two leader in the scienece and tchnology. And i wondered why they are the leader in the science and tchnology , i believed hisorical aggression is the vital factor.
    From the economy, UK and USA accelerate the economy went up. Now the UK and USA will increase their points for the economy increase. So they started to invest in other countries,where they can find more low-cost laboure and material. This is the second chance to spread English , lead english to be a global language. why UK and USA can accelerate the economy development, I believe it is hisorical aggression is vital factor too.

    So , in one word , It is historical reason made English into common use.

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    Post by Pixie » Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:37 pm

    English ain't that 'easy' although people keep saying that, they're wrong. When I first started off with learning english, i told myself " damn, t'is rather easy ". When you got basics, it becomes more complicated, because english vocabulary is imo endless.

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    Post by Rui » Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:59 pm

    i agree with all the things that have been said until now, but please don't change the internacional language now, i'm making a big effort to handle with english 8)

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    Post by GiddyGad » Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:09 pm

    hehehe,

    Don't worry :lol:

    Noone's gonna displace English being international, as long as it is INTERNATIONAL English. International English is quite different from any national English. That's why oftentimes native speakers are of no help here.

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    Post by trinity19 » Fri Oct 28, 2005 6:26 pm

    i think the "choice" of the international language in every moment of history depends on the economical power of that moment, not on which one is the easiest one so, as history changes, the international languahe will change.and i hope i don't have to live it cuz i'm not capable of learning another language! lol

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    Re: International Communication. Why English?

    Post by netyugi » Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:45 am

    Maeve wrote:
    TP wrote: I think English is important to everyone, but Chinese is important equally. In the future, Chinese will be instead of English as the best International Communication. It will be better and better that our economic index and business are developed. It will be exceed the west countries. So more and more people will learn Chinese and come to China to do business. :wink:
    I agree with you!

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    Post by jackiee » Sat Nov 19, 2005 1:35 pm

    hi,everyone,
    I think that English is the best choice for an international
    language, because there are many nations use it,so it is a very
    convenient tool. we have to accept it.however you like it or not,but we have to realize . basically ,it is only an international
    communication tool. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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    Re: We want French

    Post by willzheng » Wed Dec 14, 2005 5:38 am

    French Guy wrote::( , I would prefer that the french language became the most popular language around the world, because I'm a french guy and it's easier for me to speak french.
    But I understand that english speaking is today the most wide-spread for several reasons.
    During the last four centuries the UK was the first colonial country, therefore the english language is now known by practically all the big nations. It's why it's a wise solution to approve the english language as the most popular.

    (his teacher says)
    However it should be remembered that at the time that the british empire was expanding so too was the french. It was perhaps only by the luck of history(France not wanting to push for colonies in india, france pulling out of america, they made perhaps not the best choice by concentrating on Africa, and of course Napoleon losing at Waterloo) that we go to McDanalds and order a Big Mac. It could so nearly have been La Grande Mac.
    Donc Voila Quoi
    yes,that is Right.it is a fact that most people when they go out to other countries they speak English,and they don't know your native laguage,so ohters want to talk with them,so they speak English.
    And we can't choose,so we have to lear english inorde to talke with others

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    Post by CityYoung » Thu Dec 22, 2005 7:39 pm

    I think english is the best beacuse most of the country teach english or use english 8)

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    Re: We want French

    Post by DocAndy » Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:11 am

    Of course.
    Every person would prefer his own language.
    My prefer is German. :roll:

    But it isn't. So I have to learn english.
    My problem is to talk in English with people. Because I live in Austria and talk all day long German.
    However!
    :shock:
    We can communicate and the best way now is English.

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    French Guy wrote::( , I would prefer that the french language became the most popular language around the world, because I'm a french guy and it's easier for me to speak french.
    But I understand that english speaking is today the most wide-spread for several reasons.
    During the last four centuries the UK was the first colonial country, therefore the english language is now known by practically all the big nations. It's why it's a wise solution to approve the english language as the most popular.

    (his teacher says)
    However it should be remembered that at the time that the british empire was expanding so too was the french. It was perhaps only by the luck of history(France not wanting to push for colonies in india, france pulling out of america, they made perhaps not the best choice by concentrating on Africa, and of course Napoleon losing at Waterloo) that we go to McDanalds and order a Big Mac. It could so nearly have been La Grande Mac.
    Donc Voila Quoi

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    Re: International Communication. Why English?

    Post by harvester » Sat Jan 21, 2006 5:14 pm

    TP wrote:Do you think that English is the best choice for an international language? Why? Why not?
    I am not sure, but nowadays in many countries children start learning English early, when they go to school and then they finish their training later on. For example in my country (Vietnam), English is one of the main subject at school; however, some school have French beside English.
    I think English is very common and very useful. If you think about it, there are so many words,for example to do with computer, particular the people working in big companies, they have to travel a lot and do business with other contries..., E can help you to communicate together easily. Eglish is the most widely used around the world. It has been used in all the fields of public activily. If you master it, you can go to any continent in the world, I think, I mean it easier to understand the other countries.
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    Hi!!

    Post by Freyda » Sun Mar 12, 2006 4:35 am

    Hey..guys...

    Well... here i think that English be as International Language because of it is used widely and most people able to communicate and read using English. Thus, that's maybe the one of the reasons why it happen.

    But, other language also got power right? It just the matter that seems everyone agree with the English use.

    To me, English also is easier to learn than the other language such as Spanish and Frances.

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    Post by Cucumber » Sun Mar 12, 2006 6:14 pm

    The simplest language in the world is russian! I know this because I I'd learnt it when I was only 1,5. Now I'm not so yong but other languages is so difficult to me!

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    Post by kathymimi » Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:32 am

    maybe English is not the best choice for international communication, but it does happen.
    English is using worldwide now because it is the language of business and, there are so many English clubs or forums like this that help the spread of the language.

    if there are more and more people around the world use another language, such as Chinese, French, Germany or, some else, in their daily lives, that will take place of English.

    whether using English when communicating with others is not the point, the custom of using it is.

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    Post by Laxuan » Sun Mar 26, 2006 10:42 am

    Nowadays people using english as a native language is still increasing but quite slowly to compare with some other language such as chinese, japanese, french. so in the future, I think english wont be the most popular language

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    Post by chenggiant » Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:07 am

    This is what i want to know. Now, i have got the answer from the disscussion.

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    Post by kalery » Thu Apr 13, 2006 4:54 am

    My native language is Chinese.But I have to learn English in order to find a good job and communication with foreigners .Lots of companies require the graduates pass a English Exam named CET when he graduate from university.If you master this language and can speak it fluent,you can have more opportunities.So in my Country,many parents send their children to have a English Class when they are only 3-year-old even more younger....

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    Post by ailamvn » Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:29 am

    i think the choice of being an international language depends on the power of the country who owns it. Let's imagine that i have my own language which is very hard to speak and understand both in the way to use and communicate, but i have a great power that made my language become yours, and how's on? you do surely have to learn and use it although you find it not easy at all. Thus ditto the English language! it is chosen to be our language 'coz it is powerful and got familiar to all for a very long time in the past that you will find it outstrategous and ridiculous when using something else as the common bridge to everyone...
    By the way, English is really great to speak!
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